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Nexus S stands for sucky!!!!!

When I saw a picture of the Nexus S, I thought, what a ugly phone. Then, I saw that it's made by Samsung, nothing against Samsung but to me their phones are cheap The phone doesn't deserve the Nexus name. IMO HTC makes the best phones. I have three friends that have Galaxy S's, and their always asking me for my N1, to use my navigation, and make phone calls, because they're always losing their signal, and their GPS is screwy, plus they have ****ty battery life, so they live on their chargers. I keep telling them to root, but they want me to do it for them, I stopped rooting peoples phones who refuse to educate themselves about rooting, because they're always calling you with problems, because they don't understand. Another thing, I was thinking about buying the Evo, but my friend has it and the resolution is crap, the colors are dull, almost to the point of transparency, I think HTC focused too much on having the biggest screen, so I won't be buying that crap, I thought that all the high-end android devices after the N1 would blow us out, but have done nothing except confirm that I made the right choice with my Sexy Nexy, so we'll be together a little while longer. I thought the N2 would go in the direction of the Desire look, that's a classy phone, that has a professional look for older gents like myself, I'm very disappointed that Google gave Samsung the contract.

have you ever typed a reply and deleted it while think *why bother?*

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have you ever typed a reply and deleted it while think *why bother?*
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greenstuffs said:
have you ever typed a reply and deleted it while think *why bother?*
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If a post doesn't hold your interest, on to the next one.

There's already a thread for this. Try searching next time.

More lamers are on xda now...

On the flamethrower!!
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blas4me said:
When I saw a picture of the Nexus S, I thought, what a ugly phone. Then, I saw that it's made by Samsung, nothing against Samsung but to me their phones are cheap The phone doesn't deserve the Nexus name. IMO HTC makes the best phones. I have three friends that have Galaxy S's, and their always asking me for my N1, to use my navigation, and make phone calls, because they're always losing their signal, and their GPS is screwy, plus they have ****ty battery life, so they live on their chargers. I keep telling them to root, but they want me to do it for them, I stopped rooting peoples phones who refuse to educate themselves about rooting, because they're always calling you with problems, because they don't understand. Another thing, I was thinking about buying the Evo, but my friend has it and the resolution is crap, the colors are dull, almost to the point of transparency, I think HTC focused too much on having the biggest screen, so I won't be buying that crap, I thought that all the high-end android devices after the N1 would blow us out, but have done nothing except confirm that I made the right choice with my Sexy Nexy, so we'll be together a little while longer. I thought the N2 would go in the direction of the Desire look, that's a classy phone, that has a professional look for older gents like myself, I'm very disappointed that Google gave Samsung the contract.
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You're a professional guy who needs a classy phone. I get it.

I too despise helping people not as smart as I. It's so monotonous dealing with the simpletons.

Lol! A sore loser. Your nexy is outdated, it belongs to the past. Face it, accept it, move on.

greenstuffs said:
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All the time, brother!

Apple 3G ---> Apple 3GS for "speed?"
Nexus One ---> Nexus S for "speed?"

After going from Nexus One to Evo to G2 I have to say that the G2 is the true successor to the Nexus One

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Cool story, bro.

it was only a couple of weeks ago when most people on here was up in arms that samsung was rumoured to be making a nexus.
now your all lapping it up. whats happened?

I wanted Vibrant once, but I can consider NS instead, and it's only better!

ROBIN50N said:
now your all lapping it up. whats happened?
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Maybe it's the rumored Orion CPU which if true will be able to compete with any mobile CPU/GPU through 2012.

Award Tour said:
Maybe it's the rumored Orion CPU which if true will be able to compete with any mobile CPU/GPU through 2012.
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hmm yeah that will be it. so samsungs crappy build is no longer a concern.
the "ill never buy a samdung" brigade have scuttled back under there rocks.

