Droid X is sold, bought a fascinate.
Tired of lacking full root, needing SBF's, fake AOSP, and inability to use 3rd party kernels. This all really destroyed what I considered the best phone ever released.
Great job on the eFuse Motorola! I'll never buy another phone again unless it's fully rooted first.
hopefully you also posted this on moto's own DX forums where it would have more desirable impact for you
Haha I six the same. The fascinate has shoddy sour e, great devs abd who knows when it will get froyo let alone gingerbfead. I am a admin in the fascinate irc chat and bc la k of true source, la k of froyo and lots of bugs im back with my x and my dinc( can't decide ) I love miui on the dinc. Trust me fas inats has awesome harware. You are going to regret that decision. I would rather have a lo led bootmoaxer than horse shot software u can't do anything with.
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I definitely agree with you protesting with your wallet, but telling us won't help as much as you sending them an email and posting in there forums.
I miss my Dinc. The X is nice, but man I am missing full root myself. Although, I am sure something better is around the corner. I will hold out.
yeah i had a fascinate for 1 day (basically got it for a cheap price on craigslist so i could either sell or trade for an x) that fascinate was quick but boy that ui sucks. no google? thats even more dumb. i love my x. i had one for a couple months and sold it thinking i was gonna break it in a rough environment i started working in, but now i have another one and won't change til something way better comes out... HTC Merge maybe???
I don't have these problems. Why you might ask well im not rooted I use the phone for what it does and that's a lot. Not a fan of rooting. I see to baby problems with that stuff. I realy on my phone to work when I need it to. Just my two cents. I had the vibrant before this and its the worst phone i've ever had sanding does not take care if there phones. When will it get 2.2? Its six months behind most phones. You are getting rid of one of the best phones out because you can't root it like you want must be nice to mess with a phone then decide to just get something else. I can only afford to buy one phone so I don't mess with it. I mess this phone up I will then be using a very old non smart phone for my new phone. Now I know that there are really cool things that a rooted phone can do but if its not broken don't fix it. Unfortunately im in the minority with this.
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Threads like these, serve no real purpose.
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Threads like these, serve no real purpose.
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Like your post.
Thanks to everyone else's feedback. Although, "ksizzle9" I didn't understand anything you said; that wasn't English, no idea what it was tbh.
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Like your post.
Thanks to everyone else's feedback. Although, "ksizzle9" I didn't understand anything you said; that wasn't English, no idea what it was tbh.
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This made me laugh. I thought the exact same thing. Maybe he was trying to use Swype for the first time or something?
I didn't like my X in the beginning before it was rooted. I hated the blur except for a few apps (Alarm, Camera, etc.), but now that I'm rooted and running Fission I'm more than happy with it.
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I have some questions for you guys, i'm in the market for a new phone and I was wondering how your experience has been with this phone. Do you like it? Do you think the bad reviews are wrong just because it has bing?Would you rather have the Vibrant? Reply with your opinions please, thanks!
Simple answer. I have had the d1 d2 DInc, and the x, the stock launcher is OK but slow. I love the phone e and don't regret it a bit. Not to say there weren't things that I didn't like about the other phones. I wouldn't change it if I could
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Simple answer. I have had the d1 d2 DInc, and the x, the stock launcher is OK but slow. I love the phone e and don't regret it a bit. Not to say there weren't things that I didn't like about the other phones. I wouldn't change it if I could
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thanks for your help
The Fascinate has the best hardware you can get in a phone (with the exception of the Epic on Sprint I guess). Software wise the Fascinate has some issues but most of those can be fixed thanks to the fine folks at this site.
The great thing about the Fascinate is that it's about as open as a phone can get so the possibilities are only limited by our imaginations.
I really really like this phone! There are a couple little niggles, but they're nothing Froyo won't fix.
