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According to Samsung's official page, Galaxy Tab 10.1 should release with [the TouchWiz UX layered over] Honeycomb 3.1
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/the-next-generation-of-galaxy-tabs
Obviously 3.1 is very new, but I can't find any other Samsung source confirming that it will ship with 3.1. Most pages still say "3.0"
Has Samsung truly changed their ways as far as updates? With 3.1 being announced only a month prior to a device's release, they're now claiming Tab 10.1 to be introduced with the latest version. This is awfully quick considering it took about a year for Froyo to hit their Galaxy S handsets.
Hopefully this bodes well for future updates, too (I'm looking at you ICS).
Interesting ...
I am curious about the Book Cover accessories mentioned there.
Anyone know how does it function and look like?
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3.1 is considered a minor update to 3.0. That's why it is still referred to as Honeycomb. It is not the same as the update from 2.2 and 2.3 where they gave them different designations (froyo and gingerbread) and the API changed a lot.
I noticed that too (about the Book Cover). I have a suspicious feeling it will look eerily similar to the Smart Cover for iPad 2 (same goes for the 10.1 itself) -- to be honest, I would be happy with that .
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3.1 is considered a minor update to 3.0. That's why it is still referred to as Honeycomb. It is not the same as the update from 2.2 and 2.3 where they gave them different designations (froyo and gingerbread) and the API changed a lot.
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I get that it's a small upgrade, I was just surprised that Samsung isn't going to release it as an OTA a few months after the device is for sale, as that has been their modus operandi for their current Android devices (save for the Nexus S).
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I wish google would hint towards the future for us early adopters..
Forgetabout a new update lets see source!
Google promised updates for 18 months on new devices. http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
First tablet to market with Android 3.0
First tablet with Android 3.1
Google has announced 4.0 Ice cream.
Hopefully we'll be the first with 4.0 too
As far as the OP I don't think the question should be about Google updating the xoom really. Google makes honeycomb so i think the real question has to be whether they will update honeycomb again before ice cream comes out. As far as I can tell once the next version of android OS comes out the previous version seems to stop being upgraded (once froyo came eclair stopped moving, froyo stopped updating with gingerbread, etc). Will honeycomb stop with ice cream? judging by the past, probably.
As far as the future of early adopters, I think the best thing to hope for is that the xoom (tegra 2) will be sufficient to run ice cream and be compatible enough that it will appear OTA directly from Google. As far the xoom being the first device to get it, I highly doubt it. Odds are a new "vanilla" device be it phone or tablet will debut the OS (also with whatever developments have been made in mobile processors since tegra2 under the hood). Yes the naked truth is that it is a fast fast moving market.
The percs offered to early xoom owners from google have been: first to get honeycomb 3.1 and guaranteed invitation/acceptance to Google music. Beyond this I don't think Google has anymore special treatment up the sleeves. And I don't immagine they are that stoked about being subtly expected to do damage control for Motorola's 4g problems.
If there does happen to be a HC 3.2 upgrade before ice cream then perhaps xoom owners may be first to get it but at any rate i immagine ice cream ends up on the xoom regardles, either through xda or Google or of course both.
And I think that is the future for xoom owners.
Edit: and just to clarify, I dont think Google exactly promised that they would update devices for 18 months, but rather that their partners have promised to update their devices to run whatever compatible android versions are released for those devices for 18 months. I.e no being stuck on froyo forever even though your phone can run gingerbread. What we would want to hear iis tthat Google promises to release compatible updates for your device for 18 months, but this isnt what they said. Plus that would pivot around device release times which isn't possible. If a new device comes at the end of an OS cycle I doubt Google will carry version for another year because one phone hopped on at the last minute. Btw sorry to be so cynical guys, just calling it as i see it
No update no sd
It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
HC 3.1 is the final version, next version is smoerrebroed 4.0.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
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This is absolute FUD. You don't know that this is true, nor have there been any indications from Google/Moto that this is the case. Stop scaremongering.
raviosopr said:
ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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US Xooms will probably get updates to ICS I guess... didn't they have a prototype of ICS at Google I/O on a Xoom?
raviosopr said:
ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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No, they said it would be merging of the Tablet and Phone - so it should be any sized screen (although that probably just ranges from phone (can't think of lowest size, but lets say for the sake of argument 3" -> tablet 10.1"
jm9843 said:
Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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I concur - that's how I read it all too
Also I imagine there may be a couple of bugfixes along the way but nothing major till ICS (4.0?)
so maybe 3.1.1, 3.1.2, probably not a 3.2 - only if there's a new feature they want to push out that is fairly big...
