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Hilarious Craigslist Post

I was browsing Craigslist today and saw something that made me laugh hysterically, and I thought some of you other N1 owners would find this funny as well:
http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/mob/1625777504.html
He's baiscally trying to sell unlocking services for iPhones, and has some screenshots attached of an iPhone skin to make the phone appear to be a Nexus One....

whats so funny about it?

I'm shocked there is a Nexus One theme for the iPhone. Maybe I shouldn't be...

There was probably a Nexus One theme for them before the Nexus One was shipping.

Maybe this is what Steve Jobs is so mad about. He can't believe people want to make his device look like its something better than what it is

The only thing that makes me laugh is how ridiculously horrible the theme actually is. Most of the iphone themes look semi-decent.

I have a feeling he's going to get alot of prank phone calls

nephroid said:
I'm shocked there is a Nexus One theme for the iPhone. Maybe I shouldn't be...
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Hey, I was using the Hero theme on my 3GS for a long time.. My iphone was always an Android wannabe (thank god I now have the N1)

jerhoyet said:
I was browsing Craigslist today and saw something that made me laugh hysterically, and I thought some of you other N1 owners would find this funny as well:
http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/mob/1625777504.html
He's baiscally trying to sell unlocking services for iPhones, and has some screenshots attached of an iPhone skin to make the phone appear to be a Nexus One....
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i actually find this hilarious lol...you got all these fanboys bumming off the iphone...and then you uncover that deep down in their hearts they wish they had the nexus. finally the time has come when instead of people saying 'oooo thats like the iphone'...the tide has now turned to 'no wayyyy...thats like the nexus!!' haha...classic

teehee. whose jealous now, *****es?

I find it humorous that people in these forums go out of there way to bash another phone os. I came from nextel i836-> i850-> i870-> htc wing-> g1-> mytouch-> N1. I have never owned an iphone but I have used them, and I find very simple things on it such as smooth as hell scrolling, and when jailbroken all the little customizations are indeed awesome. I would never own one, but to sit her and bash iphone users, owners etc... is just plain sad. My N1 is not soooo far superior to iphone that I should just laugh at iphone owners and say they are jealous of my "wonderful" "beautiful" "amazing" N1. I love my phone and I love using it, but seriously guys seems to me you are insecure over something lol

adam18488 said:
the tide has now turned to 'no wayyyy...thats like the nexus!!' haha...classic
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I doubt that will ever happen considering the amount of people on this earth that actually know what a Nexus One is. N1 is a phone-enthusiast phone, Iphone is a every single person on this earth from 10-70 years old uses it
Sad but true

mesajoejoe said:
I doubt that will ever happen considering the amount of people on this earth that actually know what a Nexus One is. N1 is a phone-enthusiast phone, Iphone is a every single person on this earth from 10-70 years old uses it
Sad but true
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lol yeh u are right. i hope it stays that way too tho. i wouldn't want to get on the tube and everyone sitting next to me has the nexus. if i meet someone else with a nexus i wanna be able to ask them 'what kernel are u running' instead of 'what does your lock screen say?'
and i wouldnt say anyone is bashing. and if people are, i wouldnt say they are going out their way, iphone bashing is in quite a lot of peoples way lol

That looks hideous. I admit, though, I didn't realize a jailbroken iPhone was that customizable. But still ugly as sin. Ew, that resolution.

mesajoejoe said:
I doubt that will ever happen considering the amount of people on this earth that actually know what a Nexus One is. N1 is a phone-enthusiast phone, Iphone is a every single person on this earth from 10-70 years old uses it
Sad but true
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Quite a few people have recognised mine - "oh, is that the Google phone" - and shown a fair bit of interest.
I've always been a bit of a gadget freak (before the Nexus One I had Palm Pre, Htc Magic, G1, Nokia 6610....) but now I've found my personal ideal mix of currently available hardware & software I'm happy.
With the iPhone Apple hit the sweet spot for a lot of people. That and a strong brand identity let them sell a smartphone to a lot of consumers who wouldn't normally have looked for a "smartphone".
I suspect that this year will see a lot of mainstream consumers picking up Android devices - all it needs is some solid carrier backing.

