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Galaxy Tab 2 - 10.1inch, Honeycomb?

Just saw this on Engadget (via Pulse, hence the URL) and thought people might enjoy the read.
The Tab 2 seems to be following in the footsteps of the Xoom and LG Slate with the screen size. The article mentions no news or rumors of the destiny for our beloved Tabs but maybe the Samsung event will give us the good (or bad) news about the Honeycomb update.
I'm sure we'll 3.0 love as soon a system dump is available, but it'd still be nice of Samsung to give an official update seeing as this is the Tab which (pretty much) started the Android Tablet evolution.
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i am very happy with my 7" tab. not too big not too small just perfect, the 10.1" will be a bit to big, but i do agree that we should get the 3.0 upgrade soon.....

Ok one of the main reasons I bought my tab (other than how amazing cool it is) is due to the 7" screen. I dont want a huge 10" screen!. I have a 32" bravia for a pc monitor and a 10.1" netbook, I got the tab for portability! I wish they would leave it at 7"

I sure hope they don't increase the screen size, that is one of the great differentiating factors between the Tab and the iPad. I loved my iPad but it was too big to carry easily. All of the new Honeycomb announced tablet's have the bigger screen and I was counting on Samsung sticking with the smaller form factor. Although the rumors of Apple considering a 7" iPad are interesting and would tempt me to back. The biggest disappointment with the Tab is the sluggishness I get and no Android browser I've tried is as smooth and responsive as Safari on the iPad.

I have reliable information saying this will be some sort of official google tablet(maybe for the european market?). The hardware will also blow everyones minds somehow. Don't know any details about that, but the competition will supposedly be playing catchup for quite some while before they get there. I guess it will be some fancy new screen at least. I'm looking forward to sunday as samsung will tell us everything:-D
and yes, it will be running honeycomb.

Whatever, i hope it is a google tab made by samsung. Either way samsung fecking sucks ass. I've had a captivate since the day before launch and its yet to receive froyo. What the hell is the hold up? I learned my lesson and not to buy their proprietary bull****. I jumped ship and got the nook cause of the development and me not having the patience for samsung's bull**** and lies. Yeah wait and hope for your dump. Good luck porting that. Even with the nexus s galaxy s still hasn't been ported. Knock knock .... anyone home. As you can tell, i have lost my patience for samsung.
I'll check back in 6months. I'd almost be willing to place a wager. FU samsung FU

TheTodFather said:
Whatever, i hope it is a google tab made by samsung. Either way samsung ****ing sucks ass. I've had a captivate since the day before launch and its yet to receive froyo. What the hell is the hold up? I learned my lesson and not to buy their proprietary bull****. I jumped ship and got the nook cause of the development and me not having the patience for samsung's bull**** and lies. Yeah wait and hope for your dump. Good luck porting that. Even with the nexus s galaxy s still hasn't been ported. Knock knock .... anyone home. As you can tell, i have lost my patience for samsung.
I'll check back in 6months. I'd almost be willing to place a wager. FU samsung FU
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I'm sorry to be off topic from OP but your post is fubared to say the least.
You complain that Samsung doesn't release any update. You jump ship to get the Nook and use a custom ROM? LoL I guess Barnes & Noble released Honeycomb for Nook eh?

The rumor mill is going strong today.
Rumors have said the iPad will be available in 7" form factor and now the Tab will be in 10" form factor.
Wouldn't that be funny, each side copying the other after each saying the other size was not good!
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quattr0 said:
I'm sorry to be off topic from OP but your post is fubared to say the least.
You complain that Samsung doesn't release any update. You jump ship to get the Nook and use a custom ROM? LoL I guess Barnes & Noble released Honeycomb for Nook eh?
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+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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GANJDROID said:
+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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WHo said anything about porting this to a phone? Well since the nook is an omap it shares a lot of similarities with droidx, and since motorolla dosnt have all this proprietary bs that they dont release code for. So when trying to port a nexus s to galaxy s, one would think it would be simple. So when you guys get that dump i seriously doubt it will ported. It's just my opinion. That would be samsungs fault cause a lot of their drivers are proprietary since they make the hardware. So if they don't release code then code will have to be reversed engineered and that takes time...lots of it. Well you can see where i'm going with this. Samsung could of released info today about how the new tab and how they are going to upgrade their other one that was released 6 months ago but they didn't and they don't give a fuk, seriously.
] About jumping ship? I was just saying that if you want upgrades in os's , well , samsung hasn't shown that they give a rats ass. I learned the hard way just like you guys will. I happen to choose the nook because of the hardware and how easily it is to port. Unlike samsung again with their proprietary drivers and what not. This isn't a nook vs tab debate. I think the galaxy tab is beautiful hardware is sexy but the buck stop there. Samsung needs to show us that they care and i just don't have that faith. So good luck with the dump. Hope that works out.

