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cya motorola - you win.

Droid X is sold, bought a fascinate.
Tired of lacking full root, needing SBF's, fake AOSP, and inability to use 3rd party kernels. This all really destroyed what I considered the best phone ever released.
Great job on the eFuse Motorola! I'll never buy another phone again unless it's fully rooted first.

hopefully you also posted this on moto's own DX forums where it would have more desirable impact for you

Haha I six the same. The fascinate has shoddy sour e, great devs abd who knows when it will get froyo let alone gingerbfead. I am a admin in the fascinate irc chat and bc la k of true source, la k of froyo and lots of bugs im back with my x and my dinc( can't decide ) I love miui on the dinc. Trust me fas inats has awesome harware. You are going to regret that decision. I would rather have a lo led bootmoaxer than horse shot software u can't do anything with.
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I definitely agree with you protesting with your wallet, but telling us won't help as much as you sending them an email and posting in there forums.

I miss my Dinc. The X is nice, but man I am missing full root myself. Although, I am sure something better is around the corner. I will hold out.

yeah i had a fascinate for 1 day (basically got it for a cheap price on craigslist so i could either sell or trade for an x) that fascinate was quick but boy that ui sucks. no google? thats even more dumb. i love my x. i had one for a couple months and sold it thinking i was gonna break it in a rough environment i started working in, but now i have another one and won't change til something way better comes out... HTC Merge maybe???

I don't have these problems. Why you might ask well im not rooted I use the phone for what it does and that's a lot. Not a fan of rooting. I see to baby problems with that stuff. I realy on my phone to work when I need it to. Just my two cents. I had the vibrant before this and its the worst phone i've ever had sanding does not take care if there phones. When will it get 2.2? Its six months behind most phones. You are getting rid of one of the best phones out because you can't root it like you want must be nice to mess with a phone then decide to just get something else. I can only afford to buy one phone so I don't mess with it. I mess this phone up I will then be using a very old non smart phone for my new phone. Now I know that there are really cool things that a rooted phone can do but if its not broken don't fix it. Unfortunately im in the minority with this.
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Threads like these, serve no real purpose.
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Like your post.
Thanks to everyone else's feedback. Although, "ksizzle9" I didn't understand anything you said; that wasn't English, no idea what it was tbh.

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Like your post.
Thanks to everyone else's feedback. Although, "ksizzle9" I didn't understand anything you said; that wasn't English, no idea what it was tbh.
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This made me laugh. I thought the exact same thing. Maybe he was trying to use Swype for the first time or something?
I didn't like my X in the beginning before it was rooted. I hated the blur except for a few apps (Alarm, Camera, etc.), but now that I'm rooted and running Fission I'm more than happy with it.

atrix forum must be dead!

I haven't seen a progress on this phone yet, i believe the dev's gave up. What do you guys think?

Check the development forum cat...
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I haven't seen a progress on this phone yet, i believe the dev's gave up. What do you guys think?
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Hrmmmm seems fairly active to me. To be honest there is only so much the dev's can do regarding custom roms and other items as the locked bootloader is a huge issue. Considering the Droid X and all of those who have been out longer have yet to be cracked it may take a long time before we have great custom roms.
Go grab a Samsung phone if you are in a hurry. They are easier to flash right now.

On a hopeful tip.. US got the Atrix a little earlier that some countries. It just launched last week in several countries and I would imagine will be made available in even more soon. So there are lots of potential xda users/devs that still dont have their Atrixs yet.

It's active in the sense of tiny updates and deodexing, but i mean even ginerblur, grayblur haven't had a substancial update and to be honest, they kinda lock my phone when it comes to apps cuz it won't let me reinstall the blur apps that i did like.
I don't really see any REAL major updates that people are rolling out. I mean Gladiatrix is pretty good compared to the other roms. I've messed with the webtop customization since i bought the lapdock (feel like it was a waste of money), but i'm still getting that feel like this phone isn't worth the money.
What i REALLY hate about this phone:
4g is bull****, nvidia locked the cores so really we're only getting 1 core usage and i don't see any difference when in webtop mode, it feels sluggish and it feels like it's going to die any second for pushing it so hard. The camera is a failure...i really don't get why people sweat on the MP size when its really about the lens but the atrix lens is soo terrible when working with flash that you need the gallery pic editor to fix every time.
I came from the Nexus One, and i sometimes go back to it just because of how simple, clean, and smooth it is. I know that all phones get problems from time to time but i feel like this phone has soo much potential and none of us are REALLY getting more than 40% out of it. It's really sad to see a phone like this that's going to be put aside by the end of this year.