Is it possible its something as simple as google wanting to continue use of a amoled screen capable phone for dev. phone purposes? I mean thats one of the main interest points ive noticed when anyone sees my N1. Everyone says "wow the screen is so crisp". Seeing how samsung took amoled away from everyone else just kind of makes sense on googles part if that be the case.
Nothing against HTC, they make great phones but i just wonder if use of amoled is more paramount than most give credit for. Look at it this way, all phone makers can more or less make the same kind of phones hardware wise. Only difference being is samsungs ability to use amoled. Just a thought , nothing more.

i read on here that HTC said the N1 would be thier first and last phone designed for a non carrier and that is why google had to go else where. I'd have prefered motorola, but samsung is an ok 2nd choice. HTC would obviously have been my first but they are out of the question. All i really care about is vanilla android with updates from google, a nice sized screen, good hardware, and a nice design.
the nexus S has all of the above minus the nice design...but it has helped me realize that the design weights a lot more in my purchasing decision than I had previously thought. I dont see myself buying a nexus s if it looks like the leaks orion processor or not

Sat next a dude who also had a Xoom...

... on the bus and we spent the rest of ride back conversating loudly about our awesome tablets, while being surrounded by iPad users. Shortest bus ride home ever...
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nice, its the best tablet no one seems to be talking about. I think people were waiting for the ipad and to be honest that underwelmed but folks are still going to flock to it

Some guy asked me "is that an iPad?" I said "no, its a Xoom." You should've seen the look of befuddlement on his face....

Its sad that people don't know about the Xoom. Even worse when the same people ask, "why didn't you get an iPad?"
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chernggoh said:
Even worse when the same people ask, "why didn't you get an iPad?"
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True, but I like "enlightening" them Sometimes I think they even understand

codeman05 said:
True, but I like "enlightening" them Sometimes I think they even understand
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Trust me. They don't.

Just give it time. Motorola screwed up with opening with the most expensive model when they should have gone with the wifi only version out of the gate. Regardless it will only be a matter of a few short months when Android tablets will be everywhere...and then...the developers will come running.
IOS is a joke but it works and it is simple. Apple will not change that which means the software innovation will be left up to Google. As soon as Apple makes their system even slightly more confusing...all bets are off. Icons are for smart phones in 2008...it is 2011 and soon people will want more and they will want choice...
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Trust me. They don't.
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Mostly don't, some even asked me what's so good about android, I had to ask them the same thing about iOS and they can't even explain that to me xD

I was having dinner with some friends tonight and whipped out my XOOM to show off the NES emulator (the pattern on the table cloths looked like Tetris, so it was only inevitable.)
The waiter came over and was like "Wha...How did you get Zelda on the iPad??" and I was like "It was really easy, actually! I downloaded it from the Android market, because it's a Motorola XOOM. You can't do that with an iPad unless you jailbreak it."
He was in awe. lol

colbyb25 said:
Just give it time. Motorola screwed up with opening with the most expensive model when they should have gone with the wifi only version out of the gate. Regardless it will only be a matter of a few short months when Android tablets will be everywhere...and then...the developers will come running.
IOS is a joke but it works and it is simple. Apple will not change that which means the software innovation will be left up to Google. As soon as Apple makes their system even slightly more confusing...all bets are off. Icons are for smart phones in 2008...it is 2011 and soon people will want more and they will want choice...
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Agreed. Who wants multiple screens with a bunch of icons when you can actually make your screens look like a web site with various widgets with useful information that matters to you.

I feel it too. Everyone seems consumed by the *cough* ipad, that they don't realize tablets even exist for android. The xoom kills 'em all! Android is sooooo much better than the other *cough again* competitors. Once an "apple" lover sees the xoom in action they'll sure change to the better side!
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I would reply "Err what's iPad btw?" And let them explain then we can have fun asking the shortcomings
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Some guy asked me "is that an iPad?" I said "no, its a Xoom." You should've seen the look of befuddlement on his face....
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A girl at my school saw me playing fruit ninja on my XOOM and said "how did you get the iPad 2 already?" *facepalm*

JC3 said:
A girl at my school saw me playing fruit ninja on my XOOM and said "how did you get the iPad 2 already?" *facepalm*
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Should've said "how did you become a dumbass?"
might be a bit overboard, but it'd get the point across.

