Hello,
I am planing on the Atrix for august when I will be in the US,
And I wonder- do you think the Bootloader will be cracked untill then?
Or Motorola Unlock it/ update to- 2.4?
Thank You,
Daniel
No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
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No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
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I wanted to know as well...
Sigh, August is way to long...
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
Not really pessimistic, just neutral. We can make guesses but there is no way to be certain the loader will be broken or whether motorola will give up and unsign it. They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
danielel said:
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
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Well thats sucks.
2.3 doesn't bring any important changes, and it does take time to make the update.
waste of time..
well it just means that if the devs here won't get to bootloader hacked the milestone story will be back.
oFUNGUSo said:
they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
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Ya what happened to them, that thread was booming with new posts every day and randomly it just stopped
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Diviance said:
They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
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Who cares about 2.3? 2.4 is what everyone's after...
GPU-accelerated UI and Browser
Built-in Gtalk video chat support
Multi-language browser support
And as Matias Duarte implied, all the Honeycomb design changes will be in 2.4
So who cares about 2.3? Not me. If the Atrix isn't released unsigned in Canada, and unless the XDA hacks it, I will be going for the Nexus S, and sticking with the Nexus line for the next few years...
Hard to speak about 2.4, as we don't have much of a clue about it. But loading custom kernels and the like is really making me re-think the decision about buying the Atrix...
Not to be a downer in this thread, but I wouldn't hold your breath for the unlocked bootloader, but it is nice that some fresh minds are going at it.
With that said, the devs for the D2 and DX have been able to set the users up with a good amount of customization.
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oh man I will be in Canada for 4 days...I hoped maybe it would be unlocked there.
well I guess I'll just have to check it later...
thank you every one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992326
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?!
HE GOT A WAY TO PASS THE BOOTLOADER!!!!
HOPE HE WILL PUBLISH A WAY TO PASS IT SOON!!!
Its still being tested but DA G has had some success. No one else has posted anything else. I think the reason the bootloader thread has been quiet is because there in an irc were they can talk easier. We prob wont hear anythkng new until they have made some progress. I'm just glad we have the sbf file. That's a big step. Ill be happy if we can get motoblur removed.
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Here are a few quotes from good ol birdman-
KeithBlak Keith Black
@_mrbirdman_ Mr. Sir, everyone has been real quiet about the dX bootloader, and it seems some are giving up. Is there still hope?
_mrbirdman_ Stephen Bird
@KeithBlak There is hope....just you wait and see
_mrbirdman_ Stephen Bird
Im not quitting work on the Dx, I'm just not releasing anything for it until a certain thing gets released.
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Many of you were already aware that birdman was up to something interesting. I am posting this to reinforce hope in our small Droid X Community. Good things are just over the horizon.
I just want 2.1 back. I should have read further before stupidly, and blindly, just upgrading to the OTA because I could. I really hope this is what is being worked on.
he is waiting for the 2.2 sbf to modify the bootloader.. but with motorola keeping it close to chest, its hard to get a hold of.. SOMEONE SEND IT TO HIM!!
He tweeted a lone tweet last night, "certain thing". Sounds like he may have obtained the Samuel Bravo Foxtrot! Let's hope for some news soon.
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He tweeted a lone tweet last night, "certain thing". Sounds like he may have obtained the Samuel Bravo Foxtrot! Let's hope for some news soon.
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i think we need to refer to it as such for now on..
I WANT THE NEW "Sierra Bravo Foxtrot"!!
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He tweeted a lone tweet last night, "certain thing". Sounds like he may have obtained the Samuel Bravo Foxtrot! Let's hope for some news soon.
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That would be awesome.
What is it that everyone is looking for?? I like the OTA and what I can do with it.
Yeah.. I can't mess with the kernel or bootloader... but I rarely do that anyway. What I do on a normal basis.. can already be done.
MrDanger said:
What is it that everyone is looking for?? I like the OTA and what I can do with it.
Yeah.. I can't mess with the kernel or bootloader... but I rarely do that anyway. What I do on a normal basis.. can already be done.
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Everyone is looking for phone customization. What may be fine for you may not be even close to enough for others.
Does anyone know the IRC channel birdman uses? I would love to offer assistance in the cracking of the bootloader in any way I can...
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Everyone is looking for phone customization. What may be fine for you may not be even close to enough for others.
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This I understand... I was asking what more phone customization was ppl looking for?
dekend said:
i think we need to refer to it as such for now on..