Mafisometal said:
It's active in the sense of tiny updates and deodexing, but i mean even ginerblur, grayblur haven't had a substancial update and to be honest, they kinda lock my phone when it comes to apps cuz it won't let me reinstall the blur apps that i did like.
I don't really see any REAL major updates that people are rolling out. I mean Gladiatrix is pretty good compared to the other roms. I've messed with the webtop customization since i bought the lapdock (feel like it was a waste of money), but i'm still getting that feel like this phone isn't worth the money.
What i REALLY hate about this phone:
4g is bull****, nvidia locked the cores so really we're only getting 1 core usage and i don't see any difference when in webtop mode, it feels sluggish and it feels like it's going to die any second for pushing it so hard. The camera is a failure...i really don't get why people sweat on the MP size when its really about the lens but the atrix lens is soo terrible when working with flash that you need the gallery pic editor to fix every time.
I came from the Nexus One, and i sometimes go back to it just because of how simple, clean, and smooth it is. I know that all phones get problems from time to time but i feel like this phone has soo much potential and none of us are REALLY getting more than 40% out of it. It's really sad to see a phone like this that's going to be put aside by the end of this year.
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For me 4g is not a problem as I am getting the best att can do in my area anyway, I care little about the camera but I do agree people are way to fixated on pixel count far more then it effects the quality of the picture.
But I do not know about this locking of one of the core processors? I have not heard that, can you point me to some information on that, I will search some on my wn but I am at work, hard to search the web here.

Yet another trolling thread! Sincerely, why don't you switch your phone if it's that bad?
C'mon.

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...nvidia locked the cores so really we're only getting 1 core usage...
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Thread fail

Lol, nVidia locked the cores? Good one. Thread closed.
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Lol, nVidia locked the cores? Good one. Thread closed.
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Yea the thread is closed. You can tell it is because nobody is allowed to comment on it.
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the Atrix is still new.
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[Q] Is this phone worth upgrading from the HD7?

I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.

the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.

blunted09 said:
the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.
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Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!

stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I returned the Atrix yesterday. I really liked it, very fast and an amazing battery, but I had issues with it. My main issue was voice quality. Every single person I spoke to had trouble hearing me. I also didn't like the camera, pictures didn't look good in my opinion. Also, had issues with gps not responding properly from time to time, but I think that was just an issue with my unit not all Atrix phones. Now I'm waiting a week or 2 to see if I get the Infuse 4G, that phone sounds sick!!

stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.

sal2708 said:
I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.
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Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.

yes
it is an upgrade

stratax said:
Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.
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Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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stratax said:
Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!
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just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.

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just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.
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Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..

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Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?

If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?
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To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.

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To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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yeah but think about how much other moto devices lagged with motoblur 2.1/2.2. the droid x did horrible, and it has the new moto blur now and it runs amazing, im sure this will run amazing as well with update.

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If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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really depends. i had the mytouch slide before it was unlocked and it was fine.. makes porting harder and stuff. broken features? like what?

blunted09 said:
dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.
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Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.

stratax said:
Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Yeah... deblur right off the bat. Don't hold your breath on miui tho
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i came from a HD7. i love my atrix >>>>>>>> the hd7

stratax said:
Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..
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stratax said:
Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Lets go over this once. Sense, MotoBlur, TouchWiz, they are not just skins. They are woven into the android build by the respective manufacturers. To port to this phone you would need the ability to flash custom roms, which you can't do on the atrix. Yes there are a few like gingerblur, but those really aren't custom, just tweaked and skinned. Until motorola unlocks the bootloader (don't hold your breath that the devs will ever figure it out), there is no hope. This is why you probably won't see MIUI either.
getting past that, has there ever been a sense port for a non-htc phone? No HTC phone has had the same hardware as the atrix, so i'm betting it's hard to impossible.
not trying to be an ass, just making sure you understand. This is an awesome phone, just don't come in expecting all the openness of old HTC phones.

Traded away my Vibrant for a Mytouch 4G.. and i almost regret it!

I miss the Super amoled screen
Pros:
FFC
HSPA+
LED FLASH
FM RADIO
Physical Buttons + Dedicated Camera Button
Great build quality
Cons:
No Super Amoled Screen
No 16GB Internal Memory
No more Bionix :/
I don't regret it as much but going from a Super Amoled screen to a standard screen really made me realize how great my Sammy Vibe really was! I took it for granted!! You will be missed! (EXCEPT THE GPS ISSUE)
Well i jumped ship.. can't wait for the SGS2 though! Hope to catch up with some of you guys later in the SGS2/HTC SENSATION threads!
Goodbye!
Especially you s15274n. You have been really helpful! Without you knowing. lol
The bionix team and whitehawkxx wish you guys the best.
heading over the the MT4G/Glacier forum now. Peace!

