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Yet another Sprint 2.1 Rumor

Just saw this pop up on my news reader figured I would share. Lets hope it is true
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/04/01/htc-hero-android-2-1-release-from-sprint-updated/

zippy-man said:
Just saw this pop up on my news reader figured I would share. Lets hope it is true
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Yeah... I saw that. Little skeptical though because once you trace the source back to handhelditems they say someone got that info from a webchat with Sprint. We all know to think twice about those! lol It does seem to line up with that April 9th update that's been floating around though. Who knows...

Hopefully this is true and not another april fools prank. It was about a week-week and a half ago they rumored it would release in the coming weeks. Fingers crossed.................

With all the sprint leaks we have been getting I think it might be getting close.
But who knows

I already have it thanks damage

good, it's about time, tired of watching people get LEAKS and then not sharing the source...

obelisk79 said:
good, it's about time, tired of watching people get LEAKS and then not sharing the source...
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don't worry, Sprint will just repackage one of the XDA roms as their own and use it as the official update

ive said it once ill say it again the april 9th update is a maintenance release to fix mms issues not 2.1

sprint hasnt told us anything beyond that

any new news on an "official" release date? im hearing either the 9th or 26th of this month? i don't get why sprint is soo tight lipped about this?
also when is the nexus & evo launching on sprint?

no ONE cares anymore
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^^^^^^^^^^
says who ?

rank78 said:
don't worry, Sprint will just repackage one of the XDA roms as their own and use it as the official update
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Once every single bug has been worked out of DamageControl, Sprint will pull it off XDA and release it.

Sporkman said:
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says who ?
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+1 i care very much tbh. id also like to know why they have not given us a firm release date for the nexus & evo.

mrinehart93 said:
Once every single bug has been worked out of DamageControl, Sprint will pull it off XDA and release it.
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with alot of tweaking to do after the initial install, yes your right.
i hope when the final comes out and we get custom roms, we won't have to apply any fixes. this is one reason im back to 1.5 for now. i have faith in the devs here, they do great work!

Why do we keep creating threads on this issue. It is a waste of space. It will come when Sprint is ready to release it. They have never given an exact date. People get so pissed because they haven't sent an update. Well guess what. When you bought your phone it had 1.5. They are not required to update it to 2.1. Either use a custom ROM or shut up and wait until it comes out.Then when it comes on don't get on here complaining about how crappy the release is.
I have Fresh 2.0d and it is working very well.
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Shut up and wait
Running: Fresh2.0d
Developing:WarpedMetal (T minus 2 weeks)

Just got out of a sprint chat. this is what they're saying

honestly no thread can "waste space" as well we have plenty of it. I wasn't complaining nor *****ing about it. I am more happy with the legend based roms then the leaked Sprint roms but when the official Rom hits it will help with more development to fix issues and get faster roms out there. honestly if you don't like these threads the easy thing to do is stay out of them. no one is forcing anyone to read the forum or a certain posts. forums are for talking that is there main and only reason for existing.
damn I hate trolls.
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Wow, that's interesting, I dont know whether to believe it or believe the support guy/gal was confused by the question and didnt know how to answer, so he/she just gave something generic

chirag2f4u said:
Wow, that's interesting, I dont know whether to believe it or believe the support guy/gal was confused by the question and didnt know how to answer, so he/she just gave something generic
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Does Sprint use any automated responses on the chat support? I know there's quite a few companies that do, the program just selects a basic response to generic questions about that subject, and it seems like the responses that are given by these reports are way too "computery" to be coming from a human. So I'm guessing that the system Sprint's chat support uses has a list of responses pop up based on key words in the client's question.
Probably way off base, but it'd almost make sense based on how similar the responses are in all these chat transcripts.

Bootloader And Android 2.4

Hello,
I am planing on the Atrix for august when I will be in the US,
And I wonder- do you think the Bootloader will be cracked untill then?
Or Motorola Unlock it/ update to- 2.4?
Thank You,
Daniel

No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.

Diviance said:
No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
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I wanted to know as well...
Sigh, August is way to long...

wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...

they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick

Not really pessimistic, just neutral. We can make guesses but there is no way to be certain the loader will be broken or whether motorola will give up and unsign it. They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.

danielel said:
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
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Well thats sucks.
2.3 doesn't bring any important changes, and it does take time to make the update.
waste of time..
well it just means that if the devs here won't get to bootloader hacked the milestone story will be back.

oFUNGUSo said:
they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
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Ya what happened to them, that thread was booming with new posts every day and randomly it just stopped
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Diviance said:
They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
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Who cares about 2.3? 2.4 is what everyone's after...
GPU-accelerated UI and Browser
Built-in Gtalk video chat support
Multi-language browser support
And as Matias Duarte implied, all the Honeycomb design changes will be in 2.4
So who cares about 2.3? Not me. If the Atrix isn't released unsigned in Canada, and unless the XDA hacks it, I will be going for the Nexus S, and sticking with the Nexus line for the next few years...

