galaxy s gets gingerbread before atrix? - Atrix 4G General

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?

True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.

neotekz said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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Magic_Bunny said:
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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motorola is getting beta testers for gingerbread? did they put up a sign up like for the update or just announce it?

Motor is asking for beta testers? If so...then GB will be released
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3

blaque72 said:
Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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it makes sense that the phone that's been out for a year gets it first....
since google released the 2.3 source code, the company has been doing nothing but preparing an update most likely. motorola however, needed to iron out kinks in their initial 2.2 release before they can consider developing a 2.3 OS, and then allowing carriers to modify it to your liking.
obviously you didn't think about what has to be done to come up with a polished 2.3 update before it can be released as an official OTA update. you really can't fault motorola for this not being out yet. it takes a lot of time, testing, and effort to release a finished product.

Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....

Silent8Strike said:
Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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well, the problem is that they probably started dev for the atrix's OS before 2.3 was released, so it would have been even more work, and probably would have caused delays in their release of the phone if they had shipped it with 2.3
I know locked bootloader is a massive drag for 3rd party dev, but you really can't fault moto for any decisions they've made with this phone other than that.

drock212 said:
Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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slimslim said:
I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.

neotekz said:
not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...

bigb252 said:
+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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My fault!!!! Sorry guys!!!
I didn't read the whole post from moto forum. At the end of that post there is an edit, that says it was about the 1.5.7 update we already got! My mistake, my fault, sorry
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ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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actually you're not skipping honeycomb....
honeycomb is a totally different series in Android OS, tablet-specific series to be precise (3.0)
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4

ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
raybond25 said:
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.

Paschalis said:
Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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link please?

neotekz said:
ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
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i believe that it has some modicum of support for dual core, but is not completely optimized for it as 2.4 will be.
that's just my understanding, if someone could provide a link to prove me wrong then i'd freely accept it.

Gingerbread as currently released for SGS has some glitches but guess what Samsung just released the source code! So we should be seeing fixes and tricked out kernels/ROMS/system apps very soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12992329&posted=1#post12992329

bigb252 said:
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I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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I saw the signup sheet too. It never hurts to waste a little time each day looking through these forums. I swear I saw a link for it. I looked at it and saw some sign up thingy on Motorola's website.

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Gingerbread 2.3

Anyone watch the youtube videos about the android 2.3 press confrance supposed to release it 4th quarter of this year
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are you serious? We don't even have a fully working 2.2 yet, and you're worried about 2.3?
No im just saying that googles gonna push out a 2.3 at prob the time froyo roms are fully working for our phone
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Gingerbread is 3.0
DirtyShroomz said:
Gingerbread is 3.0
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Got proof?
Last I heard it was assumed that 3.0 was GingerBread. I remember a time when 2.1 was Flan.
abcdfv said:
Got proof?
Last I heard it was assumed that 3.0 was GingerBread. I remember a time when 2.1 was Flan.
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It's all speculation. Google tends to stay pretty tight until they have a press conference or release party. Look at FroYo - it was a total surprise to wake up and find that they where dropping source into the tree.
The blog-o-sphere refers to Gingerbread as 3.0. I believe that Google has round-about-ly confirmed that the name is in fact "GingerBread", but we won't have a version number till they drop source in the tree again around November. Judging from the speculated improvements, it should be a major version number change.
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Got proof?
Last I heard it was assumed that 3.0 was GingerBread. I remember a time when 2.1 was Flan.
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The numbers have always been right, the names however have changed, at least that's what I've seen but I'm always drunk
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVWhxrf6a9nI&v=VWhxrf6a9nI&gl=US
Its 2.3
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My guess is 2.3 is correct, jumping a full revision number such as to 3.0 would generally indicate a partial or complete rewrite of the core code.
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http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVWhxrf6a9nI&v=VWhxrf6a9nI&gl=US
Its 2.3
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Can't use this link - video is not available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWhxrf6a9nI
Awesome stuff on the horizon.
Pshsweet
I love the apple burn hahha "I turns out that on the Internet, PEOPLE USE FLASH!"
bumping this for a leaked screen shot.
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Is_this_Android_30_Gingerbread_at_Work/551-112399-580.html
3.0 is what the version info says - given its just a screen shot and leaks are hardly ever trust worthy, but i like drama.
I'm still going with 3.0 and not 2.3....
I actually kinda wish that Google would slow down a little. I'm scared to buy a new phone if it's going to be outdated in three months when Google puts out something new. I guess that's why we donate to our developers!
mrcharlesiv said:
I actually kinda wish that Google would slow down a little. I'm scared to buy a new phone if it's going to be outdated in three months when Google puts out something new. I guess that's why we donate to our developers!
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Google has said that they will be slowing down after GingerBread(regardless of the version number). My assumption is they did not expect such rapid growth of the platform and users need a fully functional OS to make it worth buying into - A phone any more is not a quick purchase, there is a lot of investment in hardware and software. Where as with feature phones they where cheap(in comparison) and easily replaceable.
From what I remember seeing, the next update is to have some big changes making it most likely 3.0. All speculation though.
Personally I'm happy android has been updating quick. Keeps the phones newer fresher feeling longer and fixes problems quicker. I came from winmo and never got fixes and the roms bored me. Plus I really hated 6.5.
I'm holding out until December to upgrade and debate on new phone or used evo. I've been out of contract for 9 months now.
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Kcarpenter said:
bumping this for a leaked screen shot.
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Is_this_Android_30_Gingerbread_at_Work/551-112399-580.html
3.0 is what the version info says - given its just a screen shot and leaks are hardly ever trust worthy, but i like drama.
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Somebody probably changed the build.prop or something.

