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From Custom ROM to Official 2.13?

Ok, I did use the search feature and I did find information but I just want to verify that it is correct. From what I seen to update from a Custom ROM with HSPL to the Official 2.13 Update you have to do the following:
1. Flash the 2.13 Update
2. Run HSPL again but this time select (in my case) 2.08.00 instead of 2.08.00 HSPL which should flash the stock SPL onto the phone.
Is this correct? Just want to verify as I dont want to brick my HD2.
Thanks,
Mike

correct
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Thanks for verifying that.

if thatsvthe update from tmobile i advise against it. it messed with my sensitivity and took me a few days of work to go back to the 2.10 ROM version

Let me ask you this though, did you do a hard reset before flashing the update, as well as after flashing the update? If you did this it shouldn't have any bad effects on it. Ive heard no others say they have had this issue. Ill let you know if I have this kind of issue though. What exactly was it doing?

ssconceptz said:
Let me ask you this though, did you do a hard reset before flashing the update, as well as after flashing the update? If you did this it shouldn't have any bad effects on it. Ive heard no others say they have had this issue. Ill let you know if I have this kind of issue though. What exactly was it doing?
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That is most definitely a wise practice when flashing ROM's...however, there are indeed quite a few users reporting sensitivity issues after flashing to the new 2.13...there's changes in the new ROM intended to improve sensitivity, but the effects aren't always desirable it seems.
Some serious efforts are underway here to get around that, you can keep up with them at the following thread (which is also a sticky at the top of this forum section):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683192

Or......
1. Use an extrator program on the .exe file and then you will find that the 2.13 update has 11 files. (rename the .exe to .rar)
2. Run a Task29
3. After the 11 files are extracted you can just use the romupdate utility, and presto stock 2.13 without messing with HSPL
These steps will not overwrite the HSPL to 2.10 and if you decide to go to another custom ROM then you are good to go.
It also works the same with the 2.10 stock ROM

I had a custom went to the new tmous official and went back to a custom without having to redo Hspl.

well I just heard that the HSPL gives problems with 2.13 and you need to use the factory SPL

uhmm.... i'm using smaberg's touch extreme rom.... which is better? the tmo 2.13 update or the custom rom?

May I ask why would you consider returning to 2.13 after running a perfectly fine Custom ROM? Well, besides selling or trying to return the phone to T-Mobile... 2.13 gave me nothing but problems and freezing left and right. The music app in 2.13 took 1 minute and 25 seconds to load the songs !!!!

2.13 is the latest right? even the new custom roms are 2.13 based right? or that's old?

matyoka said:
May I ask why would you consider returning to 2.13 after running a perfectly fine Custom ROM? Well, besides selling or trying to return the phone to T-Mobile... 2.13 gave me nothing but problems and freezing left and right. The music app in 2.13 took 1 minute and 25 seconds to load the songs !!!!
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Something is definitely wrong with your HD2. I have the latest rom and it's just as stable as the previous versions. Using Garmin Mobile XT GPS and SportyPal along with G-Alarm very frequently with no hiccups.
You sir suck at HD2.

Appreciate your response, even though it had nothing to do with you. On a second note, I'd rather suck at HD2 than suck something else... something you are very familiar with.

Ok guys - Need help with flashing a rom

I have had no such luck in another thread the tmobile us hd2 section and ppl are I feel being kinda snotty to me. I would like if someone could answer a few questions for me and help me out.
I want to Flash to Energy.Leo.21905.Sense2.5.GTX.Themed and I got the HSPL for it. My question is where can I find the stock rom and spl for the phone incase I need to warranty exchange or return it. I have the Tmobile US 1024 Leo

sherlockpwnz said:
I have had no such luck in another thread the tmobile us hd2 section and ppl are I feel being kinda snotty to me. I would like if someone could answer a few questions for me and help me out.
I want to Flash to Energy.Leo.21905.Sense2.5.GTX.Themed and I got the HSPL for it. My question is where can I find the stock rom and spl for the phone incase I need to warranty exchange or return it. I have the Tmobile US 1024 Leo
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Hmmm well try searching the forum. If that doesn't help, i'm sure I saw a stock T-mobile rom somewhere...HSPL will allow you to install the T-Mobile rom back onto the device. Go to T-mobile's website, i'm sure they've released an update for the HD2, you can flash that back onto the HD2. And remember to remove HSPL when you send your device back if something happpens. Hope I helped

