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Incredible got 2.2 OTA Today

I just find it comical that the Droid X was hyped up to come with 2.2 and then it launches with 2.1, which wasn't a big deal...
However now as a slap in the face.. The droid1 got froyo... The droid 2 has froyo.. Now the droid incredible also has froyo.. And the X is left alone by itself in 2.1 land.. Any comments?
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I'm not really worried about it as I (and probably most of us) already have froyo...even if it isn't OTA

Yeah its more or less just showing where DroidX owners stand on verizons priority list, that's last
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My brain can't handle the overload of ignorance that this thread is producing.........

elemeno0pee said:
My brain can't handle the overload of ignorance that this thread is producing.........
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wtf is ignorant about this threat besides the bull**** spewing from your mouth?

inzandity said:
wtf is ignorant about this threat besides the bull**** spewing from your mouth?
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hahaha, I agree with you there...
And I agree with the OP.... I think the Droid X should have gotten the update by now also... being the flagship phone and all.
Anyways, we shall wait and see..

Joe92T said:
I just find it comical that the Droid X was hyped up to come with 2.2 and then it launches with 2.1, which wasn't a big deal...
However now as a slap in the face.. The droid1 got froyo... The droid 2 has froyo.. Now the droid incredible also has froyo.. And the X is left alone by itself in 2.1 land.. Any comments?
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My comment is its BS!! i know its potentially just a week or 2 away (maybe) but there is no reason why it should be the last freaken droid to get the update. This is suppose to be the daddy of all phones. If anything it should have been the 1st. Sorry just impatient because i want it but dont want to mess with leaked version that has to be manually installed. Who knows if its even the final version.

I'm going to list the phones in order of release with their Froyo Status.
Droid - Froyo'd first
Droid Incredible - Froyo'd second
Droid X - FroyoLeak, no OTA
Droid 2 - Released Froyo'd
It's only logical that X is last. Of course, it's not Verizon's fault. It's technically Motorola's, as they are the ones providing support for the phones they themselves released... But with the leaked Froyo out, it's only a matter of time before the OTA update's out. Just give it time, ok?

silversonic1 said:
It's only logical that X is last. Of course, it's not Verizon's fault. It's technically Motorola's, as they are the ones providing support for the phones they themselves released... But with the leaked Froyo out, it's only a matter of time before the OTA update's out. Just give it time, ok?
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It's most likely Moto's fault. Taking their time, etc. I'm just hopeful they'll release it soon. I'm laying off upgrading to the leak because I did the leak on my eris and got screwed.

silversonic1 said:
I'm going to list the phones in order of release with their Froyo Status.
Droid - Froyo'd first
Droid Incredible - Froyo'd second
Droid X - FroyoLeak, no OTA
Droid 2 - Released Froyo'd
It's only logical that X is last. Of course, it's not Verizon's fault. It's technically Motorola's, as they are the ones providing support for the phones they themselves released... But with the leaked Froyo out, it's only a matter of time before the OTA update's out. Just give it time, ok?
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+1 as well. Whoever said this means the X is last on VZW's list of importance has no clue...vzw has nothing to do with it. Motorola does.
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the dx is getting froyo between early/mid september . which is around the corner now, only if they dont delay it again...

Ready for update. Will we be able to root the stock 2.2 like what they r doin with the EVO?
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It could actually be verizon holding it up. There is a very exhaustive testing process that all phones have to go through to be allowed on the vzw network. Most of the time the long lead is the first time through testing withdrawn updates taking much less testing and therefore much less time. However, if verizon found some issue that they don't want to allow on their network they could require motorola to go back, fix it, and get back in line to get the testing performed. Of course, some times verizon waves their hands let's the phone go through with minimal testing. We really can't know.
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berndtjj said:
It could actually be verizon holding it up. There is a very exhaustive testing process that all phones have to go through to be allowed on the vzw network. Most of the time the long lead is the first time through testing withdrawn updates taking much less testing and therefore much less time. However, if verizon found some issue that they don't want to allow on their network they could require motorola to go back, fix it, and get back in line to get the testing performed. Of course, some times verizon waves their hands let's the phone go through with minimal testing. We really can't know.
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Good point. But still..that doesn't portend that the X is low on verizon's priorities..quite the opposite I think.