These people aren't dumb nor is it their fault that they're not aware of the Xoom. You should be more annoyed at Motorola's marketing. I have seen one commercial and quite honestly....it sucked.
I think Android will always have this problem...Apple is one company and Android devices are made by a number of different manufacturers. Makes it hard to market Android as a whole. I guess things will get easier once the market is flooded with Android tablets.
Best thing to do is point out the positives of Android vs IOS without being a d-bag.
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Really lame fanboy comments on here, but it's a Xoom forum so it's excusable i guess.
If you like your Xoom, then fine, why deride others who like their iPads? If nobody you've come across knows about the Xoom or keeps mistaking it for some sort of iPad-thingy, then whose fault is that? Those people are neither stupid or dumb like you all seem to think. I have an Epic and an iPad, both of which i like and use quite well. Won't be getting a Xoom, not interested, waiting to see the Galaxy tablet.
Where's the marketing from Motorola, where's the push from VZW? You'd think that these were the same folks who made a big push with the "Droid Does" phone campaign that brought Android awareness to all and sunder.
Walk into any BestBuy and see where and how they've displayed the Xoom. It's in some nondescript corner somewhere with no ecosystem of accessories around it (at least the NYC store here). Almost like an afterthought...just something else we carry. No eye-catching signage, no display props, very little employees who go out of their way to even know about it...

This is what kills me why does there need to be marketing for a product you already know about hand possibly own? Plus aple users tend to be vocal about their devices as well fanactical to some extent which is fine. Why do people feel the need to judtify their own purchases or need to bash one in order to like another? I have a xoom, bought an I pad that I never see(wife and kids's really) and think both serve their purpose. Also one of apples biggest strengths isn't their products but their marketing.

You must all be using some different kind of Xoom then me. I love android more then any other OS but this thing is the biggest piece of janky **** I have ever used. Nothing works, everything force closes. Coming from a galaxy tab this is a giant step DOWN. Granted it ran froyo, but it ran it flawlessly. My friends nook color runs honeycomb better then this. Every minute I use this thing I get more frustrated. Picked it up last night bringing it back within the hour. Huge let down.
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I understand where you're coming from, LordLugard, and honestly I don't think people are stupid because they think the xoom is an ipad. Its just my humorous criticism of how I hate apple! Lol. Why? Because apple sucks. Why? ...just because. Lol. Im not being negative towards anybody, but think its funny. And I can care less about the exploitation of the xoom. I actually like being a part of something that's not so trendy. However, Motorola is making a lot of mistakes by not marketing the device properly and shipping it off "incomplete". Also, the xoom is super expensive...but I am definitely a happy camper! Its perfect for school, play, and among other things. Xoom xoom baby!
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LordLugard said:
Really lame fanboy comments on here, but it's a Xoom forum so it's excusable i guess.
If you like your Xoom, then fine, why deride others who like their iPads? If nobody you've come across knows about the Xoom or keeps mistaking it for some sort of iPad-thingy, then whose fault is that? Those people are neither stupid or dumb like you all seem to think. I have an Epic and an iPad, both of which i like and use quite well. Won't be getting a Xoom, not interested, waiting to see the Galaxy tablet.
Where's the marketing from Motorola, where's the push from VZW? You'd think that these were the same folks who made a big push with the "Droid Does" phone campaign that brought Android awareness to all and sunder.
Walk into any BestBuy and see where and how they've displayed the Xoom. It's in some nondescript corner somewhere with no ecosystem of accessories around it (at least the NYC store here). Almost like an afterthought...just something else we carry. No eye-catching signage, no display props, very little employees who go out of their way to even know about it...
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NYC is very much an iPad "keeping up with the Jones" kind of place. I can hear the conversation now. "Have you seen the latest iPad, simply incredible, I must have one". "Wilfred will you hold Tootsey so I can run to the Apple Store".
Handguns and Xooms will probably be banned at Starbucks.

pls! giv me some suggestion

samsung just announced that both of their tab will be released on early SUMMER n june 8 means i have to wait till june for buying anyone?
i m fed up of waiting, so i 'd like to ask xoom users, are xoom worth to buy? wat is it's bad?

