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Galaxy Tab 2 - 10.1inch, Honeycomb?

Just saw this on Engadget (via Pulse, hence the URL) and thought people might enjoy the read.
The Tab 2 seems to be following in the footsteps of the Xoom and LG Slate with the screen size. The article mentions no news or rumors of the destiny for our beloved Tabs but maybe the Samsung event will give us the good (or bad) news about the Honeycomb update.
I'm sure we'll 3.0 love as soon a system dump is available, but it'd still be nice of Samsung to give an official update seeing as this is the Tab which (pretty much) started the Android Tablet evolution.
http://pulsene.ws/11axe
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i am very happy with my 7" tab. not too big not too small just perfect, the 10.1" will be a bit to big, but i do agree that we should get the 3.0 upgrade soon.....

Ok one of the main reasons I bought my tab (other than how amazing cool it is) is due to the 7" screen. I dont want a huge 10" screen!. I have a 32" bravia for a pc monitor and a 10.1" netbook, I got the tab for portability! I wish they would leave it at 7"

I sure hope they don't increase the screen size, that is one of the great differentiating factors between the Tab and the iPad. I loved my iPad but it was too big to carry easily. All of the new Honeycomb announced tablet's have the bigger screen and I was counting on Samsung sticking with the smaller form factor. Although the rumors of Apple considering a 7" iPad are interesting and would tempt me to back. The biggest disappointment with the Tab is the sluggishness I get and no Android browser I've tried is as smooth and responsive as Safari on the iPad.

I have reliable information saying this will be some sort of official google tablet(maybe for the european market?). The hardware will also blow everyones minds somehow. Don't know any details about that, but the competition will supposedly be playing catchup for quite some while before they get there. I guess it will be some fancy new screen at least. I'm looking forward to sunday as samsung will tell us everything:-D
and yes, it will be running honeycomb.

Whatever, i hope it is a google tab made by samsung. Either way samsung fecking sucks ass. I've had a captivate since the day before launch and its yet to receive froyo. What the hell is the hold up? I learned my lesson and not to buy their proprietary bull****. I jumped ship and got the nook cause of the development and me not having the patience for samsung's bull**** and lies. Yeah wait and hope for your dump. Good luck porting that. Even with the nexus s galaxy s still hasn't been ported. Knock knock .... anyone home. As you can tell, i have lost my patience for samsung.
I'll check back in 6months. I'd almost be willing to place a wager. FU samsung FU

TheTodFather said:
Whatever, i hope it is a google tab made by samsung. Either way samsung ****ing sucks ass. I've had a captivate since the day before launch and its yet to receive froyo. What the hell is the hold up? I learned my lesson and not to buy their proprietary bull****. I jumped ship and got the nook cause of the development and me not having the patience for samsung's bull**** and lies. Yeah wait and hope for your dump. Good luck porting that. Even with the nexus s galaxy s still hasn't been ported. Knock knock .... anyone home. As you can tell, i have lost my patience for samsung.
I'll check back in 6months. I'd almost be willing to place a wager. FU samsung FU
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I'm sorry to be off topic from OP but your post is fubared to say the least.
You complain that Samsung doesn't release any update. You jump ship to get the Nook and use a custom ROM? LoL I guess Barnes & Noble released Honeycomb for Nook eh?

The rumor mill is going strong today.
Rumors have said the iPad will be available in 7" form factor and now the Tab will be in 10" form factor.
Wouldn't that be funny, each side copying the other after each saying the other size was not good!
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quattr0 said:
I'm sorry to be off topic from OP but your post is fubared to say the least.
You complain that Samsung doesn't release any update. You jump ship to get the Nook and use a custom ROM? LoL I guess Barnes & Noble released Honeycomb for Nook eh?
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+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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GANJDROID said:
+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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WHo said anything about porting this to a phone? Well since the nook is an omap it shares a lot of similarities with droidx, and since motorolla dosnt have all this proprietary bs that they dont release code for. So when trying to port a nexus s to galaxy s, one would think it would be simple. So when you guys get that dump i seriously doubt it will ported. It's just my opinion. That would be samsungs fault cause a lot of their drivers are proprietary since they make the hardware. So if they don't release code then code will have to be reversed engineered and that takes time...lots of it. Well you can see where i'm going with this. Samsung could of released info today about how the new tab and how they are going to upgrade their other one that was released 6 months ago but they didn't and they don't give a fuk, seriously.
] About jumping ship? I was just saying that if you want upgrades in os's , well , samsung hasn't shown that they give a rats ass. I learned the hard way just like you guys will. I happen to choose the nook because of the hardware and how easily it is to port. Unlike samsung again with their proprietary drivers and what not. This isn't a nook vs tab debate. I think the galaxy tab is beautiful hardware is sexy but the buck stop there. Samsung needs to show us that they care and i just don't have that faith. So good luck with the dump. Hope that works out.