I think there are tons more droids than droidx phones in use. The lack of flash in the recent froyo release for the droid seemed to have caught more of motorola and verizons attention since they rolled out /are rolling out an update in short order.
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Gingerbread 2.3

Figured id start a thread about it and people can chime in on what they know and what they want to know. Id like for someone to provide a link to what the up coming features are going to be and when its going to be released. I heard that its going to come out on monday the 6th and some of the features might include some more lime green and a market with music that can be purchased and also some sort of supported video chat. Any truth to this would be cool but I can't confirm anything. I know verizon usually comes out with some kind of sheet to tell users what will be included and I haven't found it yet so if anyone has information that'd be nice to share with the people here on xda.
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JonandRoid said:
Figured id start a thread about it and people can chime in on what they know and what they want to know. Id like for someone to provide a link to what the up coming features are going to be and when its going to be released. I heard that its going to come out on monday the 6th and some of the features might include some more lime green and a market with music that can be purchased and also some sort of supported video chat. Any truth to this would be cool but I can't confirm anything. I know verizon usually comes out with some kind of sheet to tell users what will be included and I haven't found it yet and I heard its coming out tomorrow so if anyone has information that'd be nice to share with the people on xda.
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I highly doubt it will be out tomorrow. And even if it is out tomorrow, it will be on the Nexus one. You should know by now all the updates come out to the Nexus phones first. Obviously it might not be too long after that for us to get it but we've gotta wait for Google's star child first.

kwheel596 said:
I highly doubt it will be out tomorrow. And even if it is out tomorrow, it will be on the Nexus one. You should know by now all the updates come out to the Nexus phones first. Obviously it might not be too long after that for us to get it but we've gotta wait for Google's star child first.
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yeah plus MOTO will want to make some crappy build with "ninja blur" which will take forever since they only care about the droid x so we'll have to wait a while unless you're rooted. Ports of stock 2.3 should probably be out sometime in the few weeks after it is released for el nexus uno

Not sure about sources and such but:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1930297/tablet-designer-claims-android-23-release

They announced its release this morning along with the Nexus S

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So I'm going to make a guess that getting Gingerbread onto the Droid2 is going to require a new kernel? In and of itself, Gingerbread uses a newer kernel than Froyo, and it seems like there are some significant improvements under the hood that may require kernel support. I suppose this could be verified by comparing the source code between the two releases.
So, barring someone hacking eFuse, I would guess that we aren't going to see Froyo until Motorola decides to release it. Hopefully I'm wrong here...

Cant wait till us Non nexus users get gingerbread
I saw somethig about a new nexus phone out on google, had gingerbread and gingerbread is out to the public now. Cant wait !!

Optimus_droid125 said:
Cant wait till us Non nexus users get gingerbread
I saw somethig about a new nexus phone out on google, had gingerbread and gingerbread is out to the public now. Cant wait !!
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Thats a bit incorrect. Its not out to the public yet.

Sweet, now we only have to wait half a year while moto hacks blur into it to get it.

kwheel596 said:
Thats a bit incorrect. Its not out to the public yet.
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Not to be a douche but yea it is.

I really don't think it'll take too long for Gingerbread to come out. We've been running 2.2 for a while now. Other phones don't even have Froyo yet. I know they probably have to make it Blur compatible, but I really don't think it'll take too long to get.

If you are rooted you can install the keyboard. http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/download-gingerbread-keyboard-for-rooted-devices/

HerroMoto said:
I really don't think it'll take too long for Gingerbread to come out. We've been running 2.2 for a while now. Other phones don't even have Froyo yet. I know they probably have to make it Blur compatible, but I really don't think it'll take too long to get.
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This is Motorola we are talking about. It took them months to release 2.2 for the original DROID and that runs stock Android, they barely had to do any work to get it working.

miketoasty said:
Not to be a douche but yea it is.
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Other than the SDK, I'm not aware of a running OS on any phones yet. Other than the few people in the world that already have a Nexus S.

The eris, hero, and a few others already have custom roms of gingerbread.
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mistermr said:
Sweet, now we only have to wait half a year while moto hacks blur into it to get it.
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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2. I'll just keep my ear to the ground here in hopes of seeing it pop up in a ROM; maybe Matt will display his absolute mod-godhood and port it into Unleashed 4.0!

stupidpopmediareference said:
I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2. I'll just keep my ear to the ground here in hopes of seeing it pop up in a ROM; maybe Matt will display his absolute mod-godhood and port it into Unleashed 4.0!
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Problem is that the new update adds support to things not changable withouth unlocking the bootloader so we are kind of screwed unless something has changed. Or Motorola actually does something worth while.