Gingerbread instead of froyo?

hey guys what if the reason we haven't got our froyo is because e are getting gingerbread instead? Google just announced that gingerbread is filly cooked and that is planning to released ASAP.
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drago009 said:
hey guys what if the reason we haven't got our froyo is because e are getting gingerbread instead? Google just announced that gingerbread is filly cooked and that is planning to released ASAP.
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No, we're getting Froyo ... beta has already leaked if you haven't noticed. Official version from Samsung / Sprint should be out sometime in the near future. Don't get your hopes up with Gingerbread because we won't see that on the Epics for quite a while.
Yep. Like I said in the froyo leak forum, any person phone-geeky enough to be hanging out in XDA will probably have a different phone by the time Gingerbread hits the Epic.
However someone did make a good point in that the Nexus S will have gingerbread and since that's a Galaxy S phone it will hopefully be easy to port over to the Epic.
jirafabo said:
Yep. Like I said in the froyo leak forum, any person phone-geeky enough to be hanging out in XDA will probably have a different phone by the time Gingerbread hits the Epic.
However someone did make a good point in that the Nexus S will have gingerbread and since that's a Galaxy S phone it will hopefully be easy to port over to the Epic.
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That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....
While the coming update is undoubtedly Froyo, I think it's only a matter of time before we'll have 2.3. Considering the new Nexus is the "Nexus S" from Samsung and looks to basically be another Galaxy S variant, I think ports will happen.
The Nexus S is not a CDMA phone so the port will take a bit or time, unless the 2.2 kernel works out of the box with 2.3.
It's possible but don't expect instant gratification.
Also shouldn't this be in general?
cicada said:
The Nexus S is not a CDMA phone so the port will take a bit or time, unless the 2.2 kernel works out of the box with 2.3.
It's possible but don't expect instant gratification.
Also shouldn't this be in general?
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Yeah it should, and I don't think anyone was saying we could just dump Nexus S and throw it on our phones.
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That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....
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It won't be so easy if the dual core rumors are true
bobdude5 said:
It won't be so easy if the dual core rumors are true
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assuming they write the code for a dual core too I'd be willing to bet the first dual core phones won't be coded for it
Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
I saw that too.
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Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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Gingerbread is 2.3. I guess the updates don't merit the 3.0 label.
Muckrak3r said:
Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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The Goog has 'officially' said Gingerbread will be 2.3
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The Goog has 'officially' said Gingerbread will be 2.3
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Honeycomb is going to be 3.0
Epic experience + Phoenix kernel + Emotionless beast = Great functionality, Exceptional battery life, and Sweet eye candy.
2.3 would have to be released to the devs at the handset manufacturers so they could customize it for their phones (load it with their crap bloatware, custom interface, etc.....). As we have seen, that takes time (2.2 has been out for a while now). If we were to see 2.3, it would probably be 6 months from now, about the time 2.4 or 3.0 (they should call it Poundcake.....good name, and good Van Halen song) is coming out.
I don't think our handsets will ever see 2.3 at this rate. It will be another year into the future before we see it, and by then our phones won't even be powerful enough to make phone calls.
Oh we will definitely see 2.3 on the epic even if it has to be unofficially brought to us ;-)
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odub303 said:
That was me who said that, and I haven't yet seen anyone argue that it wouldn't be possible....
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This is exactly why I am so excited about the Nexus S. In the same way that the Nexus One gave the Incredible, the Evo 4G and the other HTC devices amazing hacking potential, the Nexus S will make our Galaxy S phones way way better.
More developers will be working on this platform, and we will have all the google stuff working on hardware that is 99% the same. Really, the only thing different will be the CDMA/4G radios, but that is just minor stuff since that is the only difference between the Nexus One and the Evo. Also, the Epic Experience ROM is full of stuff taken off of other Galaxy S devices and it all works great.
Also, I'm going to say that this phone is not dual core. It might have a 1.2ghz hummingbird, but thats the only thing that might be different. It might also have some filesystem stuff that is different but we can hack around all of that. Hopefully it is using the same GPS chip though, because Google will then really light a fire under Samsung to make sure they fix it once and for all.
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Am I mistaken or is Gingerbread not 3.0 ? I see people referring to it as 2.3. Anyone care to chime in?
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Nope, it has been revealed that Gingerbread is 2.3 (which is allegedly coming to the Nexus One in a matter of days); it is speculated that Honeycomb will be 3.0
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My money is on never seeing 2.3
I love my Epic... I'm just pretty sure 2.2 will be our only upgrade
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My money is on never seeing 2.3
I love my Epic... I'm just pretty sure 2.2 will be our only upgrade
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Absolutely no way that we don't get gingerbread. The epic is sprints flagship android phone, not to mention samsungs.
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Gingerbread 2.3

