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[Q] Why do YOU want the Xoom?

I'm curious as to what other potential buyers here on XDA plan to do with the Xoom and why they want it. Maybe we can discover new uses through other people?
HD recording and playback will be awesome. I've never owned a webcam, so the Xoom's cam on the front will be fun. I'm very excited for Honeycomb itself, the revamped apps should be really cool! Besides all that, I really like the Xoom's exterior and formfactor compared to some other tablets. The Notion Ink Adam has similar specs, but I simply don't like how it looks. Also, the imposed UI doesn't appeal to me personality.
As far as usage, being a musician, I want to put in all my sheet music/real books to have with me on the gig and for personal practice. Having to print off sheet music and also having to lug everything around isn't very convenient. With the Xoom, I'll have lots of music accessible with just a few clicks! Also, I've gotten quite a few eBooks recently that will be more comfortably read on the Xoom rather than my laptop or my tiny Eris (3.2" screen!)

Ok, I thought this was going to be more about "why Xoom and not another tablet", but reading your post, it sounds more like "what will you do with a tablet". Anyway, why I like the Xoom over other Andro-tablets is the stock Android Honeycomb experience paired with usually reliable Moto hardware. Other tablets are making waves and could steal my vote though, such as the upcoming Toshiba and HTC ones... All high end tablets are likely to feature Android 3.0, dual-core processors, 1Gb RAM, two cameras, 720p recording/1080p playback, HDMI and USB ports, and the usual WiFi and Bluetooth, so the price (and availability in Canada, for me!) will play a big part.

PuerkitoBio said:
Ok, I thought this was going to be more about "why Xoom and not another tablet", but reading your post, it sounds more like "what will you do with a tablet". Anyway, why I like the Xoom over other Andro-tablets is the stock Android Honeycomb experience paired with usually reliable Moto hardware. Other tablets are making waves and could steal my vote though, such as the upcoming Toshiba and HTC ones... All high end tablets are likely to feature Android 3.0, dual-core processors, 1Gb RAM, two cameras, 720p recording/1080p playback, HDMI and USB ports, and the usual WiFi and Bluetooth, so the price (and availability in Canada, for me!) will play a big part.
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I edited my first post adequately, thanks! I should have reworded the title.
Yeah, I am curious to see what HTC will come up with, though I really want a tablet now! Motorola has been reliable and blur won't be integrated in, so it should be a great device. However, if the Xoom's pricing is too high I'll probably just wait for a wifi-only device. By that time, there will probably be more info from HTC since leaks from them are common.
Hopefully it'll be available in Canada for you!

will regular android applications work on honeycomb? my main requirement is to use medical programs on android and it s currently running on my fascinate/galaxy tab/ipad.

copualt3 said:
will regular android applications work on honeycomb? my main requirement is to use medical programs on android and it s currently running on my fascinate/galaxy tab/ipad.
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From what I know, If they work on your Galaxy Tab they'll work on the Xoom. As you're probably aware of, some apps aren't coded to run on a screen size bigger than a phones, so like in your Tab, they will have be scaled. Honeycomb might compensate somehow though!
As Honeycomb begins to settle, more and more developers will begin to adjust their apps to at least scale to the Xoom's size if not make full use it's screen res.

ma42091 said:
I edited my first post adequately, thanks! I should have reworded the title.
Yeah, I am curious to see what HTC will come up with, though I really want a tablet now! Motorola has been reliable and blur won't be integrated in, so it should be a great device. However, if the Xoom's pricing is too high I'll probably just wait for a wifi-only device. By that time, there will probably be more info from HTC since leaks from them are common.
Hopefully it'll be available in Canada for you!
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I am curious just to see what HTC has to offer but I'm pretty sure i want the full Google experience and no sense ui so I definitely want the zoom over any HTC product right now.also HTC needs to start using better processors and screens

p-slim said:
I am curious just to see what HTC has to offer but I'm pretty sure i want the full Google experience and no sense ui so I definitely want the zoom over any HTC product right now.also HTC needs to start using better processors and screens
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And HTC should work on faster OS updates. I'm sticking with the Xoom unless it's too pricey...but even then I'll wait until I can afford it/prices lower! I hope the bootloader isn't locked...

