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Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
I am running the updated rom 2.13 I am on t-mobile though and I am able to use android all day but once I restart it reverts back to WM. So I am not sure if this helps you...I was able to get everything running but the calls sounded robotic. I read I needed to flash to a new rom.
Poopmonkey said:
Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
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Well first, if you have the T-Mobile version of the phone, you do NOT want to use an update from the HTC site, that's for the euro version of the phone. The upgraded stock rom that you can use is available on T-Mobile's support page for the HD2.
Now, flashing to the correct updated ROM will not prevent you from doing anything...you'll still be able to unlock it later, you can still run Android, and you can still do any customizations you want. It's just a newer version of the stock ROM that originally came on the phone.
Hey, thanks so much guys, I'll search for the T-mobile page. I'm glad you guys caught it before I bricked me phone.
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term. Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one? I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should? Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
Poopmonkey said:
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term.
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one?
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That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should?
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There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
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That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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Wow, thank you so much sirphunkee, you sir are a scholar with your detailed response. Anyways, I apologize but I am intrigued by your response and more questions evolve. Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
Again I would like to sincerely thank you for everyone's patience with me, especially sirphunkee. Thank you.
No problem!
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Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
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Most of the HD2's built or shipped in the past 2 months have the newer ROM on them, but even if yours doesn't then yes you can just go to the T-Mobile site and get the newer one.
Both of the stock ROM's have the radio(s) included, so you don't have to worry about it if you just stay with one of those ROM's. If you flash a custom ROM it (usually) won't have a radio included, it'll just use whatever radio was already on your phone (i.e. whatever one came with the stock ROM originally). You can flash to different radio versions....ONLY ones that are clearly labeled as being compatible with the US HD2...doesn't matter if you're running a stock or custom ROM, but it does require HSPL first before a radio can be flashed.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
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The original stock T-Mobile US ROM (yes, the one I'm running currently) is 2.10.531.1 ("2.10" for short), and the newer one that's been released is 2.13...so that pic you linked there just shows the stock upgrade utility about to upgrade a ROM to the new version (with an included radio).
You can tell what ROM/Radio is on your phone by reading the little text that appears on the bottom of the screen during bootup, and you can also access that info through a settings option once the phone is running.
"WWE" = "WorldWide English"....just means that I have an english-based ROM. Other languages are available by applying ROM's specifically built for that language, but I honestly don't even know if any exist for the T-Mobile HD2, I think they're only available for the euro model.
Since it's very easy to flash the upgraded stock ROM, if your phone comes with the older one I would just suggest running that for a few days and see if it gives you any headaches....if so, then just go ahead and flash to the newer one. There's a number of threads in this section that discuss the differences in the stock ROM's, and the advantages/disadvantages of each. Regardless of which stock ROM you have, the process to flash to a custom ROM is the same either way (HSPL, etc).
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
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HSPL is "permanent", in the sense that it remains on your phone until you manually flash a different HSPL (like flashing back to stock SPL should you need to return the phone for warranty reasons). Once you have HSPL (yes, a hard bootloader) on your phone (HSPL3 being the latest/best to use), you can flash all the different custom ROMs or radios that you want, without having to apply HSPL again.
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
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There a bunch of different things you can to to tweak a stock ROM, or to futher tweak a custom one, and BsB is just a nice tight convenient collection of some of the more common ones. I use BsB and don't have any issues related to it, but I also skip a few of the settings in it ("tap time" for example) that have caused issues for other users. Besides BsB, I also use HD2Tweak, JWMD Icon Changer, CHT/CHTE, as well as a whole list of other stand-alone tweaks that come in the form of cab files, or manual registry hacks...some are related to performance or function, while some are strictly visual or style tweaks.
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
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I originially thought the same (that Android ran in parallel with WM and that was causing the batt drain), but from what I read it actually shuts down WM when it runs, so I guess that isn't the cause of the drain...but honestly I haven't been able to keep up with all the finer details of the Android porting that's going on. And yes, a version of Androd that will load straight to NAND at bootup is the final hurdle I was talking about, and that's exactly what a number of dev's are trying very hard to make happen....I suspect that a breakthrough in that is right around the corner, but I'm no dev so take that with a grain of salt!
Hope that helps! It will be a lot easier once you have the unit in-hand and can play with it yourself. Also be sure to look over this thread (if you haven't already): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845
Thank you again sirphunkee! Anyways I just got my hd2 and for the most part I like it. Though, I have a question, how can I backup my contacts so that after a new rom install I dont need to relink their facebook accounts again? Basically, I don't have the same names for my contacts, I only have first names so I have to redo it manually one by one and I want to use activesync to do it but it's telling me I need Outlook. Why do I need Outlook? Isn't that a stupid outdated email application? Also, how do you remove all the bloatware like blockbuster from the HD2? Is flashing a custom rom the only option?
