The Droid X, Milestone etc bootloaders were not actually unlocked. It was a hoax. http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-bootloader-still-encrypted-developer-comes-clean
I don't see why so many are willing to put up with this. There are plenty of other good android phones out there. As long as Motorola is going to fight this, there will never be a truly safe way to flash custom roms/kernels on droid phones, and devs simply aren't going to invest the time necessary to develop much.
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I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
disappointing, and we all know now not to ever trust nenolod again. thunderbolt here i come...
I think its horrible that some one thought it was funny that this happened. I know I am a no body to the android community but I for sure did an "unfollow" on twitter today.
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
@nenolod purposefully lied to us. http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=l8sp.png&xsize=480&ysize=480
This is ridiculous. He cannot be doing this @&#( to us. I have lost all respect for this guy
And the thing is he said it was because people kept bothering him about the stuff. Well I never even heard of this guy until all this came out as im sure the case with most people, so why play this stupid "trick" on all of us?
Again, lets throw all of out locked droid x's at him. He shoukd be banned from android period
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
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I would recommend a Galaxy S. The bootloaders are unlocked and it now has a functional CM7 version. Plus, nothing beats the Super AMOLED screen.
Yeah this was pretty lame, got my hopes up, so I just got a dinc for now until I can afford a new phone or get my upgrade.
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I loved my Droid X when I first got it. Rooted it and had leaked Froyo running on it before OTA was available. After that there was not much more I could do with it. Bought a used Captivate on ebay. There are lots of custom ROMs and kernels to choose from. When September rolls around I hope there is a new Samsung phone available. No more Moto's for me.
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Galaxy S phones are very solid, with a few mods, it will fly. Plus the bootloader is unlocked, if u are coming from the x, you will greatly appreciate this. I just picked up a thunderbolt and so far, i love it. Its crazy fast, LTE or not, and having the 256mb of extra ram really makes for a phone that never slows down, no matter what you are doing. My only complaint other than the battery being undersized, as HTC ALWAYS does, is the adreno 205, people with the mytouch or G2 will tell you its good. When voming from a galaxy s the GPU is the only thing that i dont think is better.
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and the next phone wont be locked.
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Yes, yes it will.
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i don't even have a g2 and in no way intend to disrespect any of the hard working devs. but, how many people are pissed off that there is no root yet? not pissed at the devs, but at the measures htc has taken to lock us out. maybe it really is a bug in the chip. what if it never gets rooted? how many people would be extremely mad and sell their g2? like i stated, i don't even own one,but have been into the scene for quite a few years. so i read the g2 thinktank everyday. part of me is always hoping i'll see that it was permanently rooted. but it just doesn't look good. i check everyday because i'll eventually be upgrading my phone soon. and i'd like to rest assured that if these measures are taken on future phones, that the devs will know how to hack it sooner.
anyone think it's never gonna happen? i hope it does. i'm just not used to seeing this being such a huge problem.
It will happen. Give it time. The world was not built in a day.
The phone is still very good even though it isn't rooted yet, and will become a better phone when it is.
I'm pretty much like you, I check the root thread multiple times a day. I really respect those guys.
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i don't even have a g2 and in no way intend to disrespect any of the hard working devs. but, how many people are pissed off that there is no root yet? not pissed at the devs, but at the measures htc has taken to lock us out. maybe it really is a bug in the chip. what if it never gets rooted? how many people would be extremely mad and sell their g2? like i stated, i don't even own one,but have been into the scene for quite a few years. so i read the g2 thinktank everyday. part of me is always hoping i'll see that it was permanently rooted. but it just doesn't look good. i check everyday because i'll eventually be upgrading my phone soon. and i'd like to rest assured that if these measures are taken on future phones, that the devs will know how to hack it sooner.
anyone think it's never gonna happen? i hope it does. i'm just not used to seeing this being such a huge problem.
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People said this same thing about the cat and mouse games on the iPhones, Droid X, etc... See how long those lasted? A few weeks? A few months?
History has shown, given the time and determination, there is no consumer cell phone that cannot be hacked.
I hate that they lock us out of our devices, but they are appliances. This happens in the business world all the time. They do it to 'improve' the device by not allowing you to muff it up.
