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Gingerbread 2.3

Figured id start a thread about it and people can chime in on what they know and what they want to know. Id like for someone to provide a link to what the up coming features are going to be and when its going to be released. I heard that its going to come out on monday the 6th and some of the features might include some more lime green and a market with music that can be purchased and also some sort of supported video chat. Any truth to this would be cool but I can't confirm anything. I know verizon usually comes out with some kind of sheet to tell users what will be included and I haven't found it yet so if anyone has information that'd be nice to share with the people here on xda.
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JonandRoid said:
Figured id start a thread about it and people can chime in on what they know and what they want to know. Id like for someone to provide a link to what the up coming features are going to be and when its going to be released. I heard that its going to come out on monday the 6th and some of the features might include some more lime green and a market with music that can be purchased and also some sort of supported video chat. Any truth to this would be cool but I can't confirm anything. I know verizon usually comes out with some kind of sheet to tell users what will be included and I haven't found it yet and I heard its coming out tomorrow so if anyone has information that'd be nice to share with the people on xda.
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I highly doubt it will be out tomorrow. And even if it is out tomorrow, it will be on the Nexus one. You should know by now all the updates come out to the Nexus phones first. Obviously it might not be too long after that for us to get it but we've gotta wait for Google's star child first.

kwheel596 said:
I highly doubt it will be out tomorrow. And even if it is out tomorrow, it will be on the Nexus one. You should know by now all the updates come out to the Nexus phones first. Obviously it might not be too long after that for us to get it but we've gotta wait for Google's star child first.
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yeah plus MOTO will want to make some crappy build with "ninja blur" which will take forever since they only care about the droid x so we'll have to wait a while unless you're rooted. Ports of stock 2.3 should probably be out sometime in the few weeks after it is released for el nexus uno

Not sure about sources and such but:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1930297/tablet-designer-claims-android-23-release

They announced its release this morning along with the Nexus S

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So I'm going to make a guess that getting Gingerbread onto the Droid2 is going to require a new kernel? In and of itself, Gingerbread uses a newer kernel than Froyo, and it seems like there are some significant improvements under the hood that may require kernel support. I suppose this could be verified by comparing the source code between the two releases.
So, barring someone hacking eFuse, I would guess that we aren't going to see Froyo until Motorola decides to release it. Hopefully I'm wrong here...

Cant wait till us Non nexus users get gingerbread
I saw somethig about a new nexus phone out on google, had gingerbread and gingerbread is out to the public now. Cant wait !!

Optimus_droid125 said:
Cant wait till us Non nexus users get gingerbread
I saw somethig about a new nexus phone out on google, had gingerbread and gingerbread is out to the public now. Cant wait !!
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Thats a bit incorrect. Its not out to the public yet.

Sweet, now we only have to wait half a year while moto hacks blur into it to get it.

kwheel596 said:
Thats a bit incorrect. Its not out to the public yet.
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Not to be a douche but yea it is.

I really don't think it'll take too long for Gingerbread to come out. We've been running 2.2 for a while now. Other phones don't even have Froyo yet. I know they probably have to make it Blur compatible, but I really don't think it'll take too long to get.

If you are rooted you can install the keyboard. http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/download-gingerbread-keyboard-for-rooted-devices/

HerroMoto said:
I really don't think it'll take too long for Gingerbread to come out. We've been running 2.2 for a while now. Other phones don't even have Froyo yet. I know they probably have to make it Blur compatible, but I really don't think it'll take too long to get.
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This is Motorola we are talking about. It took them months to release 2.2 for the original DROID and that runs stock Android, they barely had to do any work to get it working.

miketoasty said:
Not to be a douche but yea it is.
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Other than the SDK, I'm not aware of a running OS on any phones yet. Other than the few people in the world that already have a Nexus S.

The eris, hero, and a few others already have custom roms of gingerbread.
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mistermr said:
Sweet, now we only have to wait half a year while moto hacks blur into it to get it.
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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2. I'll just keep my ear to the ground here in hopes of seeing it pop up in a ROM; maybe Matt will display his absolute mod-godhood and port it into Unleashed 4.0!

stupidpopmediareference said:
I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2. I'll just keep my ear to the ground here in hopes of seeing it pop up in a ROM; maybe Matt will display his absolute mod-godhood and port it into Unleashed 4.0!
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Problem is that the new update adds support to things not changable withouth unlocking the bootloader so we are kind of screwed unless something has changed. Or Motorola actually does something worth while.

stupidpopmediareference said:
I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2.
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Lol. The OG Droid was updated all the way to Froyo. I'm pretty sure that the Droid2 will be updated.