GANJDROID said:
+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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Like i said this isn't a nook vs samsung tab debate. I was saying that the nook has drivers and all the code to boot making it truly open. Where as samsung is closed. IF samsung was so closed you guys and gals could already be honeycombin it up. But samsung sucks till they make their code truly open. (drivers)

TheTodFather said:
Like i said this isn't a nook vs samsung tab debate. I was saying that the nook has drivers and all the code to boot making it truly open. Where as samsung is closed. IF samsung was so closed you guys and gals could already be honeycombin it up. But samsung sucks till they make their code truly open. (drivers)
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I misunderstood your phone comment, I thought you meant porting Honeycomb to the Nexus/Galaxy S, not Nexus to Galaxy
I haven't looked into the Nook myself so I'm unfamiliar with the specs/features of it and the work developers has done to it is shocking and amazing.
I agree wwith the comment about Samsung being *****es with their upgrades. But I personally think that with the developers we have, I think we *might* be able to pull off something spectacular with this incredible device.
Most of us jumped into it buying the Tab knowing of Samsungs backgroynd but that's the risk everyone takes with devices, right? I came from a Desire and since FroYo, we've been screwed by HTC. No Sense UI 2.0 eventhough ports of the Desire HD & Z have proven it could cope. All manufacturers do it in their own way.
*Hopefully* Samsung will change their ways.
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I fully agree it would be unjust for the galaxy not to get some samsung love. But love and sumsung is almost an oxymoron. Specially when sammy's just getting in on this whole "open" thing. If they don't ;produce then this will be the straw that breaks the camels back. SO in the meantime let me say FU samy, shame on you.

I will be pissed if the tab 2 is not 7 inches. Lame.
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Update from Engadget, an 'official' picture was leaked. Not sure about everyone else, but i think the new menu button looks fugly I preferred the touch buttons as it made the Tab look sleek and sexy, now it looks to similar to that damn iPad. :/
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Im glad its going to be 10inch, makes me feel better for having a 7inch tab

Seems to be a lot of misunderstanding in this thread
Samsung always said there would be a 7" AND a 10" form factor... They are just rolling out the 10" with the latest hardware and Software (HC). Nothing surprising here. I ma not sure you can call that a GT2... It's just the 10" GT
Hopefully down the road they will update the 7" as well. nd I think it's a good thing they don't do it immediately !! I'd be pissed if my GT is immediately outdated...

I'm taking my Tab back and waiting out the release of the Xoom and Tab 2. I think right now was the wrong time to buy.

I for one do not think I am going to buy a new Galaxy Tab just for a few extra inches. I mean come on samsung it is the same galaxy tab just a small bit bigger...and also weren't they the ones that first made a speech about how 7" tablets are more protable then 10"....
And on that note, If for some reason Honeycomb didn't get put on my 7" I would prob buy another tablet...but not this one.

GANJDROID said:
http://pulsene.ws/11anK
Update from Engadget, an 'official' picture was leaked. Not sure about everyone else, but i think the new menu button looks fugly I preferred the touch buttons as it made the Tab look sleek and sexy, now it looks to similar to that damn iPad. :/
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That's the Galaxy S 2, not the Tab 2!
Regards,
Dave

My Opinion

Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.

I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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kenfly said:
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.

I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced

The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.

tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one

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Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
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Dave

For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in

I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.

And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.

rangercaptain said:
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.

Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.

Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied

hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her

kenfly said:
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.

Bandage said:
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.

rangercaptain said:
I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.

So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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+1
and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)

But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.

Xoom any good?