Personally, I really don't see what the big deal is about Bing. It's easy to get rid of, even if you're not particularly technical (and if so, what are you doing on this site? )
i don't even have a g2 and in no way intend to disrespect any of the hard working devs. but, how many people are pissed off that there is no root yet? not pissed at the devs, but at the measures htc has taken to lock us out. maybe it really is a bug in the chip. what if it never gets rooted? how many people would be extremely mad and sell their g2? like i stated, i don't even own one,but have been into the scene for quite a few years. so i read the g2 thinktank everyday. part of me is always hoping i'll see that it was permanently rooted. but it just doesn't look good. i check everyday because i'll eventually be upgrading my phone soon. and i'd like to rest assured that if these measures are taken on future phones, that the devs will know how to hack it sooner.
anyone think it's never gonna happen? i hope it does. i'm just not used to seeing this being such a huge problem.
It will happen. Give it time. The world was not built in a day.
The phone is still very good even though it isn't rooted yet, and will become a better phone when it is.
I'm pretty much like you, I check the root thread multiple times a day. I really respect those guys.
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i don't even have a g2 and in no way intend to disrespect any of the hard working devs. but, how many people are pissed off that there is no root yet? not pissed at the devs, but at the measures htc has taken to lock us out. maybe it really is a bug in the chip. what if it never gets rooted? how many people would be extremely mad and sell their g2? like i stated, i don't even own one,but have been into the scene for quite a few years. so i read the g2 thinktank everyday. part of me is always hoping i'll see that it was permanently rooted. but it just doesn't look good. i check everyday because i'll eventually be upgrading my phone soon. and i'd like to rest assured that if these measures are taken on future phones, that the devs will know how to hack it sooner.
anyone think it's never gonna happen? i hope it does. i'm just not used to seeing this being such a huge problem.
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People said this same thing about the cat and mouse games on the iPhones, Droid X, etc... See how long those lasted? A few weeks? A few months?
History has shown, given the time and determination, there is no consumer cell phone that cannot be hacked.
I hate that they lock us out of our devices, but they are appliances. This happens in the business world all the time. They do it to 'improve' the device by not allowing you to muff it up.
Either way, we will crack the protection mechanisms, or find overflow exploits, etc... to make it happen.
give it time. anything and everything can be cracked with enough time. plus temp root via visionary works great. We truly only need prem root for custom roms and themes
Yea... look at the ps3 lol
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Yea... look at the ps3 lol
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bad example because that took extremely long.
nah, root on this phone is impossible, it just wont happen. all devs should just give up and everyone sell you g2's --note the sarcasm, lifes full of it --
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People said this same thing about the cat and mouse games on the iPhones, Droid X, etc... See how long those lasted? A few weeks? A few months?
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AFAIK, to date, the Droid X's recovery chip that prevents custom roms has yet to be defeated. Poor example there, I think.
True. The Droid X still can not load custom roms. I'm thinking we're probably going to be the same way. But there's no fun without Cyanogens mods. Ughhhh
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True. The Droid X still can not load custom roms. I'm thinking we're probably going to be the same way. But there's no fun without Cyanogens mods. Ughhhh
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Honestly, 80% of what CyanogenMod brings (aside from bugfixes and optimizations) can be accomplished with full root access to the system.
I think at least some of the Devs see this as a direct challenge to their authority. This is the G2 after all. Root will happen. Droid X comparison is apples and oranges, this is the sequel to the first android device ever! This is where we make our stand or all is lost.
Having stated the above I think HTC, G, and maybe even T-mo are watching this device. Maybe its just to slow down the Devs long enough to push 3.0 . G may try with 3.0 to stop Android fragmentation by offering a huge leap forward. I mean the G1 to G2 jump is mind blowing to me and it seems like a gift to us early adoptors of Android, I want root but the G2 is stunning to me even stock. Just thinking outloud.
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AFAIK, to date, the Droid X's recovery chip that prevents custom roms has yet to be defeated. Poor example there, I think.
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True. The Droid X still can not load custom roms. I'm thinking we're probably going to be the same way. But there's no fun without Cyanogens mods. Ughhhh
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Not true... the chip was defeated.
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/first-droid-x-custom-rom-released-with-installation-instructions/
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/the-droid-x-runs-a-custom-rom-see-for-yourself/
http://www.androidcentral.com/sapphire-custom-rom-running-droid-x
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/08/30...ready-for-manual-install-here’s-how-to-do-it/
We'll get root eventually. Its only a matter of time.
