First, this isn't a post about how to get root on 2.3. I know, at present, it is not possible. I know, I have tried pretty much every method imaginable
Anyway:
Where are we? I've heard rumors that S-off is coming from unreoked, alpharev x, team win will be coming "any day." Yeah, I'll believe it when I get it.
But, I think we are at the point where we are at HTC and Sprint's mercy. I mean, are we at the point where we are going to have to beg sprint and or HTC, to put S-OFF, or, somewhat more realistically, unlock the bootloader (or at least provide an RUU to downgrade?).
Anyway: Just discuss what you think about the plausibility of rooting the 2.3 release, and if we will ever see a free EVO. I am, sadly stuck on 2.3, as I didn't think about rooting, or know anything about it, until after I took the OTA .
Flame on! #johnnystorm
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This isn't another one of those posts claiming to not be one of those posts about the locked bootloader that has been posted more than enough?
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COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
--http://twitter.com/
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......
I don't think we're stuck at Spint's/HTC's mercy. We're just further down the priority list of the devs. That's fine, its the nature of technology. As STG posted, Alpharev and unrevoked are posting something tonight. That could be a universal GB crack (hope!) or it could be a rooted 3d/Sensation. Either way, OG Evo is moving up on the priority list. Its an old phone, but hardly forgotten.
SGTSTEW75 said:
COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
--http://twitter.com/
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......
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Damn You, You beat me.
http://revolutionary.io/
I hope that it really is a root for gb. stock rom is killing me.
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HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.
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HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.
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If I recall HTC's statement correctly, they said the 3vo and the sensation would receive the updates first and then in September they would unlock phones that have recently been locked down...I believe the og evo is on that list.
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If that "Something Revolutionary" is root for Evo Gingerbread, I will be voluntary slave to the devs for five years... Okay, maybe not, but Paypal donation, without question.
You guys are doing truly heroic work.
I still think it is obnoxious that Android phones (which ironically, is the "open" platform), have become more locked down. I am glad to see that HTC and other companies are starting to realize that this stuff is important. I think that it is at least a big step forward. I do believe HTC will follow through on their promise, at least for future phones. I don't think that they'd go back on their word. I'm just optimistic like that .
This "later today" thing is killing me. See; Now I am going to be on that page hitting F5 every couple minutes for the rest of the day .
Yea, yeah, I know: No ETAs.
Best of luck to all
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Many people think it is dead and there are no devs working on it anymore, but this isnt true. There are still multiple devs with this phone, yes some are working on other phones but look at this device, it has everything. We already have Froyo, and really we need the source to get the bluetooth working so now were only waiting for HTC to release the source. You could be on another device that is outdated or even unsupported anymore.
So be patient, well be getting S-Off and Official Froyo soon
I'm with you. Even Cyanogen takes care of Slide.
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I'm with you. Even Cyanogen takes care of Slide.
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Plus teamdouche, with their nightlies coming like everyday.
anyone remember the "froyo coming soon" in june? i don't we're going to get official froyo at all. Look at most roms, "updated 10/08!!!!" thats more than a month that it was updated, the development for this phone is dead.
Development isn't dead it's just slowed. There are new phones to work with. It's more fun to dev on a phone that's new and to an extent unknown than one that's pretty much given up all its secrets.
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anyone remember the "froyo coming soon" in june? i don't we're going to get official froyo at all. Look at most roms, "updated 10/08!!!!" thats more than a month that it was updated, the development for this phone is dead.
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i just feel like g2 just got permanent root yet if you see their forum they have had many different updates, for many different types of roms, from many devs and besides team douche the only updates we get are people porting other roms....ever month or two. i would love to see this forum as lively as others, but at this point its not so.
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Development isn't dead it's just slowed. There are new phones to work with. It's more fun to dev on a phone that's new and to an extent unknown than one that's pretty much given up all its secrets.
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deving for g1 n mytouch was regular no matter what new phones arrived.
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deving for g1 n mytouch was regular no matter what new phones arrived.
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And both are still kicking even though they're more than a year old.
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And both are still kicking even though they're more than a year old.
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The G1 is two years old.
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And both are still kicking even though they're more than a year old.