Either way, we will crack the protection mechanisms, or find overflow exploits, etc... to make it happen.
give it time. anything and everything can be cracked with enough time. plus temp root via visionary works great. We truly only need prem root for custom roms and themes
Yea... look at the ps3 lol
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Yea... look at the ps3 lol
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bad example because that took extremely long.
nah, root on this phone is impossible, it just wont happen. all devs should just give up and everyone sell you g2's --note the sarcasm, lifes full of it --
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People said this same thing about the cat and mouse games on the iPhones, Droid X, etc... See how long those lasted? A few weeks? A few months?
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AFAIK, to date, the Droid X's recovery chip that prevents custom roms has yet to be defeated. Poor example there, I think.
True. The Droid X still can not load custom roms. I'm thinking we're probably going to be the same way. But there's no fun without Cyanogens mods. Ughhhh
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True. The Droid X still can not load custom roms. I'm thinking we're probably going to be the same way. But there's no fun without Cyanogens mods. Ughhhh
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Honestly, 80% of what CyanogenMod brings (aside from bugfixes and optimizations) can be accomplished with full root access to the system.
I think at least some of the Devs see this as a direct challenge to their authority. This is the G2 after all. Root will happen. Droid X comparison is apples and oranges, this is the sequel to the first android device ever! This is where we make our stand or all is lost.
Having stated the above I think HTC, G, and maybe even T-mo are watching this device. Maybe its just to slow down the Devs long enough to push 3.0 . G may try with 3.0 to stop Android fragmentation by offering a huge leap forward. I mean the G1 to G2 jump is mind blowing to me and it seems like a gift to us early adoptors of Android, I want root but the G2 is stunning to me even stock. Just thinking outloud.
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AFAIK, to date, the Droid X's recovery chip that prevents custom roms has yet to be defeated. Poor example there, I think.
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True. The Droid X still can not load custom roms. I'm thinking we're probably going to be the same way. But there's no fun without Cyanogens mods. Ughhhh
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Not true... the chip was defeated.
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/first-droid-x-custom-rom-released-with-installation-instructions/
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/the-droid-x-runs-a-custom-rom-see-for-yourself/
http://www.androidcentral.com/sapphire-custom-rom-running-droid-x
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/08/30...ready-for-manual-install-here’s-how-to-do-it/
We'll get root eventually. Its only a matter of time.
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People are seriously tripping here. If Android can be ported to the HD2 of all devices, then the G2 can get rooted. Even if it doesn't big deal, it may just be me, but this is the first time I've been satisfied with a phones performance on the stock rom. Its faster and more consistent than any phone I've owned.
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Not true... the chip was defeated.
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/first-droid-x-custom-rom-released-with-installation-instructions/
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/the-droid-x-runs-a-custom-rom-see-for-yourself/
http://www.androidcentral.com/sapphire-custom-rom-running-droid-x
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/08/30...ready-for-manual-install-here’s-how-to-do-it/
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Ahh, my bad. Thank you, I don't think I ever heard this news. Must have been pretty hush-hush stuff.
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People are seriously tripping here. If Android can be ported to the HD2 of all devices, then the G2 can get rooted. Even if it doesn't big deal, it may just be me, but this is the first time I've been satisfied with a phones performance on the stock rom. Its faster and more consistent than any phone I've owned.
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This is the truth. I sat and thought hard about what really made me put CM6 on my G1 .. i came to the conclusion that my g1 just wasnt up to par with all of the newer androids. but now i am completely happy with my G2 even on stock. therefore i dont mind waiting for root or if it even happens.
I'm nervous.
Any Cooks/Dev's working on a build of the sdk for the droid/droid2/droidx....?
just curious.
If I have read correctly around the net, I think devs need to wait until Motorola releases their own version of Gingerbread for the D2 and DX since they use Blur. Could be different for the Droid 1 though since its stock.
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If I have read correctly around the net, I think devs need to wait until Motorola releases their own version of Gingerbread for the D2 and DX since they use Blur. Could be different for the Droid 1 though since its stock.
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Exactly the reason why I plan on switching to the samsung fascinate. This locked bootloader mess is making the droid2 root experience suck bad. While other phones get roms as soon as the freakin sdk is released for gingerbread, we are stuck waiting on moto bcuz we are locked down and unable to get ealry gb roms.