If you have decided on buy an Android tablet, I don't see any reason why Galaxy tab's will be better than Xoom...
I can't see any negative to Xoom when you compare Galaxy tabs, but there are a few benefits,
Xoom comes with vanilla honeycomb which is million times better than any other 'skins'. Also you will get updates much faster and don't have to wait for Samsung to port it.
Look wise I like the Xoom..

I read an article yesterday that stated samsung is using a custom honeycomb UI so I lost interest immediately when I read that. I enjoy my xoom and I will stick with it at this point. I have also read that it feels like cheap plastic, which is another huge drawback in my opinion. To me a better screen isn't worth molested android, especially a version that is not only buggy and incomplete, but also total revamp of the whole UI, I foresee samsung screwing it up with a laggy interface as usual.
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The thread should be merged with this one. Maybe you'll find more inspiration there.

btw, last time i watched a review and it said that "the marketplace need an update to view all apps". does the marketplace updated now n can view all of the apps?

I would go with the Google Experience device. Chances are you will receive updates more frequently on the Xoom than the Galaxy 10.1. Plus TouchWiz is on this thing according to Engadget. Not sure I would want that screwing up my Honeycomb greatness!

does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?

omnia1994 said:
does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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It is quite heavy. different people have different tolerences though. It will be about .30lbs heavier than the 10.1 galaxy tab.

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does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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Well any tablet when held long enough will feel heavy. Depends on how comfortable you are holding the tablet and how strong your arms and wrists and fingers are haha..
Perhaps you can try holding a book of similar weight and see if you can stand it.

thx for everyone =)
but i just read about ppl said xoom will be sstop producing on june.
will this cause it lacks of accessories n software update in the future? is this true?

I read that the TouchWiz 4.0 is not deeply integrated into the Honeycomb (find the CNET article about this).
They are just bunch of apps and widgets. Even the 10.1 will be launched first as stock, which users can (or forced) to download the TouchWiz 4.0 via update.
I am not too worried with this TouchWiz thing, because XDA devs will root and we will be able to install custom ROM "anyway" Unless the bootloader is LOCKED and encrypted (like Motorola phones), history said Samsung has never done that.
So, I am now OK with this TouchWiz. From what I look in the hands-on video, it is still Honeycomb.
And also, living in Europe, Samsung gave updates to their phones here
So yeah, pretty much covered about the update.
I really like the hardware profile of this Samsung 8.9"
- Lighter at 470 gram versus 725 gram of Xoom.
- Thinner at 8.6"
- especially the PLS screen which is even better than the IPS of iPad2, no contest with Xoom in this area.

i heard that there's issue that xoom cant read sdcard? isit true? =(

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i heard that there's issue that xoom cant read sdcard? isit true? =(
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just answered your other thread, yes, the SDcard doesn't work yet on the Xoom.

weight of xoom
im pretty sure that metal weighs more than plastic, so as far as how heavy it is....
i mean, c'mon..think outside the box people.
btw..my xoom is freakin awesome, and had a apple guy convert from ipad to xoom this past week. freakin sweet.

If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.

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If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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^ These words are true.

Kcarpenter said:
If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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True...two companies I really REALLY dislike and that's samsung and Sony, over the years they have royally screwed me over, Samsung stop caring as soon as you hand over the cash and Sony screw you once they have your cash
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I love my xoom, and don't think i'd get any other HC tablet right now. I will say, I do like 8.9" and my only hardward wish with the xoom is for it be lighter and thinner.