GANJDROID said:
+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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Like i said this isn't a nook vs samsung tab debate. I was saying that the nook has drivers and all the code to boot making it truly open. Where as samsung is closed. IF samsung was so closed you guys and gals could already be honeycombin it up. But samsung sucks till they make their code truly open. (drivers)

TheTodFather said:
Like i said this isn't a nook vs samsung tab debate. I was saying that the nook has drivers and all the code to boot making it truly open. Where as samsung is closed. IF samsung was so closed you guys and gals could already be honeycombin it up. But samsung sucks till they make their code truly open. (drivers)
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I misunderstood your phone comment, I thought you meant porting Honeycomb to the Nexus/Galaxy S, not Nexus to Galaxy
I haven't looked into the Nook myself so I'm unfamiliar with the specs/features of it and the work developers has done to it is shocking and amazing.
I agree wwith the comment about Samsung being *****es with their upgrades. But I personally think that with the developers we have, I think we *might* be able to pull off something spectacular with this incredible device.
Most of us jumped into it buying the Tab knowing of Samsungs backgroynd but that's the risk everyone takes with devices, right? I came from a Desire and since FroYo, we've been screwed by HTC. No Sense UI 2.0 eventhough ports of the Desire HD & Z have proven it could cope. All manufacturers do it in their own way.
*Hopefully* Samsung will change their ways.
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I fully agree it would be unjust for the galaxy not to get some samsung love. But love and sumsung is almost an oxymoron. Specially when sammy's just getting in on this whole "open" thing. If they don't ;produce then this will be the straw that breaks the camels back. SO in the meantime let me say FU samy, shame on you.

I will be pissed if the tab 2 is not 7 inches. Lame.
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Update from Engadget, an 'official' picture was leaked. Not sure about everyone else, but i think the new menu button looks fugly I preferred the touch buttons as it made the Tab look sleek and sexy, now it looks to similar to that damn iPad. :/
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Im glad its going to be 10inch, makes me feel better for having a 7inch tab

Seems to be a lot of misunderstanding in this thread
Samsung always said there would be a 7" AND a 10" form factor... They are just rolling out the 10" with the latest hardware and Software (HC). Nothing surprising here. I ma not sure you can call that a GT2... It's just the 10" GT
Hopefully down the road they will update the 7" as well. nd I think it's a good thing they don't do it immediately !! I'd be pissed if my GT is immediately outdated...

I'm taking my Tab back and waiting out the release of the Xoom and Tab 2. I think right now was the wrong time to buy.

I for one do not think I am going to buy a new Galaxy Tab just for a few extra inches. I mean come on samsung it is the same galaxy tab just a small bit bigger...and also weren't they the ones that first made a speech about how 7" tablets are more protable then 10"....
And on that note, If for some reason Honeycomb didn't get put on my 7" I would prob buy another tablet...but not this one.

GANJDROID said:
http://pulsene.ws/11anK
Update from Engadget, an 'official' picture was leaked. Not sure about everyone else, but i think the new menu button looks fugly I preferred the touch buttons as it made the Tab look sleek and sexy, now it looks to similar to that damn iPad. :/
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That's the Galaxy S 2, not the Tab 2!
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Dave

[Q] is xoom the "developer tablet" ?

will/is xoom the official developer tablet? some how like the first T-mobile G1?
this concerns me as i plan to get it next month, but if its not going to get regular updates from google, it might stop me from getting it.
as other tablets like samsung and LG has better looks and feel from different aspect.
my main concern is i would like to get latest updates from google.