Hard to speak about 2.4, as we don't have much of a clue about it. But loading custom kernels and the like is really making me re-think the decision about buying the Atrix...

Not to be a downer in this thread, but I wouldn't hold your breath for the unlocked bootloader, but it is nice that some fresh minds are going at it.
With that said, the devs for the D2 and DX have been able to set the users up with a good amount of customization.
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oh man I will be in Canada for 4 days...I hoped maybe it would be unlocked there.
well I guess I'll just have to check it later...
thank you every one

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992326
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?!
HE GOT A WAY TO PASS THE BOOTLOADER!!!!
HOPE HE WILL PUBLISH A WAY TO PASS IT SOON!!!

Its still being tested but DA G has had some success. No one else has posted anything else. I think the reason the bootloader thread has been quiet is because there in an irc were they can talk easier. We prob wont hear anythkng new until they have made some progress. I'm just glad we have the sbf file. That's a big step. Ill be happy if we can get motoblur removed.
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Tmobile G2 is done but lets keep this going!

Honestly guys. Lets keep this support going regardless! Too many awesome developers giving us great things. donate. do anything possible for them. It's sad that T-Mobile decided after 7 months.. to just end a device that actually was a GREAT device. And honestly should be kept around for longer than that. (I'm sure a lot of us paid 250.00 for it with 2 year contract) I hope as a loving XDA Developer member and many others we can keep this going. I'm rather concerned what will happen in the future with this device on the development side of things. It's a good device and I know in the world of technology things to age very very fast. but maybe we can keep this around for longer than t mobile wants..
Much respect.. XDA guy dude of sorts.

This belongs in general.

Yes it does. But why not let the developers see this? I'd like to hear most of the developers opinions..

Because this is not what the developer forum is for and I really doubt devs are going to pack up and ship out because T-Mo isn't retailing the phone anymore.

Hot_Hands said:
Because this is not what the developer forum is for and I really doubt devs are going to pack up and ship out because T-Mo isn't retailing the phone anymore.
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I agree and hope this is the case. There are already a ton of us with the G2/DZ and it isn't a big deal if they take it off the shelves. All of you who have it now can just keep it going. I realize the concern with warranty replacement and such, but other than that I see no reason why this is such a big deal. We all know it's a fantastic device, who cares if T-mo doesn't realize that and discontinues it. Our DZ's still will most likely get the software updates you G2 owners won't get, and the DZ version can just be rooted and put on your G2's. There's no reason to freak out and buy a new phone if you have the G2.

slapshot30 said:
I agree and hope this is the case. There are already a ton of us with the G2/DZ and it isn't a big deal if they take it off the shelves. All of you who have it now can just keep it going. I realize the concern with warranty replacement and such, but other than that I see no reason why this is such a big deal. We all know it's a fantastic device, who cares if T-mo doesn't realize that and discontinues it. Our DZ's still will most likely get the software updates you G2 owners won't get, and the DZ version can just be rooted and put on your G2's. There's no reason to freak out and buy a new phone if you have the G2.
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The T-mobile G2 is still going to get the Gingerbread update....just wanted to throw that out there.

you guys should check out the g1 forums. a few of the devs there still update ocasionally. I don't think development for this device will stop anytime soon (however the g1 did have lots of small developers as opposed to just a few big ones)

G1ForFun said:
The T-mobile G2 is still going to get the Gingerbread update....just wanted to throw that out there.
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Haha thankyou, I know that. I'm talking about beyond gingerbread. Definitely not getting anything past gingerbread on a discontinued device.

Yes it is.. but further down the road is my concern.
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Lol the g1 has a port of gingerbread and honeycomb. Worry no more.
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slapshot30 said:
Haha thankyou, I know that. I'm talking about beyond gingerbread. Definitely not getting anything past gingerbread on a discontinued device.
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Not from the official sources, but I bet we'll get community Ice Cream roms

I dont see development ending anytime soon as stated before the G1 and MyTouch3g have Gingerbread and the Devs are still working on the roms for those phones so Im sure the devs will still support our phones for awhile

What exactly is being developed in this thread?

arich said:
What exactly is being developed in this thread?
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My rage against people who post in the wrong section.