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If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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My thoughts exactly.
The history of Samsung updating their products is enough for me to say no thank you to any Android device they make. The only time I would consider is something like the Nexus S - stock Android with no Sense/Blur/Touchwiz and gets updates first.
Furthermore, am I the only one that cringes a little when you see/hear/read the word "Touchwiz"? Sounds like Touchjizz to me. Just sounds like a really cheesy name for a skin.
I honestly don't understand what everyone is up in arms about the weight of the Xoom is. Either get a dock or portfolio that can prop it up or lift some weights. Like 2 lb weights because the friggin Xoom weighs even less than that!
Sure, anything gets heavy after a while. But I have yet to run into a situation where I'm fatigued from messing with the Xoom. Honestly, the weight difference between any tablets shouldn't be an issue, unless it's half/double the weight of something (or something else extreme). I like the way the back feels. Sometimes it seems like people just want to find something else to criticize.

Not Quite the Experience I Had Hoped For...

Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!

I'll second that
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)

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About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?

Even one star is generous.

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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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I haven't had any of those issues. In my experience, it's a very stable phone. Which leak are you referring to? The DroidX ROM containing the At&t mention?
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I can't...
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We know, we know.

Clienterror said:
I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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How dare you make me defend my statements! ;-) So, regarding the browsing, I'm sure you've noticed that when you scroll with several images on the page the images lag begind the text. As far as loading is concerned, it's hard for me to say that it's not my network conditions, but my 3gs definitely seemed faster. After a little bit of research, I've found that other people complained of this too, but apparently you can change flash to "on-demand" to make general browsing lag-free (haven't confirmed this personally)
As far as the zig-zagged subpixels are concerned, it's a well known fact that Motorola used a pentile pixel matrix to cut costs. It's harder to tell with black on white, but look at any blue hyperlink on a white background, especially when zoomed out (image originally referenced from here).
The display response time has been noticed by others. I couldn't find any official specs to confirm this, but if I'm right that it's a problem then the lack of published response time specs wouldn't be surprising.
Data dropping out is also a well known issue. There's also a post on Motorola's support forum.
The brightness issue is subjective, but I've read a few places that the screen doesn't do to well in daylight. I'm not going to bother referencing this or my google voice problem, their just straws on the camel's back.
Finally, I'm not going to use some rumor that 2.3 is coming soon (how soon?) to push me past my 30-day return limit. Too arbitrary.
So, maybe you don't agree with everything I say, but I hope I just made it really hard for you to say you don't agree with anything I say while keeping a straight face

joelszs said:
Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
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I am actually a little unclear with what issues you have with the phone, most of this post just seems like you talking about liking the OS but not liking the AT&T service, HTC and motorola. You said very little about the phone itself.
to me it sounds like the best thing you should do is indeed jump ship from AT&T and go to verizon or something. As far as the "locking trend" from motorola and HTC.. i am assuming you are talking about the restrictions on sideloading and such. I may be wrong but i feel like this is an AT&T issue not motorola. Other providers that have HTC and Motorola dont seem to have as much issue (please correct me if i am wrong, i do not have too much experience with other providers) So dont worry this is not a sign of the future of android.
Sorry to hear you are not keeping the atrix, i have not had mine as long as you have but i love mine so far. Thanks for the input tho

I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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I gotcha. Didn't mean to change the mood of your thread, just felt like ranting since I wish I could tell myself to keep the Atrix. I'm going to return my Atrix and hold out for six months at least to see what else comes out. I'm hoping the Galaxy S II will hit AT&T, but I am a bit jealous of my friend who gets 5mb+ on his Verizon iPhone4.
joelszs said:
I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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Opera 11.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.

cheetah2k said:
I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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Atrix is not what I expected either I had a better time when im using my captivate
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I love my captivate the Super AMOLED is amazing! but i feel like that is the only thing that beats the Atrix. Oh and the Captivate has a much better camera software.. but i shoot a DSLRs so it doesnt bother me.
Im thinking if AT&T gets the Galaxy S II, i might have to switch just cuz the Super AMOLED is AMAZING.

frankiedizzle87 said:
Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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slimslim said:
i will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and i can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that i don't really need a phone :-o
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bwahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahha!!!