I WANT THE NEW "Sierra Bravo Foxtrot"!!
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For the life of me I could not remember "Sierra" - so I went with "Samuel". Sierra Bravo Foxtrot - much better.
As to,
What more customizations could people want?
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How about the removal of blur? Or the simple ability to flash a vanilla Android 2.2 the way Google designed it?
Not a biggie foe me- but there is a lot more people could want.
thepolishguy said:
How about the removal of blur? Or the simple ability to flash a vanilla Android 2.2 the way Google designed it?
Not a biggie foe me- but there is a lot more people could want.
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Eh, his point is you can already do that, and in his defense, he is pretty much right. However, we cannot modify the kernel, and thus cannot have a true Rom, this is something I would like to be able to do.
Once the bootloader is unlocked/bypassed we will then be able to have true built from source Rom's/Kernels and unlock the true potential of the DX. Cyanogen has said he will support the Droid X/2 once its unlocked, CCR is already building an AOSP Rom but with the Moto kernel for obvious reasons so there is hope on the horizon. A leak of the "Sierra Bravo Foxtrot" will be found, then the fun begins for everyone as we will all have a way back to safety.
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Eh, his point is you can already do that, and in his defense, he is pretty much right. However, we cannot modify the kernel, and thus cannot have a true Rom, this is something I would like to be able to do.
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Once the bootloader is unlocked/bypassed we will then be able to have true built from source Rom's/Kernels and unlock the true potential of the DX. Cyanogen has said he will support the Droid X/2 once its unlocked, CCR is already building an AOSP Rom but with the Moto kernel for obvious reasons so there is hope on the horizon. A leak of the "Sierra Bravo Foxtrot" will be found, then the fun begins for everyone as we will all have a way back to safety.
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That's what I was looking for.
So to sum it up:
We can already customize the Droid X like any other android phone on the market (remove bloatware, theme frameworks, play with root priveleges, etc)... but some ppl are wanting more.
The ppl that are wanting more... are wanting to get to the brains (kernel & bootloader) so they can build a ROM from scratch, get some CM lovin, TRUE overclocking, BF scheduling, UV'ing, TRUE recovery, etc.
I understand that... and always understood it lol. I just always wondered why I saw so many posts asking for things that can already be done.. and have been.
Not to sound ignorant, but why is the 2.2 SBF so hard to come by?? Dosent every Verizon store in the Nation have the 2.2 SBF file in there tech support department? You think it would of been leaked by now considering the people guarding the worlds secrets are run of the mill, 12 dollers an hour verizon workers in every store you go in
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Not to sound ignorant, but why is the 2.2 SBF so hard to come by?? Dosent every Verizon store in the Nation have the 2.2 SBF file in there tech support department? You think it would of been leaked by now considering the people guarding the worlds secrets are run of the mill, 12 dollers an hour verizon workers in every store you go in
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A. most of us work for Flextronics not VZW. B. make a lot more than 12 dollars per hour. C. The SBF is not on any of our PSTs, if it was you would have it.
Joe92T said:
Not to sound ignorant, but why is the 2.2 SBF so hard to come by?? Dosent every Verizon store in the Nation have the 2.2 SBF file in there tech support department? You think it would of been leaked by now considering the people guarding the worlds secrets are run of the mill, 12 dollers an hour verizon workers in every store you go in
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Motorola has a team searching the intertubes (internet) for any mention of a leaked Sierra Bravo Foxtrot and have had their lawyers send them nice cease emails to both the poster and the fourm owners warning them to remove the links and delete any uploaded software.. I have had 1 thread deleted from here just because i asked for it..
hope that explains it.
edit: I didnt mention this before.. but it was already leaked twice.. and taken down twice.
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Motorola has a team searching the intertubes (internet) for any mention of a leaked Sierra Bravo Foxtrot and have had their lawyers send them nice cease emails to both the poster and the fourm owners warning them to remove the links and delete any uploaded software.. I have had 1 thread deleted from here just because i asked for it..
hope that explains it.
edit: I didnt mention this before.. but it was already leaked twice.. and taken down twice.
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You'd think it would be on rapidshare or something by now if that was the case. I find it really hard to believe that 2.2 sbf has been leaked at all.
Do a google search for "droid x 2.2 sbf" and look at your first couple hits.. you will see that the moderators have removed the posts because of threats they received from motorola.
as for improving our chances of finding it we need the actual file name..