I want it because I actually don't think it's too pricey (assuming 700 is what we're looking at). I'm in the market for a laptop replacement, and with an Android phone and a newly built desktop at home, I just don't need a full blown laptop replacement, especially if I can just remote into my desktop on said tablet. The (likely) dealbreaker for me is a locked bootloader. Has anyone seen any information on the bootloader?

ma42091 said:
From what I know, If they work on your Galaxy Tab they'll work on the Xoom. As you're probably aware of, some apps aren't coded to run on a screen size bigger than a phones, so like in your Tab, they will have be scaled. Honeycomb might compensate somehow though!
As Honeycomb begins to settle, more and more developers will begin to adjust their apps to at least scale to the Xoom's size if not make full use it's screen res.
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Thanks, ma42091, for the input. The xoom will be an awesome tablet. Motorola has really step up in terms of top notch specs and design. The competion is really challenging htc and th they have a rumor tablet coming too.
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cslawren said:
I want it because I actually don't think it's too pricey (assuming 700 is what we're looking at). I'm in the market for a laptop replacement, and with an Android phone and a newly built desktop at home, I just don't need a full blown laptop replacement, especially if I can just remote into my desktop on said tablet. The (likely) dealbreaker for me is a locked bootloader. Has anyone seen any information on the bootloader?
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It's not too much from what a high-end smartphone costs off-contract now in reality. Though, for a poor college student...
As far as the bootloader, there's no info yet. This is Motorola's latest statement:
We are working closely with our partners to offer a bootloader solution that will enable developers to use our devices as a development platform while still protecting our users' interests. More detailed information will follow as we get closer to availability.
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We'll have to see if anything new info leaks by the Xoom's release, hopefully it'll be unlocked.
copualt3 said:
Thanks, ma42091, for the input. The xoom will be an awesome tablet. Motorola has really step up in terms of top notch specs and design. The competion is really challenging htc and th they have a rumor tablet coming too.
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You're welcome. I agree, Motorola has set high standards. Info on one of HTC's tablets is out already: Leak: Topaz Specs (Gizmodo)
The Xoom still looks better!

The Topaz is not an HTC tablet, its an HP WebOS one.
Edit: And now that I hink about it, I honestly do not believe Motorola set the bar high. There are several other tablets running stock Android 3.0 with Tegra 2 processors that are "promised" to be released this year. The few things that seperates this tablet from the others is it being on Verizon, and it being Google's lead Honeycomb device. Heck, in terms of specifications that yet-to-be named Toshiba tablet is already equal to or better than the Xoom, not including the Barometer. The Xoom is not at all a hard device to beat. Especially not in design (my favorite area).
I truly believe the only reason this will be so big is because of Verizon's power. Some say that they made Android what it is today because of the Droid line. With Verizon behind it this tablet will be successful. A very good competitor to the iPad.

Actually the Toshiba tab has only been said to be a tegra 2 processor, they havent given the full specs yet. Also you have to worry about updates, the 1st Droid on vzw because of stock android got all the Google updates before most devices on the market except the nexus. I'm pretty sure this pad will be getting updates long before any other pads out there
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Actually the Toshiba tab has only been said to be a tegra 2 processor, they havent given the full specs yet. Also you have to worry about updates, the 1st Droid on vzw because of stock android got all the Google updates before most devices on the market except the nexus. I'm pretty sure this pad will be getting updates long before any other pads out there
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Go here for the Toshiba tablet specs:
http://www.thetoshibatablet.com/

p-slim said:
Actually the Toshiba tab has only been said to be a tegra 2 processor, they havent given the full specs yet. Also you have to worry about updates, the 1st Droid on vzw because of stock android got all the Google updates before most devices on the market except the nexus. I'm pretty sure this pad will be getting updates long before any other pads out there
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Most if not all of the specs for the Toshiba Tab have been released on it's website: www.thetoshibatablet.com. And yes, I did take the update situation into consideration with my previous post. Hence the "because it is Google's lead device.."

Seems like a nice pad but I couldn't figure out how much memory it comes with? I plan on using about 25gbs just for music, I never plan on hooking this (or my sd card)to my desktop for music again. Also I don't see myself ever buying a Toshiba product, I would prefer LG slate over this but that's just me. If this pad has 32gb on board memory the only reason it will be cheaper is because of no 3g an obviously its Toshiba. Another thing don't drop it, it's not made with the gorilla glass so bumps and drops can crack the screen easily
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I have T-Mobile so I actually did take the LG-G Slate into consideration, but with an 8.9" screen I said never mind. Also, I'm sure Toshiba's tab will be "decent". Judging from photos, and small previews, people seem ok with the device so far.

