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I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
Relax bro, all good things will come. I was able to mod my phone a lot because these devs are putting all they can into our phone's development.
We already have lag fixes, OC kernels, debloating tutorials, backlight mods, standard unlocking screens, etcetc. Not to mention plenty of themes, apps, and other cool things.
Just relax and take a breather. We got froyo on the way and developers are waiting for that so they can really unleash the beast.
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WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.
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I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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I am very very very very very very happy with it. Only lacking .gif support in the browser. But that's what 2.2 is for.
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.
if you want to customize your phone learn to make apps,themes, and what not your self.you can't customize your phone if you don't put effort into it. don't complain if you won't contribute and work at it
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mackeydesigns said:
WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.
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Exactly. Or phones are more than capable, and this is without much overclocking and froyo. My phone is ridiculously fast and stable, and its one hell of a looker
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Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.
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Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.
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...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)
Actually, there are devs but they don't have the froyo kernal to work with. SGS international version has the kernal leaked, that's why they have the froyo-beta-ish roms.
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...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)
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Lol omg
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jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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Having come from an N1, which is inarguably the most dev friendly Android phone to date, I have to whole heartedly disagree with the OP. It is a little aggravating dealing with Voodoo now and then, and the processes are a little different, but all in all this phone is fantastic.
I have a custom bare-bone type rom built, fully themed and customized to my hearts content. Four installed launchers that each have a completely different style and feel which I can switch at will. OC Voodoo lag and color fix kernel running on interactive thanks to Jt, and plenty of mix and match mods and hacks to keep me flashing back and forth so frequently no one can actually call me.
We do only have a handful of devs working on the fascinate currently. They happen to also be pretty damn awesome, and give us plenty to work and play with.
I have to re-ask the question, what the hell are you actually looking to do that you can't?
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I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...
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This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...
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I think he is trying to come out of black screen issue.
good day.
How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!
Generally because you can sum up their complaints to a) why aren't devs giving me what I want now b) I have had my phone a month, understand very little but need to complain, or c) this phone sucks, I had my g1 for a year and we had tons of mods, dev r teh lazy.
So yeah, trolls.
If they were here to learn... The complaints wouldn't be their posting topics, they would be off learning. They are here to feed off others works and complain.
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How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!
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I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.
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I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.
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I agree with you about the general section & out of the box comment. Its just that there are many other threads with the same topic. But he has the right to post this question, and I was merely asking what was wrong with the phone according to him. Out of the box, the phone is still very capable and it honestly doesnt need to be modded. But the mods are very nice.
Also what phone is perfect stock? There's always cons, and that's why we're on the forums looking for answers.
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no phone is perfect.... that's why were all always going to complain lolol
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Exactly if there was any phone close to perfect for me out would be this. The iPhone is totally out of the picture.
Hi everyone!
Long time browser of these forums, but decided to join since I switched from my Iphone 3gs to the Atrix 4g.
Just a question, why so much hate for this phone? Maybe I'm totally in love due to the fact that I'm discovering my freedom on Android (well most of it do to moto/att locking some stuff) but I still think the phone is wonderful.
The only issue is I agree about the screen not being amazing like some of the other Android phones I've seen, but regardless next to my friends G2 and my girlfriends Inspire, my phone is blazing fast, has a pretty good battery (new toy syndrom I'm using it like a monster and It still has not died by the night time start at 8/9am put back in charger about 1/2am with 20% left) and the camera is fine for a smartphone.
I guess it just seems like a lot of hate and I'm wondering if I'm missing something that I should be aware of?
Take care and I hope to be more active in this awesome community.
MrSexyMan
we want everything to be perfect, thats how we are.
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we want everything to be perfect, thats how we are.
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Yep. That's the way it is. If you have had tried Inspire, you would love HTC more.
Well I for one really appreciate all the hate, it is great!
It saves me money.
I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
The Atrix really looked amazing at first but now that people have it in hand, it seems a little...meh.
smitty1 said:
Well I for one really appreciate all the hate, it is great!
It saves me money.