Get the file name and we have just up'd our chances by 10x.
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You'd think it would be on rapidshare or something by now if that was the case. I find it really hard to believe that 2.2 sbf has been leaked at all.
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The SEMI-2.2 SBF is leaked out.. and still available. I never did see a FULL 2.2 SBF.
Figured id start a thread about it and people can chime in on what they know and what they want to know. Id like for someone to provide a link to what the up coming features are going to be and when its going to be released. I heard that its going to come out on monday the 6th and some of the features might include some more lime green and a market with music that can be purchased and also some sort of supported video chat. Any truth to this would be cool but I can't confirm anything. I know verizon usually comes out with some kind of sheet to tell users what will be included and I haven't found it yet so if anyone has information that'd be nice to share with the people here on xda.
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Figured id start a thread about it and people can chime in on what they know and what they want to know. Id like for someone to provide a link to what the up coming features are going to be and when its going to be released. I heard that its going to come out on monday the 6th and some of the features might include some more lime green and a market with music that can be purchased and also some sort of supported video chat. Any truth to this would be cool but I can't confirm anything. I know verizon usually comes out with some kind of sheet to tell users what will be included and I haven't found it yet and I heard its coming out tomorrow so if anyone has information that'd be nice to share with the people on xda.
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I highly doubt it will be out tomorrow. And even if it is out tomorrow, it will be on the Nexus one. You should know by now all the updates come out to the Nexus phones first. Obviously it might not be too long after that for us to get it but we've gotta wait for Google's star child first.
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I highly doubt it will be out tomorrow. And even if it is out tomorrow, it will be on the Nexus one. You should know by now all the updates come out to the Nexus phones first. Obviously it might not be too long after that for us to get it but we've gotta wait for Google's star child first.
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yeah plus MOTO will want to make some crappy build with "ninja blur" which will take forever since they only care about the droid x so we'll have to wait a while unless you're rooted. Ports of stock 2.3 should probably be out sometime in the few weeks after it is released for el nexus uno
Not sure about sources and such but:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1930297/tablet-designer-claims-android-23-release
They announced its release this morning along with the Nexus S
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So I'm going to make a guess that getting Gingerbread onto the Droid2 is going to require a new kernel? In and of itself, Gingerbread uses a newer kernel than Froyo, and it seems like there are some significant improvements under the hood that may require kernel support. I suppose this could be verified by comparing the source code between the two releases.
So, barring someone hacking eFuse, I would guess that we aren't going to see Froyo until Motorola decides to release it. Hopefully I'm wrong here...
Cant wait till us Non nexus users get gingerbread
I saw somethig about a new nexus phone out on google, had gingerbread and gingerbread is out to the public now. Cant wait !!
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Cant wait till us Non nexus users get gingerbread
I saw somethig about a new nexus phone out on google, had gingerbread and gingerbread is out to the public now. Cant wait !!
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Thats a bit incorrect. Its not out to the public yet.
Sweet, now we only have to wait half a year while moto hacks blur into it to get it.
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Thats a bit incorrect. Its not out to the public yet.
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Not to be a douche but yea it is.
I really don't think it'll take too long for Gingerbread to come out. We've been running 2.2 for a while now. Other phones don't even have Froyo yet. I know they probably have to make it Blur compatible, but I really don't think it'll take too long to get.
If you are rooted you can install the keyboard. http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/download-gingerbread-keyboard-for-rooted-devices/
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I really don't think it'll take too long for Gingerbread to come out. We've been running 2.2 for a while now. Other phones don't even have Froyo yet. I know they probably have to make it Blur compatible, but I really don't think it'll take too long to get.
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This is Motorola we are talking about. It took them months to release 2.2 for the original DROID and that runs stock Android, they barely had to do any work to get it working.
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Not to be a douche but yea it is.
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Other than the SDK, I'm not aware of a running OS on any phones yet. Other than the few people in the world that already have a Nexus S.
The eris, hero, and a few others already have custom roms of gingerbread.
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Sweet, now we only have to wait half a year while moto hacks blur into it to get it.
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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2. I'll just keep my ear to the ground here in hopes of seeing it pop up in a ROM; maybe Matt will display his absolute mod-godhood and port it into Unleashed 4.0!
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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2. I'll just keep my ear to the ground here in hopes of seeing it pop up in a ROM; maybe Matt will display his absolute mod-godhood and port it into Unleashed 4.0!