Galaxy Tab running Honeycomb with a Super AMOLED display and LTE radio is my dream tablet. The Xoom and all the new tabs look amazing but after extensive use of the Galaxy Tab and the iPad in various situations, I find the iPad and soon to be Xoom sized tabs to be just slighty cumbersome on the whole. Though let me reitterate the 'on the whole' part because there certainly were circumstances where the extra real estate of the 10 inch tab was definately prefered. Anyone else have a similar or differing experience?
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Eclair~ said:
The Topaz is not an HTC tablet, its an HP WebOS one.
Edit: And now that I hink about it, I honestly do not believe Motorola set the bar high. There are several other tablets running stock Android 3.0 with Tegra 2 processors that are "promised" to be released this year. The few things that seperates this tablet from the others is it being on Verizon, and it being Google's lead Honeycomb device. Heck, in terms of specifications that yet-to-be named Toshiba tablet is already equal to or better than the Xoom, not including the Barometer. The Xoom is not at all a hard device to beat. Especially not in design (my favorite area).
I truly believe the only reason this will be so big is because of Verizon's power. Some say that they made Android what it is today because of the Droid line. With Verizon behind it this tablet will be successful. A very good competitor to the iPad.
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Argh, don't know why I thought it was HTC!
I had not seen specs for the Toshiba tablet until this morning. Looks pretty good. Looking at that, It does make the Xoom look like it's not hard to beat. As you said, the Xoom will be successful because it's the first Honeycomb tablet and it'll be under Verizon. Motorola has hinted at a Wifi-only and different sizes (7" variant?) as well, which will help later on in the year.
However, there's always something coming that's better with mobile devices. I want a tablet now, the Xoom is what I'm going to get!
Besides, even if it does become overshadowed by over tablets this year, I won't mind--I'm still rockin' a HTC Droid Eris proudly!

taintphuck said:
Galaxy Tab running Honeycomb with a Super AMOLED display and LTE radio is my dream tablet. The Xoom and all the new tabs look amazing but after extensive use of the Galaxy Tab and the iPad in various situations, I find the iPad and soon to be Xoom sized tabs to be just slighty cumbersome on the whole. Though let me reitterate the 'on the whole' part because there certainly were circumstances where the extra real estate of the 10 inch tab was definately prefered. Anyone else have a similar or differing experience?
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There's supposed to be a Galaxy Tab 2, wonder what that will have in store. Motorola has hinted at releasing different sizes of the Xoom later on too. I personally want the larger screen size though for pdfs, documents, movies, etc

Played with the xoom today, I will be getting one. And yes the software is done and doesn't crash. I can't wait for this device. It is alot heavier then you expect but is soooooo sexy
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Xoom @ COSTCO

Anyone that is looking to get the XOOM, i just find out today that COSTCO will be carrying them at the cell phone booth. They had the samsung tab for $100 less then everyone else, so might want to check it out if you plan to get one. The email said live displays would start arriving in stores the 22nd, and display banners/signs would start arriving the 24th. It did not say when the units would go on sale or for how much.

No show today
Checked with Costco this am 22nd, and the fellow told me they will not have anything until Thurs.--he knew nothing about price etc.

I doubt it'll be cheaper than verizons on contract price of 600.
even then, people said the apple ipad was to expensive at 499, but the xoom with no flash support(i know yet, but it will, maybe, its motorola who locks there stuff down tight, ask anyone with a Moto X, so who knows. lol) is going for 800?!
I will wait for an HTC tablet with Honeycomb. It will be much better IMHO

nosympathy said:
I will wait for an HTC tablet with Honeycomb. It will be much better IMHO
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Why is that? Motorola has competed with HTC pretty well in the smartphone realm, why are you automatically assuming that HTC will be better in the tablet realm?
The HTC tablet announced at WMC is a joke compared to the Xoom IMHO.