I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
The Atrix really looked amazing at first but now that people have it in hand, it seems a little...meh.
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Most people take the time to post "meh", but many more dont post the "ahhh". We all know this. Go to ANY forum whether it be Android, Apple or Blackberry and you'll see plenty of "meh" in each.
The smart thing to do is sit back and wait for a few patches to hit or buy a phone that's been in the market for some time and has all the things smoothed out.
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I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
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What phone has ever fit that description?
dlazer said:
What phone has ever fit that description?
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If you ask all the sheep in the world, it's the iPhone.... with the more GB's.... and the WiFi's
When you go to Inspire forum, u will see how ppl hate Atrix, they feel the Atrix is ****, cheap, ect. ect..
ill admit that i am trolling this site to get some of the feedback on the atrix. i for one would have thought it would have kicked as5 (meaning better reviews). i like reading the the good and bad remarks from users here. i applaude some of the honesty/personal opinions of people who like and didnt like it.
Cause many people (including myself) are from some previous flagship Android phones. While Atrix 4G is been described as "Revolutionary" product, some features are degraded due to Tegra2/Moto. This is where the disappointment come from.
The things that are holding me back
are the Moto blur and the locked down boot loader.
I still have my captivate but I'm itching to move up to the new dual cores. And I got sucked in with Atrix by the lap top dock. That turned out to be a real downer, 500$ for a monitor keyboard and a mouse....what are you insane?
I will wait it out and keep my captivate, maybe the galaxy s2 will make its way over here, and before it does I can read the board and see how people like it over their in Euro Disney.
The ability of running roms really came in handy on the captivate, since I have been running froyo for a long time.
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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The things that are holding me back
are the Moto blur and the locked down boot loader.
I still have my captivate but I'm itching to move up to the new dual cores. And I got sucked in with Atrix by the lap top dock. That turned out to be a real downer, 500$ for a monitor keyboard and a mouse....what are you insane?
I will wait it out and keep my captivate, maybe the galaxy s2 will make its way over here, and before it does I can read the board and see how people like it over their in Euro Disney.
The ability of running roms really came in handy on the captivate, since I have been running froyo for a long time.
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Coming from someone who knows moto and their locked boot loaders (I own a Droid X), I can say it doesn't pose a problem. The dev. community is very creative and found ways arround it. I'm sure the same will happen to the Atrix.
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Coming from someone who knows moto and their locked boot loaders (I own a Droid X), I can say it doesn't pose a problem. The dev. community is very creative and found ways arround it. I'm sure the same will happen to the Atrix.
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Yeah, but by the time it happens, if it happens, there'll be other offerings at the table (Samsung, LG, HTC).
All of which will be more mod friendly, and don't come locked with motoblur *shudders*
panflute said:
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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How is 512mb "short on memory"
panflute said:
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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You don't know how to use captivate. Captivate is only slightly slower than Atrix 4G.
elementaldragon said:
If you ask all the sheep in the world, it's the iPhone.... with the more GB's.... and the WiFi's
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lmao... "I don't care." "I want the white one."
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You don't know how to use captivate. Captivate is only slightly slower than Atrix 4G.
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Out of all phones I've owned the Captivate has been the most laggy. You shouldn't have to worry about undoing and redoing a lag-fix every time you want to install a new rom. The Captivate is an amazing device don't get me wrong. However the short time I've had the Atrix I've been very impressed. 2800 Quadrant on a stock phone? 37-38 Linpack?? NUTS! I'm sure that could change as I'm not sure if quadrant is optimized for Dual Core. But I've noticed absolutely no lag, the accessories are amazing, the screen is super sharp(although I think I still prefer my Nexus S screen ATM so far..) and hopefully we will be able to get a dual root (Android OS and Webtop) someday =) IMO Moto has done well bringing the first dual core to the states. The only perfect phone I've ever had was my N1, the Atrix isn't perfect but it is one of the best (most definitely the fastest) phone on the market.
ronan_zj said:
When you go to Inspire forum, u will see how ppl hate Atrix, they feel the Atrix is ****, cheap, ect. ect..