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Problem is that the new update adds support to things not changable withouth unlocking the bootloader so we are kind of screwed unless something has changed. Or Motorola actually does something worth while.
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I doubt they'll even bother setting up 2.3 for the Droid 2.
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Lol. The OG Droid was updated all the way to Froyo. I'm pretty sure that the Droid2 will be updated.
It would be interesting if the OG Droid eventually gets updated past the Droid2 (by third parties, obviously).
Okay the bootloader hasn't been cracked but don't let that get you down because the great Dev's have been working on it and now there may even be a workaround.
Bin4ry has managed to get his own kernel to load with custom image included, and although at this early stage the touchscreen and usb don't work this is definitely 1 big step closer to opening up our beloved x10's
Update - custom kernal has been loaded and touch screens working, confirming the workaround
I changed the title to better reflect what's been done
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Wow, although I can't believe what I am reading if that is true...wow great news and thank you devs for your hard work
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good luck to our saviours =)
"almost" is such a big thing... maybe there are some other problems coming, when TS and USB are fixed...
i hope i'm wrong
PS: don't forget bin4ry as VERY good dev i would say one of the best! he wrote that he wants to buy a newer phoneto play around but we won't forget him and his work
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Wow this is awesome to hear!!!! I'm really excited to see how this unfolds
I believe that the bootloader is crashed out at some level, then the custom kernel is loaded, so it's more of a workaround but should offer the same end.
And definitely big thanks to All the Dev's that have kept working on solutions...
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Hola
this is really good news to hear after almost of year of our dev team hacking away at this monster.
I do hope that Bin4ry will not get that new phone too soon
Moved as not android development
And way start this thread? If binr4y have news he can let us know? This thread is useless, and the information you provide us is already in the bootloader Dev thread.
Sorry don't mean to disrespect you in any way but this thread is for me spam..
Best regards
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Hey don't want to step on anyone's toes, but I Really think this is news for us x10 users. I felt that my post might inspire some people to hang on to there x10's. As for this being spam, no its not as the news is in the Dev's only forum while this is for general public, plus I don't think it's doing harm.
If Bin4ry has issues with including his breakthrough then I'm sure it will be deleted
PS, i Don't find it useless, not everyone reads the bootloader thread, so I think this may be very interesting
Best regards
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i'm happy with the news but it's kind of sad to read how just a little step after all these months make us all excited;when i just read last night that the htc thunderbolt bootloader was cracked after 2 or 4 days of its released.
i will support all the effort the dev and you ppl put into this but so disappointed wwith the way sony works,much like apple in my point of view.Is not bad coz they protect their products or intelectual whatever its call,but isn't the whole point of android os to be completly custumisible? if sony doesnt want us to do that or if in the near future the bootloadre is cracked,would they sue the dev?
why they don't create their own iphone then?
so disapointed,after using sony cellphones the last 6 yrs,this is the last for a while i think for me.but im so grateful for all the work and support of the dev and members.peace.
Im kinda on the fence with this post....but i have to lean towards the next "bootloader" post should only come when/if its cracked.
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i'm happy with the news but it's kind of sad to read how just a little step after all these months make us all excited
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There's never been a phone with such a secure protection, and if this phone has an exploit then chances are new model's won't. This news though not complete is the closest the Dev's have come to finding a workable exploit. And what Bin4ry has done is show that we can have custom kernel's, this is a win in my eyes
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i'm happy with the news but it's kind of sad to read how just a little step after all these months make us all excited;when i just read last night that the htc thunderbolt bootloader was cracked after 2 or 4 days of its released.
i will support all the effort the dev and you ppl put into this but so disappointed wwith the way sony works,much like apple in my point of view.Is not bad coz they protect their products or intelectual whatever its call,but isn't the whole point of android os to be completly custumisible? if sony doesnt want us to do that or if in the near future the bootloadre is cracked,would they sue the dev?
why they don't create their own iphone then?
so disapointed,after using sony cellphones the last 6 yrs,this is the last for a while i think for me.but im so grateful for all the work and support of the dev and members.peace.
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I wouldn't worry about the Thunderbolt, I'm sure the devs over at the Atrix forums are having a harder time than us.
This sounds to good to be true.
It would be awesome!
Touchscreen working in the latest Kexec kit from bin4ry I guess thats closest to getting the bootloader hacked Though it seems temporary for now
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And what Bin4ry has done is show that we can have custom kernel's, this is a win in my eyes
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Yeah, that's great.