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
anyone have a idea? I'd like to experiment with android but i wanna make sure i have the right settings to i dontt have a brick in my hands after I'm done.
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Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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I think what that thread is saying is that having a custom ROM is what helps with the stability of Android, not just putting HSPL3 on there (unless that's buried in that thread somewhere that I missed...). But yes, putting a custom ROM on the phone would have the prerequisite of HSPL anyway.
I don't have a custom ROM or even HSPL on my HD2, and I'm currently using the Desire v5 build of Android on here. It seems to run very stable, but I haven't yet gotten a few things working on it (i.e. 3G)...I can't say if a custom ROM would make those things work, but I can say it doesn't ever crash or hang or seem to slow down at all.
I just wanted you to know that HSPL wasn't mandatory for you to be able to try out Android on your phone.
Ok thank you so much sirphunkee again. Anyways, I'm wondering if you know why my weather will not update now when I ask it to on a Wifi connection. I try to update it and just says that its a connection error. And also my windows marketplace app installs seem to stall on the 3/4 complete and they never finish. Could you perhaps help me with that?
Lastly, I was wondering would you be able to tell me if I wanted to put a custom ROM on my HD2 what setting do I need to put on my HD2 for a successful flash?
FIND THE "ANDROID ON HD2" THREAD everything is explained.
Hi all,
I was wondering if you guys could help me getting Android on my HD2.
I've been digging this forum for several weeks now, there is so much information that I don't know what to do!
I've got a European HD2, not the T-Mobile one. The reason I would like to have Android running on it is because Windows 6.5 hangs quite often and it's too slow in my opinion.
After finding out how to check my SPL version, I found that I have 3.03.0000. Is it actually possible to run Android on it?
I've also seen some topics about dual boot and switching back and forth between Android and WM. That's not a requirement for me, I actually prefer just running Android without having the opportunity for WM.
Some specification which I don't know it's useful, but I'll post them anyway;
- OS Version; 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
- Manila-Version; 2.5.20181527.0
- ROM Version; 3.14.404.2 (04666) NLD
- ROM Date; 10/06/10
- Radio Version; 2.15.50.14
I would appreciate your help a lot!
Kind regards,
Jerome
Flash from SPL to HSPL might going to work, but work better with custom ROM along with the HSPL.
Some user reporting that they can run Android with their stock ROM and SPL, but I don't know. Try it. You should wait a few minute for the first boot....possible at least 5.
If it don't work, then I hope you use the statement I mention in the first sentence.
Could you tell me what do you and what SPL and HSPL is exactly?
I don't have much knowledge yet, but I'm willing to learn!
Thank you for your reply anyway!
If you are willing to learn then you best option is to actually read the threads that already exist instead of creating a pointless one.
First go into the HD2 Rom thread and learn how to get HSPL on your phone and a custom rom and updated radio.
After yu have done that come back to the Android sections and learn how to boot android.
First.. Check what ROM you have currently. By the looks of it with radio 2.15.50 you look to have the latest ROM from HTC installed. Unfortunately there is no HSPL Software for the latest ROM from HTC so you will have to downgrade your rom which will let you use HSPL3 (Linkage)
SPL is the "software" on your phone that stops you flashing non HTC Roms. You use a utility called HSPL (above) to install HSPL on your phone to enable you to flash a custom rom.
Once you have HSPL on you can them flash a custom rom from the forums. I use the OzDroid 1.11 as it has been very stable at running android.
Once that is Flashed to your phone you will need to choose which android version you require. I use MDJ FroYo HD V4.3. Download it and copy the ANDROID folder onto your SD Card.
Re-boot OzDroid and you will be presented with the Choose screen. Windows or Droid. Select Android and it will boot into android. You will need to wait 5-15 mins for android to boot on first run.
Hope this helps.
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If you are willing to learn then you best option is to actually read the threads that already exist instead of creating a pointless one.
First go into the HD2 Rom thread and learn how to get HSPL on your phone and a custom rom and updated radio.
After yu have done that come back to the Android sections and learn how to boot android.
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man its not that easy, if someone has little background knowledge in all this all the unfamiliar information and new terms can be too confusing. Sometimes you just have to ask questions...
...although i do understand that there are probably thousands of posts started by asking the same exact questions ("which is the best android rom for HD2")and that can actually make it that much harder to wrap ones head around.
Do you need WM ROM, or can u run just Android?