TheDeadCpu said:
My rage against people who post in the wrong section.
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Well why not move it to correct forum then?? lol
I've moved it across to General

@TDC & Spartan You guys are dorks...and @TDC - I am the only one that can use that line round here

2.3 Root: Where we are.

First, this isn't a post about how to get root on 2.3. I know, at present, it is not possible. I know, I have tried pretty much every method imaginable
Anyway:
Where are we? I've heard rumors that S-off is coming from unreoked, alpharev x, team win will be coming "any day." Yeah, I'll believe it when I get it.
But, I think we are at the point where we are at HTC and Sprint's mercy. I mean, are we at the point where we are going to have to beg sprint and or HTC, to put S-OFF, or, somewhat more realistically, unlock the bootloader (or at least provide an RUU to downgrade?).
Anyway: Just discuss what you think about the plausibility of rooting the 2.3 release, and if we will ever see a free EVO. I am, sadly stuck on 2.3, as I didn't think about rooting, or know anything about it, until after I took the OTA .

Flame on! #johnnystorm

Is there a way to delete post instead of editing?

This isn't another one of those posts claiming to not be one of those posts about the locked bootloader that has been posted more than enough?
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COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
--http://twitter.com/
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......

I don't think we're stuck at Spint's/HTC's mercy. We're just further down the priority list of the devs. That's fine, its the nature of technology. As STG posted, Alpharev and unrevoked are posting something tonight. That could be a universal GB crack (hope!) or it could be a rooted 3d/Sensation. Either way, OG Evo is moving up on the priority list. Its an old phone, but hardly forgotten.

SGTSTEW75 said:
COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
--http://twitter.com/
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......
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Damn You, You beat me.
http://revolutionary.io/

I hope that it really is a root for gb. stock rom is killing me.
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HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.

nYdGeo said:
HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.
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If I recall HTC's statement correctly, they said the 3vo and the sensation would receive the updates first and then in September they would unlock phones that have recently been locked down...I believe the og evo is on that list.
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If that "Something Revolutionary" is root for Evo Gingerbread, I will be voluntary slave to the devs for five years... Okay, maybe not, but Paypal donation, without question.
You guys are doing truly heroic work.
I still think it is obnoxious that Android phones (which ironically, is the "open" platform), have become more locked down. I am glad to see that HTC and other companies are starting to realize that this stuff is important. I think that it is at least a big step forward. I do believe HTC will follow through on their promise, at least for future phones. I don't think that they'd go back on their word. I'm just optimistic like that .
This "later today" thing is killing me. See; Now I am going to be on that page hitting F5 every couple minutes for the rest of the day .
Yea, yeah, I know: No ETAs.
Best of luck to all

Why the ICS secrecy?

So after years of enjoying xda anonymously I had to ask: why the sudden secrecy about the ICS leak for the Atrix 4G?
I've been enjoying xda for my Bionic and over 'there' (lol) we don't care. If there is a leak we all go crazy and post howto's and upload it to a dozen fileshare sites, share info and just go buck ass wild.
Over the past couple of days I noticed there was a thread about a leak, then it got deleted, and ever since then it's "That ROM" and everyone is anal about providing info about it. What's the big deal? Really. Someone explain it.
I would love to get an ICS leak for my wife's Atrix 4G. She's having so much trouble with cellular data and Wifi it would be like a new phone to her.
I just went back to stock on my Bionic to wait for a soak test OTA for ICS I was invited for. If it works as well as the leak I've been running for months I'll be happy as a slinky on an escalator (sorry, had to use that one. It's from a US commercial and cracks me up).
So, what's the big deal with the secrecy?

The problem with XDA is perpetual misinformation.
Thread got deleted. People jumped to conclusions, thought it must be Motorola or some other company. Now everyone thinks if they keep it all "hush hush" that they won't realise people are bug testing and developing on the leak lol
The other day people got pissy and suspicious when someone who's been here for years (but only posted recently, sorta like how i started here) because he asked for AT&T APK's and logs (plaintext, anyone could comb through for personal info and remove it before sending).

Joel CTCPRep
coolnow said:
The problem with XDA is perpetual misinformation.
Thread got deleted. People jumped to conclusions, thought it must be Motorola or some other company. Now everyone thinks if they keep it all "hush hush" that they won't realise people are bug testing and developing on the leak lol
The other day people got pissy and suspicious when someone who's been here for years (but only posted recently, sorta like how i started here) because he asked for AT&T APK's and logs (plaintext, anyone could comb through for personal info and remove it before sending).
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I SAW THAT .. that was hilarious. I was really close to comment about that in my first post; something like "Don't worry, I promise I'm no undercover spook from Apple" (since they own the Atrix's fingerprint reader company now). Bringing Apple in here would have really stirred up some ****
I guess I'll wait until things die down and get organized. My wife doesn't like me messing with her phone so I need to get it right the first time lol

Initially there was a mis-understanding due to lack of information, people assumed and inferred too much from epinter's thread removal. Whether or not the paranoia is justified, fact remains that epinter wanted his thread removed and that some company wanted the leak hushed in XDA although they did not do it via the right channels.
Now I think it became the defacto standard to call the leak 'that rom', not due to paranoia but because people are familiar with that name. Its quite cool too, adds a story to our beloved phone.