It would be interesting if the OG Droid eventually gets updated past the Droid2 (by third parties, obviously).

Bootloader And Android 2.4

Hello,
I am planing on the Atrix for august when I will be in the US,
And I wonder- do you think the Bootloader will be cracked untill then?
Or Motorola Unlock it/ update to- 2.4?
Thank You,
Daniel

No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.

Diviance said:
No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
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I wanted to know as well...
Sigh, August is way to long...

wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...

they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick

Not really pessimistic, just neutral. We can make guesses but there is no way to be certain the loader will be broken or whether motorola will give up and unsign it. They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.

danielel said:
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
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Well thats sucks.
2.3 doesn't bring any important changes, and it does take time to make the update.
waste of time..
well it just means that if the devs here won't get to bootloader hacked the milestone story will be back.

oFUNGUSo said:
they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
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Ya what happened to them, that thread was booming with new posts every day and randomly it just stopped
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Diviance said:
They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
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Who cares about 2.3? 2.4 is what everyone's after...
GPU-accelerated UI and Browser
Built-in Gtalk video chat support
Multi-language browser support
And as Matias Duarte implied, all the Honeycomb design changes will be in 2.4
So who cares about 2.3? Not me. If the Atrix isn't released unsigned in Canada, and unless the XDA hacks it, I will be going for the Nexus S, and sticking with the Nexus line for the next few years...

Hard to speak about 2.4, as we don't have much of a clue about it. But loading custom kernels and the like is really making me re-think the decision about buying the Atrix...

Not to be a downer in this thread, but I wouldn't hold your breath for the unlocked bootloader, but it is nice that some fresh minds are going at it.
With that said, the devs for the D2 and DX have been able to set the users up with a good amount of customization.
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oh man I will be in Canada for 4 days...I hoped maybe it would be unlocked there.
well I guess I'll just have to check it later...
thank you every one

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992326
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?!
HE GOT A WAY TO PASS THE BOOTLOADER!!!!
HOPE HE WILL PUBLISH A WAY TO PASS IT SOON!!!

Its still being tested but DA G has had some success. No one else has posted anything else. I think the reason the bootloader thread has been quiet is because there in an irc were they can talk easier. We prob wont hear anythkng new until they have made some progress. I'm just glad we have the sbf file. That's a big step. Ill be happy if we can get motoblur removed.
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Bootloaders not actually unlocked

The Droid X, Milestone etc bootloaders were not actually unlocked. It was a hoax. http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-bootloader-still-encrypted-developer-comes-clean
I don't see why so many are willing to put up with this. There are plenty of other good android phones out there. As long as Motorola is going to fight this, there will never be a truly safe way to flash custom roms/kernels on droid phones, and devs simply aren't going to invest the time necessary to develop much.

::: Sigh :::

I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(

snwboard333 said:
I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.

disappointing, and we all know now not to ever trust nenolod again. thunderbolt here i come...

I think its horrible that some one thought it was funny that this happened. I know I am a no body to the android community but I for sure did an "unfollow" on twitter today.

QuarkGluonSoup said:
Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.

@nenolod purposefully lied to us. http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=l8sp.png&xsize=480&ysize=480
This is ridiculous. He cannot be doing this @&#( to us. I have lost all respect for this guy

And the thing is he said it was because people kept bothering him about the stuff. Well I never even heard of this guy until all this came out as im sure the case with most people, so why play this stupid "trick" on all of us?

Again, lets throw all of out locked droid x's at him. He shoukd be banned from android period
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1tonyj said:
That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
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I would recommend a Galaxy S. The bootloaders are unlocked and it now has a functional CM7 version. Plus, nothing beats the Super AMOLED screen.

Yeah this was pretty lame, got my hopes up, so I just got a dinc for now until I can afford a new phone or get my upgrade.
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I loved my Droid X when I first got it. Rooted it and had leaked Froyo running on it before OTA was available. After that there was not much more I could do with it. Bought a used Captivate on ebay. There are lots of custom ROMs and kernels to choose from. When September rolls around I hope there is a new Samsung phone available. No more Moto's for me.
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Galaxy S phones are very solid, with a few mods, it will fly. Plus the bootloader is unlocked, if u are coming from the x, you will greatly appreciate this. I just picked up a thunderbolt and so far, i love it. Its crazy fast, LTE or not, and having the 256mb of extra ram really makes for a phone that never slows down, no matter what you are doing. My only complaint other than the battery being undersized, as HTC ALWAYS does, is the adreno 205, people with the mytouch or G2 will tell you its good. When voming from a galaxy s the GPU is the only thing that i dont think is better.
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faber78 said:
and the next phone wont be locked.
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Yes, yes it will.