Thanks yeah. I guess the better question is the update they released on the tmobile website is that suffecient since thats just an update?

go to t mobile section, click rom development thread, one of the top 4 or 5 threads (its a sticky) is called [rom] leo 1.5 test and stock roms or something like that, in there is a list of roms from 2.0 right up to 2.13 (stay away from those below 2.10, just for safety, some of them have dodgy spl's)
the two you should take note of are 2.10.0 and 2.13. Theyre the two stock roms that the tmous shipped with. (the 2.10.1 in that folder isnt an official stock rom, your phone will see it as a cooked rom)

Ahhh Awesome. Thanks. So if I need to send it back I uninstall the hspl and when I install the stock rom the spl is automatically put back?

sherlockpwnz said:
Ahhh Awesome. Thanks. So if I need to send it back I uninstall the hspl and when I install the stock rom the spl is automatically put back?
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depends which is your stock
if its 2.10
install the 2.10.0 stock from usb, then run hspl1024 and choose 2.08.0000
if its 2.13
run hspl1024 and choose 2.08.0000 and THEN flash the 2.13 stock from usb.
for 2.10 you can do it either way round, remove hspl first and then flash the stock, or flash teh stock then remove hspl. (because it's stock, it doesnt need hspl) for 2.13 however you must remove hspl first, because you need to flash back to spl 2.10.0000 and hspl1024 doesn't support that, so when you flash 2.13 if hspl is NOT installed then your spl will be upgraded to 2.10.0000, but if you leave hspl installed it wont remove it, and you will need to downgrade again so you can remove it, then upgrade again, lol.

my ROM is 2.13 and spl i suppose is 2.10

So who was being snotty to you. I answered all these questions in your last thread about the same thing. I ever went so far to link you to everything.

i felt a few of your replies were kinda anotty in assuming i didn't read any of the threads or didn't do searches. just to clear it up i spent weeks looking around reading before i decided to sign up and ask not because i was lazy to read but because i didn't understand it too much. also a few other people i felt were a little rude in assuming that i would be doing all of this with no computer.

Sorry if people come off that way but the information is there and it tends to get asked a lot and answered just as much so people tends to get tired of answering the same thing over and over.
I'll apologize for everybody. Sorry if we came off rude. Like I said it's all there I linked to what you needed in the other thread. I understand it can be frustrating to try and find information that doesn't contradict itself from thread to thread. The last thing you want to do is brick an expensive phone.
So you'll want to download HSPL2-sync the phone on the computer-run HSPL-follow instruction
Once that is done go into T-Mobile rom section - download one of the NRG roms( can't go wrong with his for your first flash)- unzip and put the file LEOIMG.nbh into the main directory of the memory card - turn off the phone and put into bootloader - hit the power button to load the rom - done........
Hope that helps and simplifies things for ya.

its alright man i understand there are idiots that don't read. i know my problem is with my browser the search doesn't show up so if it doesn't come up in google i don't find it. i did read though i gotta downgrade my stockrom in order to get to spl 2.08

yep HSPL 2.08 then Hard HSPL 2.08

cool cool. I sent a pm to nrgz and asked him personally to make sure the rom I chose will work but no reply I think he might have a crap ton of messages and wont read it. Waiting to see if someone will let me know. it's the gtx themed energy leo rom for 1024

Which one are you looking at I can tell you or tell you which one is the right one with the same options.
Did you have a chance to run HSPL yet?

he is talking about the gtx version of this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784

Yep it will work with no issue. Though using that one will not have any of the preloaded T-Mobile programs. As long as you know that.

Does Android require root?

The phone isn't mine. It is a lady friend of mine and I'm just curious if it would run on the default OS because her phone isn't rooted and I don't want to root her phone for insurance purposes.
If it can run on it is it the same process as doing it on a Touch Pro? I used to have a Touch Pro and it was as simple as putting the downloaded files on the memory card and launching Haret.exe so I do have some experience with Android on Windows builds.

Some people reported that it does run on the defaul OS. But you still have to flash HSPL and I think you'll maybe need an other radio like 2.12 or 2.14.

JanssoN said:
Some people reported that it does run on the defaul OS. But you still have to flash HSPL and I think you'll maybe need an other radio like 2.12 or 2.14.
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Thanks... I guess I'll have to void it and if anything tell her I can flash it back to normal if anything happens to it.