Thinking of getting the xoom over the samsung tab 10.1 are people happy with the xoom?
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If you want a supported device get a xoom. I think the new gtab will launch with 2.1 and get 3.0 in about 8-12 months. (JK, but seriously Samsung has a proven track record of ZERO support for their devices)

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Thinking of getting the xoom over the samsung tab 10.1 are people happy with the xoom?
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You're probably going to get a bunch of people yelling at you for asking a question that has been asked many times over.
I'll answer though.
In short, yes it's good. It's excellent in my opinion.
Currently all Tablets running Honeycomb are going to suffer from having relatively few apps. This was the case when the first iPad was released. Luckily there are plenty of developers out there dedicated to creating quality applications for Honeycomb. Within a month or two, there will be an influx of applications and people will wish they had purchased the Xoom when they had the chance. With production numbers dropping there is no telling what Motorola's next design might be. It could be a locked down version like the Atrix phone kind of similar to what happened with the original Droid that was running vanilla Android. The Droid 2 had Motoblur and a locked bootloader; currently, owners of the original Droid are enjoying Gingerbread by Peter Alfonso.
Here are some current complaints:
1) No SD card support yet
2) LTE Upgrade will take 6 days
3) Application selection is limited
4) Performance seems low for a dual core product
My response:
1) It is coming and currently the unit has 32 GB of internal storage, are you running out already? If so, sit tight and you will be able to expand it to 64GB really cheaply.
2) Better than waiting 3 months on the release of the Xoom altogether, and if you are using it Wifi only like I am tethering it to my Epic 4G, LTE is irrelevant.
3) This will change with time, early adopters syndrome
4) As Google releases new versions of Honeycomb this will be addressed. Additionally there are already kernels bumping the speed from 1Ghz to 1.5Ghz creating a 50% performance increase out of the gates.
Anyway, it's all preference. I love Motorola's products so I got the Xoom.

This is like walking into an Apple store and asking if Macs are any good. What are you expecting?
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Having never owned a tab before, the xoom is my first experience and I think it's awosme.
Matter of fact i loved the xoom so much i dumped my iphone 4 and got an HTC inspire for my everyday phone.
I personally have only one complaint and that is it's very susceptable to glare.

kjdocs said:
Having never owned a tab before, the xoom is my first experience and I think it's awosme.
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Well you're not alone, no one here has probably used the Tab 10.1 before because it isn't out yet! lol.
But seriously OP, coming to a Xoom forum asking a question that's been asked in detail a million times already is ridiculous. You're gonna get pretty polarized answers... Every other post in this forum is about how good/bad the Xoom is, just read.

anywho, back to the OP's question,
i'd wait it out and get that samsung. its thinner, lighter, cheaper, and has a better display than the xoom. but lets not get ahead here, those samsung tablets at CTIA were mockups.
as for updates, do not worry about that, as updates will be coming since the new gtab's will be a near google experience device. CNET has reported that the TouchWiz updates could possibly be an optional update. And tbh, i kinda like the new touchwiz UI.
personally, i'd wait.

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anywho, back to the OP's question,
personally, i'd wait.
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Samsung is evil incarnate, having just come from a Samsung Fascinate, I can tell you touchwiz is the most godawful piece of software you could ever have on your device. Not becuase it isnt good, touchwiz isnt all that bad, but, and this is a BIG bit, YOU WILL NEVER GET UPDATES. EVER. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING BUY OUR NEXT PRODUCT TO GET A SOFTWARE UPGRADE! No thank you. Not playing that game again. Not now. Not ever!

I can't wait to see if the GTabs will get updated. That is one of the main reasons people seem to be using to prevent others from liking them. Luckily the general population could care less about going from Android 2.2, to 2.3, and for those who can't wait... rooting is the alternative. Or buying another device.

Thanks to everyone that posted USEFUL comments.
I was at work and posted from my phone, so didn't want to risk reading 100's of threads.
This would be my first tablet so dont want spend £500+ and get a laggy device.
I have clicked "thanks" for everyone who left a useful comment.