akarol said:
Why is that? Motorola has competed with HTC pretty well in the smartphone realm, why are you automatically assuming that HTC will be better in the tablet realm?
The HTC tablet announced at WMC is a joke compared to the Xoom IMHO.
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Agreed - HTC seems to be pushing too much sense and not really promoting the android aspect of it. Yeah they update their phones relatively timely manner but they're doing with sense what apple did with unix - keeping it limited to only what they want and that's whats irritating.
I think the Flyer would have been nicer with vanilla honeycomb and not all the extra fluff of sense. Its the main reason why Moto, Samsung, AND LG are keeping with the vanilla version - they finally realize they'll get more people on board if they put out a standard tab the way apple did with the ipad

I might get the xoom after it is rooted, and bootloader unlocked, cm8 tab edition ftw

i am loving every aspect of it, but the only thing stopping me is there are no good apps and games for Android. I won't be playing games, but there will be time when i will want to and there are no good games. I can't justify myself spending $800 and not having a Complete product.

teshxx said:
i am loving every aspect of it, but the only thing stopping me is there are no good apps and games for Android. I won't be playing games, but there will be time when i will want to and there are no good games. I can't justify myself spending $800 and not having a Complete product.
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Not true, what so ever... there may not be amazing games in the android market.. but else where there is good games for the platform.

NewZJ said:
I might get the xoom after it is rooted, and bootloader unlocked, cm8 tab edition ftw
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The Xoom will have an unlockable bootloader.
https://twitter.com/Motorola/status/40166376467341312

boliviano3 said:
The Xoom will have an unlockable bootloader.
https://twitter.com/Motorola/status/40166376467341312
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well. then, i'll be getting a Xoom, i might play with it for a while before my psp ngp comes out

Mm I don't think I ma get it seems too expensive, probably get an ipad it has been almost a year since it came out and it really has some nice apps (brother has one ).maybe wait for ipad 2
About the flyer truth HTC adds a lot stuff to their phones that not a lot people that are into deveplomet (like people at this forum) wants but to the regular consumer it does look really nice, is impresive what they did with android os (not honeycomb ) and is easy to use, plus 7 inch sounds like a good size I didn't get the sansumg tablet cause bad experience with sansumg in the past but anyone with open mind should read this article (link below), and most it to me sounds correct, android seems to be rushing to it just like gingerbread, they said in the past the gingerbread was going to have a better UI but it looks the same to me (just some new stuff here and there ) while HTC have been more advance to what google is doing, we can just put a simple example like facebook integration with HTC is better then google integration (after you download the app) so I have to give it up to HTC for taking a risky approach, and of course google for.bringing android
technobuffalo.com/blog/companies/google/android/htc-flyer-was-the-best-android-tablet-at-mwc/
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jgalan14 said:
Mm I don't think I ma get it seems too expensive, probably get an ipad it has been almost a year since it came out and it really has some nice apps (brother has one ).maybe wait for ipad 2
About the flyer truth HTC adds a lot stuff to their phones that not a lot people that are into deveplomet (like people at this forum) wants but to the regular consumer it does look really nice, is impresive what they did with android os (not honeycomb ) and is easy to use, plus 7 inch sounds like a good size I didn't get the sansumg tablet cause bad experience with sansumg in the past but anyone with open mind should read this article (link below), and most it to me sounds correct, android seems to be rushing to it just like gingerbread, they said in the past the gingerbread was going to have a better UI but it looks the same to me (just some new stuff here and there ) while HTC have been more advance to what google is doing, we can just put a simple example like facebook integration with HTC is better then google integration (after you download the app) so I have to give it up to HTC for taking a risky approach, and of course google for.bringing android
technobuffalo.com/blog/companies/google/android/htc-flyer-was-the-best-android-tablet-at-mwc/
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You obviously haven't played with the iPad enough. Well, lucky for you, I have (I have owned one since its launch). And I'll tell you that the lack of Flash support alone is reason not to get one. That, by itself, makes this tablet inferior to any Android-based one. Trust me on this! You'd be surprised how many sites that you visit rely on Flash.
Also, another thing that really limits the iPad is the fact that apps are not flexible in its code to accurately extrapolate the pixel density, leading you to have iPhone/iPod apps and iPad (HD) apps. Not the case in Android. All apps work in all devices. Regardless of its resolution. This means that all apps in the Android Market are also available to its tablet users. Not the case with the App Store. I'd say about half of the apps on my iPad are iPhone apps that are 2x scaled over, making it painfully pixelated.