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Real funny how you want to switch to a fascinate because of Motorola being slow on rom updates. The sgs fascinate is still in 2.1 eclair bro. If you want most upto date than stay away from Sammy. That's why I'm replacing my fascinate tomorrow.
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I just wish motorola would confirm which phones are going to get 2.3. Samsung and lg have announced some phones are going to get it, and I think htc has too I believe. I assume the d2 will get it, I don't know why it wouldn't. I'm just anxious cause of my luck with phones I picked the eris first and of course it didn't see froyo until the devs made it.
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I just wish motorola would confirm which phones are going to get 2.3. Samsung and lg have announced some phones are going to get it, and I think htc has too I believe. I assume the d2 will get it, I don't know why it wouldn't. I'm just anxious cause of my luck with phones I picked the eris first and of course it didn't see froyo until the devs made it.
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Funny thing is..we don't know which D2 is going to get it. I have the original one but they just came out with the Global version...
Do you really think they might only release it for Global and leave the original D2 in the dust?
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Do you really think they might only release it for Global and leave the original D2 in the dust?
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Doubt it, they are almost identical and would release it shortly after one another
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Yeah I mean its not like the d2 has met its end life yet either
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Looks like verizon will be announcing which phones are getting 2.3
http://androidcommunity.com/gingerbread-being-assessed-on-verizon-phones-20101215/
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Real funny how you want to switch to a fascinate because of Motorola being slow on rom updates. The sgs fascinate is still in 2.1 eclair bro. If you want most upto date than stay away from Sammy. That's why I'm replacing my fascinate tomorrow.
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I would agree with you normally but this is XDA.. the vast majority of people here are looking to customize their phones, and are not like the general public. I'd rather a fully unlocked bootloader with zero OEM support than lots of OEM support and a completely locked down system. That is one of the main reasons android is so much better than the iphone.. but here i am feeling stupid with locked phone. Although, the most locked down android is nowhere near as restrictive as a fruit device, but stil...
Droid X is sold, bought a fascinate.
Tired of lacking full root, needing SBF's, fake AOSP, and inability to use 3rd party kernels. This all really destroyed what I considered the best phone ever released.
Great job on the eFuse Motorola! I'll never buy another phone again unless it's fully rooted first.
hopefully you also posted this on moto's own DX forums where it would have more desirable impact for you
Haha I six the same. The fascinate has shoddy sour e, great devs abd who knows when it will get froyo let alone gingerbfead. I am a admin in the fascinate irc chat and bc la k of true source, la k of froyo and lots of bugs im back with my x and my dinc( can't decide ) I love miui on the dinc. Trust me fas inats has awesome harware. You are going to regret that decision. I would rather have a lo led bootmoaxer than horse shot software u can't do anything with.
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I definitely agree with you protesting with your wallet, but telling us won't help as much as you sending them an email and posting in there forums.
I miss my Dinc. The X is nice, but man I am missing full root myself. Although, I am sure something better is around the corner. I will hold out.
yeah i had a fascinate for 1 day (basically got it for a cheap price on craigslist so i could either sell or trade for an x) that fascinate was quick but boy that ui sucks. no google? thats even more dumb. i love my x. i had one for a couple months and sold it thinking i was gonna break it in a rough environment i started working in, but now i have another one and won't change til something way better comes out... HTC Merge maybe???
I don't have these problems. Why you might ask well im not rooted I use the phone for what it does and that's a lot. Not a fan of rooting. I see to baby problems with that stuff. I realy on my phone to work when I need it to. Just my two cents. I had the vibrant before this and its the worst phone i've ever had sanding does not take care if there phones. When will it get 2.2? Its six months behind most phones. You are getting rid of one of the best phones out because you can't root it like you want must be nice to mess with a phone then decide to just get something else. I can only afford to buy one phone so I don't mess with it. I mess this phone up I will then be using a very old non smart phone for my new phone. Now I know that there are really cool things that a rooted phone can do but if its not broken don't fix it. Unfortunately im in the minority with this.
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Threads like these, serve no real purpose.
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Casshern said:
Threads like these, serve no real purpose.
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Like your post.