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i guess thats cuz peoople bought into them, unlike the slide
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So be patient, well be getting S-Off and Official Froyo soon
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I'll believe that when I see it...
The only dependable development for this handset comes from #teamdouche.
I just hope someone would port MyTouch 4G rom for the Mytouch Slide!!!!
really that would be the best accomplishment on his phone!
developers pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!
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I just hope someone would port MyTouch 4G rom for the Mytouch Slide!!!!
really that would be the best accomplishment on his phone!
developers pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!
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I'm not a developer, but I do know that this would be an extremely difficult task due to different screen resolutions. Just wait for official TMO Slide 2.2 and we'll have some great roms no doubt about that.
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I'm not a developer, but I do know that this would be an extremely difficult task due to different screen resolutions. Just wait for official TMO Slide 2.2 and we'll have some great roms no doubt about that.
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I knew that resolution may be challenge, but If that issue is beaten then it'd bring more options, this phone would reach its top development. I know its difficult, but it seems that we won't even gonna get Froyo from t-mobile, but devs made it possible!
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I knew that resolution may be challenge, but If that issue is beaten then it'd bring more options, this phone would reach its top development. I know its difficult, but it seems that we won't even gonna get Froyo from t-mobile, but devs made it possible!
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We are. T Mobile has confirmed it on many occasions. If froyo is on the myTouch 3G...we will 100% get it on the Slide.
By the time we get official Froyo, there will be Gingerbread already for some devices I think. I wish they skipped Froyo to release Gingerbread update instead.
From HTC and Tmo's standpoint, updating these phones is gotta be the last thing on there minds.
Face it updating these phones doesn't make them any money.
Frankly they'd both be happier if you just bought another phone.
Manufacturers and Telco's are in the business of selling phones and cellular service.
Not making FREE updates.
I realize if we had official froyo from Tmo and the bluze source that would add additional functionality to our phones,
but, personally I don't even care.
What I mean is that I'm satisfied with what team douche and the bunch, as well as other devs are doing and have done for our phone.
I put more faith in what they will come up with than waiting on anything from HTC and Tmo.
You people(not all) are impatient, I had a cliq and they promised us 2.1 update last december, you when cliq users got it? Acouple weeks ago! Ya ok it maybe a little while but if you had any consideration of what their doing, youd be a little more patient. They have port the whole rom to 2.2, some may say that isnt so hard you go and try and port a app or something from 2.1 to 2.2, Goodluck. Also I talked to Cheifz and he said S-Off is done for the Slide and AlphaRev is waiting to finish S-Off for another device so they can release both at the sametime.
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We are. T Mobile has confirmed it on many occasions. If froyo is on the myTouch 3G...we will 100% get it on the Slide.
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I see this claim bandied about often, but can anyone cite a press release to back this claim up? Anyone? Beuller? Yeah...
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I see this claim bandied about often, but can anyone cite a press release to back this claim up? Anyone? Beuller? Yeah...
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http://www.tmonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/android22mytouch3g.png
Third paragraph.
It's been getting quieter and quieter as of lately. I hope they are getting closer to something big or working hard on something, because this is a great phone. Its even encouraged me to start to do a little dev'ing of my own But in the meanwhile I'll just continue to wait patiently
We should see some minor momentum when it launches internationally later this spring.
the devs are most likely using the private forums, which is why its been quiet in the public ones...
i hope
unlocking the bootloader would be the bomb! ... but that's easy to say
I really wish something like this would happen. It such a shame to have the flagship android device on AT&T have such a hard time with devs because of the bootloader.
Hard to see any development until they release source with bootloader unlock. Hopefully gingerbread isn't far off given the Droid x had it released.
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Hard to see any development until they release source with bootloader unlock. Hopefully gingerbread isn't far off given the Droid x had it released.
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Wasn't is stated somewhere that gingerbread would come Q2 or Q3? I can't remember
Hopefully with the next update as well as the current drop in prices through Amazon, etc, we'll see more interest. The locked bootloader is probably a big turn off for most developers though.
So it's April 13th.. Where is that HSUPA firmware upgrade AT&T told us we would get?
Jesus... I didn't know that April 13th was the end of April... These months have sure gotten shorter.