2.3 Root: Where we are.

First, this isn't a post about how to get root on 2.3. I know, at present, it is not possible. I know, I have tried pretty much every method imaginable
Anyway:
Where are we? I've heard rumors that S-off is coming from unreoked, alpharev x, team win will be coming "any day." Yeah, I'll believe it when I get it.
But, I think we are at the point where we are at HTC and Sprint's mercy. I mean, are we at the point where we are going to have to beg sprint and or HTC, to put S-OFF, or, somewhat more realistically, unlock the bootloader (or at least provide an RUU to downgrade?).
Anyway: Just discuss what you think about the plausibility of rooting the 2.3 release, and if we will ever see a free EVO. I am, sadly stuck on 2.3, as I didn't think about rooting, or know anything about it, until after I took the OTA .

Flame on! #johnnystorm

Is there a way to delete post instead of editing?

This isn't another one of those posts claiming to not be one of those posts about the locked bootloader that has been posted more than enough?
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COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
--http://twitter.com/
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......

I don't think we're stuck at Spint's/HTC's mercy. We're just further down the priority list of the devs. That's fine, its the nature of technology. As STG posted, Alpharev and unrevoked are posting something tonight. That could be a universal GB crack (hope!) or it could be a rooted 3d/Sensation. Either way, OG Evo is moving up on the priority list. Its an old phone, but hardly forgotten.

SGTSTEW75 said:
COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
--http://twitter.com/
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......
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Damn You, You beat me.
http://revolutionary.io/

I hope that it really is a root for gb. stock rom is killing me.
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HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.

nYdGeo said:
HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.
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If I recall HTC's statement correctly, they said the 3vo and the sensation would receive the updates first and then in September they would unlock phones that have recently been locked down...I believe the og evo is on that list.
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If that "Something Revolutionary" is root for Evo Gingerbread, I will be voluntary slave to the devs for five years... Okay, maybe not, but Paypal donation, without question.
You guys are doing truly heroic work.
I still think it is obnoxious that Android phones (which ironically, is the "open" platform), have become more locked down. I am glad to see that HTC and other companies are starting to realize that this stuff is important. I think that it is at least a big step forward. I do believe HTC will follow through on their promise, at least for future phones. I don't think that they'd go back on their word. I'm just optimistic like that .
This "later today" thing is killing me. See; Now I am going to be on that page hitting F5 every couple minutes for the rest of the day .
Yea, yeah, I know: No ETAs.
Best of luck to all

Verizon Xoom Soak Test

Motorola is beginning a soak test for the VZW Xoom. Anyone get the email from Motorola yet? You figure it has to be ICS.
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Wow, nobody gives a **** huh? Surprising! haha
It's about friggin' time the VZW Xoom gets ICS considering the WiFi-only version has had it since January.

Nah, I told Matt and the rest to suck it the last time they asked. I didn't pay a premium to test their ****. I'm sick of the 'ship now, treat them like crap, patch later and watch them kiss our feet' attitude these companies seem to have. I let them deal with the Better Business Bureau and the FTC. I'll test stuff for developers here but VZW, Moto and Google just need to stay out of the way as far as the Xoom is concerned.
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oldblue910 said:
Wow, nobody gives a **** huh? Surprising! haha
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haha, everyone probably already rooted and installed it.
such a shame it took so long. and now JB is coming up soon. Imagine how long (if) it will take VZ users to get it. Glad i went with the wifi version.

Yeah but even with the custom ROMs, they're all based on Honeycomb telephony code and honeycomb proprietaries that are hacked together to work. When ICS was first released, I remember the devs having a hell of a time getting 3/4G working on the Xoom because of that.
So theoretically, a VZW Xoom ICS update should make the custom ROMs better as well because they'll be using proprietaries specifically for ICS, plus new radios are always good. I just hope it doesn't include a new bootloader. If it does, that makes going back to Honeycomb (if so desired) a pain in the ass.