Thanks to everyone else's feedback. Although, "ksizzle9" I didn't understand anything you said; that wasn't English, no idea what it was tbh.
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Like your post.
Thanks to everyone else's feedback. Although, "ksizzle9" I didn't understand anything you said; that wasn't English, no idea what it was tbh.
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This made me laugh. I thought the exact same thing. Maybe he was trying to use Swype for the first time or something?
I didn't like my X in the beginning before it was rooted. I hated the blur except for a few apps (Alarm, Camera, etc.), but now that I'm rooted and running Fission I'm more than happy with it.
i had a droidx, and even witht the locked bootloader there was allot fo support. what makes this phone so diffrent? hardley any devs on it..
Verizon has had android much longer than att. The atrix is the second good android phone. It will take some time to build a community. The main reason the captivate has a big community is because there were so many variants...
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Verizon has had android much longer than att. The atrix is the second good android phone. It will take some time to build a community. The main reason the captivate has a big community is because there were so many variants...
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that is a very good point. makes sense...
is the atrix due to be released to any other carriers?
dvigue said:
that is a very good point. makes sense...
is the atrix due to be released to any other carriers?
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Rumors say Sprint may get the Atrix and Xoom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998154
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i hope soo. with the loss of DG is if so quiet in here....such a great phone with nothing going on. I appreciate Kenneths work so much. i hope we get some more devs like him soon...
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i hope soo. with the loss of DG is if so quiet in here....such a great phone with nothing going on. I appreciate Kenneths work so much. i hope we get some more devs like him soon...
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Yes, I agree, but this might shed some light as to why we aren't getting any 'more' help.. as I'm sure this phone would rock with the vast experience of those devs from mydroidworld, p3, tbh, etc.. that's been working on a phone with a locked bootloader..
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-hacks/6511-moto-atrix-4g.html
I too had a DX with a lock bootloader, and that was rooted within a day every time an update came out, whether it was from VZ or Moto.. sigh..
Those that have stuck it out and believed...our day is finally here!! The DEVS that stayed determined and optimistic, you guys are REAL DEVS!! To those who jumped ship and talked smack...LOL!! ATRIX rules!!
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Ummm...what?? You couldn't have posted this in the already present bootloader unlock thread, where everyone else is giving props?
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I think posting this is great! I too would like to give my appreciation to those who stuck all the way with the Atrix! We finally have a device whose potential just got even better! Let the cooking begin!
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAA
GS2 can eat my nuts.
tegra all the way baby
i too am pleased with the development, developers and you know what, at this point i'm even happy for this waste of a thread.
Good job.
Funny thing is I just got my atrix 2 days ago. Lucky timing for me
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Anthonok said:
Funny thing is I just got my atrix 2 days ago. Lucky timing for me
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I ordered mine last week too also went with the AT&T version over AUS/international version.
Now it's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubblegum.
^^
Stickin it out *****asss
ATRIX owner since march 2nd.
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Ditched my Atrix when the Infuse came out, and I couldn't be happier. In my opinion, the infuse is a far better phone. However, my decision had nothing to do with the locked bootloader on the Atrix. Just my own preferences. I haven't even flashed the Infuse yet. Other than root, it's stock. But it is nice to see you guys finally getting some moto-luv. The co-worker that has my Atrix will love this.
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Ditched my Atrix when the Infuse came out, and I couldn't be happier. In my opinion, the infuse is a far better phone. However, my decision had nothing to do with the locked bootloader on the Atrix. Just my own preferences. I haven't even flashed the Infuse yet. Other than root, it's stock. But it is nice to see you guys finally getting some moto-luv. The co-worker that has my Atrix will love this.
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Isn't the infuse exactly the same? And doesn't it have a locked bootloader as well?
Infuse is single core I believe and has a 4.5inch screen.
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Isn't the infuse exactly the same? And doesn't it have a locked bootloader as well?
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I'll admit it. I got impatient with the Atrix and switched to iPhone 4 within my 30 day return policy.
Mostly the reason I switched is because of Motoblur. First Motorola Android phone purchased. Yeah, I used Launcher Pro but it didn't "smooth" enough.
Now I'm regretting the switch since I saw the video on how to unlock the bootloader. I liked using differents ROMs. I change like I change socks. Once a week.