I'm just spit-balling here, but when a company states they'll be releasing an OTA in April, that might mean they'll release it at some point in the month. Not just within the first two weeks.
You might be justified in using that statement the first week of March, but... Nevermind.
Actually, the Atrix's irc channel is very active and devs are working on the bootloader (kholk even stated that he has a method to unlock/bypass it, but he's away until the 2nd of May, so he'll probably test/finish/whatever it when he returns).
I think that devs tend not to post their smaller ideas on the forums now, but rather discuss them on irc as the forums got quite messy with lots of off topic crap...
That would be outstanding...
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Actually, the Atrix's irc channel is very active and devs are working on the bootloader (kholk even stated that he has a method to unlock/bypass it, but he's away until the 2nd of May, so he'll probably test/finish/whatever it when he returns).
I think that devs tend not to post their smaller ideas on the forums now, but rather discuss them on irc as the forums got quite messy with lots of off topic crap...
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nerdgasm!
i'm going to start transferring money into my paypal now so I can donate to these guys once the unlock comes out.
And also regarding the HSPA+ (or HSUPA+?+) update we're supposed to get, I'm trying my hardest to forget about it because I'd feel I'm setting myself up for a big letdown.
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nerdgasm!
i'm going to start transferring money into my paypal now so I can donate to these guys once the unlock comes out.
And also regarding the HSPA+ (or HSUPA+?+) update we're supposed to get, I'm trying my hardest to forget about it because I'd feel I'm setting myself up for a big letdown.
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same here! ... the guy who'll unlock the atrix's bootloader is gonna get a lot of lov€ from me
I think the 2700 dollar bounty is motivation lol. The devs are definitely hard at work on the bootloader. Only had the phone a month an a half and Im content so far but in a year I'm sure we'll all start getting antsy for some new more hardcore devices that's when custom ROMs and overclocking will quench our thirst lol
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Anyone know where Da_G disappeared to? Haven't heard anything from him for a quite a bit now.
If I'm not mistaken I think I saw him in the IRC channel today. Haven't seen any posts from him lately tho. Maybe he's cooking up some goodness
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Actually, the Atrix's irc channel is very active and devs are working on the bootloader (kholk even stated that he has a method to unlock/bypass it, but he's away until the 2nd of May, so he'll probably test/finish/whatever it when he returns).
I think that devs tend not to post their smaller ideas on the forums now, but rather discuss them on irc as the forums got quite messy with lots of off topic crap...
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you made me the happiest person alive. 2 weeks, meh whatever. at least we know its close.
vin791 said:
you made me the happiest person alive. 2 weeks, meh whatever. at least we know its close.
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No expectations, no disappointments my dear
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Anyone know where Da_G disappeared to? Haven't heard anything from him for a quite a bit now.
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I remember that someone said said Da_G is facing some personal issues...
its a scare the way the Xoom was..is it encrypted bootloader? or is it just a locked bootloader? there is a difference..and at the last minute the Xoom was not released with encrypted bootloader. so i bet my money its not gonna be encrypted..first 3d phone ever?? come on theyre not dumb. just my opinion!
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If its launching June 4th, they're probably not going to change anything about it now. The phones are probably on their way from China to the US right now.
I'm hoping something'll leak, which stuff seems to do when it comes to HTC and Sprint.
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If its launching June 4th, they're probably not going to change anything about it now. The phones are probably on their way from China to the US right now.
I'm hoping something'll leak, which stuff seems to do when it comes to HTC and Sprint.
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Yes, a leak would be awesome!
It is encrypted. Check the EVO 3D forum. This is the EVO 4G forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1096
Come on over and help fight the cause!
Yes! No!
Oh no, it leaked on my pants!
Seriously though, if the 3D is coming out as soon as it looks, then the bootloader is a done deal. However, that doesn't exclude the possibility of a leak for the engineering build so that the bootloader keys can be spoofed.
Even if HTC does intend to release some sort of way of unlocking and modifying the bootloader (pretty damn unlikely), it's still going to happen on a longer timescale than this.
wow..you mention evo 3d and immediate responses..lmfao..now i know what a drug dealer feels like
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now htc says theyre not locking devices....please see OP lmao i wouldve won my bet!!!!!
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Yes! No!