akarol said:
You obviously haven't played with the iPad enough. Well, lucky for you, I have (I have owned one since its launch). And I'll tell you that the lack of Flash support alone is reason not to get one. That, by itself, makes this tablet inferior to any Android-based one. Trust me on this! You'd be surprised how many sites that you visit rely on Flash.
Also, another thing that really limits the iPad is the fact that apps are not flexible in its code to accurately extrapolate the pixel density, leading you to have iPhone/iPod apps and iPad (HD) apps. Not the case in Android. All apps work in all devices. Regardless of its resolution. This means that all apps in the Android Market are also available to its tablet users. Not the case with the App Store. I'd say about half of the apps on my iPad are iPhone apps that are 2x scaled over, making it painfully pixelated.
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Well thanks for the info I appreciate it, we'll not pad for me lmao, I'll stick with my Evo and my laptop
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The Xoom will ship with flash 10.1 right? I heard that the OTA will be for Flash 10.2.
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The Xoom will ship with flash 10.1 right? I heard that the OTA will be for Flash 10.2.
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Not flash man but it will have an update shortly ( 2 weeks adobe said today )
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No Flash at launch, but it'll come soon according to Adobe. Early Spring.

Sorry for the crappy picture but here you go.

I am just going to wait for the $600 WiFi only version. I spoke with mobile guy at Costco and he said there is a WiFi only version in their system that will come out 30 days after the 3G Xoom is released (Feb 24). I have a Costco AMEX card and will just use that as Costco has a better return policy than BB. I also have a BB card that has nothing on it and interest free for 18 months sound good as well. I guess I will cross that bridge when the WiFi only model gets released.

The twitter about the unlocked bootloader totally changed me....now I waiting for the wifi only xoom...if it's available on Costco even the better.

ipad fans: hows that usb, flash, and camera support coming along? oh, my bad, you'll never have those...

NO!!!!! The 8.9" has custom UI :( See this!!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...including-live-panel-ui-leaked-ahead-of-ctia/
Great!!! I don't want this crap custom UI thing!
Bye-bye Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9" ...
ARRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was waiting this news for days ... but custom UI? from Samsung?
What a sad day today

Thats really sucks big time. The size and weight is perfect. Why are Samsung doing this, they are shoting there self in the foot. They sucks and isn't fast to sendout software updates and improvement on products. I bet this have not changed, and those who buy this will ha e to wait forever to get HC updates

Wow that sux big time, glad I already preorder samsung galaxy tab 10.1....knew the custom ui thingy coming on 8.9 after i see the teaser video

This is absolutely ridiculous. Why would they keep the 10.1 stock and then put stupid crap over the 8.9? I hope its just a few apps and nothing to get in the way of the core OS like TouchWiz....
Just let me uninstall or turn it off and you can do whatever you want, but please Samsung just give me an option for stock 3.0......
I hope Samsung knows that they're gonna lose people to the Xoom if they put an intrusive skin on this.

Won't we be able to just flash a custom ROM?

and maybe we can flash 10.1's ROM on the 8.9 since the spec is IINM the same

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Won't we be able to just flash a custom ROM?
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Well of course, but its the principle of it.
I shouldn't have to flash a custom ROM just to get it the way that it comes from Google. Why can't they just give a checkbox in settings to turn off a UI customization?
Why the **** would they make 10.1 stock but 8.9 all TouchWiz'd out? The stock 10.1 was extremely well received by everyone, didn't Samsung get the hint that people want it that way?
I hope that its just extra Samsung apps and widgets, things that are easily ignored or not used. If they keep the stock 3.0 UI in tact thats all I want. This thing looks amazing at 1.03 lbs and .33 inches thick, just give it stock 3.0!!!!!!! Agh its killing me.

Considering the Galaxy S line sold over 10 million even with TouchWiz, with 2 being sold every second... Samsung sees no reason not to try this again. However, the Galaxy Tab did only manage to sell a pathetic 1 million so this could possibly be a bad idea, but I always thought it sucked anyways. That version of Android wasn't meant for tablets, and the Tab was so small..