We are all masons. That's why.

It wasn't apple. It was Microsoft . The sent a dozen ninjas bearing swords coated with a special toxin distilled from a rare variety of cease and desist notice only found growing in the shadow of Steve Jobs's grave stone.
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eddhard said:
It wasn't apple. It was Microsoft . The sent a dozen ninjas bearing swords coated with a special toxin distilled from a rare variety of cease and desist notice only found growing in the shadow of Steve Jobs's grave stone.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the pinnacle of XDA humour.

Leakes are risky business for noods and thread was closed dur to same reason by OP. Thats all not a secret if u try to read more.
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balintmaci said:
pst. a mod said actually said that there were copyright issues with the firmware and they were deciding if it should be taken down.
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...may be THEY hope people forced to buy new device......are they crazy???????? after this BS no more MOTO at least for me....

You guys have reading comprehension issues. Kennethpenn didn't say who it was, except that it *wasn't* Motorola.
Epinter took his thread down on his own, unrelated to any communications about the ROM.
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stewartsoda said:
You guys have reading comprehension issues. Kennethpenn didn't say who it was, except that it *wasn't* Motorola.
Epinter took his thread down on his own, unrelated to any communications about the ROM.
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People see what they want to see. People jump to conclusions. People repeat these assumptions so often that they morph into "the truth". People are idiots.
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MJPollard said:
People see what they want to see. People jump to conclusions. People repeat these assumptions so often that they morph into "the truth". People are idiots.
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Yes. Only you know what is really going on. Only you are smart. But you won't be sued. You are anonymous but the board is not and I don't think they have enough money to go against software companies.
Be reasonable.

duchski said:
Yes. Only you know what is really going on. Only you are smart.
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I do often think that I'm one of the few here who has a lick of common sense. But I guess it's easier to go with the smart-ass answer than admit you may be part of the problem, eh?
duchski said:
But you won't be sued. You are anonymous but the board is not and I don't think they have enough money to go against software companies.
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Interesting. Now, back to what I was actually talking about, re: people making baseless assumptions and running with them until they become convinced it's "the truth" (and presenting it as unsubstantiated fact). Any opinions on that, sir?
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Be reasonable.
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Says the person who won't even discuss the issue I brought up, who instead tries to deflect the issue by talking about something else? Okay, sure.

Atrix ICS/JB over due!!
Atrix deserves an ICS update!! Love this Phone.
Personally I feel that the community should set an example by creating a stable ICS/JB build for the phone.

bhasin.gagan said:
Atrix deserves an ICS update!! Love this Phone.
Personally I feel that the community should set an example by creating a stable ICS/JB build for the phone.
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You're new here, but don't ever expect anything from the community. They "should"? No, they shouldn't do anything, they don't owe you or me anything. Be happy with what they're already done.

SCFirefighter said:
I would love to get an ICS leak for my wife's Atrix 4G.
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Forgive my sense of humour...
If your wife insisting on ICS then the easiest solution is divorcing her, otherwise your marriage is safe in spite of her Atrix ownership.
A working ICS ROM is not going to happen from any ROM leaks unless Motorola finishs cooking the ROM. The support of ICS ROM by XDA members would be an issue, at least for me.

CSharpHeaven said:
Forgive my sense of humour...
If your wife insisting on ICS then the easiest solution is divorcing her, otherwise your marriage is safe in spite of her Atrix ownership.
A working ICS ROM is not going to happen from any ROM leaks unless Motorola finishs cooking the ROM. The support of ICS ROM by XDA members would be an issue, at least for me.
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is realy good answer

CSharpHeaven said:
Forgive my sense of humour...
If your wife insisting on ICS then the easiest solution is divorcing her, otherwise your marriage is safe in spite of her Atrix ownership.
A working ICS ROM is not going to happen from any ROM leaks unless Motorola finishs cooking the ROM. The support of ICS ROM by XDA members would be an issue, at least for me.
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Cooking????? ROM??????
And why would a Firmware supported by xda developers be a problem for you?
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Lol. My wife doesn't care what she runs but she has horrible issues with cellular data stability. I had too with my Bionic before I installed an ICS leak. That's why I'm banking on this leak.
I don't know the state of this leak, but if it is anything like the Bionic leaks it's good enough.
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jeffreygtab said:
You're new here, but don't ever expect anything from the community. They "should"? No, they shouldn't do anything, they don't owe you or me anything. Be happy with what they're already done.
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And if you ever feel the community should do something, set up an example and... do it then share with others.