Oh no, it leaked on my pants!
Seriously though, if the 3D is coming out as soon as it looks, then the bootloader is a done deal. However, that doesn't exclude the possibility of a leak for the engineering build so that the bootloader keys can be spoofed.
Even if HTC does intend to release some sort of way of unlocking and modifying the bootloader (pretty damn unlikely), it's still going to happen on a longer timescale than this.
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My understanding is that they left the door open to change it. It's software and would just be a matter of sending out an OTA.
Swyped from my HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
Still on this subject smh.....
cant post the link but the news is on android police
how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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when was the launch day released or confirmed ?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ve-an-unlocked-bootloader-one-way-or-another/
Man. I can't express enough how happy I am with HTC. If this decision holds, and it looks likely, I doubt I'll ever buy another brand. I love Sense but, I love being able to customize and personalize Sense ...
MAJOR Kudos to HTC!
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how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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via OTA update when phone is activated . . .
SteveGrandRapids said:
via OTA update when phone is activated . . .
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Don't feed the troll, seriously.
Always been an htc fan since the htc touch vogue. All this just shows they're a customer first company. Bout the only one I can actually think of. Hell you cant even get a burger and fries anymore without running into company haggles.
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how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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Why does the person with the nexus keep trolling the evo forums?
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I'm lovin it... was kind of surprised that they listened
please don't like HTC more than before, realize that they were going to do something that you didn't like/want and then changed their mind, I disrespect them for that, I will purchase their products but they still get a red mark in my satisfaction book
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please don't like HTC more than before, realize that they were going to do something that you didn't like/want and then changed their mind, I disrespect them for that, I will purchase their products but they still get a red mark in my satisfaction book
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Oh turn your frown upside down
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Since their unlocking the bootloader does this mean NAND and everything is unlocked liked the OG Evo?
shouldn't this be in the 3D forum? besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises
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shouldn't this be in the 3D forum? besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises
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Thanks. A bootloader conspiracy you say?...
Take the BLUE PILL.
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besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises
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No.
The Sensation has the same encryption and that was released, with the encryption, 8 days ago.
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No.
The Sensation has the same encryption and that was released, with the encryption, 8 days ago.
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Ahh a hole in the conspiracy theory. Is Lloyd hiding in the grassy knoll?
Seriously, you guys can be upset with HTC but, they could have gave some generic reason as to why they are locking their phones and eventually things would have died down. They wouldn't have really suffered from it.
Instead, they went in the other direction. I give them credit for that. All this does is keep me as a customer.
Setting a nice precedent here!
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Here's the link, for anyone who hasn't seen it:
HTC CEO Confirms EVO 3D Will Have An Unlocked Bootloader One Way Or Another
Personally, I'm glad to hear it straight from him. Yeah, it will likely be an OTA, or an unlock tool, but this news reaffirmed my intentions to buy an E3D...which were shaky still even after the announcement yesterday.
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Since their unlocking the bootloader does this mean NAND and everything is unlocked liked the OG Evo?
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Yes, sir. Absolutely. This means devs will be able to cook roms, kernels and any other goodies we are enjoying on the current Evo......and more.
Evo will get a update second quarter soon confirmed from HTC also they said they will post a list of phones that will not be locked. Some still are.
Im always reading on here and people keep asking where the 2.3 root is and wondering if the devs have abandoned the Supersonic EVO 4G. Here is what I have gathered in regards to both of those questions.
The devs are working on the EVO3D to provide the community with root access on that device. From what I've gathered there are many things in the process that are similar to the Supersonic EVO 4G and some that are not. They have stated that they have Temp root available already and the Temp root should be sticky (Permanent) by the end of this week. I don't own an EVO3D so this doesn't mean much to me personally but what it does mean is that once the root becomes sticky for the EVO3D that we can look forward to there being more activity on the Supersonic EVO 4G forum. The devs haven't forgot about the Supersonic EVO 4G. Just be patient.
For more information go here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
well atleast in november i get the reduced price for the evo 3d!
After reading everyone's side by side comparison, I don't see the point in buying a 3D. I'm hopeful for a new 4G root soon!
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After reading everyone's side by side comparison, I don't see the point in buying a 3D. I'm hopeful for a new 4G root soon!