Yeah, but if you read the Xoom forum, Honeycomb is not stable.
Do you think Samsung will give proper speedy update with this customization?
That's my only concern.
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Well, after night slept, I was thinking what would be the reason I still might get this 8.9"?
Because I really like the form factor. Small, thin (very thin!), light.
So, here it is:
If and only if ... we can put custom ROM in it.
That's it!
That's the guarantee we can get an update, although unofficial. We would kill our-self if we wait Samsung to update (although they do give update to non U.S. Galaxy phones).
Oh, and I am now wondering, what could be the size of the battery?
Because it is so light!
I don't think it can have 6000+ mAH.
The previous 7" Gtab has only 4000 mAH and the weight is 380gram.
I would be even more pissed if it has the same battery size of that 7" version!

fwiw the 10.1 is supposed to have a ~6900mAh battery if that gives you any idea of what the 8.9 might have. Something around the ~6200 range probably.

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Yeah, but if you read the Xoom forum, Honeycomb is not stable.
Do you think Samsung will give proper speedy update with this customization?
That's my only concern.
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BINGO!!
My only concern going for this sammy 8.9 is how long they will take to provide honeycomb updates. I'm spoiled using my NexusOne and always being at the front of the line with updates. I think that's why the xoom hasn't left my shopping list yet.

If the photos are legit then Samsung needs to spell check their promo gear.... 2nd pic....Availity to see......
I still want one though....

Big news. The 10.1 will have the Touch Wiz UI as well. I don't know what it looks like but I was hoping for the stock Honeycomb on the 10.1

Why do we even care if they have TouchWiz or not. Some one in XDA would surely come up with a custom ROM to get rid of it. No big deal for me at least.

Srikar_NBK said:
Why do we even care if they have TouchWiz or not. Some one in XDA would surely come up with a custom ROM to get rid of it. No big deal for me at least.
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The issue is more of samsung compiling loads of their crap into the framework keeping you from being able to completely strip out the samsung from the rom.
Until the development of an AOSP rom comes along there will still be samsung cluttering the device and crippling it just like they did with the rest of their phones.

Tabs wont have TouchWiz initially?
I spotted this in a Cnet article.
We should also note that the TouchWiz UX won't come on the tablets out of the box. Instead, it will come via a software update some time after the tablets are launched, but Samsung couldn't provide a more specific time frame.​
Here's link (add the http): //reviews.cnet.com/8301-12261_7-20045771-10356022.html?tag=cnetRiver
I'm a new user so I can't give direct link.

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I spotted this in a Cnet article.
We should also note that the TouchWiz UX won't come on the tablets out of the box. Instead, it will come via a software update some time after the tablets are launched, but Samsung couldn't provide a more specific time frame.​
Here's link (add the http): //reviews.cnet.com/8301-12261_7-20045771-10356022.html?tag=cnetRiver
I'm a new user so I can't give direct link.
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I think this is only true for certain countries. Not 100% though.

pls! giv me some suggestion

samsung just announced that both of their tab will be released on early SUMMER n june 8 means i have to wait till june for buying anyone?
i m fed up of waiting, so i 'd like to ask xoom users, are xoom worth to buy? wat is it's bad?

If you have decided on buy an Android tablet, I don't see any reason why Galaxy tab's will be better than Xoom...
I can't see any negative to Xoom when you compare Galaxy tabs, but there are a few benefits,
Xoom comes with vanilla honeycomb which is million times better than any other 'skins'. Also you will get updates much faster and don't have to wait for Samsung to port it.
Look wise I like the Xoom..

I read an article yesterday that stated samsung is using a custom honeycomb UI so I lost interest immediately when I read that. I enjoy my xoom and I will stick with it at this point. I have also read that it feels like cheap plastic, which is another huge drawback in my opinion. To me a better screen isn't worth molested android, especially a version that is not only buggy and incomplete, but also total revamp of the whole UI, I foresee samsung screwing it up with a laggy interface as usual.
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The thread should be merged with this one. Maybe you'll find more inspiration there.

btw, last time i watched a review and it said that "the marketplace need an update to view all apps". does the marketplace updated now n can view all of the apps?