One day, i noticed a kid on the subway staring at my phone while being with his friends. after 20 minutes he apparently loses it and he screams "OMG NEXUS ONE!"

jerhoyet said:
I was browsing Craigslist today and saw something that made me laugh hysterically, and I thought some of you other N1 owners would find this funny as well:
http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/mob/1625777504.html
He's baiscally trying to sell unlocking services for iPhones, and has some screenshots attached of an iPhone skin to make the phone appear to be a Nexus One....
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You think that's funny, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyvpl1u4yao
VIDEO! How to get Nexus One theme on iPod Touch/iPhone!
LOL!!!!!!!

So when you jailbreak an iphone you can add widgets to the desktop and all that?

Don't think the iPhone can do widgets as you know them.

Samsung Vibrant old news already?

Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?

The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.

Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.

Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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darkside79 said:
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID

And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.

DreamcastDC said:
Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!

ed1380 said:
cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3

testedfishbrain said:
Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol

Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.

Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.

Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~

Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.

darkside79 said:
Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?

jrharvey said:
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
demize! said:
Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
roguly said:
Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.

lolcopter said:
yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.

I almost wish I looked at a N1 before picking up a NS

So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.

I'm sure you can understand why so many of us chose not to upgrade, eh? The Nexus S is a nice handset if you didn't already have a Nexus One...it just isn't a big enough step up for us though.
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biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered

Nexus s is great. You get a better touch sensor and a faster gpu.

I played with one in store. I have my N1 running the latest CM7 gingerbread. So I setup my desktop matching the NS.
The screen is a Tad nicer but overall I didn't see much to warrant my dough.
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deenn said:
biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered
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haha no sucking up here, just gotta pay respect when its due; I mean lets be honest, the Nexus S IS better than the Nexus One, even if the specs are slightly better, with its slightly better screen, higher quality screen, front facing camera, etc. etc. the only thing I feel the S falls short on is the build quality, its nothing bad but its like with the iPhone, I liked the build quality better on the first gen iphone then the 3G or 3GS.
Unless Palm announces something crazy (Palm fanboy here) I'll probably just stick with the Nexus S, I also have a Droid Pro so I think I should be set for a while.

MO3iusONE said:
So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.
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Now you see why many of us love the nexus one so much! CPU and specs aside, the nexus one hardware, build quality, color track ball for any notification you want, materials, size and package, its unmatched even by any current phone out there today! This phone is literally a work of art.
Throw in the car dock and desk dock, it can't be beat. Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.

RogerPodacter said:
Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.
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I know it just blows my mind that th folks at Google carried around an HTC N1 for almost a year and then decided that the Nexus S made by Samsung was the way to go...it really does blow my mind every time I think about it. Who in their right mind would make that choice?? I'm still bitter about it...feel as if I was robbed out of an upgrade. Forced to make a choice of crappy build quality with better internals or stick with older internals with better build quality. I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.

Old MuckenMire said:
I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?

ap3604 said:
Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!

What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
ap3604 said:
Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.

Yeah, hands up for Nexus One
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Old MuckenMire said:
I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!
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True that everyone already what the hell business google is about. I was too disappointed the way they advertised the n1
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I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.

This is the exact reason I'm still using my N1 - normally I upgrade as soon as the next best phone is out, but the Nexus is just perfect. The build quality is amazing compared to any samsung phones.
And seriously, I'd miss the trackball too much.
With that said, I have a Galaxy Tab - and think thats great, but I don't carry that with me every day so the cheap plastic doesnt annoy me as much

Guitago said:
I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.
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The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.

RogerPodacter said:
The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.
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Well, to be honest I never used a the nexus s, here in Brasil is too expensive to get new devices, I used only the galaxy s, which I think is basically the same device, only in a different housing, and it was pretty fast. I used a Nexus One too, but obviously the roms were different (even though both were using cooked froyo roms) and I know experience may vary, but the galaxy s seemed much faster.

canadariot2312 said:
What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!

+1 for dual mics
The call sound quality on the N1 and the Droid X are what attracted me to those two phones. In my opinion, it's a MUST HAVE feature and the single biggest reason I haven't bought a Nexus S.

k_myk said:
I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!
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but remember, if Moto is making the next nexus, google will be the one controlling the software, not moto. moto shouldn't be able to lock the bootloader in the next nexus without google saying yes.