Figured id start a thread about it and people can chime in on what they know and what they want to know. Id like for someone to provide a link to what the up coming features are going to be and when its going to be released. I heard that its going to come out on monday the 6th and some of the features might include some more lime green and a market with music that can be purchased and also some sort of supported video chat. Any truth to this would be cool but I can't confirm anything. I know verizon usually comes out with some kind of sheet to tell users what will be included and I haven't found it yet so if anyone has information that'd be nice to share with the people here on xda.
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JonandRoid said:
Figured id start a thread about it and people can chime in on what they know and what they want to know. Id like for someone to provide a link to what the up coming features are going to be and when its going to be released. I heard that its going to come out on monday the 6th and some of the features might include some more lime green and a market with music that can be purchased and also some sort of supported video chat. Any truth to this would be cool but I can't confirm anything. I know verizon usually comes out with some kind of sheet to tell users what will be included and I haven't found it yet and I heard its coming out tomorrow so if anyone has information that'd be nice to share with the people on xda.
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I highly doubt it will be out tomorrow. And even if it is out tomorrow, it will be on the Nexus one. You should know by now all the updates come out to the Nexus phones first. Obviously it might not be too long after that for us to get it but we've gotta wait for Google's star child first.
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I highly doubt it will be out tomorrow. And even if it is out tomorrow, it will be on the Nexus one. You should know by now all the updates come out to the Nexus phones first. Obviously it might not be too long after that for us to get it but we've gotta wait for Google's star child first.
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yeah plus MOTO will want to make some crappy build with "ninja blur" which will take forever since they only care about the droid x so we'll have to wait a while unless you're rooted. Ports of stock 2.3 should probably be out sometime in the few weeks after it is released for el nexus uno
Not sure about sources and such but:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1930297/tablet-designer-claims-android-23-release
They announced its release this morning along with the Nexus S
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So I'm going to make a guess that getting Gingerbread onto the Droid2 is going to require a new kernel? In and of itself, Gingerbread uses a newer kernel than Froyo, and it seems like there are some significant improvements under the hood that may require kernel support. I suppose this could be verified by comparing the source code between the two releases.
So, barring someone hacking eFuse, I would guess that we aren't going to see Froyo until Motorola decides to release it. Hopefully I'm wrong here...
Cant wait till us Non nexus users get gingerbread
I saw somethig about a new nexus phone out on google, had gingerbread and gingerbread is out to the public now. Cant wait !!
Optimus_droid125 said:
Cant wait till us Non nexus users get gingerbread
I saw somethig about a new nexus phone out on google, had gingerbread and gingerbread is out to the public now. Cant wait !!
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Thats a bit incorrect. Its not out to the public yet.
Sweet, now we only have to wait half a year while moto hacks blur into it to get it.
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Thats a bit incorrect. Its not out to the public yet.
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Not to be a douche but yea it is.
I really don't think it'll take too long for Gingerbread to come out. We've been running 2.2 for a while now. Other phones don't even have Froyo yet. I know they probably have to make it Blur compatible, but I really don't think it'll take too long to get.
If you are rooted you can install the keyboard. http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/download-gingerbread-keyboard-for-rooted-devices/
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I really don't think it'll take too long for Gingerbread to come out. We've been running 2.2 for a while now. Other phones don't even have Froyo yet. I know they probably have to make it Blur compatible, but I really don't think it'll take too long to get.
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This is Motorola we are talking about. It took them months to release 2.2 for the original DROID and that runs stock Android, they barely had to do any work to get it working.
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Not to be a douche but yea it is.
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Other than the SDK, I'm not aware of a running OS on any phones yet. Other than the few people in the world that already have a Nexus S.
The eris, hero, and a few others already have custom roms of gingerbread.
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Sweet, now we only have to wait half a year while moto hacks blur into it to get it.
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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2. I'll just keep my ear to the ground here in hopes of seeing it pop up in a ROM; maybe Matt will display his absolute mod-godhood and port it into Unleashed 4.0!
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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2. I'll just keep my ear to the ground here in hopes of seeing it pop up in a ROM; maybe Matt will display his absolute mod-godhood and port it into Unleashed 4.0!
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Problem is that the new update adds support to things not changable withouth unlocking the bootloader so we are kind of screwed unless something has changed. Or Motorola actually does something worth while.
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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2.
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Lol. The OG Droid was updated all the way to Froyo. I'm pretty sure that the Droid2 will be updated.
It would be interesting if the OG Droid eventually gets updated past the Droid2 (by third parties, obviously).