I would go with the Google Experience device. Chances are you will receive updates more frequently on the Xoom than the Galaxy 10.1. Plus TouchWiz is on this thing according to Engadget. Not sure I would want that screwing up my Honeycomb greatness!

does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?

omnia1994 said:
does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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It is quite heavy. different people have different tolerences though. It will be about .30lbs heavier than the 10.1 galaxy tab.

omnia1994 said:
does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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Well any tablet when held long enough will feel heavy. Depends on how comfortable you are holding the tablet and how strong your arms and wrists and fingers are haha..
Perhaps you can try holding a book of similar weight and see if you can stand it.

thx for everyone =)
but i just read about ppl said xoom will be sstop producing on june.
will this cause it lacks of accessories n software update in the future? is this true?

I read that the TouchWiz 4.0 is not deeply integrated into the Honeycomb (find the CNET article about this).
They are just bunch of apps and widgets. Even the 10.1 will be launched first as stock, which users can (or forced) to download the TouchWiz 4.0 via update.
I am not too worried with this TouchWiz thing, because XDA devs will root and we will be able to install custom ROM "anyway" Unless the bootloader is LOCKED and encrypted (like Motorola phones), history said Samsung has never done that.
So, I am now OK with this TouchWiz. From what I look in the hands-on video, it is still Honeycomb.
And also, living in Europe, Samsung gave updates to their phones here
So yeah, pretty much covered about the update.
I really like the hardware profile of this Samsung 8.9"
- Lighter at 470 gram versus 725 gram of Xoom.
- Thinner at 8.6"
- especially the PLS screen which is even better than the IPS of iPad2, no contest with Xoom in this area.

i heard that there's issue that xoom cant read sdcard? isit true? =(

omnia1994 said:
i heard that there's issue that xoom cant read sdcard? isit true? =(
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just answered your other thread, yes, the SDcard doesn't work yet on the Xoom.

weight of xoom
im pretty sure that metal weighs more than plastic, so as far as how heavy it is....
i mean, c'mon..think outside the box people.
btw..my xoom is freakin awesome, and had a apple guy convert from ipad to xoom this past week. freakin sweet.

If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.

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If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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^ These words are true.

Kcarpenter said:
If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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True...two companies I really REALLY dislike and that's samsung and Sony, over the years they have royally screwed me over, Samsung stop caring as soon as you hand over the cash and Sony screw you once they have your cash
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I love my xoom, and don't think i'd get any other HC tablet right now. I will say, I do like 8.9" and my only hardward wish with the xoom is for it be lighter and thinner.

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If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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My thoughts exactly.
The history of Samsung updating their products is enough for me to say no thank you to any Android device they make. The only time I would consider is something like the Nexus S - stock Android with no Sense/Blur/Touchwiz and gets updates first.
Furthermore, am I the only one that cringes a little when you see/hear/read the word "Touchwiz"? Sounds like Touchjizz to me. Just sounds like a really cheesy name for a skin.
I honestly don't understand what everyone is up in arms about the weight of the Xoom is. Either get a dock or portfolio that can prop it up or lift some weights. Like 2 lb weights because the friggin Xoom weighs even less than that!
Sure, anything gets heavy after a while. But I have yet to run into a situation where I'm fatigued from messing with the Xoom. Honestly, the weight difference between any tablets shouldn't be an issue, unless it's half/double the weight of something (or something else extreme). I like the way the back feels. Sometimes it seems like people just want to find something else to criticize.

Xoom any good?

Thinking of getting the xoom over the samsung tab 10.1 are people happy with the xoom?
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If you want a supported device get a xoom. I think the new gtab will launch with 2.1 and get 3.0 in about 8-12 months. (JK, but seriously Samsung has a proven track record of ZERO support for their devices)

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Thinking of getting the xoom over the samsung tab 10.1 are people happy with the xoom?
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You're probably going to get a bunch of people yelling at you for asking a question that has been asked many times over.
I'll answer though.
In short, yes it's good. It's excellent in my opinion.
Currently all Tablets running Honeycomb are going to suffer from having relatively few apps. This was the case when the first iPad was released. Luckily there are plenty of developers out there dedicated to creating quality applications for Honeycomb. Within a month or two, there will be an influx of applications and people will wish they had purchased the Xoom when they had the chance. With production numbers dropping there is no telling what Motorola's next design might be. It could be a locked down version like the Atrix phone kind of similar to what happened with the original Droid that was running vanilla Android. The Droid 2 had Motoblur and a locked bootloader; currently, owners of the original Droid are enjoying Gingerbread by Peter Alfonso.
Here are some current complaints:
1) No SD card support yet
2) LTE Upgrade will take 6 days
3) Application selection is limited
4) Performance seems low for a dual core product
My response:
1) It is coming and currently the unit has 32 GB of internal storage, are you running out already? If so, sit tight and you will be able to expand it to 64GB really cheaply.
2) Better than waiting 3 months on the release of the Xoom altogether, and if you are using it Wifi only like I am tethering it to my Epic 4G, LTE is irrelevant.
3) This will change with time, early adopters syndrome
4) As Google releases new versions of Honeycomb this will be addressed. Additionally there are already kernels bumping the speed from 1Ghz to 1.5Ghz creating a 50% performance increase out of the gates.
Anyway, it's all preference. I love Motorola's products so I got the Xoom.