Not Quite the Experience I Had Hoped For...

Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!

I'll second that
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)

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About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?

Even one star is generous.

Clienterror said:
I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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I haven't had any of those issues. In my experience, it's a very stable phone. Which leak are you referring to? The DroidX ROM containing the At&t mention?
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I can't...
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Clienterror said:
I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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How dare you make me defend my statements! ;-) So, regarding the browsing, I'm sure you've noticed that when you scroll with several images on the page the images lag begind the text. As far as loading is concerned, it's hard for me to say that it's not my network conditions, but my 3gs definitely seemed faster. After a little bit of research, I've found that other people complained of this too, but apparently you can change flash to "on-demand" to make general browsing lag-free (haven't confirmed this personally)
As far as the zig-zagged subpixels are concerned, it's a well known fact that Motorola used a pentile pixel matrix to cut costs. It's harder to tell with black on white, but look at any blue hyperlink on a white background, especially when zoomed out (image originally referenced from here).
The display response time has been noticed by others. I couldn't find any official specs to confirm this, but if I'm right that it's a problem then the lack of published response time specs wouldn't be surprising.
Data dropping out is also a well known issue. There's also a post on Motorola's support forum.
The brightness issue is subjective, but I've read a few places that the screen doesn't do to well in daylight. I'm not going to bother referencing this or my google voice problem, their just straws on the camel's back.
Finally, I'm not going to use some rumor that 2.3 is coming soon (how soon?) to push me past my 30-day return limit. Too arbitrary.
So, maybe you don't agree with everything I say, but I hope I just made it really hard for you to say you don't agree with anything I say while keeping a straight face

joelszs said:
Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
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I am actually a little unclear with what issues you have with the phone, most of this post just seems like you talking about liking the OS but not liking the AT&T service, HTC and motorola. You said very little about the phone itself.
to me it sounds like the best thing you should do is indeed jump ship from AT&T and go to verizon or something. As far as the "locking trend" from motorola and HTC.. i am assuming you are talking about the restrictions on sideloading and such. I may be wrong but i feel like this is an AT&T issue not motorola. Other providers that have HTC and Motorola dont seem to have as much issue (please correct me if i am wrong, i do not have too much experience with other providers) So dont worry this is not a sign of the future of android.
Sorry to hear you are not keeping the atrix, i have not had mine as long as you have but i love mine so far. Thanks for the input tho

I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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I gotcha. Didn't mean to change the mood of your thread, just felt like ranting since I wish I could tell myself to keep the Atrix. I'm going to return my Atrix and hold out for six months at least to see what else comes out. I'm hoping the Galaxy S II will hit AT&T, but I am a bit jealous of my friend who gets 5mb+ on his Verizon iPhone4.
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I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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Opera 11.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.

cheetah2k said:
I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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Atrix is not what I expected either I had a better time when im using my captivate
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I love my captivate the Super AMOLED is amazing! but i feel like that is the only thing that beats the Atrix. Oh and the Captivate has a much better camera software.. but i shoot a DSLRs so it doesnt bother me.
Im thinking if AT&T gets the Galaxy S II, i might have to switch just cuz the Super AMOLED is AMAZING.

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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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i will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and i can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that i don't really need a phone :-o
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bwahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahha!!!

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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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oh come on, that isn't fair!
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well there is a lot of thread people dont like and so on. i dont like locked bootloader perhaps its an amazing phone fast and the screen its weird because you can see pixels on the screen (why???) perhaps the bright under de sun on clarity i like more than my nexus one, webtop on hdmi its cool, the multimedia HD its pretty nice too,im returning (maybe) but to get another since i guess have a bad battery seems it dont last too mucho or maybe im so heavy user lol
well anyways good luck next device.

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To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc
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OMG, I can't believe little things ever matter! Seriously, the purpose of a forum is for discussion, and this one seems very one sided--everyone who likes their Atrix is just making smartass comments (except zen kun, thanks for contributing to the discussion).
If you don't like open discussion, why don't you move to China?