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People are seriously tripping here. If Android can be ported to the HD2 of all devices, then the G2 can get rooted. Even if it doesn't big deal, it may just be me, but this is the first time I've been satisfied with a phones performance on the stock rom. Its faster and more consistent than any phone I've owned.
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Not true... the chip was defeated.
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/first-droid-x-custom-rom-released-with-installation-instructions/
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/the-droid-x-runs-a-custom-rom-see-for-yourself/
http://www.androidcentral.com/sapphire-custom-rom-running-droid-x
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/08/30...ready-for-manual-install-here’s-how-to-do-it/
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Ahh, my bad. Thank you, I don't think I ever heard this news. Must have been pretty hush-hush stuff.
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People are seriously tripping here. If Android can be ported to the HD2 of all devices, then the G2 can get rooted. Even if it doesn't big deal, it may just be me, but this is the first time I've been satisfied with a phones performance on the stock rom. Its faster and more consistent than any phone I've owned.
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This is the truth. I sat and thought hard about what really made me put CM6 on my G1 .. i came to the conclusion that my g1 just wasnt up to par with all of the newer androids. but now i am completely happy with my G2 even on stock. therefore i dont mind waiting for root or if it even happens.
I'm nervous.
Hi everyone!
Long time browser of these forums, but decided to join since I switched from my Iphone 3gs to the Atrix 4g.
Just a question, why so much hate for this phone? Maybe I'm totally in love due to the fact that I'm discovering my freedom on Android (well most of it do to moto/att locking some stuff) but I still think the phone is wonderful.
The only issue is I agree about the screen not being amazing like some of the other Android phones I've seen, but regardless next to my friends G2 and my girlfriends Inspire, my phone is blazing fast, has a pretty good battery (new toy syndrom I'm using it like a monster and It still has not died by the night time start at 8/9am put back in charger about 1/2am with 20% left) and the camera is fine for a smartphone.
I guess it just seems like a lot of hate and I'm wondering if I'm missing something that I should be aware of?
Take care and I hope to be more active in this awesome community.
MrSexyMan
we want everything to be perfect, thats how we are.
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we want everything to be perfect, thats how we are.
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Yep. That's the way it is. If you have had tried Inspire, you would love HTC more.
Well I for one really appreciate all the hate, it is great!
It saves me money.
I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
The Atrix really looked amazing at first but now that people have it in hand, it seems a little...meh.
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Well I for one really appreciate all the hate, it is great!
It saves me money.
I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
The Atrix really looked amazing at first but now that people have it in hand, it seems a little...meh.
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Most people take the time to post "meh", but many more dont post the "ahhh". We all know this. Go to ANY forum whether it be Android, Apple or Blackberry and you'll see plenty of "meh" in each.
The smart thing to do is sit back and wait for a few patches to hit or buy a phone that's been in the market for some time and has all the things smoothed out.
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I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
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What phone has ever fit that description?
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What phone has ever fit that description?
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If you ask all the sheep in the world, it's the iPhone.... with the more GB's.... and the WiFi's
When you go to Inspire forum, u will see how ppl hate Atrix, they feel the Atrix is ****, cheap, ect. ect..
ill admit that i am trolling this site to get some of the feedback on the atrix. i for one would have thought it would have kicked as5 (meaning better reviews). i like reading the the good and bad remarks from users here. i applaude some of the honesty/personal opinions of people who like and didnt like it.
Cause many people (including myself) are from some previous flagship Android phones. While Atrix 4G is been described as "Revolutionary" product, some features are degraded due to Tegra2/Moto. This is where the disappointment come from.
The things that are holding me back
are the Moto blur and the locked down boot loader.
I still have my captivate but I'm itching to move up to the new dual cores. And I got sucked in with Atrix by the lap top dock. That turned out to be a real downer, 500$ for a monitor keyboard and a mouse....what are you insane?
I will wait it out and keep my captivate, maybe the galaxy s2 will make its way over here, and before it does I can read the board and see how people like it over their in Euro Disney.
The ability of running roms really came in handy on the captivate, since I have been running froyo for a long time.
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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The things that are holding me back
are the Moto blur and the locked down boot loader.
I still have my captivate but I'm itching to move up to the new dual cores. And I got sucked in with Atrix by the lap top dock. That turned out to be a real downer, 500$ for a monitor keyboard and a mouse....what are you insane?