This is like walking into an Apple store and asking if Macs are any good. What are you expecting?
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Having never owned a tab before, the xoom is my first experience and I think it's awosme.
Matter of fact i loved the xoom so much i dumped my iphone 4 and got an HTC inspire for my everyday phone.
I personally have only one complaint and that is it's very susceptable to glare.

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Having never owned a tab before, the xoom is my first experience and I think it's awosme.
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Well you're not alone, no one here has probably used the Tab 10.1 before because it isn't out yet! lol.
But seriously OP, coming to a Xoom forum asking a question that's been asked in detail a million times already is ridiculous. You're gonna get pretty polarized answers... Every other post in this forum is about how good/bad the Xoom is, just read.

anywho, back to the OP's question,
i'd wait it out and get that samsung. its thinner, lighter, cheaper, and has a better display than the xoom. but lets not get ahead here, those samsung tablets at CTIA were mockups.
as for updates, do not worry about that, as updates will be coming since the new gtab's will be a near google experience device. CNET has reported that the TouchWiz updates could possibly be an optional update. And tbh, i kinda like the new touchwiz UI.
personally, i'd wait.

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anywho, back to the OP's question,
personally, i'd wait.
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Samsung is evil incarnate, having just come from a Samsung Fascinate, I can tell you touchwiz is the most godawful piece of software you could ever have on your device. Not becuase it isnt good, touchwiz isnt all that bad, but, and this is a BIG bit, YOU WILL NEVER GET UPDATES. EVER. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING BUY OUR NEXT PRODUCT TO GET A SOFTWARE UPGRADE! No thank you. Not playing that game again. Not now. Not ever!

I can't wait to see if the GTabs will get updated. That is one of the main reasons people seem to be using to prevent others from liking them. Luckily the general population could care less about going from Android 2.2, to 2.3, and for those who can't wait... rooting is the alternative. Or buying another device.

Thanks to everyone that posted USEFUL comments.
I was at work and posted from my phone, so didn't want to risk reading 100's of threads.
This would be my first tablet so dont want spend £500+ and get a laggy device.
I have clicked "thanks" for everyone who left a useful comment.

It does not really matter if it's close to stock. Example the g2.
If you're one of those folks that always want the updates first you basically need a Google experience device.
Sammy seems to be the worst out of all the oems though.
Also look at the vodafone nexus one as far as updates that are tied to carrier goes.
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Motorola has already said that the report on cutting back on manufacturing xooms is 100% BS

I'm also considering buying a Xoom... I was going to buy the Galaxy tab 10.1, but yesterdays announcement kind of changed that, i don't want to wait until June.
So i have two options now, buy a Xoom or the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 (now renamed to 10.1v in EU).
About Xoom, i like the idea of clean Android, updates, USB and microSD slot. I have a feeling that Xoom will get more support in XDA forums also.
I'm not sure i like the extra 131g.
About Galaxy Tab 10.1v, i actually like the original design more, i don't care that it's 2mm thicker then the new one.
But I'm sure I don't like the idea of not getting any updates or getting a update with that TouchWiz UX.
Considering all this and that you have actually hold the 730g Xoom in your hand, which would you buy?

The Touchwiz UI they put on the tab isnt the same as one on the phones. But still, even that has to be revamped when new version of android comes out. Samsung is the worst when talking about updates. I liked the design of the original GTab 10.1 too, but thinking of updates, I went ahead and got the xoom. Samsung just needs to stop putting **** on awesome device like that and make the damn thing go into shame.