Why all the Samsung misconception and hate?

I have seen numerous HTC fans spew crap about Samsung for updates and build quality issues. For example, many state that the plastic build quality is of very low quality, of which is very opposite in reality in which in plastic is actually very solid. I have dropped my Vibrant many times and it still looks like new, can't say that about metal which dents and gets dinged. As for updates, blame your carriers. The international versions got updates several months before the carrier versions.
Here are some quotes from some obvious HTC users.
"Last year, Consumer Reports (a major U.S. publication) branded the U.S. Galaxy S versions as some of the best Android phones. Not only were they NOT the best, they were missing some basic functionality and lagged like a phone from a previous generation. Let's not even talk about lack of support from Samsung. Too many people fall for the SAMOLED eye candy and ignore everything else."
Or "Thank god I have some help.. hehe I honestly dunno why these SamSux people think S G II is pretty muhahua. It's one ugly plastic crap i've ever seen. They keep coming in HTC thread telling people to buy their plastic crap. "
Or "Another troll just childish, u will se Samsung will never have so awesome devs like HTC phones have especially when.I look at the desire section, a lot of them will buy a sensation and that's the reason why i will buy one to "
What do you think about the public conception of Samsung here at XDA?

The first quote is spot on. The lag was unbearable, the GPS inop, and support was nonexistent. Samoled was nice until you seen the jagged text. Battery life was also terrible. The phones are usable now, after 3-4 updates (updates that were bricking phones and frying storage, mind you) but the GPS is still borderline useless for lots of people and it still lags more than a Samsung jack wm6.5 device (by a long shot).
I they do better with the s2 good for them, but they are indefendable irt these phones. Hype can only get you so far...
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The first quote is spot on. The lag was unbearable, the GPS inop, and support was nonexistent. Samoled was nice until you seen the jagged text. Battery life was also terrible. The phones are usable now, after 3-4 updates (updates that were bricking phones and frying storage, mind you) but the GPS is still borderline useless for lots of people and it still lags more than a Samsung jack wm6.5 device (by a long shot).
I they do better with the s2 good for them, but they are indefendable irt these phones. Hype can only get you so far...
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Way to read my first paragraph. Support was due to the carriers, not Samsung directly. And I still do not understand what this lag is, even on JFD I had installed 30 apps and still little to no lag for me.
And the jagged text? have both a HD7 and a HD2 with me no, and I see no difference worth speaking of between the screens. I do 20/20 vision.
Battery life terrible? Wait till you see the desire HD or thunderbolt. The GS2 has also been reported to have good battery life.
Have you even tried a custom rom N8ter? CM7 nevers lags, even when underclocked to 400 mhz. And as to that HTC phones work better out of the box statement, we are on XDA. Hell, many of those HTC fanboys wanted the Sensation due to the dev attention they believed it would get, even with a locked bootloader.

I don't mod my phones and nor should anyone be expected to. The performance of the phone now is usable. Where was cyanogen in august to December 2010, though?
Don't answer that.
Bunch of excuses. What you quoted is true.
Text on a samoled panel is more jagged than on others. Its a side effect of the pen tile pixel arrangement used. Its very noticeable when you have white text on a black background - at least for me it is.
These panels also suffer from burnin more than any other screen type I've used.
Support from carriers does not help when the hardware is faulty (gps)'or the device has design flaw like rfs. Samsung can push out an update that replaces rfs. They choose not to. They should have recalled phones with known hw gps falls but.they just blamed it on the users andbgave them a useless tool to rwser some setting many of us never touched to begin with.
I read your whole post btw, bit I'm typing from devices so stop acting.like I'm obligated to comment on or rebut every tucking thing in it...
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The way I see it is why would anyone buy an android and use it stock lol considering stock is garbage to custom roms. End of story

This is the fourth vibrant I've had, gps was piss poor, and I was able to get new ones because of it. This newest handset has really good locks. I like the phone even after the gps problems. I bought an otter box and some ghost armor. With the case it feels solid. I know not everyone will get a case to make the phone feel built but it's nice. Id buy another samsung device no problem. I like the feel and ease of use.
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Bionix next gen
Overstock kernel to 1.2
kb5 modem

Fact: Despite samsung's delay in releasing froyo for the vibrant and it's GPS problems, the vibrant was/is still a greatr phone with an awesome display and great hardware!
Guys , am just wating for galaxy s 2 , rumour has it that it is going to be the best smart phone for a long time!!