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Well isn't that the case on every forum? No different with Inspire/iPhone/Atrix users.
We all hate what we don't have and excessively praise what we have.
metaldood said:
Well isn't that the case on every forum? No different with Inspire/iPhone/Atrix users.
We all hate what we don't have and excessively praise what we have.
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I agree. We are chasing perfection.
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.
blunted09 said:
the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.
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Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!
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I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I returned the Atrix yesterday. I really liked it, very fast and an amazing battery, but I had issues with it. My main issue was voice quality. Every single person I spoke to had trouble hearing me. I also didn't like the camera, pictures didn't look good in my opinion. Also, had issues with gps not responding properly from time to time, but I think that was just an issue with my unit not all Atrix phones. Now I'm waiting a week or 2 to see if I get the Infuse 4G, that phone sounds sick!!
stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.
sal2708 said:
I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.
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Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.
yes
it is an upgrade
stratax said:
Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.
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Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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stratax said:
Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!
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just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.
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just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.
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Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..
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Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?
If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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stratax said:
The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?
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To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.
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To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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yeah but think about how much other moto devices lagged with motoblur 2.1/2.2. the droid x did horrible, and it has the new moto blur now and it runs amazing, im sure this will run amazing as well with update.
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If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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really depends. i had the mytouch slide before it was unlocked and it was fine.. makes porting harder and stuff. broken features? like what?
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dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.
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Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Yeah... deblur right off the bat. Don't hold your breath on miui tho
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i came from a HD7. i love my atrix >>>>>>>> the hd7
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Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..
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Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Lets go over this once. Sense, MotoBlur, TouchWiz, they are not just skins. They are woven into the android build by the respective manufacturers. To port to this phone you would need the ability to flash custom roms, which you can't do on the atrix. Yes there are a few like gingerblur, but those really aren't custom, just tweaked and skinned. Until motorola unlocks the bootloader (don't hold your breath that the devs will ever figure it out), there is no hope. This is why you probably won't see MIUI either.
getting past that, has there ever been a sense port for a non-htc phone? No HTC phone has had the same hardware as the atrix, so i'm betting it's hard to impossible.
not trying to be an ass, just making sure you understand. This is an awesome phone, just don't come in expecting all the openness of old HTC phones.
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.
SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.
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The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.
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Thanks. I know both are coming, the ED3 probably much sooner...I don't think I'll spend $200 on one of those phones though...but I am hoping the regular EVO can be free somewhere soon
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1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.
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Thanks for the answer, but wow, Hero has more development than the Epic? I wouldn't have expected that. I was going to get the Epic from BB yesterday, but the one I went to sold out and the next one only had two and I ran out of time, so I either get it from Amazon or wait for another sale
The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
Also, Hero has more development since it was one of the first Android phones for Sprint, it was one of the nicest ones for its time and it was an HTC phone. Samsung tends to keep away developers. After the Evo came out, a few devs jumped ship to that but there were too many devs to let the phone die. Hell, look at Deca, I was so happy when he said he got an Epic knowing all the stuff he did for the Hero, I still cant wait what he can do for the Epic.
Darkshneider said:
Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
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It doesn't lol.
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zanderman112 said:
It doesn't lol.
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Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)
Darkshneider said:
Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)
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Oh, sorry
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SDRebel said:
Thanks in advance
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I have had my epic since jan maybe before but it seems like forever the phone stock is great I had no issues with any of the stock apps and functions. Now that I'm rooted and on syndicate frozen 1.1.1 its like having a brand new phone again. my opinion is get it you can't go wrong with it the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it. Hope this helps.
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You wont find a better phone on the Sprint network for the same price for at least another 6-9 months (Free).
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the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it.
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The keyboard was a big factor for me in choosing the Epic over the Evo. I still think I made the right choice, but I *never* use the keyboard. It's just too easy to type with swype. Whenever I ultimately decide to upgrade, it will be to a phone with no keyboard.
I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Lol its ok. The Nexus S has the same 1Ghz Hummingbird we do.