It does not really matter if it's close to stock. Example the g2.
If you're one of those folks that always want the updates first you basically need a Google experience device.
Sammy seems to be the worst out of all the oems though.
Also look at the vodafone nexus one as far as updates that are tied to carrier goes.
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Motorola has already said that the report on cutting back on manufacturing xooms is 100% BS

I'm also considering buying a Xoom... I was going to buy the Galaxy tab 10.1, but yesterdays announcement kind of changed that, i don't want to wait until June.
So i have two options now, buy a Xoom or the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 (now renamed to 10.1v in EU).
About Xoom, i like the idea of clean Android, updates, USB and microSD slot. I have a feeling that Xoom will get more support in XDA forums also.
I'm not sure i like the extra 131g.
About Galaxy Tab 10.1v, i actually like the original design more, i don't care that it's 2mm thicker then the new one.
But I'm sure I don't like the idea of not getting any updates or getting a update with that TouchWiz UX.
Considering all this and that you have actually hold the 730g Xoom in your hand, which would you buy?

The Touchwiz UI they put on the tab isnt the same as one on the phones. But still, even that has to be revamped when new version of android comes out. Samsung is the worst when talking about updates. I liked the design of the original GTab 10.1 too, but thinking of updates, I went ahead and got the xoom. Samsung just needs to stop putting **** on awesome device like that and make the damn thing go into shame.

Motorola xoom , is it good?

hi everyone , ive just bought my motorola xoom mz604 , and i think its awesome because android honeycomb is really good OS, it is fast and smooth
but iam having some problems with installing apps, and i realized that most of them aren't compitable with the xoom, like the android games hawx, assassins creed and modern combat 2...
anyways i just wanted to know the adv and dis-adv of my device from an expert
thnx =)
sorry for my bad english

Answering the question in your title, the xoom IS good... very good, in fact. Sure there are a few apps here and there that do not work, but for the most part, everything runs fine. Additionally, the new scaling option in 3.2 ensures that more apps are functional. I simply love the beauty and elegance of honeycomb, and I still find the xoom to be my preferred method to obtain the honeycomb experience. Plus, being Google's reference HC device, we get all of the updates first.

I like it
3.1/3.2 is brill for emulators too when you connect up a ps3 controller via usb!

Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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kwiggington said:
Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.

Ummmm. Its the "google dev" device. With that said...
Moto is a horrible company
The xoom 3g has turned into the last tab to recieve updates
Still no promised 4g
Sd support is only soso...
I would recommend a samsung device...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom

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...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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I couldn't disagree more, but to each his own...

I'm plenty happy with mine, just a wifi though and no cell network model. That, honestly, is probably the issue with slow updates just like it is for my epic: the company that runs the network it's attached to wants to manage its stuff (aka install crap and extra 'features') and is slowing down the process. Sprint is HORRIBLE with this.
As for why I chose the xoom over others - part of it was price, it was the $400 32gb wifi model off woot.com. Second was that it has actual ports on it (micro-usb, mini-hdmi, etc) and not some proprietary jack *cough*galaxytab*cough* that you need to hook up some dorky dongle to in order to get a usb port.

I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
I have to root this thing to get that basic feature. I think they still haven't figured out the issue that devs figured out. Other than that I like it and apps are slowly starting to catch up.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.

JanetPanic said:
What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Plus no sd slot and only one port
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kwiggington said:
I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Fair Enough. Touchwiz might be able to be disabled when it comes out but maybe not. The xoom comes with a bit of crapware itself, dungeon defender and cordy are the ones that come to mind though there may be more.
It would not be worth the cost to me but to each his own. You could probably find a xoom owner who is fed up with Motorola enough to do a trade.

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I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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I hope it's good Mine should be here tomorrow

I just exchanged the tab must say i like the xoom better and i already have a spare 16gb sd
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drsteven2 said:
I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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I second that
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4g is coming in sept. Per verizon
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Good, solid hardware.
Mine was rooted 5 minutes out of the box, so I have had SD R/W since day one.

gqstatus0685 said:
I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
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I had to fiddle around with the formatting in order to make it work, but I know the problem you had and eventually got around it. Try ntfs, fat, or whatever - just mess around with it in your computer until you find one that it likes. I forget offhand what made mine happy.

should i get the 10.1?

hey guys just looking for some opinnions. i wanna ditch my ipad and looking to get a new tab. you think the galaxy 10.1 would be a worthy upgrade. i do love galaxy devies currently owning the gs2. i appreciate any feedback.