gingerbread is coming!!!

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4229-android-gingerbread-samsung-epic-captivate-fascinate-vibrant
If this is true, and followed through it will restore my faith in Samsung.
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Just a rumor.... but makes sense.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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My understanding is that the Nexus S (like the Nexus One) is a stripped down, super-phone, demonstration of new technology and in this case the most notable difference would be the form factor and the NFC. I think Sammy would face more backlash from consumers for ignoring hardware customers already paid for so as to make a new product with near-identical hardware better.
I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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That *would* make sense. Also, it would rock.
Is the person who posted that credible?
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Is the person who posted that credible?
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From the article:
While only a rumor, he's usually spot on and the tweet does seem very plausible so we wouldn't be surprised if Samsung Galaxy S phones (Captivate, Fascinate, Epic 4G and Vibrant) will beat HTC and Motorola devices to Android 2.3.
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Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
I honestly though don't care about gingerbread all that much. I'm planning to have this phone for awhile. It does everything I need with ease. Big difference from when I had the Moment and from day 1 felt the need to smash it into a wall because of how slow and laggy it was. I would hope samsung realizes this isn't a phone to cut ties with because it defintely has staying power even after it's superceded by something faster on paper but probably only marginably faster in real world use.
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So if you're wondering why Samsung hasn't bothered upgrading most of its smartphons to Android 2.2 Froyo yet then this could be the reason. Let's see if Samsung leapfrogs to Android Gingerbread before the holidays or not.
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if we skip straight to 2.3 I will start rescuing kittens!!!!
With how good samsung did with sales from all the galaxy s phones, i wouldnt be surprised that they would do this.. that would be so sweet to have gingerbread on epic and since its on the nexus s with samehardware screen and stats, makes sense they could upgrade all variants epic will definitly be the top of the line if it got gingerbread, but also i agree with the poster above about caring less as long as i have a good running phone with 2.2 ill be set til the dual core processors come out and another top of the line phone comes out for sprint next year or 2 years,
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From the article:
Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
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From the article:
Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I would have to agree with you. It would be nice, and it would increase following among sammy, but will it be released soon? At this point, possibly but not probably.
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globalninja said:
I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
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Indeed. I spent months reading about how my Mytouch was getting Eclair only to be let down every time. I will say that if they do leapfrog 2.2 and get my device up-to-android-date then when I buy my fiancee's new phone in about a month she'll be getting a Sammy device. Otherwise, I'm not going to get her a phone that's always out-of-date.
Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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styckx said:
The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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i completly agree with you hopefully it doesnt get posted all over the place including the develpment thread, this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
davidrules7778 said:
Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
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What you are saying makes a lot of sense. Good post.
davidrules7778 said:
this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
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;-) np .... Hopefully we could keep most gingerbread talk here. After all, anything we hear to this point are only to be considered rumors.