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If you are willing to learn then you best option is to actually read the threads that already exist instead of creating a pointless one.
First go into the HD2 Rom thread and learn how to get HSPL on your phone and a custom rom and updated radio.
After yu have done that come back to the Android sections and learn how to boot android.
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Q: Do you have to load a "custom rom", I assume you mean WM ROM?
Isn't there a way to load Android straight onto the EPROM Memory of your phone, so that only Android runs and not the full WM in the background? Surely that would save RAM and battery?
I found this thread useful, also trying to wade thru the info.
Thanks
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Q: Do you have to load a "custom rom", I assume you mean WM ROM?
Isn't there a way to load Android straight onto the EPROM Memory of your phone, so that only Android runs and not the full WM in the background? Surely that would save RAM and battery?
I found this thread useful, also trying to wade thru the info.
Thanks
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no there isnt a way to do this yet without WM on the phone as well.
however, the "full WM" is not running in the background, its just needed to get the linux module started and then boot Android. Nothing is really "running in the background" but it is running from the sd card.
hope some of this helps.
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no there isnt a way to do this yet without WM on the phone as well.
however, the "full WM" is not running in the background, its just needed to get the linux module started and then boot Android. Nothing is really "running in the background" but it is running from the sd card.
hope some of this helps.
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Thanks for the reply.
Is there then a way to get both android and WM on the ROM of the HD2. Since its about 512MB, there won't be space for much else, but that should save the battery, since android wont be running from the SD card.
5haddex;
Thank you so incredible much on helping me here! I've got OzDroid running now, it looks awesome already, now I need to find my preferred Android built, but that shouldn't be a problem.
Again, thank you so much!
I've got OzDroid up and running now, works great too!
But when I try to boot into Android with the provided CleanDROID, or with CLRCAD and hared, the phone hangs after showing the command line;
Jumping into custom kernel...
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Even when I let the phone untouched for 6 hours, it won't do anything.
I've tried several Android builds, also trying to "repair" startup.txt with CleanDROID which gives me an error too.
Any thoughts? Maybe try another custom rom? Any tips or links on that one?
Cheers
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what about the EnergyROM with Sense 2.5 Reference?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8581816&postcount=3
Anybody please?
I would appreciate your help a lot!
Different Android builds don't fix the problem too. HSPL 2.08 running..
I've changed my radio to 2.10, the HD2 proceeds to the HTC booting logo, but stays there for an hour now...
Any ideas?
Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
Duff33 said:
Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
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Apologies accepted since you missed alot of threads ! Most of us have Android on our HD2's .
It was very easy but you must do somethings first to guarantee a working Android on your HD2 . (Read the Guide on my Sig. )
You don't need to backup anything as the current Android doesn't touch your internal device memory (i.e. WinMo system files) It will run off your sd card.
Have fun
kawazaki said:
Apologies accepted since you missed alot of threads ! Most of us have Android on our HD2's .
It was very easy but you must do somethings first to guarantee a working Android on your HD2 . (Read the Guide on my Sig. )
You don't need to backup anything as the current Android doesn't touch your internal device memory (i.e. WinMo system files) It will run off your sd card.
Have fun
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I ran EVO android from SD without having to mod my OEM phone.
Just make sure you do follow the directions and update the kernel as some may leave the kernel out of the bucket of legs and thighs.
It did mess with my time and date everytime I booted back into the phones OS but everything else pretty much was the same.
No speed improvements, may be a wee faster if loaded on phones memory.
Evertything the EVO Android had I had on my OEM phone, just different names on some apps.
Once I got my WM6.5 setup properly Android was usless to me.
Like linux it is a sloooooooooo booter. That is the deal breaker for me.
I like 30 second boots at the most. 20 seconds for a desktop is slow!
HD2 will live!!
HD2 with its name LEO is really a king to the jungle out there with its new era of a great processor, an outstanding screen and a sexy look!!
Wm 6.5 is fine but android really excells in combining wm and ios and making a neat interface with user friendly handling!
I'm so meticulous with my device and using stock rom and radio, i tried android from one of the great builds done by MDJ (thanx a lot to him)
It doesn't do any harm coz i didn't need to upgrade rom nor ram and everything is dealt with thru sdcard
if u don't like it; just format or erase the android folders or just leave it there if u have a big memory
it's awesome by all means!! give it a try u wont loose anything!!
TMOUS stock rom 2.10 and radio 2.08
sevoflurane said:
HD2 with its name LEO is really a king to the jungle out there with its new era of a great processor, an outstanding screen and a sexy look!!
Wm 6.5 is fine but android really excells in combining wm and ios and making a neat interface with user friendly handling!