I will wait it out and keep my captivate, maybe the galaxy s2 will make its way over here, and before it does I can read the board and see how people like it over their in Euro Disney.
The ability of running roms really came in handy on the captivate, since I have been running froyo for a long time.
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Coming from someone who knows moto and their locked boot loaders (I own a Droid X), I can say it doesn't pose a problem. The dev. community is very creative and found ways arround it. I'm sure the same will happen to the Atrix.
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Coming from someone who knows moto and their locked boot loaders (I own a Droid X), I can say it doesn't pose a problem. The dev. community is very creative and found ways arround it. I'm sure the same will happen to the Atrix.
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Yeah, but by the time it happens, if it happens, there'll be other offerings at the table (Samsung, LG, HTC).
All of which will be more mod friendly, and don't come locked with motoblur *shudders*
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I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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You don't know how to use captivate. Captivate is only slightly slower than Atrix 4G.
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If you ask all the sheep in the world, it's the iPhone.... with the more GB's.... and the WiFi's
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lmao... "I don't care." "I want the white one."
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You don't know how to use captivate. Captivate is only slightly slower than Atrix 4G.
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Out of all phones I've owned the Captivate has been the most laggy. You shouldn't have to worry about undoing and redoing a lag-fix every time you want to install a new rom. The Captivate is an amazing device don't get me wrong. However the short time I've had the Atrix I've been very impressed. 2800 Quadrant on a stock phone? 37-38 Linpack?? NUTS! I'm sure that could change as I'm not sure if quadrant is optimized for Dual Core. But I've noticed absolutely no lag, the accessories are amazing, the screen is super sharp(although I think I still prefer my Nexus S screen ATM so far..) and hopefully we will be able to get a dual root (Android OS and Webtop) someday =) IMO Moto has done well bringing the first dual core to the states. The only perfect phone I've ever had was my N1, the Atrix isn't perfect but it is one of the best (most definitely the fastest) phone on the market.
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When you go to Inspire forum, u will see how ppl hate Atrix, they feel the Atrix is ****, cheap, ect. ect..
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Well isn't that the case on every forum? No different with Inspire/iPhone/Atrix users.
We all hate what we don't have and excessively praise what we have.
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Well isn't that the case on every forum? No different with Inspire/iPhone/Atrix users.
We all hate what we don't have and excessively praise what we have.
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I agree. We are chasing perfection.
The Droid X, Milestone etc bootloaders were not actually unlocked. It was a hoax. http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-bootloader-still-encrypted-developer-comes-clean
I don't see why so many are willing to put up with this. There are plenty of other good android phones out there. As long as Motorola is going to fight this, there will never be a truly safe way to flash custom roms/kernels on droid phones, and devs simply aren't going to invest the time necessary to develop much.
::: Sigh :::
I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
disappointing, and we all know now not to ever trust nenolod again. thunderbolt here i come...
I think its horrible that some one thought it was funny that this happened. I know I am a no body to the android community but I for sure did an "unfollow" on twitter today.
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
@nenolod purposefully lied to us. http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=l8sp.png&xsize=480&ysize=480
This is ridiculous. He cannot be doing this @&#( to us. I have lost all respect for this guy
And the thing is he said it was because people kept bothering him about the stuff. Well I never even heard of this guy until all this came out as im sure the case with most people, so why play this stupid "trick" on all of us?
Again, lets throw all of out locked droid x's at him. He shoukd be banned from android period
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
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I would recommend a Galaxy S. The bootloaders are unlocked and it now has a functional CM7 version. Plus, nothing beats the Super AMOLED screen.
Yeah this was pretty lame, got my hopes up, so I just got a dinc for now until I can afford a new phone or get my upgrade.
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I loved my Droid X when I first got it. Rooted it and had leaked Froyo running on it before OTA was available. After that there was not much more I could do with it. Bought a used Captivate on ebay. There are lots of custom ROMs and kernels to choose from. When September rolls around I hope there is a new Samsung phone available. No more Moto's for me.