Hopefully we'll have custom kernels with removed 32fps cap and oc soon.
Then my X10 would be perfect @ 2.1, 1.2GHz and super smooth, because of the removed cap
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I guess thats closest to getting the bootloader hacked
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It is NOT hacking the bootloader it is just ignoring it... Like doing a side loading of the Kernel. Unfortunately if you reboot your phone the phone will boot as normal with Original SE files....
Never the less it is great news, if he can get a script to start the kexec tool in every reboot the bootloader will be totally ignored and we can load the custom kernels.
Jim
Flo95 said:
Yeah, that's great.
Hopefully we'll have custom kernels with removed 32fps cap and oc soon.
Then my X10 would be perfect @ 2.1, 1.2GHz and super smooth, because of the removed cap
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Why not 2.3 ?
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It is NOT hacking the bootloader it is just ignoring it... Like doing a side loading of the Kernel. Unfortunately if you reboot your phone the phone will boot as normal with Original SE files....
Never the less it is great news, if he can get a script to start the kexec tool in every reboot the bootloader will be totally ignored and we can load the custom kernels.
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I understand that man, thats why i said closest to getting the bootloader hacked
I read on other forum...on Xperia X10 they finnaly got it
The bootloader has been bypassed using the kexec/miniloader method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12578251&postcount=849
[bootloader bypass guide and report thread][alfa release only!!!!][april 1rst]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12637163#post12637163
can anyone try the same method?
I'm hesitant of anything posted on April 1st, regardless of source! But I hope this works for the Atrix.
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I'm hesitant of anything posted on April 1st, regardless of source! But I hope this works for the Atrix.
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This is confirmed working guys.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDh4psrbb3c
YEAH, its true, many people have try...see the post reply after day 1 and video
soo, please, I think this can break the bootloader of our atrix, but I don't have acknolegement to do that
I assume Atrix has different type of bootloader than SE X10a
May try after final exam
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I assume Atrix has different type of bootloader than SE X10a
May try after final exam
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You can't just run their script and make it work that way, their exploit would have to be ported to the Atrix.
Hope this works, may I remind any dev that the is a huge bounty for this.
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Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
+1. Would bring much more positive attention to the thread.
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Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
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+1. Would bring much more positive attention to the thread.
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And all the naysayers and impatient fools too, unfortunately. I just read this also, if it could be ported it may be a promising lead. I'm off to do a bit more digging
WOOOOOOO! thanx for posting this, hopefully this works, let's crack this bootloader and make these Atrix haters mad!
I consider that sugestion
also I will try use that method to crash bootloder....I have some help from my teacher xD...
RacecarBMW said:
Maybe you should change your title to...
"Possible bootloader unlock method"
it would get more attention.
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WOOOOOOO! thanx for posting this, hopefully this works, let's crack this bootloader and make these Atrix haters mad!
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theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
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fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on you
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Lol you might wanna correct that...
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Lol you might wanna correct that...
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Maybe he means... "fool me once, shame on (pause) you. You fool me you can't get fooled again." - GW Bush
Sorry hat to clutter this thread. Anyway, anyone got any reading material on this exploit done on the X10? I want to learn more about it.
Any Dev's care to comment on this?
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theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
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there are Atrix haters as well as moto haters, i've debated and well as read comments from quite a few of them, but people that have the wrong attitude and give up so easily on the phone ain't helping at all(or people that never had the phone to begin with), but i understand some people have their needs or wants in a phone and the atrix may not be it for them, but don't bash it just because you may not like it, never even owned it but have negative comments about it, have a defective device or whatever, and no i'm not saying that YOU have done any of this, but i'm tired of seeing it.....
but back to what this topic is actually about, hopefully this topic catches the devs attention
sooo.. ignoring the differences in architecture between omap and tegra, were the two bootloaders secured in the same fashion?> signed? signed and locked? locked?
DAGr8 said:
theres no such thing as atrix haters , theres moto haters , I been a moto fan since the startac , truth is motorola has spit in our face since the days of EZX phone where they would always find a way to circumvent gpl , I wish I could have an atrix , but as long as its locked , not gnna happen , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I am very tempted but I wont jump in just yet , I heard Tegra is much less secure then omap so theres your chance but it be a good month or 3 or 4 before anything happens to that bootloader , thinking otherwise woudl be greatly under estimating Motorola ...