However - if google are responsible for the SD Card slot - then 3.2 may address that issue - else it'd probably just be a 3.1.1 update judging on how they have done updating numbering on the past...
I think Google had Moto add SD to be ready for Ice cream. Its my idea that that was the plan maybe im crazy but who knows
Was browsing the internet and I came upon this article. The editor has a good point... read on...
This weekend the first wave of Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews were released. Despite an overwhelming appreciation for the hardware, build quality and design, the slate carved out ho-hum scores due to its OS, Android Honeycomb.
As a firm believer in software’s ability to wield better performance from existing hardware I’m perplexed by the Honeycomb situation. Developers are not flocking in droves like I’d expected and in three months we have just a handful of Honeycomb-optimized apps.
The progress is quite unsettling when compared to the original iPad which added nearly 5,000 iPad-specific titles to the App Store in its first 30 days. If apps alone were the measurement of success, Honeycomb would be on the brink of failure. Thankfully that’s not the case, not by a long shot.
It’s not possible to compare Honeycomb to the transition from iOS on the iPhone to iPad. Apple transplanted its OS to a larger screen with only minor adjustments to the UI. Meanwhile, Google built Honeycomb from the ground up as a tablet OS. In time the paths of Gingerbread and Honeycomb will meet with the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich.
The important takeaway for Honeycomb is the browser, email client and multi-tasking are quite refined for a new software build. Google has proven its commitment to the OS by releasing an Android 3.1 update less than two months after the Motorola Xoom launched. A second update, Android 3.2, is scheduled for later this year.
There’s no arguing the slow acceptance of Honeycomb by app developers. Maybe they’re waiting for Ice Cream Sandwich so they can develop with the one-and-done approach. Or maybe they want to see a minimum number of Android tablet owners on the market ready and willing to buy their apps. Whatever the case may be I can promise you that without wide-scale support of the platform through early adopters, Android innovation will come to a grinding halt.
The good news is that apps will come, albeit slower that expected. As a mobile OS, Honeycomb is in a far better position than Android 1.0 was after three months. The best way to approach Honeycomb is to take a deep breath and evaluate the OS for what it is — a fresh build. In that regard the strides are remarkable. With or without apps, Android Honeycomb packs a strong foundation and the bloodline for success.
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http://electricpig.co.uk/2011/06/21/state-of-android-honeycomb/
With that said, I will be keeping my Galaxy Tab and will be looking forward to the Ice Cream Sandwich release...
But is sammy capable or updating the tabs to ICS or will be releasing tab 3 with ICS
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But is sammy capable or updating the tabs to ICS or will be releasing tab 3 with ICS
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Google announced at I/O that devices purchased will be supported with updates for 18 months from date of purchase, hardware capabilities permitting, of course. So I'd imagine the Galaxy Tab 10.1 should definitely qualify, esp when you think about a lot of the devices being released lately (including the Nexus S which is only a single core phone, so hardware should def not be a problem for ICS).
Google may launch Android 5.0 Jelly Bean in 2Q12
Viewing that the adoption of Android 4.0 has fallen short of original expectations and Microsoft will launch Windows 8 in the third quarter of 2012, Google is likely to launch Android 5.0 (Jelly Bean) in the second quarter and appeal for adopting Android 5.0 and Windows 8 in the same tablet PC, according to Taiwan-based supply chain makers.
Android 5.0 will be further optimized for tablet PCs, while Google will also integrate its Chrome system functions to push dual-operating system designs. Brand vendors can either choose to adopt only Android 5.0 or add Android 5.0 to Windows 8 devices with the ability to switch between the two OSes without the need to shut down the computer.