I have to agree with N8ter. This will probably be my last Samsung device. I told myself from the start I'd never get another Samsung device, but it was all Asurion had to replace my water-damaged, but beloved N1. Ugh. I wish I had waited for them to get something else.
The lag KILLS me! I want to throw the damn phone against the wall or some concrete almost daily. Samsung could have definitely kept RFS to their damn selves. Even the browser lags on me most times.
I get a bunch of missed calls even when I have full coverage. The only way I'd even know I would miss them is if my girlfriend would text me to pick up my phone or check Google Voice for missed calls.
The GPS... yeah. Go back to the comment about me wanting to throw my phone against the hardest surface available, and multiply that by 100. The GPS has almost made me late for several appointments (job interviews, drug testing, etc.), and actually gotten me lost in my own native home of Atlanta. I don't get how the hell the GPS can possibly think I'm somewhere .5 miles away then where I am actually am.
I absolutely hate how it doesn't have an LED. NoLED does the job, but isn't really what I would call a suitable replacement.
I also hate how it looks like an iPhone. If I wanted an iPhone lookalike, I would have went out and bought an iPhone. I am really tired of people always asking me, "Is that an iPhone?"
I also despise TouchWiz. I despise manufacturer skins in general, but touchwiz REALLY grinds my gears.
One of the very few good redeeming qualities about this damn phone is the amount of internal storage, but which I barely make use of b/c of wanting to keep all of files stored on my external. I also like the dev tools they have, such as Odin. It's saved me a couple of times from bad flashing and just plain operator error. I also like how easy it was to install the front facing camera. But, then again, why the hell should I have to install it in the first place?
Overall, I am not a happy camper with Samsung. Once I start this new job, or get my financial aid refund check , it's definitely time for a new phone, and it sure as hell won't be Samsung. I was thinking about giving this phone to my girlfriend to replace her T-Mobile Tap, but I don't know if I want to torture her that much.
P.S. This is after using custom roms. God forbid how horrid my experience would have been on stock. I think I might have really thrown it in oncoming traffic.

its obvious that you're stuck in your mindset, so why even start a thread? its useless. coming from an owner of both brands, each have pros and cons. my epic and inspire both have poor battery life. inspire is smooth while the epic lags. furthermore, my epic has better overall display, but the inspire looks better picture wise, not contrast or color, quality. my point is, phones appeal to one person or another. no need for a useless thread targeting one manufacturer.
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Glad to see Samsung has learned their lesson, they have released sgs2 with unlocked boot loader and they just released sgs2 source as well
Thanks Samsung, I'll prefer you over htc and motorola
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I am quite satisfied with my vibrant coming from an HD2 NAND.
It is quite fast and has a much more pleasant desing than most other HTC phones.
Only problem is the HORRIBLE gps.

mugenfiji0327 said:
You are just whining and repeating what other members have stated so many times in this thread. HTC sucks, Samsung will always be better. All the problems that you are whining about disappeared when custom roms came. That's the point of custom roms so you don't have to use the crappy stock firmware. Anyway if you are still having trouble after using a custom rom and still think you have room to complain, then you probably shouldn't even own an android device and it is most likely user error. You're just an HTC fanboy, I am not saying that Samsung is the best but they are better than HTC. On top of that the Vibrant outdoes most of the new phones and all of the older phones that T-mobile has and it's over 6 months old. So quit basing your opinions on the phone off of your HTC loyalty.
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And you're a closed-minded Samsung fanboy so you can take your opinion and go eat shi* for all I care. Most of my complaints might have been stated already, but clearly the more times it's stated proves it's not just isolated incidents. I'm not basing my phone off of any loyalty. I'm basing it off of the fact that it frustrates the hell out of me. And I assure you it's not user error. I've been dealing with computers and electronics and modding etc since I was 7 and am a computer science major, so I assure you it's not user error. Every single one of those problems has persisted since I used a custom rom, and who the hell are you to tell me I shouldn't own an Android device? I know all about custom roms and have been using them since I got my first smartphone, the HTC wizard. If you think Samsung is better than HTC, that's fine. We're all entitled to our opinion. I, however, could care less about another Samsung phone ever again. I really regret the day my Nexus One fell in that pot of water.
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Every HTC phone that I have ever owned or seen has been the most worthless product. I would rather dig an old razr out from the bottom of a dumpster and use it than to ever use an HTC product again. All they have is cons, no pros at all.
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And you call me a fanboy. Yeah. Ok. At least I'm willing to admit this phone does have some pros.