cracjackson said:
hey guys just looking for some opinnions. i wanna ditch my ipad and looking to get a new tab. you think the galaxy 10.1 would be a worthy upgrade. i do love galaxy devies currently owning the gs2. i appreciate any feedback.
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The galaxy tab is a great device... once it has been modified. The stock firmware tends to lag and have reboot issues for power users, those who game and transfer files a lot. On the other end, if you are a very casual gamer who likes to surf the net and read books all on a great screen then the tab may be for you. Although, in all honesty the tablet market is extremely diluted at the moment, so I would recommend that you wait for the market to equalize and spit out a great value and performance tablet.
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hell yes. this tablet is a boss. if you can, might as well wait for those quad core tablets though. they're right around the corner.

Id say no, especially this version at this point in time, honestly if I were you I would just keep the iPad, while it is a locked down piece of ****, it actually does what its supposed to do and it works well, the Gtab is garbo compared to iPads, depending on what you want to spend Id say wait for the iPad3/HD or wait for the next gen version of the Gtab or something comparable
This is coming from someone who likes Android, I have a SGS and a GTab

Jay Rock said:
hell yes. this tablet is a boss. if you can, might as well wait for those quad core tablets though. they're right around the corner.
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I agree with what Jay says. While this tab is great if you can wait I would suggest waiting for the new stuff to come out with ICS on it and will have the faster processors.

DT3CH said:
Id say no, especially this version at this point in time, honestly if I were you I would just keep the iPad, while it is a locked down piece of ****, it actually does what its supposed to do and it works well, the Gtab is garbo compared to iPads, depending on what you want to spend Id say wait for the iPad3/HD or wait for the next gen version of the Gtab or something comparable
This is coming from someone who likes Android, I have a SGS and a GTab
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You're actually saying my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-P7150 running Task 14, Pershoots latest kernel, oc'd to 1400, SuperCharger V6, most any app I could want, and etc... without any issues what so ever is "garbo" compare to something you just referred to as a "locked down piece of ****"?
You've got to be kidding. I guess you could just be an apple fanboi sarcasm in the fanboi crack.
But really that's what you just said.
I'm not saying you're wrong within your opinion of what to do. I think you are, but I'm not saying that.
I just can't believe what you just compared my tab to. LOL
Now back on topic....
As far as what to keep, I would keep both myself, until the next iPad and actual successor to the tab comes out so you can compare then. While in the meantime while you wait you'll be able to personally experience both the iPad and tab to help ease your decision when you decide what direction you want to go. It could be you even want to get a completely different brand than Apple or Samsung. Then you can sell then both, just the one you don't want, or neither and not even get anything else. Leave your options open and compare both before getting rid of either one for now. Is my suggestion.
EDIT: Sorry I got so involved with the comment of my tab being "garbo" compared to a "locked down piece of ****" I forgot what the op stated.
so actually, if you're not completely happy with the iPad I'd get rid of it before a new one comes out and makes the one you're not happy with worth half of what it is now. But would I wait on getting a tablet? No. But I couldn't live without mine now. But if you can live without then I would suggest doing so, as the new to come devices, even the iPad, look to be really nice improvements on the tab as it is right now. Sorry not a definite answer as to what to do really just something more to think about.
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are you bloody kidding me? G-Tab "garbo" when compared to an ipAD?!
OKay, maybe when its on stock ROm... no arguing there.
BUT after flashing it with a custom rom and overclocked to 1.2-14.ghz? Dude... I am loving my 10.1v to every single detail!
Its so much easier and fast to use. no itunes no syncing!
I can view flash browsers, open any video file, i have a CALCULATOR! I have a tablet dedicated OS!
Just wait till ICS becomes stable on 10.1&10.1v... ICS is damn smooth and damn fast!
Imo, it may not be as smooth as IOS but its really close but one thing is for sure... ITS FAST!