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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2.
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Lol. The OG Droid was updated all the way to Froyo. I'm pretty sure that the Droid2 will be updated.

It would be interesting if the OG Droid eventually gets updated past the Droid2 (by third parties, obviously).

Bootloaders not actually unlocked

The Droid X, Milestone etc bootloaders were not actually unlocked. It was a hoax. http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-bootloader-still-encrypted-developer-comes-clean
I don't see why so many are willing to put up with this. There are plenty of other good android phones out there. As long as Motorola is going to fight this, there will never be a truly safe way to flash custom roms/kernels on droid phones, and devs simply aren't going to invest the time necessary to develop much.

::: Sigh :::

I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(

snwboard333 said:
I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.

disappointing, and we all know now not to ever trust nenolod again. thunderbolt here i come...

I think its horrible that some one thought it was funny that this happened. I know I am a no body to the android community but I for sure did an "unfollow" on twitter today.

QuarkGluonSoup said:
Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.

@nenolod purposefully lied to us. http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=l8sp.png&xsize=480&ysize=480
This is ridiculous. He cannot be doing this @&#( to us. I have lost all respect for this guy

And the thing is he said it was because people kept bothering him about the stuff. Well I never even heard of this guy until all this came out as im sure the case with most people, so why play this stupid "trick" on all of us?

Again, lets throw all of out locked droid x's at him. He shoukd be banned from android period
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1tonyj said:
That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
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I would recommend a Galaxy S. The bootloaders are unlocked and it now has a functional CM7 version. Plus, nothing beats the Super AMOLED screen.

Yeah this was pretty lame, got my hopes up, so I just got a dinc for now until I can afford a new phone or get my upgrade.
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I loved my Droid X when I first got it. Rooted it and had leaked Froyo running on it before OTA was available. After that there was not much more I could do with it. Bought a used Captivate on ebay. There are lots of custom ROMs and kernels to choose from. When September rolls around I hope there is a new Samsung phone available. No more Moto's for me.
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Galaxy S phones are very solid, with a few mods, it will fly. Plus the bootloader is unlocked, if u are coming from the x, you will greatly appreciate this. I just picked up a thunderbolt and so far, i love it. Its crazy fast, LTE or not, and having the 256mb of extra ram really makes for a phone that never slows down, no matter what you are doing. My only complaint other than the battery being undersized, as HTC ALWAYS does, is the adreno 205, people with the mytouch or G2 will tell you its good. When voming from a galaxy s the GPU is the only thing that i dont think is better.
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faber78 said:
and the next phone wont be locked.
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Yes, yes it will.

galaxy s gets gingerbread before atrix?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?

True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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Magic_Bunny said:
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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motorola is getting beta testers for gingerbread? did they put up a sign up like for the update or just announce it?

Motor is asking for beta testers? If so...then GB will be released
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3

blaque72 said:
Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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it makes sense that the phone that's been out for a year gets it first....
since google released the 2.3 source code, the company has been doing nothing but preparing an update most likely. motorola however, needed to iron out kinks in their initial 2.2 release before they can consider developing a 2.3 OS, and then allowing carriers to modify it to your liking.
obviously you didn't think about what has to be done to come up with a polished 2.3 update before it can be released as an official OTA update. you really can't fault motorola for this not being out yet. it takes a lot of time, testing, and effort to release a finished product.

Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....

Silent8Strike said:
Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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well, the problem is that they probably started dev for the atrix's OS before 2.3 was released, so it would have been even more work, and probably would have caused delays in their release of the phone if they had shipped it with 2.3
I know locked bootloader is a massive drag for 3rd party dev, but you really can't fault moto for any decisions they've made with this phone other than that.

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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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slimslim said:
I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.

neotekz said:
not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...

bigb252 said:
+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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My fault!!!! Sorry guys!!!
I didn't read the whole post from moto forum. At the end of that post there is an edit, that says it was about the 1.5.7 update we already got! My mistake, my fault, sorry
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ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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actually you're not skipping honeycomb....
honeycomb is a totally different series in Android OS, tablet-specific series to be precise (3.0)
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4

ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
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So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.