Yes, I think you'll have to but flashing back and gettin it to factory settings is easy.. so you don't have to hesitate if you know what you are doin.
Edit: Chance to brick it actually is very small, just be shure you don't use a radio with .51 then is everything ok

JanssoN said:
Yes, I think you'll have to but flashing back and gettin it to factory settings is easy.. so you don't have to hesitate if you know what you are doin.
Edit: Chance to brick it actually is very small, just be shure you don't use a radio with .51 then is everything ok
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What the hack are you talking about first you don't need hspl to run android from sd. Just the radio has to be higher than 2.08. You get this if you update your phone tothe latest version. For United states people you can do it on t-mobile site as far as I know. For evry other user the htc site should work.

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What the hack are you talking about first you don't need hspl to run android from sd. Just the radio has to be higher than 2.08. You get this if you update your phone tothe latest version. For United states people you can do it on t-mobile site as far as I know. For evry other user the htc site should work.
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I'm pretty sure you need HSPL for flashing another radio, but that it is possible to do it on the HTC odr T-Mobile site I didn't knew. So sorry for my ignorance

JanssoN said:
I'm pretty sure you need HSPL for flashing another radio, but that it is possible to do it on the HTC odr T-Mobile site I didn't knew. So sorry for my ignorance
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Sorry I maybe was a little bit rude to you
Maybe it was because it looks like bad news for our great devices wich it isn't
HTC just released an update for all other versions except the t-mobile version. Wich the latest radio 2.15. As far as I know t-mobile roms had always higher than 2.08. And with latest updates it is 2.12 I tought.
But you are right for flashing another radio.

jan-willem3 said:
Sorry I maybe was a little bit rude to you
Maybe it was because it looks like bad news for our great devices wich it isn't
HTC just released an update for all other versions except the t-mobile version. Wich the latest radio 2.15. As far as I know t-mobile roms had always higher than 2.08. And with latest updates it is 2.12 I tought.
But you are right for flashing another radio.
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No it's okay. It's not like I would have to cry now
Well, you have to know my last visit on the HTC site is long time ago since I'm using Android on daily base and a custom WinMo ROM When I started my phone had a 2.05 radio and I didn't knew they have released such a big update. I'm not very interersted in WinMo anymore. But thanks for the update anyway.
Cheers

Thanks guys well I'll be updating her phone as I'm sure she hasn't done so at all. If I need anything else I'll post back here. I don't plan on doing it until Monday regardless so I haven't had much time with her phone.

You don't need HSPL to run Android. I don't have HSPL and I use Android every day.
Before you bother to update, turn the phone on and look next to the letter 'R' down near the bottom in red that appears before Windows loads up.
Those numbers next to the 'R' are the radio version.
If the third number is 50 (X.XX.50.XX) instead of 51 or 52 or anything else, then you don't need to update your radio or ROM or anything.
You just need a X.XX.50.XX radio.
If it's not, then yes, you'll need to update.
But after that, it's really easy.
Just download your preferred build, unzip it, and place the Android folder on the root of your sd card (inside of no folders, just on the sd card, dont put your Android folder int a folder).
I would also suggest installing in Windows Mobile the Exceller Android/Ubuntu loader. Then its easier for your lady friend to launch Android from Windows, and you can set the loader to automatically launch Android when she turns her phone on.
As far as 'root', all that means is having permission from the operating system to access and write to the root filesystem in Android. By default, users are denied access to this, and so cannot change much in Android and thats what the big deal about having root is. But guess what? These builds that run from the sd card already have root access, so you are already a step ahead of a person who goes and buys an Android native phone. They have to go through some hackery to get what we already have ;-D

Running Android on HD2 (originally WinMo 6.5 Phone) - both TMOUS and International ones - doesnt require you to have HSPL the phone (if u want to know this... for HTC warranty sake)
Android will run from your SD card. Android flavour will be rooted or mat not be rooted depends on the developer.
First unzip the Android flavour in your SD card and run android.. if there is Robo voice then its all along a different story

Update:
Well I tried using one android build with a stock HD2 with the proper radio xx.xx.50.xx etc. After the linux screen starts loading only 4 lines of text quickly flash then I'm shown an HTC logo which it gets stuck at. Any rom recommendations for stock HD2's not rooted?
Any info would be great. Thank you all for your help.

michaelm718 said:
Update:
Well I tried using one android build with a stock HD2 with the proper radio xx.xx.50.xx etc. After the linux screen starts loading only 4 lines of text quickly flash then I'm shown an HTC logo which it gets stuck at. Any rom recommendations for stock HD2's not rooted?
Any info would be great. Thank you all for your help.
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It can take a while the first time you boot sometimes... it may stay on the htc logo screen up to 15 minutes first boot depending on build, data size, and sd card speed.
Otherwise just try another build.