Thanks guys for your opinions. Yea I definitely would throw a custom rom on there. I mostly just use the ipad for internet and Netflix HBO go. The Garbage iipad Im using the safari always fcs its kinda annoying.
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Benzoman said:
You're actually saying my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-P7150 running Task 14, Pershoots latest kernel, oc'd to 1400, SuperCharger V6, most any app I could want, and etc... without any issues what so ever is "garbo" compare to something you just referred to as a "locked down piece of ****"?
You've got to be kidding. I guess you could just be an apple fanboi sarcasm in the fanboi crack.
But really that's what you just said.
I'm not saying you're wrong within your opinion of what to do. I think you are, but I'm not saying that.
I just can't believe what you just compared my tab to. LOL
Now back on topic....
As far as what to keep, I would keep both myself, until the next iPad and actual successor to the tab comes out so you can compare then. While in the meantime while you wait you'll be able to personally experience both the iPad and tab to help ease your decision when you decide what direction you want to go. It could be you even want to get a completely different brand than Apple or Samsung. Then you can sell then both, just the one you don't want, or neither and not even get anything else. Leave your options open and compare both before getting rid of either one for now. Is my suggestion.
EDIT: Sorry I got so involved with the comment of my tab being "garbo" compared to a "locked down piece of ****" I forgot what the op stated.
so actually, if you're not completely happy with the iPad I'd get rid of it before a new one comes out and makes the one you're not happy with worth half of what it is now. But would I wait on getting a tablet? No. But I couldn't live without mine now. But if you can live without then I would suggest doing so, as the new to come devices, even the iPad, look to be really nice improvements on the tab as it is right now. Sorry not a definite answer as to what to do really just something more to think about.
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LOL, I knew this would get some peoples hackles up, Im not a fanboy of any product, to me that is one of the stupidest things you can be.... it is an electronic device after all, for some one to get bent out of shape because someone else thinks your "electronic" device is garbo as I put it is beyond moronic, I base the way I view things on how it actually performs not on pop culture and what all the cool kids are saying, I worked at Toyota before and I would tell people some of them are crap some of them are good, just as I would with whatever other manufacturer they were asking about
I have never owned an Apple product, they are far to restrictive and they are trendy which puts me off
Im offering up my opinion not based on love of a device/manufacturer, Im basing this on the fact that my Sister has an iPad and IMO its an overall better product compared to MY Gtab < notice the emphasis on me saying "MY" since no where in my post did I say YOUR tab was garbo
Geeze the way you ball washed a product almost gives the appearance of you having a relationship with it or having a name for it
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are you bloody kidding me? G-Tab "garbo" when compared to an ipAD?!
OKay, maybe when its on stock ROm... no arguing there.
BUT after flashing it with a custom rom and overclocked to 1.2-14.ghz? Dude... I am loving my 10.1v to every single detail!
Its so much easier and fast to use. no itunes no syncing!
I can view flash browsers, open any video file, i have a CALCULATOR! I have a tablet dedicated OS!
Just wait till ICS becomes stable on 10.1&10.1v... ICS is damn smooth and damn fast!
Imo, it may not be as smooth as IOS but its really close but one thing is for sure... ITS FAST!
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Im on the latest ICS KANG, the Gtab is at its best while on this ROM, especially compared to stock HC, no doubt about that but as I mentioned above, overall the iPad is a better product IMO

This Tablet ROCKS.. I have no real need to upgrade or wait for the new ones that will come..
Task 14 with pershoot kernel and OC @ 1.2 is fast speedy and rock solid..
CM9 OC @ 1.2 is nice as well...
Get it and enjoy as waiting for what is rumored is a never ending cycle.. As soon as the newer ones are released something with higher specs will be rumored...
Get what you want and enjoy it..