I'm so meticulous with my device and using stock rom and radio, i tried android from one of the great builds done by MDJ (thanx a lot to him)
It doesn't do any harm coz i didn't need to upgrade rom nor ram and everything is dealt with thru sdcard
if u don't like just format or erase the android folders or just leave it there if u have a big memory
it's awesome by all means!! give it try u wont loose anything!!
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Hi there
Are you saying, that you've managed to run adndroid on your leo with stock Rom and radio? Thing is, that I would also like to try android on my handset, but I'm too scared to hurt it in any way - hence not too keen on changing rom / radio - which seem to be only way according to info I've managed to find so far
Would you care to share your phone configuration, to see what you're running?
Many thanks.
krzyzag said:
I would also like to try android on my handset, but I'm too scared to hurt it in any way - hence not too keen on changing rom / radio - which seem to be only way according to info I've managed to find so far
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Your current configuration won't run Android. It needs a radio of at least 2.08.50 (MUST be a .50, NOT a .51!!!) The ROM is irrelevant - only the radio matters to Android.
There is an official ROM upgrade available that takes you up to a 3.14 ROM with a 2.15.50 radio, but I don't know if you can use that without HSPL as you have a branded handset.
It may be possible to just upgrade the radio, from the HD2 ROMs thread, and leave your Windows ROM as it is.
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Gents,
Apologies if I have missed this in another thread (I did do a search!) or if this si the wrong forum
Has anyone gone from Win Mo 6.5 to Android on their HTC HD2? Was it easy to do? What files would I need to back up etc? And is it worth doing?
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They are two separate systems - WinMo in the phone's ROM and Android on the Phone's SD Card.
The only real requirement is that your RADIO must be at least 2.08.50 (any one higher than that with a .50 will do). So you need to know what software you already have:
Settings -> About phone -> Software information. Here you will see the Rom, Radio versions. If the radio is not correct, then we'll go through the procedure on how to update it.
The chefs in the Android ROM section give details on what you download and how to set it up.
As for backing up, there should be no need to (as they are independent systems), but better safe than sorry; install SPB Backup. Even if you weren't thinking of running Android, having a backup is always advisable.
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I have a bootscreen on WM that shows 3.14 as the ROM but in Settings/phone/ software information it still shows 1.48 and a date of 09/29/10.
Is this normal? does this mean my upgrade failed?
Radio release is same on both - 2.15.50.14
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I have a bootscreen on WM that shows 3.14 as the ROM but in Settings/phone/ software information it still shows 1.48 and a date of 09/29/10.
Is this normal? does this mean my upgrade failed?
Radio release is same on both - 2.15.50.14
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Don't worry about what is says when Windows is running. The value shown then is from the registry, so it can be changed. Have you done a restore from a backup application by any chance?
Hi there,
Im very new here. I have a T-Mobile HTC HD2. Both HTC and WinMO are something new for me, as previously im iPhone user. Any guide/help is very appreciate. The phone keep hanging during boot. Usually its hang during the pink box and when htc sense finish load. How do I fix this?
I would like to install android on this phone. Is it possible for me to install after I update to latest OS(WinMo 6.xxx).
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My HTC HD2 keep freeze during boot. Now I want back to normal, whatever ROM is it.
Welcome to XDA and whole real world as I am sure iPanzy kept you down but thats another matter for another day. Now I am not sure what pink box you are talking about you mean the splash boot? What are you using WM6.5? In that case look below.
Now you have few choice as HD2 is true multi platform device, as we are belessed with superior dev team and support many OS. You can use dual boot WM(NAND) and AOSP(mSD) or you can use NANDROID. If you pick dual boot I say use WM6.5.X as base 29XXX is by far the most superior stable then if you want to use AOSP then download and install Android on SDCard or skip all of that and use NANDROID as native.
Pink box I mean is probably shows "Stick Together" words
Now even worse, after few second the phone boot it freeze. I`ve tried factory reset, the same thing keep happening. What should I do now? Should I flash to new offical ROM/OS?
FYI in using T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1024MB ROM.
For now let forget installing android on but focus on the freeze.
Thanks for the help STHNS
I know you are using Leo1024 as its TMobile also I had feeling it would be that ugly logo thats why I said splash boot. Which was the first thing I got rid of when I got HD2 and put custom splashscreen.
Now it would be unwise to jump in to Android as you might want to check if your HD2 is functioning properly so later if something does go wrong you can send it back for warranty without issue. So lets be clear what are you saying? You can't load in to your WM6.5? SenseUI never loads? or your stuck at bootscreen? Is it used/new? Where did you get this device?