Through Android 5.0, Google also wishes to earn another chance to enter the notebook and netbook markets.
However, since Android 4.0 did not perform as well as expected, several of Google's downstream partners are turning conservative about Android 5.0.
Source http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html
Finally folks will quit fussing about not having ICS yet. Now they will start fussing about not having Jelly Bean..........
This seems completely absurd. What does it mean by companies arent adopting ICS?? Arent we seeing lists of dates when ICS will be updated to HTc, Motorola, Acer, Asus hardware? Why would I want to boot into windows 8? Pure internets hogwash.
Microsoft has stated that Windows 8 tablets will have secure-boot meaning you will not be allowed/able to install another OS on the tablet, so how could Google promise to be able to switch between Android and Windows?
Weird article, a lot of loose claims about poor adoption of ICS and OEMs being wary about it (implied that they may be considering windows 8 instead) with no information whatsoever to back up those claims.
Honestly this reads just like one of those old-school, Microsoft-sponsored FUD pieces of yore.
I guess will start seeing tons of threads with polls on the release date for JB. I am sure people will be threatening to trade their TF for an ipad if it is not released by July 4th. It appears that OS development has be come a war of anticipation rather than actual delivered product.
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Microsoft has stated that Windows 8 tablets will have secure-boot meaning you will not be allowed/able to install another OS on the tablet, so how could Google promise to be able to switch between Android and Windows?
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Afaik it's not mandatory for OEMs to include secure-boot.
I think Digitimes is losing something in their translation from their Taiwanese supply contacts. We can pretty safely assume, that Jellybean will not be released in Q2 2012. It will likely be previewed at Google I/O (which is in Q2) and released in late Q4 2012 with the new nexus device. Also, the version number is more likely to be 4.1 not 5.0 since Jellybean will be building upon the new interface paradigms introduced in ICS. Similar to how Froyo and GB were point releases after Eclair.
That's my gut feeling anyway, for what its worth.
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Microsoft has stated that Windows 8 tablets will have secure-boot meaning you will not be allowed/able to install another OS on the tablet, so how could Google promise to be able to switch between Android and Windows?
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Partially true.
Windows 8 ARM based tablets do have to have secure boot enabled, it can't be disabled, only signed OS's will boot, and only MS can sign the OS's, so basically for ARM based Windows 8 tablets (at least if the company selling it wants the "Windows 8" sticker), they will be locked to MS, until someone hacks it.
For x86 based Windows 8 tablets and PC's, they must ship with secure boot enabled, but you will be able to disable that in Bios/Uefi and load OS's without signed bootloaders (like android, linux, etc).
Basically the same situation we have now. ARM based tablets from Google partners and Apple have a locked bootloader, so no other OS can be loaded, unless you hack it.
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I think Digitimes is losing something in their translation from their Taiwanese supply contacts. We can pretty safely assume, that Jellybean will not be released in Q2 2012. It will likely be previewed at Google I/O (which is in Q2) and released in late Q4 2012 with the new nexus device. Also, the version number is more likely to be 4.1 not 5.0 since Jellybean will be building upon the new interface paradigms introduced in ICS. Similar to how Froyo and GB were point releases after Eclair.
That's my gut feeling anyway, for what its worth.
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It does seem like a quick transition from ICS to Jelly Bean... I agree with you.
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I think Digitimes is losing something in their translation from their Taiwanese supply contacts. We can pretty safely assume, that Jellybean will not be released in Q2 2012. It will likely be previewed at Google I/O (which is in Q2) and released in late Q4 2012 with the new nexus device. Also, the version number is more likely to be 4.1 not 5.0 since Jellybean will be building upon the new interface paradigms introduced in ICS. Similar to how Froyo and GB were point releases after Eclair.
That's my gut feeling anyway, for what its worth.
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1, Google announced it will push updates to Android every 6th month. So counting from November 17th, it would be around the middle of May. It won't be previewed, but released at Google I/O, with the new Nexus device (just as before, and also probably the attendants are getting a free device too).
2, Google told, that from now on, with ICS, they are stepping in major version numbers for each main release. So JB is for sure 5.0.x, and ICS will be 4.x going on.