Simply from an evolutionary perspective it doesn't make sense to buy the current G-Tab now. The G-Tab 2 is supposed to be less expensive but it'll still be first-gen h/w. The Note 10.1 is interesting because of the uniqueness of the S-Pen. It also has a 1.4GHz Exynos processor and I'm guessing a Mali GPU which will be head and shoulders above the G-Tab 1 and 2's performance.
The Asus Prime's running Teg3 but it's been a disaster with tons of issues you can review on their forum. It's rumored that'll the Asus Infinity which will have a HD display may replace it in the April/May timeframe. Acer's also got a Teg3 device launching in France this month that's already passed through the FCC. The Samsung 11.6 with a higher resolution display than the iPad3 will most likely rule all later in the year. But the Exynos 5250 chip that powers it isn't supposed to reach mass production until Q2 so it'll probably be summer before it’s available. All the newer devices come with ICS.
So if you've made up your mind to make the switch from iPad, I'd wait at least until the Note 10.1 becomes available. I'm guessing it won't be cheap and you may have to import it from Europe to get it sooner. If you're willing to look at other manufacturers follow Acer and Asus to see when their new Teg3 devices are released. Or, you can wait even longer for the Holy Grail which will be the 11.6
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DT3CH said:
Im on the latest ICS KANG, the Gtab is at its best while on this ROM, especially compared to stock HC, no doubt about that but as I mentioned above, overall the iPad is a better product IMO
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The iPad better? LOL.. Opinions are like..... Well you know...
iPads are OK but they are mainly geared toward less technically inclined people.. No widgets, no customization ect... PASS... Sold my iPad2 to get the Tab and am glad I did..

I was thinking about waiting for the gtab2 but I read it was pretty similar to the first gen one. The original gtab is only 400 at best buy. I just want something that's good for movies and Internet. I like Samsung cause all their devices is so easy to root and flash.

cracjackson said:
I was thinking about waiting for the gtab2 but I read it was pretty similar to the first gen one. The original gtab is only 400 at best buy. I just want something that's good for movies and Internet. I like Samsung cause all their devices is so easy to root and flash.
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I picked up another one the other day off Craigslist.. 16GB white with leather case and USB adapter for $300..

DT3CH said:
Id say no, especially this version at this point in time, honestly if I were you I would just keep the iPad, while it is a locked down piece of ****, it actually does what its supposed to do and it works well, the Gtab is garbo compared to iPads, depending on what you want to spend Id say wait for the iPad3/HD or wait for the next gen version of the Gtab or something comparable
This is coming from someone who likes Android, I have a SGS and a GTab
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LOL, I knew this would get some peoples hackles up, Im not a fanboy of any product, to me that is one of the stupidest things you can be.... it is an electronic device after all, for some one to get bent out of shape because someone else thinks your "electronic" device is garbo as I put it is beyond moronic, I base the way I view things on how it actually performs not on pop culture and what all the cool kids are saying, I worked at Toyota before and I would tell people some of them are crap some of them are good, just as I would with whatever other manufacturer they were asking about
I have never owned an Apple product, they are far to restrictive and they are trendy which puts me off
Im offering up my opinion not based on love of a device/manufacturer, Im basing this on the fact that my Sister has an iPad and IMO its an overall better product compared to MY Gtab < notice the emphasis on me saying "MY" since no where in my post did I say YOUR tab was garbo
Geeze the way you ball washed a product almost gives the appearance of you having a relationship with it or having a name for it
Im on the latest ICS KANG, the Gtab is at its best while on this ROM, especially compared to stock HC, no doubt about that but as I mentioned above, overall the iPad is a better product IMO
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First, your statements I changed to red in your quotes above are contradicting each other as to what you are implying you actually you said. and the first statement of "the Gtab is garbo compared to iPads" can or should be interpreted as including everyone's Gtab.
Second, (your own words are in green), I didn't get my "hackles up" I defended the Gtab as I have it set up and showed my disbelief of your stating "the Gtab is garbo compared to iPads" here in a Galaxy Tab 10.1 section of the forum. I'm reminded of quote from an old British sitcom "I'm glad I don't have your nerve in my tooth!"
I say this because as you state yourself "LOL, I knew this would get some peoples hackles up" So you knew the controversy you were trying to create but did so anyway? I doubt it. I think you were just stating your opinion which you knew many here would disagree with, not intentionally trying to start any pissing matches, but I could be wrong.
To end my I rambling, I do take offense to some of your so called "opinions", as direct and intentional insults towards myself as they were directly in response to my post. Such as this one 'for some one to get bent out of shape because someone else thinks your "electronic" device is garbo as I put it is beyond moronic" So I'm beyond moronic because I chose to state my opinions and defend my Gtab, just as you stated your opinions but didn't defend any device of your own? I may think the same of you and your opinions but never resorted to publicly posting this low level of insult.
This following is definitely trying to be insulting and directly rude. "Geeze the way you ball washed a product almost gives the appearance of you having a relationship with it or having a name for it" I think this is completely uncalled for. Although I do have a name for it. LMAO It's name is "my tab".
Then, I'm having a relationship with it? Not even going to ask your intentions with that statement, though I think it's obvious what you're suggesting here.
Since this OP is all relative to device setups and personal opinions, as you stated yourself, and I respect your opinions, however much I disagree. Though none of the personal attacks were called for.
You might reply and correct me where I could be thinking wrong.
But with my post already taking the OP off topic I hesitate to suggest it, but that's not for me to decide.
Just thought I'd write an essay today I guess.