Paschalis said:
Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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link please?

neotekz said:
ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
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i believe that it has some modicum of support for dual core, but is not completely optimized for it as 2.4 will be.
that's just my understanding, if someone could provide a link to prove me wrong then i'd freely accept it.

Gingerbread as currently released for SGS has some glitches but guess what Samsung just released the source code! So we should be seeing fixes and tricked out kernels/ROMS/system apps very soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12992329&posted=1#post12992329

bigb252 said:
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I saw the signup sheet too. It never hurts to waste a little time each day looking through these forums. I swear I saw a link for it. I looked at it and saw some sign up thingy on Motorola's website.

January 2012 SOAK Test for Atrix

Did anyone else get this email. In it the Atrix 4g was specifically mentioned for SOAK test registration for January 2012.

Got it about 10 min ago. I hope its ICS!
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So I get this and registered...awaiting response.....now should I flash fruitcake or try to flash the SBF? Wondering what will get me the least likely hood of hard bricking my phone.

Hmm.
Is that meen that we will get ICS soon?

island-guy said:
So I get this and registered...awaiting response.....now should I flash fruitcake or try to flash the SBF? Wondering what will get me the least likely hood of hard bricking my phone.
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I am wondering the same thing...should I get back on stock?

I think it is just 2.3.7

I got it too, too little too late from moto for me, not a chance in hell it's ics but it's good they haven't forgotten about the phone
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what's SOAK Test???

I doubt moto would waste time doing a soak test for a higher version of gingerbread -- especially since they've got a whole host of other phones for which they need to provide support. Rejoice people, this is ICS!!
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IUH1991 said:
I doubt moto would waste time doing a soak test for a higher version of gingerbread -- especially since they've got a whole host of other phones for which they need to provide support. Rejoice people, this is ICS!!
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It's hard to believe but you have a good point... I'm so disappointed with Motorola that I don't doubt it could be a fail update to fix something that just make our life a little worse (like ripping off root/HDMI mirroring and stuff)
This will be my last Motorola phone for sure.
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fernandoavc said:
It's hard to believe but you have a good point... I'm so disappointed with Motorola that I don't doubt it could be a fail update to fix something that just make our life a little worse (like ripping off root/HDMI mirroring and stuff)
This will be my last Motorola phone for sure.
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I feel the same way. However, if this is ICS, I may reconsider my stance
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I'm not bothering this time around (deleted my Blur backup by mistake).
If it is ICS, I'll just wait till the fine folks in development get CM9 working right.

MacAlert said:
I'm not bothering this time around (deleted my Blur backup by mistake).
If it is ICS, I'll just wait till the fine folks in development get CM9 working right.
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+1
And this won't be my last Moto phone for sure. Imo, Moto makes the best looking phones. If you want updates - pick a Moto phone that has the biggest developer community.
Community ROMs ALWAYS beat the official crap that Motorola releases.

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I'm not bothering this time around (deleted my Blur backup by mistake).
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if it is it'll at least mean we can enjoy a blur free ics 100% working rom a lot quicker. but i just refuse to believe that the atrix is going to be the 2nd ics phone behind gnex.

Got it this morning around 2am central time. Signed up and hoping its ICS.
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I joined how I get approved will this mean I get ICS? Also what will happen to my root status?

I think this will be exciting to see how the new motoblur looks, they have said that they want to make less phones and more support for phones, and with google behind them and the pressure on from samsung, my eyes and ears are looking to moto to put up a fight. another point is that google is hard on about using the ICS halo theme and google owns moto, maybe the order came from the top, ICS with less blur out faster please.

xploited said:
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And this won't be my last Moto phone for sure. Imo, Moto makes the best looking phones. If you want updates - pick a Moto phone that has the biggest developer community.
Community ROMs ALWAYS beat the official crap that Motorola releases.
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I've no doubt that the community makes the difference I also saw someone else post saying that even if Motorola release a ICS he will still use CM9 instead... I just feel abandoned by Motorola in a lot of ways such improvements in the entertainment center, no FM radio (no subtitles) and other stuffs that they never ever reply.. They could at least provide the libs as they will not care....
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The only reason I use moto blur roms is because I really like the lapdock, that's why am I really hoping that they bring out an ics ROM.

Who the hell wants Blur ICS?
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