slimslim said:
I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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oh come on, that isn't fair!
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well there is a lot of thread people dont like and so on. i dont like locked bootloader perhaps its an amazing phone fast and the screen its weird because you can see pixels on the screen (why???) perhaps the bright under de sun on clarity i like more than my nexus one, webtop on hdmi its cool, the multimedia HD its pretty nice too,im returning (maybe) but to get another since i guess have a bad battery seems it dont last too mucho or maybe im so heavy user lol
well anyways good luck next device.

cheetah2k said:
I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc
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OMG, I can't believe little things ever matter! Seriously, the purpose of a forum is for discussion, and this one seems very one sided--everyone who likes their Atrix is just making smartass comments (except zen kun, thanks for contributing to the discussion).
If you don't like open discussion, why don't you move to China?

Having Second thoughts.

So when I first got the GSII I thought it was awesome! But 2 things quickly came to fruition.
1.The lightness was great at first but now its almost as a hassle for me, its TOO light, its like I cant even grab it properly like I did with my IP4, im constantly having trouble handling it and it just feels SO delicate! As if its gonna break if I do something wrong or drop it, its too thin for me, that's why Im having trouble holding it at times.
2.Android I have used before and very much enjoyed it but I dunno what happened to me that now its just too much stuff going on for me, with the IP4, it was simple and right to the point, in a way I appreciate all the extra little things that Android bring but I just dont care too much either, surprising cause im a techie. I dunno if its cause I am used to the IP for so long but it just seems like I have to go through more steps to do things that I would only have to do 1 or 2 on IOS. I always get this feeling of cluttered and an unorganized feel on Android while on IOS it just feels simple and straight to the point and organised. I tried WP7 at launch as well and I was super impressed by its UI, smoothness, how everything was so simple and easy to get to/use, frankly I just dont care about customizing and all that, I just want a quick fast and easy experience.
Now dont get me wrong a big problem I had with Android was how it would lag, freeze and sometimes feel like its in a beta stage, I was curious how the DualCore and 1gb ram would make a difference and wow! Im very impressed here! I havent had a single lag, its so smooth and just runs any and everything with absolute ease! This is how I wanted android to be!!
Another thing is the screen, I had 480x800 phones before as well as SuperAmoled and very much enjoyed them, so I was very excited to see the SuperAmoledPlus Display, too my surprise I wasn't that impressed tbh, the blacks are incredible, the contrast honestly seems good but not what I expected, the IP4 seems on par even brighter in some places, but the biggest thing for me is the pixels, since I had 480x800 before and thought it was great, I didn't think it was gonna be a huge difference but wow it is, the retnia display is MUCH better with text. Theres definitely a difference.
All in all Im not sure what to do now, I think I have a beast of a phone in my hands and it IS good but im not satisfied in certain aspects and it seems the months I spent with IOS really took a hold of me, I find myself trying to do little gestures I did in IOS. Theres the IP5 coming but who knows how much that will be and my contract is not up till next year. I cant find a good case for my life on the GS2 while IP4 has several.
Personally I think WP7 is awesome! But the lack of apps and certain things I need is really pushing me away from it. Im not gonna lie sometimes I get annoyed with Apples restrictions and hate itunes but beyond that I very much enjoy it.

Seriously, trade it in and get an iPhone 4. And if that sounds like I'm being trolly and trying to be funny then don't take it that way. I honestly believe that you've picked the wrong phone.
As popular as this phone is, it's obviously not for everyone.

johncmolyneux said:
Seriously, trade it in and get an iPhone 4.
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btw sorry if this came off as a bashing thread or something, just giving my honest thoughts.

solidkevin said:
btw sorry if this came off as a bashing thread or something, just giving my honest thoughts.
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I didn't think it was mate - I just reworded my response in case I came across as bashing!

johncmolyneux said:
I didn't think it was mate - I just reworded my response in case I came across as bashing!
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No problem! I read your response and I think I may just wait for IP5, try to get a good sell on this one. I feel dumb, I really thought I was gonna like this one...
What do you think of WP7?