It got an update to a new point release in the first week. As long as it stays one of the only tablets on the market, you can bet Google will be watching it and forcing moto to update it.
After that I dunno, but seeing as how the device is completely hacker friendly, we will have software updates indefinitely.
If you want to ensure that you barely ever get updates, go Samsung.
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qwerp_ said:
will/is xoom the official developer tablet? some how like the first T-mobile G1?
this concerns me as i plan to get it next month, but if its not going to get regular updates from google, it might stop me from getting it.
as other tablets like samsung and LG has better looks and feel from different aspect.
my main concern is i would like to get latest updates from google.
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it actually makes more sense to think of it like the OG DROID, even though the offical updates have stopped, the bootloader is unlocked and allows for custom ROMs to be loaded

qwerp_ said:
will/is xoom the official developer tablet? some how like the first T-mobile G1?
this concerns me as i plan to get it next month, but if its not going to get regular updates from google, it might stop me from getting it.
as other tablets like samsung and LG has better looks and feel from different aspect.
my main concern is i would like to get latest updates from google.
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Its definitely not the "official" but I think its safe to assume its the unofficial. Google gave Motorola exclusivity to the honeycomb OS which is why its out much sooner then any other honeycomb tablet. This also has stock honeycomb. There is no motoblur/ Sense UI or any user interface built on top of the Honeycomb. So to update it, it definitely will be easier than the tablets that have these UI built on top of the OS.
This is Googles Debut Operating System. This is just Googles Baby as Motorola's and I'm sure they are going to make sure its taken care of.

Bauxite said:
It got an update to a new point release in the first week. As long as it stays one of the only tablets on the market, you can bet Google will be watching it and forcing moto to update it.
After that I dunno, but seeing as how the device is completely hacker friendly, we will have software updates indefinitely.
If you want to ensure that you barely ever get updates, go Samsung.
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The Xoom won't be the only Honeycomb tablet in another month.
The Samsung devices are going to be stock Google experience devices as well, and will get updates at the same pace as the Xoom.

martonikaj said:
The Xoom won't be the only Honeycomb tablet in another month.
The Samsung devices are going to be stock Google experience devices as well, and will get updates at the same pace as the Xoom.
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yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..

qwerp_ said:
yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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Xoom has USB host.
The galaxy tab 10.1 has one port, and its not compatible with anything and its not standard. You have to buy Samsung accessories to make it do basic things like HDMI out.
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qwerp_ said:
yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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I cannot vouch for Samsung, I have never had one of their Android Phones. But I have a Motorola Droid since it first came out, which was a couple Android OS versions ago, and they have been very good at keeping it up to date.

qwerp_ said:
yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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After having my Xoom with me everywhere I go since launch and using it countless hours a day and still have 40-60% battery life I can't imagine ever needing a different tablet with "better battery life" than the Xoom. The battery has been nothing short of incredible and i have been amazed as i have become accustomed to carrying a spare battery and micro USB everywhere I go since having android phones. I personally will never buy samsung as even if it is guarenteed updates as it is stock that doesn't guarentee that samsung will not make a newerr tablet and leave it behind. They have shown this countless times in the past and motorola has taken care of its other devices (even the milestone finally got froyo the other day and the galaxy s devices here in America are still lacking it) plus getting 4G upgrade and expandable memory makes the Xoom a much better buy than the samsung 10.1 at least in my eyes.

thanks for all the input... still waiting for it to launch in the uk..

qwerp_ said:
will/is xoom the official developer tablet? some how like the first T-mobile G1?
this concerns me as i plan to get it next month, but if its not going to get regular updates from google, it might stop me from getting it.
as other tablets like samsung and LG has better looks and feel from different aspect.
my main concern is i would like to get latest updates from google.
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Google will be giving out Xooms to devs attending I/O this year, which is a good sign that Google does intend it to be a dev platform.

ZanshinG1 said:
Google will be giving out Xooms to devs attending I/O this year, which is a good sign that Google does intend it to be a dev platform.
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its a good point. but i remembered that google gave out the htc EVO as well last year..

qwerp_ said:
yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is TFT... Viewing angles aren't as good as the Xoom's from what I've read. Where are you reading better battery life? Isn't the Galaxy Tab 10.1 the same Tegra 2 processor? Only way it'd be better is if they packed a massive battery in it, but if it's as thin as they're saying, doubtful.

qwerp_ said:
its a good point. but i remembered that google gave out the htc EVO as well last year..
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I thought they gave out the Nexus One last year?

qwerp_ said:
yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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The Tab will probably be cheaper, but from all indications doesn't have HDMI out, or an SDcard slot. The battery is probably going to be a bit larger though for sure. Somewhere in the 6900mAh area.
The screen is expected to be about the same as the Xoom's, but I doubt they'd ever do SuperAmoled+ on a 10" if they're looking to hit the $499 price point.