JoTeC said:
It does seem like a quick transition from ICS to Jelly Bean... I agree with you.
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Companies are moving to quicker and quicker release cycles with less and less content. Really small, focused updates. Google themselves basically started this trend (or popularized it if they didn't actually start it) with the Chrome browser, which releases frequently. You have have noticed that FireFox has gone from version 3.x to version 10.1 in record time, as they have adopted the same mentality. I would not be shocked at all to see Google apply it to Andorid, and we start seeing Android 5, 6, 7, etc., at a rapid pace.
EDIT: oops, fonix232 beat me to it.
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1, Google announced it will push updates to Android every 6th month. So counting from November 17th, it would be around the middle of May. It won't be previewed, but released at Google I/O, with the new Nexus device (just as before, and also probably the attendants are getting a free device too).
2, Google told, that from now on, with ICS, they are stepping in major version numbers for each main release. So JB is for sure 5.0.x, and ICS will be 4.x going on.
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My post was speculation, you seem to be stating facts. What sources are you basing this on (besides just stating "Google told")?
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My post was speculation, you seem to be stating facts. What sources are you basing this on (besides just stating "Google told")?
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I base my facts on reading the news and their announces from various pages, including Android Blog (d.android.com), XDA itself, AndroidPolice, and many other news sites, Google's and Jean-Baptiste Queru's (head of Android development, the talks-guy, pretty awesome dude!) Twitter, and many more.
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I base my facts on reading the news and their announces from various pages, including Android Blog (d.android.com), XDA itself, AndroidPolice, and many other news sites, Google's and Jean-Baptiste Queru's (head of Android development, the talks-guy, pretty awesome dude!) Twitter, and many more.
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Good for you buddy, high five. Could you post some links then?
Does this come from anywhere besides Digitimes? They have a pretty hit and miss record for reporting the news.
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Good for you buddy, high five. Could you post some links then?
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Do you seriously want me to look back half or even a year old entries on sites what are growing like 10post/day?
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Do you seriously want me to look back half or even a year old entries on sites what are growing like 10post/day?
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Yes, seriously. Tell you what, provide 1 link that backs up your post.
Listen, don't take it personally. I don't know you so I can't take you at your word. I just want to something that backs up your claims. I follow android development pretty closely and I haven't read anywhere that android releases will be pushed to 6 months apart and all new releases will be full version numbers. AFAIK The last time that google commented on android development cycles was here,
http://androidandme.com/2010/06/news/interviews/android-will-move-to-a-yearly-update-cycle/
I just want a source so I can be better educated on the subject. It's not personal.
JoTeC said:
Viewing that the adoption of Android 4.0 has fallen short of original expectations and Microsoft will launch Windows 8 in the third quarter of 2012, Google is likely to launch Android 5.0 (Jelly Bean) in the second quarter and appeal for adopting Android 5.0 and Windows 8 in the same tablet PC, according to Taiwan-based supply chain makers.
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Oh, goodie, another rushed Android release. Because that just went *so* damned well with Honeycomb.
Seriously, if this has a grain of truth to it, Google need to get a clue, and finish writing and testing their software properly before they release it.
I want a source straight from the horse's mouth. Digitimes is a garbage source and all of the articles I've seen so far are equally garbage because they cite Digitimes which is a garbage source.
Nothing is authoritative here, there are no statements from Google.
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Android 5.0 Jelly Bean may arrive as early as Q2 2012, supply chain sources claim, with Google apparently integrating Chrome OS functionality for dual-boot tablets and netbooks. Those aren’t the search giant’s only dual-OS ambitions, however; insiders tell DigiTimes that Google is pushing Android 5.0 and Windows 8 hybrids to its manufacturing partners, for notebooks, netbooks and tablets that offer the best of both platforms.
Although Google is yet to comment significantly on whether Ice Cream Sandwich has met its expectations in the market, it’s clear that Android 4.0 is yet to gain a significant foothold. According to Google’s own stats, as of February 1 2012 only 1-percent of devices were running ICS, with the majority still on Android 2.3.x Gingerbread.