cracjackson said:
I was thinking about waiting for the gtab2 but I read it was pretty similar to the first gen one. The original gtab is only 400 at best buy. I just want something that's good for movies and Internet. I like Samsung cause all their devices is so easy to root and flash.
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If you're looking to play movies locally (vs. streaming) then stay away from anything based on Teg2 (including the G-Tab 1). The GPU is pitiful. If the 1GHz chip in the G-Tab 2 is Exynos/Mali it will be a far better choice than the Teg2. If you store your video files in 1080P/MKV Teg2 just chokes and you'll have to re-encode them all to get them to play. Nvidia's said they've lost Samsung as a customer so it's hard to say what chip will be in the G-Tab 2 and other upcoming Samsung tablets. For streaming video and Internet any of the first-gen devices are fine.

I'm thinking of getting one from eBay
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Would it be a bad idea, I've really no interest in one of the quad cores. The Tegra2 is more than enough power; And seeing as how CM9 nightlies just started for this device, it only makes me want it even more. I'd use it for just browsing internet, skype, etc, same stuff I use my E4GT for but just on a bigger screen. I absolutely love my E4GT and from what I've seen no other tablet has as good of a display as the galaxy tab series.

Ophois said:
I'm thinking of getting one from eBay
This or this
Would it be a bad idea, I've really no interest in one of the quad cores. The Tegra2 is more than enough power; And seeing as how CM9 nightlies just started for this device, it only makes me want it even more. I'd use it for just browsing internet, skype, etc, same stuff I use my E4GT for but just on a bigger screen. I absolutely love my E4GT and from what I've seen no other tablet has as good of a display as the galaxy tab series.
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I do Craigslist before eBay because at least with Craigslist you and look at / inspect the device before buying...

DT3CH said:
Id say no, especially this version at this point in time, honestly if I were you I would just keep the iPad, while it is a locked down piece of ****, it actually does what its supposed to do and it works well, the Gtab is garbo compared to iPads, depending on what you want to spend Id say wait for the iPad3/HD or wait for the next gen version of the Gtab or something comparable
This is coming from someone who likes Android, I have a SGS and a GTab
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I totally agree with you. If you need something that works well and gets everything done without headaches an iPad is by far a best product at the moment, if you don't depend on a tablet for real work but just for fun or tinkering then a Galaxy Tab may work as well as any other tablet out there I guess.
Sadly right now Android on tablets is a half baked product at best...
Sincerely,
A Galaxy Tab owner

DT3CH said:
LOL, I knew this would get some peoples hackles up, Im not a fanboy of any product, to me that is one of the stupidest things you can be.... it is an electronic device after all, for some one to get bent out of shape because someone else thinks your "electronic" device is garbo as I put it is beyond moronic, I base the way I view things on how it actually performs not on pop culture and what all the cool kids are saying, I worked at Toyota before and I would tell people some of them are crap some of them are good, just as I would with whatever other manufacturer they were asking about
I have never owned an Apple product, they are far to restrictive and they are trendy which puts me off
Im offering up my opinion not based on love of a device/manufacturer, Im basing this on the fact that my Sister has an iPad and IMO its an overall better product compared to MY Gtab < notice the emphasis on me saying "MY" since no where in my post did I say YOUR tab was garbo
Geeze the way you ball washed a product almost gives the appearance of you having a relationship with it or having a name for it
Im on the latest ICS KANG, the Gtab is at its best while on this ROM, especially compared to stock HC, no doubt about that but as I mentioned above, overall the iPad is a better product IMO
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Don't lie you are a fanboy for even making a smug b.s statement like that, disappointing we have people on here say ignorant thing's like you.
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