Elysian893 said:
I thought they gave out the Nexus One last year?
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http://www.androidtapp.com/google-gives-htc-evos-to-all-google-io-2010-attendees/

martonikaj said:
The battery is probably going to be a bit larger though for sure. Somewhere in the 6900mAh area.
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Yeah, from that 11 minute video from AndroidHD, here are some basic specs they gave out on the 10" tab.
- 6860mAh
- 599g
- 246.2 x 170.4 x 10.9 (mm)
- Sorry OP for going more off topic. /threadjack
Can't wait for my xoom to ship (Amazon).

eaglecomm said:
Yeah, from that 11 minute video from AndroidHD, here are some basic specs they gave out on the 10" tab.
- 6860mAh
- 599g
- 246.2 x 170.4 x 10.9 (mm)
- Sorry OP for going more off topic. /threadjack
Can't wait for my xoom to ship (Amazon).
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should be said I'll save people the google. 599 grams is 1.3lbs. The Samsung one seems to have more plastic than the Xoom to cut weight.
And the Xoom's battery is 6500mAh I think? So 6860mAh isn't too much bigger. And the Xoom's battery life is already great.

Yes it'll be like the nexus one for tablets which is a sign of many good things to come

PaulG1488 said:
Yes it'll be like the nexus one for tablets which is a sign of many good things to come
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If it was like the nexus then why don't they sell the xoom on Google's site

pls! giv me some suggestion

samsung just announced that both of their tab will be released on early SUMMER n june 8 means i have to wait till june for buying anyone?
i m fed up of waiting, so i 'd like to ask xoom users, are xoom worth to buy? wat is it's bad?

If you have decided on buy an Android tablet, I don't see any reason why Galaxy tab's will be better than Xoom...
I can't see any negative to Xoom when you compare Galaxy tabs, but there are a few benefits,
Xoom comes with vanilla honeycomb which is million times better than any other 'skins'. Also you will get updates much faster and don't have to wait for Samsung to port it.
Look wise I like the Xoom..

I read an article yesterday that stated samsung is using a custom honeycomb UI so I lost interest immediately when I read that. I enjoy my xoom and I will stick with it at this point. I have also read that it feels like cheap plastic, which is another huge drawback in my opinion. To me a better screen isn't worth molested android, especially a version that is not only buggy and incomplete, but also total revamp of the whole UI, I foresee samsung screwing it up with a laggy interface as usual.
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The thread should be merged with this one. Maybe you'll find more inspiration there.

btw, last time i watched a review and it said that "the marketplace need an update to view all apps". does the marketplace updated now n can view all of the apps?

I would go with the Google Experience device. Chances are you will receive updates more frequently on the Xoom than the Galaxy 10.1. Plus TouchWiz is on this thing according to Engadget. Not sure I would want that screwing up my Honeycomb greatness!

does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?

omnia1994 said:
does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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It is quite heavy. different people have different tolerences though. It will be about .30lbs heavier than the 10.1 galaxy tab.

omnia1994 said:
does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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Well any tablet when held long enough will feel heavy. Depends on how comfortable you are holding the tablet and how strong your arms and wrists and fingers are haha..
Perhaps you can try holding a book of similar weight and see if you can stand it.

thx for everyone =)
but i just read about ppl said xoom will be sstop producing on june.
will this cause it lacks of accessories n software update in the future? is this true?

I read that the TouchWiz 4.0 is not deeply integrated into the Honeycomb (find the CNET article about this).
They are just bunch of apps and widgets. Even the 10.1 will be launched first as stock, which users can (or forced) to download the TouchWiz 4.0 via update.
I am not too worried with this TouchWiz thing, because XDA devs will root and we will be able to install custom ROM "anyway" Unless the bootloader is LOCKED and encrypted (like Motorola phones), history said Samsung has never done that.
So, I am now OK with this TouchWiz. From what I look in the hands-on video, it is still Honeycomb.
And also, living in Europe, Samsung gave updates to their phones here
So yeah, pretty much covered about the update.
I really like the hardware profile of this Samsung 8.9"
- Lighter at 470 gram versus 725 gram of Xoom.
- Thinner at 8.6"
- especially the PLS screen which is even better than the IPS of iPad2, no contest with Xoom in this area.

i heard that there's issue that xoom cant read sdcard? isit true? =(

omnia1994 said:
i heard that there's issue that xoom cant read sdcard? isit true? =(
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just answered your other thread, yes, the SDcard doesn't work yet on the Xoom.

weight of xoom
im pretty sure that metal weighs more than plastic, so as far as how heavy it is....
i mean, c'mon..think outside the box people.
btw..my xoom is freakin awesome, and had a apple guy convert from ipad to xoom this past week. freakin sweet.

If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.

Kcarpenter said:
If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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^ These words are true.