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Even it takes 3 or 4 months it still gives us hope. I thought this whole signed bootloader mess was gonna be completely impossible! So I'm thrilled to hear this!
Nothing is impossible
Doesn't look like this is catching the eye of many people though, most likely from the 4/4 date.
It's been getting quieter and quieter as of lately. I hope they are getting closer to something big or working hard on something, because this is a great phone. Its even encouraged me to start to do a little dev'ing of my own But in the meanwhile I'll just continue to wait patiently
We should see some minor momentum when it launches internationally later this spring.
the devs are most likely using the private forums, which is why its been quiet in the public ones...
i hope
unlocking the bootloader would be the bomb! ... but that's easy to say
I really wish something like this would happen. It such a shame to have the flagship android device on AT&T have such a hard time with devs because of the bootloader.
Hard to see any development until they release source with bootloader unlock. Hopefully gingerbread isn't far off given the Droid x had it released.
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pagandoc said:
Hard to see any development until they release source with bootloader unlock. Hopefully gingerbread isn't far off given the Droid x had it released.
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Wasn't is stated somewhere that gingerbread would come Q2 or Q3? I can't remember
Hopefully with the next update as well as the current drop in prices through Amazon, etc, we'll see more interest. The locked bootloader is probably a big turn off for most developers though.
So it's April 13th.. Where is that HSUPA firmware upgrade AT&T told us we would get?
Jesus... I didn't know that April 13th was the end of April... These months have sure gotten shorter.
I'm just spit-balling here, but when a company states they'll be releasing an OTA in April, that might mean they'll release it at some point in the month. Not just within the first two weeks.
You might be justified in using that statement the first week of March, but... Nevermind.
Actually, the Atrix's irc channel is very active and devs are working on the bootloader (kholk even stated that he has a method to unlock/bypass it, but he's away until the 2nd of May, so he'll probably test/finish/whatever it when he returns).
I think that devs tend not to post their smaller ideas on the forums now, but rather discuss them on irc as the forums got quite messy with lots of off topic crap...
That would be outstanding...
bee55 said:
Actually, the Atrix's irc channel is very active and devs are working on the bootloader (kholk even stated that he has a method to unlock/bypass it, but he's away until the 2nd of May, so he'll probably test/finish/whatever it when he returns).
I think that devs tend not to post their smaller ideas on the forums now, but rather discuss them on irc as the forums got quite messy with lots of off topic crap...
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nerdgasm!
i'm going to start transferring money into my paypal now so I can donate to these guys once the unlock comes out.
And also regarding the HSPA+ (or HSUPA+?+) update we're supposed to get, I'm trying my hardest to forget about it because I'd feel I'm setting myself up for a big letdown.
s1mpd1ddy said:
nerdgasm!
i'm going to start transferring money into my paypal now so I can donate to these guys once the unlock comes out.
And also regarding the HSPA+ (or HSUPA+?+) update we're supposed to get, I'm trying my hardest to forget about it because I'd feel I'm setting myself up for a big letdown.
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same here! ... the guy who'll unlock the atrix's bootloader is gonna get a lot of lov€ from me
I think the 2700 dollar bounty is motivation lol. The devs are definitely hard at work on the bootloader. Only had the phone a month an a half and Im content so far but in a year I'm sure we'll all start getting antsy for some new more hardcore devices that's when custom ROMs and overclocking will quench our thirst lol
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Anyone know where Da_G disappeared to? Haven't heard anything from him for a quite a bit now.
If I'm not mistaken I think I saw him in the IRC channel today. Haven't seen any posts from him lately tho. Maybe he's cooking up some goodness
bee55 said:
Actually, the Atrix's irc channel is very active and devs are working on the bootloader (kholk even stated that he has a method to unlock/bypass it, but he's away until the 2nd of May, so he'll probably test/finish/whatever it when he returns).
I think that devs tend not to post their smaller ideas on the forums now, but rather discuss them on irc as the forums got quite messy with lots of off topic crap...
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you made me the happiest person alive. 2 weeks, meh whatever. at least we know its close.
vin791 said:
you made me the happiest person alive. 2 weeks, meh whatever. at least we know its close.
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No expectations, no disappointments my dear
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PixoNova said:
Anyone know where Da_G disappeared to? Haven't heard anything from him for a quite a bit now.
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I remember that someone said said Da_G is facing some personal issues...