My phone stuck on 3 difference places. I keep reset so the phone can be use normally. Indeed very few time its successfully boot.
1. Stuck on Pink box logo"Stick Together "
2. Stuck on loading Sense UI
3. Stuck after finish loading Sense UI.
Most of it stuck on 2 or 3.
Well no problem first where did you get this device? I have a feeling its used and you got it though some type of shady deal where original owner gave you talk about blah blah lol thats why he sold it, I could be wrong
But serious matter here shut the HD2 down completely and power it back on. Then report what you see the in steps. Hopefully you got it new if something is wrong due to faulty hardware you can send it for repair or warranty. But I have a feeling you don't thats why you came here :O again I could be wrong I am just always suspicious
Its used and i bought it on eBay.
Btw how could flash to offical ROM?
What rom is on it? And why would you want official rom? If you want WM based rom go use EnergyROM WM6.5.X 29XXX base as its far more stable.
EnergyROM WM6.5
Does the installation is same as official ROM?
To test the phone, I advice to go to the HTC Website and download a ROM (you have to use your phone's serial number to guarantee to get one suitable for your phone). If I remember correctly there are 3 variations: 2.08, 2.10 and 3.14. - go for the 2.10 (just to keep away from the 3.14 version as you want to move onto Android). Flash the ROM.
After a hard reset there should be no problems, if there is then your phone has hardware issues.
Thanks for the info fred.
Where I can download the 2.14 version?
What is shipped ROM?
What the diffence between shipped ROM vs official ROM.
Sorry for a lot questions. HTC and WinMo is something new to me. Im iPhone user.
2.14? You mean 3.14?
1) Shipped rom is the default manufacture rom that comes standard on it.
2) No diff between shipped and official rom they are same thing we call them stock rom. Which is supported and maintained by the folks who made the phone.
If you want to upgrade stock rom not sure why you want to do that you can go to Tmobile website and check under wmupgrade or go to HTC website and look under support. I say you forget about WM 6.5 stock rom and go use WM6.5.X EnergyROM base 29XXX its simply superior in every aspect.
The reason I suggest you flash, for example, the 2.10 ROM is that it will flash the SPL, the main ROM and the RADIO. This will get the phone running fully on an official ROM.
The problem you have can either be modifications to the operating system software or additional software or a hardware problem. By flashing a stock (official) ROM you will have cleared the existing operating system and additional software. Now if the problem is still there then it is very likely that it is due to a hardware problem.
If after flashing the problem is gone, then by all means flash the excellant Energy ROM or flash your desired Android ROM.
If you only flash a custom ROM which does not include the RADIO (which controls all communication interaction and not just the FM Radio) then you are reducing the chances of finding out the problem.
Silly question, have you tried booting the phone up without the SD Card?
After all the problem, freeze, hang up and etc I no longer put any sd card on my htc hd2. I beleive the problem might be with the hardware. But why not we try our best before given up on it.
I had several simple questions.
1. Can radio be downgrade?
2. What radio for? Its same like baseband on iPhone
3. Where I can download 2.10 HTC HD2 US T-Mobile? Search here found nothing
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After all the problem, freeze, hang up and etc I no longer put any sd card on my htc hd2. I beleive the problem might be with the hardware. But why not we try our best before given up on it.
I had several simple questions.
1. Can radio be downgrade?
2. What radio for? Its same like baseband on iPhone
3. Where I can download 2.10 HTC HD2 US T-Mobile? Search here found nothing
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1) Yes you can downgrade Leo_Radio's long as you use the correct one as you know there is .50 for HD2-US(Leo1024) and .51 HD2-EU(Leo512).
2) Radio is software that controls your phones wireless interfaces such as data, voice, bluetooth, gps, wifi and other power and memory related firmwares. Well never used iOS so can't say what they call it but far as AOSP goes yes we call it baseband.
3) Search for TMoUS 2.10 stock rom and you will find it or do search in this forum as I am sure someone has it archived.
3)
Answer to your question No. 1 - Yes, Radio can be downgraded and upgraded if you install HSPL prior to downgrade/upgrade. FOr the rest you have to search the forum for the answer.
i got static on my hd2 when i make calls. it was suggested that i change the radio rom to hopefully eliminate the static. i've never modded an hd2 phone before. i got a stock 6.5 on it. i hope its possible to change the radio rom without modding the stock 6.5. how do i change the radio rom? what are the steps?
i ask ONLY serious ppl to reply, no trolls or negative ppl.
You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
*laughs till chokes*
Seriously, tho, you will get way better help with this attitude than your other earlier thread
Good luck.