Kcarpenter said:
If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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True...two companies I really REALLY dislike and that's samsung and Sony, over the years they have royally screwed me over, Samsung stop caring as soon as you hand over the cash and Sony screw you once they have your cash
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I love my xoom, and don't think i'd get any other HC tablet right now. I will say, I do like 8.9" and my only hardward wish with the xoom is for it be lighter and thinner.

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If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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My thoughts exactly.
The history of Samsung updating their products is enough for me to say no thank you to any Android device they make. The only time I would consider is something like the Nexus S - stock Android with no Sense/Blur/Touchwiz and gets updates first.
Furthermore, am I the only one that cringes a little when you see/hear/read the word "Touchwiz"? Sounds like Touchjizz to me. Just sounds like a really cheesy name for a skin.
I honestly don't understand what everyone is up in arms about the weight of the Xoom is. Either get a dock or portfolio that can prop it up or lift some weights. Like 2 lb weights because the friggin Xoom weighs even less than that!
Sure, anything gets heavy after a while. But I have yet to run into a situation where I'm fatigued from messing with the Xoom. Honestly, the weight difference between any tablets shouldn't be an issue, unless it's half/double the weight of something (or something else extreme). I like the way the back feels. Sometimes it seems like people just want to find something else to criticize.

Xoom any good?

Thinking of getting the xoom over the samsung tab 10.1 are people happy with the xoom?
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If you want a supported device get a xoom. I think the new gtab will launch with 2.1 and get 3.0 in about 8-12 months. (JK, but seriously Samsung has a proven track record of ZERO support for their devices)

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Thinking of getting the xoom over the samsung tab 10.1 are people happy with the xoom?
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You're probably going to get a bunch of people yelling at you for asking a question that has been asked many times over.
I'll answer though.
In short, yes it's good. It's excellent in my opinion.
Currently all Tablets running Honeycomb are going to suffer from having relatively few apps. This was the case when the first iPad was released. Luckily there are plenty of developers out there dedicated to creating quality applications for Honeycomb. Within a month or two, there will be an influx of applications and people will wish they had purchased the Xoom when they had the chance. With production numbers dropping there is no telling what Motorola's next design might be. It could be a locked down version like the Atrix phone kind of similar to what happened with the original Droid that was running vanilla Android. The Droid 2 had Motoblur and a locked bootloader; currently, owners of the original Droid are enjoying Gingerbread by Peter Alfonso.
Here are some current complaints:
1) No SD card support yet
2) LTE Upgrade will take 6 days
3) Application selection is limited
4) Performance seems low for a dual core product
My response:
1) It is coming and currently the unit has 32 GB of internal storage, are you running out already? If so, sit tight and you will be able to expand it to 64GB really cheaply.
2) Better than waiting 3 months on the release of the Xoom altogether, and if you are using it Wifi only like I am tethering it to my Epic 4G, LTE is irrelevant.
3) This will change with time, early adopters syndrome
4) As Google releases new versions of Honeycomb this will be addressed. Additionally there are already kernels bumping the speed from 1Ghz to 1.5Ghz creating a 50% performance increase out of the gates.
Anyway, it's all preference. I love Motorola's products so I got the Xoom.

This is like walking into an Apple store and asking if Macs are any good. What are you expecting?
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Having never owned a tab before, the xoom is my first experience and I think it's awosme.
Matter of fact i loved the xoom so much i dumped my iphone 4 and got an HTC inspire for my everyday phone.
I personally have only one complaint and that is it's very susceptable to glare.

kjdocs said:
Having never owned a tab before, the xoom is my first experience and I think it's awosme.
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Well you're not alone, no one here has probably used the Tab 10.1 before because it isn't out yet! lol.
But seriously OP, coming to a Xoom forum asking a question that's been asked in detail a million times already is ridiculous. You're gonna get pretty polarized answers... Every other post in this forum is about how good/bad the Xoom is, just read.

anywho, back to the OP's question,
i'd wait it out and get that samsung. its thinner, lighter, cheaper, and has a better display than the xoom. but lets not get ahead here, those samsung tablets at CTIA were mockups.
as for updates, do not worry about that, as updates will be coming since the new gtab's will be a near google experience device. CNET has reported that the TouchWiz updates could possibly be an optional update. And tbh, i kinda like the new touchwiz UI.
personally, i'd wait.

aohus said:
anywho, back to the OP's question,
personally, i'd wait.
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Samsung is evil incarnate, having just come from a Samsung Fascinate, I can tell you touchwiz is the most godawful piece of software you could ever have on your device. Not becuase it isnt good, touchwiz isnt all that bad, but, and this is a BIG bit, YOU WILL NEVER GET UPDATES. EVER. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING BUY OUR NEXT PRODUCT TO GET A SOFTWARE UPGRADE! No thank you. Not playing that game again. Not now. Not ever!