I agree with the post above. The SGS2 isn't the right device for everyone. IMO it's the best device on the market currently. That being said who cares what I think, it's what you think. If you want to get an iPhone I would hold off until Sept when the iPhone 5 is released.

I only skim read the first post but from the number of times I saw "IP4" I think you definately need to jump off the Android bandwagon.
I got this phone two days ago and it's one in a long line of Android phones, if I were to switch to an iphone and do the opposite to you, i'd find myself on modmyi.com moaning about how sucky and locked down apple phones are.
Point is, if you really don't like it, take it back if/while you still can.

solidkevin said:
No problem! I read your response and I think I may just wait for IP5, try to get a good sell on this one. I feel dumb, I really thought I was gonna like this one...
What do you think of WP7?
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I only had WP7 very briefly - on a HD2 that usually ran Android. I liked it, but was put off by how little I could do with it. It felt like going back 10 years to when you were pleased if you could even use your own .mid files as ringtones!

The first point about lightness / thinness can be solved with a £2 case from ebay. Job done.
Android phones can be pretty much set up to be very similar to iOS (only better) with a little patience. In fact android can mimick any other phone, or even be completely unique... can you do that with an iphone? No.
Yes the retina display is sharper for text, and when it boils down to it, the retina is probably the only rival display that can compete with the SAMOLED+ but I personally prefer the latter for its comparatively massive size, brilliant blacks and vibrancy. Horses for courses.
Ultimately I'd agree with the others though. Sounds like you bought the wrong phone. I felt the same way with the iphone 4 to be honest, and it was only when the SGS2 appeared that I knew I had a worthy replacement on my hands.

I want the Nokia WP7!

666fff said:
I want the Nokia WP7!
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Definitely in the back of my mind...

Well if you like the ease of use of the iPhone, you should check out MIUI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130951
There's even an iPhone theme which makes it near identical in look and feel.
MIUI is really easy to use and simple to install. Just an idea.
Otherwise just get an iPhone 4 or 5.

Buying a case would definitely solve issue 1.
Like others have said, with some time and effort you could emulate the iphone look and usability.
Go with what's comfortable for you. Doesn't matter what anyone says.
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I am actually torn between WP7 and Android
But I feel Icecream will be the deal breaker for android
currently am happy with my SGS2 having come from htc hero, but I also have an HTC HD7 wP7 and I love what Micorosoft has done with MANGO.
and Being a Nokia Fan I am definitely gonna for a Nokia WP7 next year
as I specifically took a 12 month contract on my SGS 2 and the SGS2 specs are good enough to last me atleast a couple of years If I do get itchy about android

Too light? WTF?
Don't like Android? Don't buy an Android phone!
Go back to iPhone, we don't need you here whining.

gaui said:
Too light? WTF?
Don't like Android? Don't buy an Android phone!
Go back to iPhone, we don't need you here whining.
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Its funny how theres always one asshole in these threads...

solidkevin said:
Its funny how theres always one asshole in these threads...
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Well he's got to do something to take our attention away from his tiny manhood. Shame he did something that actually drew our attention to it instead!

Boltie said:
Buying a case would definitely solve issue 1.
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I second this statement.
I've had the phone for less than a week now and had the same impression, compared to my previous N1.
I just bought a plastic case, it's still light, but it definitely feels better now.

I agree 100% with the OP this is my first android and I was learning on the go. Its very cool device but for some people who just want simple interface they should go for IOS. I do electronics for living and have done a lot of programing in past years. I spent yesterday all day flashing this thing because all the sudden it stopped Sync and Social Hub wont work. It seriously stopped by it self very strange.
I asked all the experts on this website about how to fix it, so far my thread name "social hub Issues" has 100 views and 0 answers. What does that mean? either no one has answer or they think im retard.

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I asked all the experts on this website about how to fix it, so far my thread name "social hub Issues" has 100 views and 0 answers. What does that mean? either no one has answer or they think im retard.
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lol - I doubt it's because people think you're a retard
It's more than likely just a rare issue, so not many people that visit this forum will be able to advise you. I'm sure you'll get some advice eventually.