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Shame on you Sam
samsamuel said:
*laughs till chokes*
Seriously, tho, you will get way better help with this attitude than your other earlier thread
Good luck.
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listen, stop f***ing harassing me already!!! no one has an attitude, the only one with it is you! you harassed me on the other thread and youre on the verge of getting banned on this one!! get off my thread!!
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You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. good to hear from u again. ok, i read your message on my other thread. below are my current specs. but honestly, this phone shouldnt make any static calls whatsoever. its brand new. it should make CLEAR calls right out the box and i shouldnt have to flash it with any roms as a result.
os version: 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
manila version: 2.5.20181424.0
rom version: 3.14.531.1 (04666) WWE
rom date : 9/29/10
radio version: 2.15.50.14
protocal version: 15.42.50.11W
it looks like i got the most current version of the radio and stock rom.
but to be honest, all this flashing sounds risky and complicated. i already owned TWO hd2s and they gave the same static. i sent the 1st one to htc for repair TWICE and it came back unrepaired. i bought a 2nd hd2 and it had the SAME static. at this point, i cant beleive that any hd2s are static free. are you guys sure u dont have static everytime someone talks on a call?
also, this loser, samsamuel, is harassing me and i dont know why!! i STRONGY urge u to ban this guy from my thread and any of my future threads. he harassed me in my prior thread and hes creating problems on this one.
Lol, I was calling you on your bad attitude, not harassing you but enough said, I'll not post in your thread again.
Best of luck with your defective Leo.
lol "i'm not paranoid, they really are out to get me!"
i just want to add a few things:
1. you shouldn't HAVE to mess with your device. in an ideal world, it should work out of the box. but such is life...
2. the rest of us don't HAVE to help you...but we do, and for free! mind you, samsamuel's thoughts and posts are valuable and insightful, and i guess any "attitude" you received was probably well placed because your conclusion in your previous thread was based on statistical evidence when we all know that "correlation doesn't imply cause and effect". finally, your "how to change radio ROM" query has already been well answered and well documented on these forums, just search and read!
and now for the thread topic:
1. having the latest version of the radio doesn't mean it is the best version for your combination of network+location.
2. i honestly don't know for sure why you get static on every hd2 you have owned. the odds of getting a lemon so many times in a row are astronomical! mine works just fine. a friend and i brought our hd2s together from the same guy on the same day. his hd2 works fine also. my uncle has two hd2s, both of his work fine. another distant relative has an hd2, and given the pattern, you'd be correct if you guessed that his works fine too. no static on any of these hd2s!
3. are you using a TMOUS sim in the phone? have you tried another sim? have you tried demonstrating the problem to a TMOUS representative in-person?
4. is the device sim free, i.e. can you try another network's sim in your device? worth a shot...might be a long standing network/tower problem in your area.
anyway, cool down dude, don't be all paranoid, no one is harassing you in the true sense of the word...just slightly using the "stick" approach to nudge you into doing more reading and research of your own. it sure beats the whole process of posting->waiting->getting harassed->posting some more->waiting->so on. cheers
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Lol, I was calling you on your bad attitude, not harassing you but enough said, I'll not post in your thread again.
Best of luck with your defective Leo.
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T-Macgnolia i'll be sending you a private message about this troll.. please read.
ASCIIker said:
lol "i'm not paranoid, they really are out to get me!"
i just want to add a few things:
1. you shouldn't HAVE to mess with your device. in an ideal world, it should work out of the box. but such is life...
2. the rest of us don't HAVE to help you...but we do, and for free! mind you, samsamuel's thoughts and posts are valuable and insightful, and i guess any "attitude" you received was probably well placed because your conclusion in your previous thread was based on statistical evidence when we all know that "correlation doesn't imply cause and effect". finally, your "how to change radio ROM" query has already been well answered and well documented on these forums, just search and read!
and now for the thread topic:
1. having the latest version of the radio doesn't mean it is the best version for your combination of network+location.
2. i honestly don't know for sure why you get static on every hd2 you have owned. the odds of getting a lemon so many times in a row are astronomical! mine works just fine. a friend and i brought our hd2s together from the same guy on the same day. his hd2 works fine also. my uncle has two hd2s, both of his work fine. another distant relative has an hd2, and given the pattern, you'd be correct if you guessed that his works fine too. no static on any of these hd2s!
3. are you using a TMOUS sim in the phone? have you tried another sim? have you tried demonstrating the problem to a TMOUS representative in-person?