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I just got a new epic for free at best buy and gave my gf my old epic to replace her ****ty moment. For free the phone kicks all the "budget androids" asses. Order while you can for free at amazon.
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epic is the stuff
i love my epic..... had a semi brick the other day had me worried but odin did the trick even had a screen that ppl well versed in the epic language have never seen but with some persistance i got her back up and running
If you root it, its a good phone.
GPS Aids is a must, GPS is golden now.
4G only works outside...
The Viper Rom is the best, just use Root Uninstaller to delete the teams bloatware.
Dont overclock (only fun for benches), its not worth the battery lose/glitches.. Just use setcpu to change the governor to Performance.. Alot of games play good with Performance gov. and clocks set to as low as 400 mhz.
Only complaint: No gyro. Dont give me any lines about this! I wanna play Nova with a gyro not a touch screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.
the keyboard is great for using Terminal Em. or punching in passwords. But ya it might not be worth the bulk..
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I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.
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I must be confused about what you mean by Gyro
I play quite a few games that operate via tilting the phone only, rather than the touch screen
normal android devices, and the atrix on 2.2, use some standard nice screen transitions. to enter an app, zoom in. entering each subsequent screen the page swoops from the right. and backing out the screen swoops back to the left.
now on 2.3.4, EVERY single transitino is a zoom in/out, and i have never seen such an ugly horrendous idea before. anyone know if there is a way to bring the device back to the stock method? maybe in custom ROM with frameworks edit or something?
just can't comprehend how someone thought "hey, this looks great, let's change it to this way". am i crazy?
Yeh it sucks, but you'll get used to it...
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RogerPodacter said:
am i crazy?
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Yes.
But to fix your "problem" go to settings, display, then animation. Pick no animation to get rid of any transition. I don't think there is a way to get back to froyo transitions.
And now that I think about it, I don't remember it ever swooping left or right. I had a zoom in to enter an app and a hard cut home when leaving an app.
Oh it swooped left and right, I just confirmed this on 2.2. Its the standard android way. We read left to right. Right is forward, left is backwards, its a very valuable ui element to all android phones flow.
Of course for now I disabled animations, but that looks bad too. I just can't believe it, I truly am blown away by this.
I don't c anything wrong with them
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I enjoy the screen animations
In this link you find UI Animations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774738
I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
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I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
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lol, +1 /10 Chars
stratax said:
I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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yeah, all smartass aside jokes. im sure we will get someone to make animations. usually takes a while.
need stable ROM, then themes, then hacks/mods, then little things like animations. usually how it goes. we dont have a completely stable (custom) ROM. that i know of that is. like MIUI, CM7.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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wow buddy you need to not stress so much off of phone animations. turn them off or load a different rom.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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lol man... I think you need you need to find something more meaningful in your life if this is what makes your blood boil.
It was a little exaggerated obviously. But I do hate it immensely. It would be a good project to change it back.
I'm surprised this thread got even any opposition. Surely the other android phones you guys used had this. There isn't a single android yet like this till the atrix on 2.3.4. First of its kind.
I don't like the stupid animations in gingerbread,too but going to get used to with hate or love.
CognAtrix has standard animations....
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It was a little exaggerated obviously. But I do hate it immensely. It would be a good project to change it back.
I'm surprised this thread got even any opposition. Surely the other android phones you guys used had this. There isn't a single android yet like this till the atrix on 2.3.4. First of its kind.
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i honestly really like every animation in this build, just my two cents
designgears said:
CognAtrix has standard animations....
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where can we find it? i dont see it in your sig or on xda or on google?! i would love to go back to standard too, besides the CRT screen on and off, haha, I love those.
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I don't like the stupid animations in gingerbread,too but going to get used to with hate or love.
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Well for reference, gingerbread on all devices uses the standard method. Zoom in/out for the entry and exit point of the app to home screen, with all screen changes inside the app swoops left and right for forwards and backwards. Only moto changed to all zooms on gb, and they had it right on froyo.
All zooms actually messes you up a bit if you're doing some fast navigating around the device.
Try this zip with metamorph: http://bit.ly/qkX7df
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