The dual-booting Android 5.0 Jelly Bean and Windows 8 machines will be able to hot-swap between the two platforms, the sources indicate, rather than demanding a reboot each time. That would give users the opportunity to use Android for its web-centric functionality and speed, while switching to Windows would offer the various legacy and business apps many users still demand. Update: It’s worth remembering that Microsoft’s Windows 8 hardware requirements apparently block second OS installation on ARM-based PCs by users, thanks to a locked Secure Boot system, though it’s unclear whether OEMs are permitted to do so before the hardware leaves the factory. [Thanks Richard!]
Google is supposedly seeing Android 5.0 as a second chance at the notebook and netbook markets, Chrome OS failing to grab attention as expected, though the tipsters warn that the response to Ice Cream Sandwich has left some partners “conservative” about the new platform.
Part of Google’s challenge is encouraging timely OS updates among vendors. Motorola revealed its timescale for upgrading US Android devices yesterday, with most not expected to see Ice Cream Sandwich until Q3 2012 or later
Credit to MMosley from CIH for passing this on
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I read the same thing a couple of times and i think androidcentral said it best. It will probably be announced and google I/O but not launch and until then its all rumors
I get all my info about google's android version's from wikipedia
It looks like 5.0 will be mainly for tablets PC's and also dual cores. So I don't think the shift would benifit from it much at all.
bu-bu-but Ice Cream Sandwich! I want it on my shift! It's the best OS evar!!!
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bu-bu-but Ice Cream Sandwich! I want it on my shift! It's the best OS evar!!!
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And you shall have it. Jelly bean is pretty much honeycomb all over again but better... Hopefully and thats if all these rumors are true
YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
And you shall have it. Jelly bean is pretty much honeycomb all over again but better... Hopefully and thats if all these rumors are true
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Yeah, comparing ICS vs HC or GB vs HC is like comparing apples to oranges for the shift. Right now GB is a lot better vs ICS until all the bugs get worked out and has funtioning 4G wimax.
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Yeah, comparing ICS vs HC or GB vs HC is like comparing apples to oranges for the shift. Right now GB is a lot better vs ICS until all the bugs get worked out and has funtioning 4G wimax.
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I meant he shall have ics. If jelly bean is for tablets and honeycomb is for tablets then it may not be open source. It that is true it doesn't bother me seeing as i won't be getting a tablet for a good year or two whenever i see it actually having worth for me. I returned my HTC flyer cause i really didn't need it and bought a fourth 22 inch tv and the sony google tv lol
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I meant he shall have ics. If jelly bean is for tablets and honeycomb is for tablets then it may not be open source. It that is true it doesn't bother me seeing as i won't be getting a tablet for a good year or two whenever i see it actually having worth for me. I returned my HTC flyer cause i really didn't need it and bought a fourth 22 inch tv and the sony google tv lol
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I meant I could careless about ICS.
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I meant I could careless about ICS.
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Oh haha I read wrong then
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thronnos said:
The dual-booting Android 5.0 Jelly Bean and Windows 8 machines will be able to hot-swap between the two platforms, the sources indicate, rather than demanding a reboot each time.
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Update: It’s worth remembering that Microsoft’s Windows 8 hardware requirements apparently block second OS installation on ARM-based PCs by users, thanks to a locked Secure Boot system, though it’s unclear whether OEMs are permitted to do so before the hardware leaves the factory. [Thanks Richard!]
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Although UEFI has the capability to load a second OS without a hardware reset, every thing I have read to date indicates that Microsoft will require manufacturers to ship their product with a locked bootloader to earn Windows certification.
As Windows 8 (a total redesign just for tablets) will be competing directly with Android, I think initially dual-boot won't be an official option until Microsoft has either made a substantial amount of money (off of Windows 8 licenses) or has secured a large enough market share.
It is worth noting, however, that the locked bootloader requirement may only apply to ARM-based devices; x86 hardware may be exempt. Intel and AMD are making huge strides in their mobile CPU departments, and as Android and Windows 8 can both run on x86, we will be seeing a decent amount of Atom/Z-01 powered tablets soon.