4. is the device sim free, i.e. can you try another network's sim in your device? worth a shot...might be a long standing network/tower problem in your area.
anyway, cool down dude, don't be all paranoid, no one is harassing you in the true sense of the word...just slightly using the "stick" approach to nudge you into doing more reading and research of your own. it sure beats the whole process of posting->waiting->getting harassed->posting some more->waiting->so on. cheers
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i dont want your help.. dont comment on my thread anymore.
Member ASCIIker is correct as it could be your SIM card giving you issues as the HD2 has been know to act kind of funky with some SIM cards. I would see about getting a new SIM card and see if that may solve your issue. You have the current up to date ROM and Radio on your HD2 so it is more than likely a issue with something besides the HD2. Try the a new SIM and then post back here with the result.
Cheers
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Member ASCIIker is correct as it could be your SIM card giving you issues as the HD2 has been know to act kind of funky with some SIM cards. I would see about getting a new SIM card and see if that may solve your issue. You have the current up to date ROM and Radio on your HD2 so it is more than likely a issue with something besides the HD2. Try the a new SIM and then post back here with the result.
Cheers
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hi, magnolia.. i tried a different sim, which was a pre-paid sim, and i still get static everytime someone talks on the other end of the call.
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hi, magnolia.. i tried a different sim, which was a pre-paid sim, and i still get static everytime someone talks on the other end of the call.
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Damn that sucks man. Have you tried taking your SD card out maybe you got something funky going on with it as I have heard of some people taking their SD card out and it solving weird problems like this.
I assume since you said it was a prepaid card you do have your HD2 SIM unlocked, Ialso know you-know-what what SIzm unlocking is as you talked about it in the first thread I seen you in.
If trying different radios and another SIM card has not helped I am not really sure what could be the issue, unless there is just a bad cell tower or something in your area that is only malfunctioning on the GSM bands the HD2 uses. I find it hard to believe you were unlucky enough to get two HD2s that had the same issue causing static. Not saying it could not happened but the chances astronomical.
Have you tried different radios? It has been busy for my this week and I forget if you have.
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You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
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Hi, T-macgnolia. I really need to update my radio ROM. But based on my current stock ROM of 3.14, I’m limited to only 2 specific radio ROMS. I’m using one of them and obviously, I’m still getting distortion on calls. As a result, I want to install a custom ROM to install a lower version radio ROM that’ll hopefully remove distortion from calls. As I said before, I’ve never modded an htc phone before.
Since I got a TMOUS phone, you said not to install the following cuz I may brick it:
Leo_RADIO_15.36.50.07U_2.09.51.03 **(from HTC **1.72)
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)
Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2 (from HTC ** 1.48)
Leo_RADIO_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2(from HTC ** 1.43)
Anyway, what custom ROM do you suggest I install for my TMOUS so that i can install the right radio ROM on it? I want one that looks exactly like WM 6.5. also, can you provide the steps needed to install a custom ROM on my SD card.. thank you.
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Damn that sucks man. Have you tried taking your SD card out maybe you got something funky going on with it as I have heard of some people taking their SD card out and it solving weird problems like this.
If trying different radios and another SIM card has not helped I am not really sure what could be the issue, unless there is just a bad cell tower or something in your area that is only malfunctioning on the GSM bands the HD2 uses. I find it hard to believe you were unlucky enough to get two HD2s that had the same issue causing static. Not saying it could not happened but the chances astronomical.
Have you tried different radios? It has been busy for my this week and I forget if you have.
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Oh wow, sorry T-Macgnolia. i failed to see your last reply to me before I sent you my last post to you. i havent tried a different radio ROM yet becuz i need your advice on that before i proceed. can you please read my last post to you concerning the steps and installation of radio ROMS? I'd HUGELY appreciate it. as a reminder, i got a locked TMOUS phone.
I'll await your reply.. thanks again man!!.
koolxx said:
Hi, T-macgnolia. I really need to update my radio ROM. But based on my current stock ROM of 3.14, I’m limited to only 2 specific radio ROMS. I’m using one of them and obviously, I’m still getting distortion on calls. As a result, I want to install a custom ROM to install a lower version radio ROM that’ll hopefully remove distortion from calls. As I said before, I’ve never modded an htc phone before.
Since I got a TMOUS phone, you said not to install the following cuz I may brick it:
Leo_RADIO_15.36.50.07U_2.09.51.03 **(from HTC **1.72)
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)
Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2 (from HTC ** 1.48)
Leo_RADIO_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2(from HTC ** 1.43)
Anyway, what custom ROM do you suggest I install for my TMOUS? I want one that looks exactly like WP 6.5. also, can you provide the steps needed to install a custom ROM on my SD card.. thank you.