HTC Falls Behind Motorola In Updates

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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You need to ***** at sprint HTC is waiting for sprint to let them update that is what HTC said its up to Sprint so everyone needs to flood Sprint with calls emails and demand update.
ItsLasher said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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Well bub, thats the price of a locked/signed bootloader & Moto Blek...
This is why we have XDA my friend.
There's also a difference from Eclair to Froyo from Froyo to Gingerbread.
Froyo actually offered something new from Eclair, Gingerbread does have some benefits but mostly nothing groundbreaking. The X and the Evo were updated to Froyo in about the same time frame of their release.
Didn't the Droid X2 already launch though?
Guess it makes sense, if that is true, that they'd start pushing the update. Isn't that the idea with the Evo? Wait for the successor to drop, then update the past device?
Either way, it'll be here soon enough.
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You need to ***** at sprint HTC is waiting for sprint to let them update that is what HTC said its up to Sprint so everyone needs to flood Sprint with calls emails and demand update.
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Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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And you know this to be fact or purely speculating?
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And you know this to be fact or purely speculating?
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Think about it, its a marketing ploy. Want GB on sprint, buy the Evo 3d, then after they start selling it, oh by the way, the rest of you guys already signed up can get your update now. If they were to update our phones, what incentive would we have to get the 3d since we already would have GB??
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what incentive would we have to get the 3d since we already would have GB??
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I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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Sure, for those of us who are into that, but for the casual user they dont even know about better hardware. They just know GB is the latest software and thats all they want.
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Sure, for those of us who are into that, but for the casual user they dont even know about better hardware. They just know GB is the latest software and thats all they want.
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I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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To the average consumer? No.
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novanosis85 said:
To the average consumer? No.
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LOL. Let me call my wife and ask her what she thinks of Gingerbread. I'll assume she'll have no idea what I'm talking about and maybe bring up cookies.
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I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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My brother knows about a better phone but he Hung onto his G1 till a great deal came, and it did with t-mobile free mt4g....
So some won't care of better hardware or even software....
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I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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I agree. I don't think HTC makes better phones btw, motorola kills them in battery life, and I prefer phones made of metal.
I also would rather believe that people in general would want the newest phone over the newest software update. The "average consumer" probably has no idea what the latest iteration of Android is or how to even check for the ota for it lol.
Is it really that big of a deal? The majority of us have rooted phones running custom ROMs anyway. There are handfuls of GB ROMs, both Sense and AOSP. We've had GB on AOSP ROMs (CM) for months now, while the Droid X didn't get GB ROMs until recently.
I know sometimes it's just to ***** and complain about something for the sake of *****ing and complaining, but seriously, is there any need to say that HTC isn't the "leader of the cell phone game" anymore just because of one simple software update?
Also,
Unlocked bootloader >>>>>>> OTA GB update
Holy speculation based thread we have here batman!
Sprint "holding back updates to all phones" comments are silly.
Also, who cares? With HTC phones I can run Cyanogen and have had Gingerbread for what three months now?
With Motorola I can say I have root...which is meaningless.
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Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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Money hungry corporate whores
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mattykinsx said:
Holy speculation based thread we have here batman!
Sprint "holding back updates to all phones" comments are silly.
Also, who cares? With HTC phones I can run Cyanogen and have had Gingerbread for what three months now?
With Motorola I can say I have root...which is meaningless.
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Lol I wrote HTC they said its up to Sprint .

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