I can't wait to see if the GTabs will get updated. That is one of the main reasons people seem to be using to prevent others from liking them. Luckily the general population could care less about going from Android 2.2, to 2.3, and for those who can't wait... rooting is the alternative. Or buying another device.

Thanks to everyone that posted USEFUL comments.
I was at work and posted from my phone, so didn't want to risk reading 100's of threads.
This would be my first tablet so dont want spend £500+ and get a laggy device.
I have clicked "thanks" for everyone who left a useful comment.

It does not really matter if it's close to stock. Example the g2.
If you're one of those folks that always want the updates first you basically need a Google experience device.
Sammy seems to be the worst out of all the oems though.
Also look at the vodafone nexus one as far as updates that are tied to carrier goes.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Motorola has already said that the report on cutting back on manufacturing xooms is 100% BS

I'm also considering buying a Xoom... I was going to buy the Galaxy tab 10.1, but yesterdays announcement kind of changed that, i don't want to wait until June.
So i have two options now, buy a Xoom or the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 (now renamed to 10.1v in EU).
About Xoom, i like the idea of clean Android, updates, USB and microSD slot. I have a feeling that Xoom will get more support in XDA forums also.
I'm not sure i like the extra 131g.
About Galaxy Tab 10.1v, i actually like the original design more, i don't care that it's 2mm thicker then the new one.
But I'm sure I don't like the idea of not getting any updates or getting a update with that TouchWiz UX.
Considering all this and that you have actually hold the 730g Xoom in your hand, which would you buy?

The Touchwiz UI they put on the tab isnt the same as one on the phones. But still, even that has to be revamped when new version of android comes out. Samsung is the worst when talking about updates. I liked the design of the original GTab 10.1 too, but thinking of updates, I went ahead and got the xoom. Samsung just needs to stop putting **** on awesome device like that and make the damn thing go into shame.

[Q] Galaxy Tab...How Pure?

So I just got a new Galaxy Tab this last Friday. Love it! How pure is the Google in the stock ROM? It is the first I have seen of Honeycomb, and not sure how much Samsung has tinkered with the UI already if any. Then I saw another post where they are about to shove out an update that includes TouchWiz. So I'm not real into using TouchWiz. I'm on a Nexus S for my mobile and love it as well.
Basically, guess I asking if the 10.1 is already pure 3.1? If so, I am going to go ahead and root and call it good.

I have a XOOM and a Galaxy Tab 10.1. The XOOM is supposed to be a "pure Google device" or Google experience device, and I see virtually no differences between the two. It looks like Samsung, for whatever reason, left Honeycomb alone with the exception of a few minor changes like the addition of a Kies option in USB settings, and minor stuff like that.
In fact, I wish they would have done a little customizing. The file system doesn't support files over 4GB, while the XOOM does. They bailed on an SD card hack, which the transformer and iconia have. And they did nothing to improve the video playback over stock Honeycomb.

I'm looking forward to the Touchwiz update. I'll go ahead and install it when it's available. If I don't like it, then I'll just flash back to stock.

Samsung added their own keyboard which is optional to use. The stock browser doesn't seem to have Labs, tho not sure if that was Samsung's doing.

there's also a different camera app.

hi i just got my GT7500 from jakarta launch on saturday. in anycase, i'm not that impressed by 10.1 ... and i kept on confusing what is the difference between 10.1v and 7510 and 7500? anyone with a light on this?

TouchWiz UX, the Samsung UI, will come with the next update soon.

robobear said:
hi i just got my GT7500 from jakarta launch on saturday. in anycase, i'm not that impressed by 10.1 ... and i kept on confusing what is the difference between 10.1v and 7510 and 7500? anyone with a light on this?
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Why arent you impressed by the superb build quality?
And: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=10.1v+vs+10.1

Itaintrite said:
Why arent you impressed by the superb build quality?
And: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=10.1v+vs+10.1
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sorry, too many similar looking device from china here... so i'm not too impressed.
in any case, i'm not impressed by its slippery back grip. BUT the screen, man its nice screen estate..
anyway, now i'm confused because mostly here you guys got 10.1v and 10.1 p7510 in which i dont know if there will be any development for the custom rom.. which is BADLY needed in my opinion..