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Yes do not flash any of those radios to your HD2 as they will brick your HD2, no might to it, they will brick it. look at the numbers I have highlighted and this is what you look for in radios that will brick a TMOUS HD2, any 2.05.50.xx radio will brick it too.
Ok the one ROM that comes to my mind when you say you want a ROM that is close to stock id the Energy ROMs as the ROM chef NRGZ28 has multiple ROM versions in that thread, all of wich IO highly recomend you just have to pick your flavor. Here is a link to the Energy ROM thread if you want to look at screen shots of all the ROMs as you might find one you like more than the ones he has that are close to stock. Here is a link directly to the post #3 which has the close to stock ROMs in it, you will probably want to go with the Eergy version are the Reference version from this post. to download click on the American flag and then select the most current version of the ROM you want.
Here is something you need to know it will help you know wich download to click on when you go to hotfix from clicking on the flag. This comes straight from post #1 of the Energy ROM thread, I added the red and blue writing to help you understand.
Looking at the download folder you will find two core versions of my ROM.
* The 21916 Build which is the most reliable and bug free release. It has the Start menu button at the top left corner! I recommend you start with this first!
This is the number for the closest to stock ROMs when you go to the download link.
* The 29017 Build that's the latest in the 6.5.X series with the Start menu button at the bottom left corner and big softkeys. These builds are not as stable or perfect, but they reflect the latest cutting edge technology from Microsoft. These are also much more finger friendly throughout.
This is number for the ROMs that are a little more modified but still close to stock if you use the ROMs I suggested.
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Click on my guide in my signature to learn how to flash HSPL to your HD2 as you will have to have it to flash a custom ROM. It has a link to where you download HSPL and complete instructions on how to flash it.
Almost forgot go to here to learn how to flash via SD card.
T-Macgnolia said:
Yes do not flash any of those radios to your HD2 as they will brick your HD2, no might to it, they will brick it. look at the numbers I have highlighted and this is what you look for in radios that will brick a TMOUS HD2, any 2.05.50.xx radio will brick it too.
Ok the one ROM that comes to my mind when you say you want a ROM that is close to stock id the Energy ROMs as the ROM chef NRGZ28 has multiple ROM versions in that thread, all of wich IO highly recomend you just have to pick your flavor. Here is a link to the Energy ROM thread if you want to look at screen shots of all the ROMs as you might find one you like more than the ones he has that are close to stock. Here is a link directly to the post #3 which has the close to stock ROMs in it, you will probably want to go with the Eergy version are the Reference version from this post. to download click on the American flag and then select the most current version of the ROM you want.
Here is something you need to know it will help you know wich download to click on when you go to hotfix from clicking on the flag. This comes straight from post #1 of the Energy ROM thread, I added the red and blue writing to help you understand.
Click on my guide in my signature to learn how to flash HSPL to your HD2 as you will have to have it to flash a custom ROM. It has a link to where you download HSPL and complete instructions on how to flash it.
Almost forgot go to here to learn how to flash via SD card.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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WM6.5 Stock uses an older Windows Mobile Build.. Build 6.5.3 I believe was the when it started to be more finger friendly and in turn has the larger buttons.. So if you like how the older build looks then look for roms that have that version of WM6.5
Look in the WM6.5 Themes you might find something you like
As for Battery Life.. It all depends many factors... Some say the latest Radio has a higher battery usage while others say the complete opposite.. You must check which combination of Radio/ROM fits your location the best and if the battery is decent enough to stick with.. That why most people start out thinking they wont flash roms, but once they start having problems or want better performace they change their mind
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hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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21916 will give you start menu in the top left corner without the big ugly softkeys... thats the other build number.
It only shows that in the pic as it seems to be the most popular version.
Battery life with energy roms tends be less than some other roms as they are optimised for speed. Battery life is by no means bad though. You should still be able to make it through a full day without worrying about running out of juice. That said, there are other roms which will give you better battery life if this is a huge issue for you.
Also, not sure if this has been mentioned yet but when trying out different radios its apparently a good idea to test it out for at least 48hrs before you decide if its making a difference or not.....
Yes koolxx as canantroutman posted the 21916 ROM will give you the same soft keys at the bottom and the same start key at the top like the stock ROMs do.The ROM you like the Reference ROM is based of the latest stock ROM so yes it is the latest ROM. So far as battery life goes I can not give any first hand feed back on this as AI have not used that ROM. What I can do though is refer you to member facdemol's "Various ROMs power consumption" thread, link is below. If you go and read his first post you can see from his test resoults that all ROMs use just about the same power as far as power consumption goes, but he does say that all around the Energy ROM does best on power consumption. Go check the thread out it is a very informative thread and project he is working on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018833