[Q] Stock rom serial and region confusion. A bit of assistance please!

Greetings, oh great minds of the XDA forums!
Firstly, allow me to explain my current predicament. I have had my HD2 for over a year now, and was extremely happy with it. Had HSPL 2.08 installed, ran NAND MIUI Android, nothing ever REALLY wen't wrong. Basically a blissful phone owner existance. Then recently the vibration died. Now obviously, since the phone was still in warranty, i'd be an idiot to bring the phone to the repair shop in it's condition, seeing how i had most probably voided the warranty long ago. So i decided to flash an official ROM. Went to the htc europe site, downloaded the rom, tried the SD card method... and that was it. Had SPL 3.0.3, but apparently the wrong region of the OS itself. I tried and tried to get it to accept anything to which i found a link on these forums, but to no avail. Thankfully my warranty was not considered void, and the repairs were done free of charge including a reflash of the OS. But i'm stuck with Windows Mobile now. However, i have seen posts saying i can downgrade my SPL with an official shipped rom. However, i obviously have an extremely bad experience with this sort of thing and am right down terrified to give it a go.
Bottom line, i haven't found a shipped rom for my serial number anywhere.
So if anyone would be kind enough to find me and old shipped rom for
S/N: HT05VNW00235
i would be eternally grateful.
Many thanks in advance

Forget downgrading to change spl, that will hhave been written before Hspl4.
Assuming you have a regular not a tmous,,
Use Hspl4 to apply 3.03.hspl
Flash the unbranded wwe 3.14 rom
Use Hspl4 to apply 3.03.0000
Its now warranty safe.

I seem to have been slightly confusing in my long first post and i see you have probably misunderstood me.
I am not looking to get my phone warranty safe. I would very much like to be able to go back to NAND Android. Which from what i've gathered isn't possible with SPL 3.0.3.Anything...
So the question i'm asking is:
Can i downgrade to a rom with an earlyer version of SPL, and if so, which one?
Hope that clears out a few things
cheers

Ah gotcha, well run Hspl4 and choose 2.08.hspl
Done.

wow... no idea it was that simple... the internet had me believing i was powerless against the power of spl 3.03.0000...
You sir are my hero, and my children will sing hymns of the magnitude of helpfulness you have exhibited and blessed me with today
(seriously though, thanks a million for helping out with this!)
The problem has been solved, rejoice!

Hehe, no bother, it's all a bit confusing if you try sticking to tutorials, cos many of the more popular (and hence high on Google) were written at varying stages of hspl
development.
As to the bit of your op I didn't read, the warranty was upheld because its only the spl that counts.(assuming it isn't actually running Droid/wp7 of course)

Need an old ROM to get back onto WP7 ROM!

Hi Everyone
I'm really hoping that someone can help, I'm stuck with a slightly newer WM6.5 ROM on my UK O2 HD2.
I had WP7 on it a while back and liked it, but then the device had a hardware fault, so I flashed it back to the latest O2/HTC official ROM and sent it back for repair under warranty.
Now it's back, I can't get back onto WP7, because it needs Magldr, and Magldr needs spl 2.08 or older, and I'm stuck with spl3.03!
I've tried to flash it with two older ROMs (1.48 & 1.66) as they seem to be factory stock ones, but the device is still showing:
SPL-3. 03. HSPL
CotullaHSPL
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I can't seem to download any old stock roms other than the two mentioned above, so I can't get back!
Can anyone help me please? I'm desparate to get it off of WM6.5!
Thanks so much for any help you can off me...
Regards,
Fred

you cant change (HS)SPL by flashing ROM
boot to bootloader and flash HSPL 2.08
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5279236&postcount=4

Ahh!
Thank you - that wasn't very clear in the threads, and I thought the only way to downgrade HSPL was to go back to a stock ROM first.
Thank you again - I'm downloading & flashing shortly.... I'll be back in a few minutes!

Perfect - HSPL4 allowed me to flash it back to HSPL2.08, so I can now get on with a new ROM!
Thank you so much much for explaining that
Shame it isn't that clear elsewhere!!
Regards
Fred

congrats! next time please use search function before open a new thread, and do not post questions in dev section.