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Galaxy S phones are very solid, with a few mods, it will fly. Plus the bootloader is unlocked, if u are coming from the x, you will greatly appreciate this. I just picked up a thunderbolt and so far, i love it. Its crazy fast, LTE or not, and having the 256mb of extra ram really makes for a phone that never slows down, no matter what you are doing. My only complaint other than the battery being undersized, as HTC ALWAYS does, is the adreno 205, people with the mytouch or G2 will tell you its good. When voming from a galaxy s the GPU is the only thing that i dont think is better.
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Yes, yes it will.
I've mooved on to my dinc2 loving it so far just wanted to stop buy and say good buy to this wonderful phone! I hope I can get another fassy just to mess w/ I still have valuable info i would think anyone need help pm me or reply to this post!
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Nah.
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So long.
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Why do people post stupid threads
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It's a way of bragging and saying "look what I got!".
good day.
don't let the door hit in the A** on the way out!
How in the world could anyone leave a super AMOLED screen for an LCD? Samsung has the best camera and the best video player out there. I realize they aren't the best in regards to updating their firmware, but yikes. Samsung has the best hardware, hands down. I don't think I could ever leave them.
Droid charge FTW, by the way.
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How in the world could anyone leave a super AMOLED screen for an LCD? Samsung has the best camera and the best video player out there. I realize they aren't the best in regards to updating their firmware, but yikes. Samsung has the best hardware, hands down. I don't think I could ever leave them.
Droid charge FTW, by the way.
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Agree 100%, you can't beat samsung when it comes to hardware.
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A good friend of mine just upgraded from the Incredible to the Incredible 2 and the only thing I like about it is the front facing camera. Other than that, it's MEH. The screen size is smaller than (or same size as) Fascinate, the speed doesn't seem to be any different, they are still using the LCD, crappy 1 Gig of phone memory, shipped with a small SD card... I'd take a stock, bloated Fascinate over the I2 any day... much less my fully customized, sweetly configured piece of artwork.
Bottom Line: The Fascinate is still one of the best out there, it's an amazing phone that is easy to use with great results. My kids watch movies on it all the time, the screen rocks! Games play flawlessly most of the time and it's just a very nice piece of hardware.
I do wish good ole VZW hadn't jumped away from the GalaxyS II. Now my future plans for an upgrade later this year are going to be put on indefinte hold because I really prefer Samsung.
its sad that the samsung phones tend to need modding to show their true potential, nice phones out-of-the-box, but nowhere near their potential till you start modding.
I am on hold for my upgrade as well to see what verizon will do, may have to change carriers if they dont come up with something from verizon to replace my fassy
I have a funny twist to this story, I have an inc2 but will be switching to a fascinate in a few days, unless my wife wants it. I just want a new toy to play with and it looked like a good phone and I didn't wanna pay 350 for a replacement of her inc 2 she broke, so I ordered a fascinate. I have been reading these forums, and the terminology seems different and some things are new to me "whats this odin thing lol" but I'm really excited to mess with it and try stuff out as I have already done/tried everything available for the inc 2 since it came out. I made a thread under q&a if anyone is so kind to help a fellow flashaholic out...
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odin is a program to push roms and other tar files to the phone. it is a wonderful program if something goes wrong during a flash, odin is there to recover
dejo67 said:
odin is a program to push roms and other tar files to the phone. it is a wonderful program if something goes wrong during a flash, odin is there to recover
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Thanks
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I have a funny twist to this story, I have an inc2 but will be switching to a fascinate in a few days, unless my wife wants it. I just want a new toy to play with and it looked like a good phone and I didn't wanna pay 350 for a replacement of her inc 2 she broke, so I ordered a fascinate. I have been reading these forums, and the terminology seems different and some things are new to me "whats this odin thing lol" but I'm really excited to mess with it and try stuff out as I have already done/tried everything available for the inc 2 since it came out. I made a thread under q&a if anyone is so kind to help a fellow flashaholic out...
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Odin is easily the thing i miss about my fassy the most. It really gives you a sense of security when flashing ****, since in a worse case scenario you can just odin out. none of that pg32img.zip bs.
Zax_Was_Here said:
Odin is easily the thing i miss about my fassy the most. It really gives you a sense of security when flashing ****, since in a worse case scenario you can just odin out. none of that pg32img.zip bs.
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Lol, yeah, you kinda commit with the inc 2 huh?
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