Yeah i feel you man. My wife got a Mytouch 4G and its really nice, i mean really nice, but the Samsung Vibrant has the better screen with the Internal Storage that came way in handy for me. I rooted her mytouch 4g up already and put on some Gingerbread which i love with everything working, and the Vibrant still dont have everything working on Gingerbread. Well i guess ill be seeing you over there. I go from the Vibrant forums to the Mytouch 4g forums, switching out like crazy. =D

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Yeah i feel you man. My wife got a Mytouch 4G and its really nice, i mean really nice, but the Samsung Vibrant has the better screen with the Internal Storage that came way in handy for me. I rooted her mytouch 4g up already and put on some Gingerbread which i love with everything working, and the Vibrant still dont have everything working on Gingerbread. Well i guess ill be seeing you over there. I go from the Vibrant forums to the Mytouch 4g forums, switching out like crazy. =D
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Well except for the GPS (which sucks on the Vibrant anyways haha), our CM7 is basically complete.
I'll probably stay with this phone and wait for the Samsung Hercules to come out. ^^

Longcat14 said:
Well except for the GPS (which sucks on the Vibrant anyways haha), our CM7 is basically complete.
I'll probably stay with this phone and wait for the Samsung Hercules to come out. ^^
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Yeah true its just GPS not working. But also the Battery drain on the phone is terrible, which is really irritating. But once battery drain is fixed then i'll probably be back on CM7 or MIUI.

krazie1 said:
Yeah true its just GPS not working. But also the Battery drain on the phone is terrible, which is really irritating. But once battery drain is fixed then i'll probably be back on CM7 or MIUI.
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Battery drain is a problem?
Wait, I have an extended battery, so I completely forgot. *facepalm*
Sucks, but if I didn't have this battery, I always have a place to charge the phone. And I heard the drain isn't as bad as it used to be.

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Battery drain is a problem?
Wait, I have an extended battery, so I completely forgot. *facepalm*
Sucks, but if I didn't have this battery, I always have a place to charge the phone. And I heard the drain isn't as bad as it used to be.
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It is still pretty bad...All CM7 running devices have pretty crappy battery-life (I have 3: N1, Vibrant, MT4g.

people you are too impatient. Just when they get the software for the Vibrant Humming you all jump ship.......... Hercules and the S2 will be out in the next 30 days and then, we will have something really to go too.........
Wanting always is better than the having.......... patience

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people you are too impatient. Just when they get the software for the Vibrant Humming you all jump ship.......... Hercules and the S2 will be out in the next 30 days and then, we will have something really to go too.........
Wanting always is better than the having.......... patience
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I agree with you, but since i didn't buy a new phone and simply traded i feel that jumping ship wasn't a bad choice. I still plan to upgrade!
Also the MT4G can be resold for a higher price than the Vibrant on craigslist.
BTW... WINNING!

To any CM7 users of vibrant and another phone with CM7(nexus one,MT4g,G2 etc.) are there any other difference in speed? I'm using Cm7 on vibrant but i can't compare it cause it's my only phone.

I picked up a g2 for cheap but still have my vibrant. I don't know what all the fuss was about. This doesn't feel any faster than my kb5 vibrant, and the "build quality" just makes it feel heavy and bulky. Its a decent phone overall, but not any better overall than my vibrant.
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Traded the Mytouch 4G for a G2.. G2 is a way better phone than the Mytouch 4G. Some people don't miss keyboards.. but you are crazy not to have a keyboard!! Bought the game gripper and wow.. just wow. The G2 is an overall fun phone and great speed/development/great everything!! Even the hinges on this unit are amazingly stronger than the other g2's i have used.

I really like my wifes mt4g. I began to dislike my G2 before I sold it. It felt like a phone meant for someone that doesn't know how to dress themself. It's hard to explain.
My Vibrant is starting to get old, but I have a sgs4g on the way that should renew my interest in the galaxy line.
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allthrottle said:
My Vibrant is starting to get old, but I have a sgs4g on the way that should renew my interest in the galaxy line.
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Not quite sure what about the SGS 4G would renew your interest in comparison to the Vibrant, unless you are in a 4G area and just really CRAVE the extra bandwidth so much that you won't miss the internal 16GB from the Vibrant (4G only has 1GB internal).. And of course, FFC.... which really AFAIC is a "bell and whistle" that 99% of people use once and never use again.