Why wait?
On the bright side, once ICS officially rolls out, the good devs could integrate the new proprietaries into their custom roms.
If tougher bootloaders are really the case, why wait for a tougher bootloader? Save yours and jump onto a custom rom!
(Note, I am not responsible for any possible damage my suggestions may cause)

yosterwp said:
On the bright side, once ICS officially rolls out, the good devs could integrate the new proprietaries into their custom roms.
If tougher bootloaders are really the case, why wait for a tougher bootloader? Save yours and jump onto a custom rom!
(Note, I am not responsible for any possible damage my suggestions may cause)
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No it wouldn't be a "tougher" bootloader. The Xoom is a Google Experience Device. It will have an unlockable bootloader. The problem would come in for people who use SBF files and RSD Lite to flash back to stock. It has nothing to do with lockable/unlockable. The Xoom will have an unlockable bootloader for its entire lifecycle.
I have no doubt the reason for the delay is two fold: 1. VZW's henious testing procedures and 2. The Xoom isn't a priority device for them anymore.

oldblue910 said:
No it wouldn't be a "tougher" bootloader. The Xoom is a Google Experience Device. It will have an unlockable bootloader. The problem would come in for people who use SBF files and RSD Lite to flash back to stock. It has nothing to do with lockable/unlockable. The Xoom will have an unlockable bootloader for its entire lifecycle.
I have no doubt the reason for the delay is two fold: 1. VZW's henious testing procedures and 2. The Xoom isn't a priority device for them anymore.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the Xoom being a GED for a moment, you are correct about the bootloader. Sometimes you take the Xoom being a GED w/. an unlockable/lockable bootloader for granted, thanks for that reminder!

I wish I could sign up for the soak test. I'm still running stock, unrooted honeycomb and would love the be a guinea pig.

I'm sorry about that. I shoulda given the pertinent info to someone like you, given Moto your MEID so that you could test it. The satisfaction of telling them to piss off was fleeting at best. Since I already kicked their butts through the proper channels, I should have at least let someone in this community get in. I just assumed they invited everyone who hadn't sued them yet. ;-)
If they ever decide to violate the restraining order (just kidding) and invite me again, I'll try to get someone in instead of me.
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I'm pretty excited. I'm a stock user, so I've been waiting a long time. And my tablet's no longer got a data plan either, so being stuck with Verizon while the Wi-Fi owners got ICS was pretty painful.

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Since I already kicked their butts through the proper channels
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Oh, I gotta hear this! ... So, the procedure of a single entity "kicking the butt" of several multibillion-dollar companies entails what, exactly?!

SlashGear is reporting that this is official ICS for us LTE folks. I guess rollout starts Monday.
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/06/motorola-xoom-updated-to-ice-cream-sandwich.html
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This news makes me happier than Roman Polanski at an all girls junior high school.

oldblue910 said:
This news makes me happier than Roman Polanski at an all girls junior high school.
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HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Or R. Kelly with a cheerleader stuck in his toilet.
We are both going to hell now

Draxin said:
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Or R. Kelly with a cheerleader stuck in his toilet.
We are both going to hell now
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Son I've been driving the bus to Hell since I was 15.
And now that I've had some more time to absorb this news, I'm now as happy as Jerry Sandusky at Chuck-E-Cheese.

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Oh, I gotta hear this! ... So, the procedure of a single entity "kicking the butt" of several multibillion-dollar companies entails what, exactly?!
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I can't say, exactly. Just know your rights as a consumer overall and in your state. There are proper channels and forms you can fill out and you usually get a response and some sort of resolution if you are somewhat creative or atleast patient. After the end of a conversation with Motorola Mobility's counsel, I can sheepishly admit that we've come to terms. I didn't get the meeting in Barcelona that I suggested (an inside joke for anyone who's seen an internal memo) but at least I'm back at zero which sadly counts as a victory (to me) against these guys.
I only had to have a couple of conversations with VZW's customer service to get them to be reasonable about the LTE business. I didn't bother with Google because I reached a fair solution with the other two offending parties. I'm not exactly sure what they could have for me anyway other than buy my Xoom back at a prorated price and get me out of my contract.
My penalty for jumping on new sexy hardware that was kind of a lopsided deal was having to research the process for filing small claims cases, consumer protection agencies, filing out forms and patiently explaining the actual issue and outlining what remedies you're hoping for to stranger after stranger. It helps if you're not trying to get a bunch of free stuff. Will I buy anything from VZW or Motorola again? Maybe, because they eventually came through for me but I hate paperwork so it's going to have be perfect out of the box or cheap.
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oldblue910 said:
Son I've been driving the bus to Hell since I was 15.
And now that I've had some more time to absorb this news, I'm now as happy as Jerry Sandusky at Chuck-E-Cheese.
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How about happier than Fatty Arbuckle at a sorority house?

Draxin said:
How about happier than Fatty Arbuckle at a sorority house?
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Fatty Arbuckle references would probably be lost on most under 60, but I got it. hahahahaha

oldblue910 said:
Fatty Arbuckle references would probably be lost on most under 60, but I got it. hahahahaha
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Well, I am 31 so I suggest "most" open a book.... Lindsay Lohan at Oktoberfest (for most that means lots of beer and "sausage")