I like the sgs line. Sure, there not the best out there, but as a rom chef and themer, I can honestly say this this phone is the best for that. Almost unbrickable. Don't forget, with HTC and moto(dont quote me on moto), they don't have Odin. That is a HUGE selling point for me. I would be pissed if I spent $x on a HTC phone, and had a bad flash. Now its a door stop. Just my .2.
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Everybody always runs to the I'm a computer science major and I've been working with technology since I was this age excuse.BS, I don't buy one word of that and I am willing to bet a lot on the fact that it is user error and you most likely do not even know close to what you are saying you know. If you are a computer science major then instead of complaining about the problems then why don't you fix them tough guy ? That's what I thought, full of bs just like every other troll on every other forum. I'm not a Samung fanboy or close minded I just know that samsung is and always will be better than the worthless company known as HTC that you love oh so much.
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Lol. Quite frankly I don't give a damn WHAT you believe. I don't have to prove myself to some anonymous person on the internet. You can eat **** and die for all I care. I know it's not user error. Even if I don't have the know how to go in and fix Samsung's mistakes myself, yet, I know how to read carefully and apply others' fixes. So go troll someone else. Like I said, it's your OPINION that Samsung is the better company, and that's fine. But, as for myself, I know I won't be giving Samsung another chance.
Good day to you.

I have seen Plastic = poor build quality in US mostly.

it's a loyalty thing, you know the last HTC device i owned was actually an I-Mate. still to this day I remember how damn awesome that thing was. swivel screen, Large Keyboard, solid PLASTIC construction, stereo speakers, 3.5 jack. etc. OS blew, think it was windows mobile umm 5? i know i ran 6.5 on it before i upgraded.
this phone was a beast. and the last HTC built device i ever owned as i switched to nokia and sony Ericsson smart phone devices, somehow i ended up with a samsung i900 Omnia (gsm) and have stuck with samsung since.
http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_jasjar-1262.php <--Beast.

Pretty cool ! I like how it supported 3g video calling in 2005 I had a Nokia 6630 then

To each their own.
I am commited to buying a usa sgs2. Why with the terrible support we've had? I truely think that samsung has learned their lesson. Releasing the source so soon after the phones launch is amazing. I have also read just about every review and watched every video. Its exactly the experience I want.
Even with all the problems of the sgs... I still love it. The reason why I know I love it is cause I am currently using a mytouch 4g. Its great that I can overclock it to 1.5ghz. Frankly I am really starting to miss my vibrant. I Love that phone. With its ****ty gps and its laggy ass stock ui and its horrible support. I am after all A tinker at heart!

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I'm not trolling, I'm just simply trying to get an ignorant bullshitter to shut his mouth that's all. As far as I know that's not trolling,it's doing the forum a favor.
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I don't have time to argue with a close-minded idiot. If you can't accept other people have opinions different from yours, then that's your problem. Now, I said good day.

boystuff said:
it's a loyalty thing, you know the last HTC device i owned was actually an I-Mate. still to this day I remember how damn awesome that thing was. swivel screen, Large Keyboard, solid PLASTIC construction, stereo speakers, 3.5 jack. etc. OS blew, think it was windows mobile umm 5? i know i ran 6.5 on it before i upgraded.
this phone was a beast. and the last HTC built device i ever owned as i switched to nokia and sony Ericsson smart phone devices, somehow i ended up with a samsung i900 Omnia (gsm) and have stuck with samsung since.
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A friend of mine still uses this as his daily phone, he managed to preserved it all this long in a mint condition too