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I really like my wifes mt4g. I began to dislike my G2 before I sold it. It felt like a phone meant for someone that doesn't know how to dress themself. It's hard to explain.
My Vibrant is starting to get old, but I have a sgs4g on the way that should renew my interest in the galaxy line.
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There is also very very very little development going on with it...
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I want a mt4g, I just have no idea how to root it, hah, thats the only thing keeping me away.

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I want a mt4g, I just have no idea how to root it, hah, thats the only thing keeping me away.
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Add the bad/good screens, dust under the screen issues, bad eMMC chips that are said to cause bricking, creaky buttons on a few units, and off centered FFCs on a few. I wanted to trade as well, but a look at the forums steered me right away.

Well, the only phone I'm moving to when I get the chance is the SGSII, no matter what.
I love HTC phones but plenty of those are CDMA only and that doesnt work in my country :[

I bought the mytouch4g back in January and it was so great to have a phone that worked well right out the box and every custom gingerbread rom I've put on it has ran smoothly. However, I find myself constantly going back to my Vibrant. I miss the screen and I feel like the Vibrant has a lot more devs working on roms. I was just about to sell my Vibrant so I could have a few extra bucks when I read about the GPS fix. If I can find the perfect Gingerbread rom I will be keeping my vibrant until Samsung releases a dual-core phone for T-Mobile.

HTC Evo Shift Vs Samsung Epic 4G *ROOTED*

So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers

Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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Well seeing how the Epic community jumped on my question much faster, with more people ... Lol jk.
But any more suggestions people? Thanks in advance

Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone

westicle said:
Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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This. And I own an Epic (my wife has the shift). I'd never trade my Epic in for anything, at least at this point, but yeah the Epic forum is full of complainers, trolls, and guys with tiny wangs (or so I assume with how they have to constantly act like king s**t in the forums all of the time). And shift has a ton more devs, plus working cm7. But the phone itself is sweet, and faster (in my opinion, with the right rom), and has an independent number row. And the screen is bigger and looks nicer. I could go on and on about differences, but I've gotta run for now.
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From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.

HTCotta said:
From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.
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I certainly had this issue on stock rom on the Epic. I couldn't even make it through a work shift without the battery dying. But custom roms on the Epic blow that out of the water. I now can go a whole day of moderate usage and still have around 30-40%. But I don't know, I'm guessing with a custom rom the Shift still kicks the Epic's ass battery-wise. My wife is running CM7 (which the Epic may not see for a looong time), and I don't ever see her reaching for a charger or complaining of the battery. And being of the female variety, she tends to use a lot of the live wallpapers, widgets, etc...

fifedogg said:
Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone
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The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$

curiousGeorge said:
The Shift is again unrootable
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How can it be unrootable "again"? If it was unrootable the first time, then how did we get it?
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...all new ones will remain unrootable forever.
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Yes, you are absolutely right. The updated ROM from Sprint will never be rooted.
NEVER. EVER.
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?

x99percent said:
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?
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I've seen where a few people have tried the one zip ruu but the updated bootloader didn't recognize it.
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X99 was wondering that my self,gonna try it later tonite when the wife gets home.She uodated hers,I downloaded an ruu yesterday the .exe. I will report in the am
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Epic. 10char
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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You need to take a breather my friend. The stock 2.3 will get rooted in time, just like the 2.2 did. "Unrootable forever" is just an ignorant statement. If all you're gonna do is rant and rave a bunch of misinformation, please keep the post to yourself.

Back on topic...
I have a shift and purchased the Epic for my wife.
The Epic display is nicer, and the epic actually feels lighter (and is?) Than my shift. It also has more keys on the keyboard.
However, on stock ROMs my shift seems faster and has better battery life. UI's are a very personal preference, but I much prefer the HTC sense and overall software stack vs Samsung's touchwiz. It just seems to work better.
I've beeen running custom ROMs on my shift and most of them work well. About ready to try a custom ROM on the Epic to see if it works better...
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.

after the samsung moment debacle i will never own another samsung phone. to me the epic is a moment on steroids. its still a POS lol. glad i switched to the shift

prboy1969 said:
Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.
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+1
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ive been very happy with both my shift and the dev community here (who have turned me from an ignorant n00b-lout into a root-user) and all those who have helped me try and solve my problems.
As for rooting gingersense, it will happen soon enough, just give the devs here some time.

My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.

Stuke00 said:
My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.
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Rooting in and of itself isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in battery life. It's what you do with the root that counts... lol, sounds like a phallic joke gone bad...
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