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Me either.
its kinda sad we have to wait to root to fix what Sprint Borked
dont say its Googles/htc etc problem
I bought my handset from sprint and i PAY SPRINT therefore it is Sprints fault
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its kinda sad we have to wait to root to fix what Sprint Borked
dont say its Googles/htc etc problem
I bought my handset from sprint and i PAY SPRINT therefore it is Sprints fault
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I don't agree with that. Sprint doesn't develop phones; they offer service. So to blame Sprint for hardware problems (HTC) or for software problems (Android/Google) is unreasonable. I mean you can call up Sprint and stress your point but your not going to get anything done in a timely fashion.
but who has the final say on the updates its the carrier! it is just hard to believe that with all the problems with the GB update Sprint/Google/HTC and anyone else is turning a deaf ear and blind eye.I could care less about root I just want my handset to work the way it did before the updates. that is all im asking for i know it will never happen ..
sorry for the rant ....Dont post much here but read and search ALOT
you make it sound like there are only a couple devs for the EVO and they have all abandoned it for the EVO3D. I guarantee you only a fraction of the people who have been working on the EVO have a 3D now. It's not like everyone jumped ship.
It tooks months to root the last update right? Give it some freaking time people.
i am gonna give it time and I have no choice and even offered some $$ to someone who can do it ... I am not that tech savy.... Ill go into my corner and wait patently
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i am gonna give it time and I have no choice and even offered some $$ to someone who can do it ... I am not that tech savy.... Ill go into my corner and wait patently
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Same here
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you make it sound like there are only a couple devs for the EVO and they have all abandoned it for the EVO3D. I guarantee you only a fraction of the people who have been working on the EVO have a 3D now. It's not like everyone jumped ship.
It tooks months to root the last update right? Give it some freaking time people.
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Exactly. I really think it will be rooted soon enough. The 3d is being worked on but even with all the work, HTC still needs to unlock it. They said they would unlock bootloaders for future phones but never specifically said the Evo3d or the Sensation.
I wonder what will happen if for some reason HTC decides not to do anything and people get stuck with the Evo3d that is unrootable. Too risky for me. At least we know our phone has been rooted many times.
There is no such thing as 'un-rootable'...
Comparing my wife's now unrooted Evo (thanks to a new refurb) side by side with my 3d....The 3d kills the OG Evo. That being said.....I still prefer her rooted Evo 4G over my stock Evo 3d.........Patiently waiting to root both. I'm sure it will be done. Both phones still have huge communities.
I wonder if we got together a bounty maybe it would be paid a bit more attention. I got a.replacement last week and its driving me crazy not being rooted. I really miss cm7 and I'm eager to try a few other roms. Considering I'm about to buy a used rooted EVO for the time being id rather donate to a developer instead. I have no problem paying someone for their.skill if I .don't have it. Hell I bought easy tether pro for $10 cause my EVO is my only internet access .
Ill throw 5 in
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There is no such thing as 'un-rootable'...
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someone still has to figure it out. If noone can put together the puzzle then its practically un rootable.
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I wonder if we got together a bounty maybe it would be paid a bit more attention...
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I'll throw in $20 non-CC PayPal
The devs are awesome. As impatient as I am with HTC, I admire those devs even more. I can wait, even if I don't want to!
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you make it sound like there are only a couple devs for the EVO and they have all abandoned it for the EVO3D. I guarantee you only a fraction of the people who have been working on the EVO have a 3D now. It's not like everyone jumped ship.
It tooks months to root the last update right? Give it some freaking time people.
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I'm sure there are people that are working on the EVO but I can't find a thread or post that supports that so untill someone says that they are working on it and are actively updating the community with the process I'm going to look towards the EVO3D for info.
It will come, like the many of you. I'm just sitting back waiting...
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I'm sure there are people that are working on the EVO but I can't find a thread or post that supports that so untill someone says that they are working on it and are actively updating the community with the process I'm going to look towards the EVO3D for info.
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This. There is a lot of hopeful talk about being patient and exactly zero information about anyone working on the 4G. I hope I'm wrong, but for now it just reads like wishful thinking by those of us without the ability to root since the GB OTA (thanks HTC).