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Whats an AOSP Rom?

Guys what is a aosp rom.. Like whats special about it and hows it differ from a regular rom?

a rom built from the android opensource project (http://source.android.com/). it's what people call 'vanilla' or pure android.
how is it special? its not, really. it's just free of carrier bloat and manufacturer skins which some people prefer.

Does it offer any performance improvements? Like hardware acceleration for example. And also most roms on here are free of.manufactire bloat.

no improvements, it's the same os (for example, 2.2.1 aosp is the same 2.2.1 on the sgs4g, just without tw and carrier bloat). basically, manufacturers take the aosp code and then build their skins/software on top of them, so an aosp rom may run faster, but that's because it's running less code (it's not running sense, blur, tw, etc. on top of the android os), but that also depends on how the manufacturer code is integrated with the os.

Ive heard some people say it could be the opposite too. Some of the manufacturers ui enhances the specific hardware for each phone.
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dardani89 said:
Ive heard some people say it could be the opposite too. Some of the manufacturers ui enhances the specific hardware for each phone.
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Like TouchWiz. It's completely built for the hardware in the Galaxy S, so it does speed up the Hummingbird, but nowhere near the optimizations that Gingerbread gives us.

Plus it gives some cool features. Like fonts and a better camera and music player.
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Aosp (android open source project) has no shell (software by manufacturers or carrier) so what you get is the pure Android operating system.
Some like it some don't it is ok what is nice about it is if you are rooted (which you most likely are) you can add back just the apps you want so there is no extra bloat on the phone.

interesting!

okay i tried cm7 but i notice that it doesnt have hardware acceleration on the browser like simply honey 3.6 and or 2.2.1 roms like biwinning? So i guess the browser is not optimised for hummingbird on aosp???

It is but the browser on bi winning is touchwiz and Samsung had hardware acceleration on that
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Also TouchWiz has codecs installed for playing back 720p mkvs and xvid/divx files natively. It uses less battery cause its using the gpu in our phone instead of the cpu (uses more battery) which some apps on the Market do.
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then why is cm7 so popular? i really dont get it, just because its a aosp rom??

helikido said:
then why is cm7 so popular? i really dont get it, just because its a aosp rom??
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Yeah plus you can customize the hell out of it. It also usually has great battery on stable releases.
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ohhh, coooll.....

Custom User Interfaces

Ok, I really am not liking Sense UI anymore. I don't really like MIUI or Vanilla Gingerbread. I would like to know where to begin in creating my own custom user interface to run over Gingerbread. Or perhaps a simpler task would be porting over other user interfaces from Motorola and Samsung to run over Gingerbread.
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Why not use go launcher or adw or launcher pro. They will replace sense...
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Hmm, never thought about that. Nice idea. But I guess my main purpose in making this was to see if anyone has (and can help me) created my own custom UI. It'd be nice I guess.
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OK... whatever tickles your fancy. Good luck to you
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thesmashippy said:
Hmm, never thought about that. Nice idea. But I guess my main purpose in making this was to see if anyone has (and can help me) created my own custom UI. It'd be nice I guess.
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First you would need to learn Java and C+ coding. Next I would learn Linux as android is Linux and you will need the knowledge to work on the UI.

Have a good look through the 'post your homescreen' thread. There's a wealth of inspiration in there. Have a look in the widget thread too.
Unless i'm wrong it's not the UI that you want to change as such, but what we'd call a Layout. For all intents and purposes it's the same thing. but UI is software whereas layout is graphical. End result being you want homescreens that look nice right?
Good Launcher+Good Widgets+Wallaper+Imagination and you'd be surprised how good you can make your device look. Some of what i see in the Homescreen thread are works of art!

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Have a good look through the 'post your homescreen' thread. There's a wealth of inspiration in there. Have a look in the widget thread too.
Unless i'm wrong it's not the UI that you want to change as such, but what we'd call a Layout. For all intents and purposes it's the same thing. but UI is software whereas layout is graphical. End result being you want homescreens that look nice right?
Good Launcher+Good Widgets+Wallaper+Imagination and you'd be surprised how good you can make your device look. Some of what i see in the Homescreen thread are works of art!
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Well, What I really want to do is make my own thing. I mean a couple of starter ideas,
- 6 basic home screens (in a cube shape) you can change when slid vertically or horizontally
- 2-4 (based on how many you want) "tabs" on the side of choice that can hold apps, home screens would mainly be for widgets, can also be used for apps though.
I don't know, Its just ideas I wanted to be able to put into my own UI. I think I may get into coding to make my own UI.

Check out an open source launcher, it will give you an idea of how to do crap, beyond whatever is in the API docs. I think ADW is open sourced.
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I would start with flashing a non sense ROM. Thus you'll get rid of sense bloat and will get a stock standard launcher or any other customizable launcher. Just look through available Roms. Personally I'd recommend CM 7.
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samsung touchwiz is something new and refreshing
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I hate it when I touch my whiz

Stock Camera for Custom Rom's

Hey All,
Since rooting my SGS2 and installing ICS Roms I find the Camera App is total S**t !
I use the camera loads both still and video.
The stock SGS2 Camera app was awesome !!!!! But the ICS one is rubbish !
I have searched everywhere and stock camera app is not available for custom roms or as an apk file.
So I am trying to find a developer to port the SGS2 Stock Camera App so it will work on all custom roms so we can all use it.
Failing that port it to Root Box Rom by Bajee11 as that's the Rom I use.
If anyone is skilled enough then let me know and we can discuss it further. It has to be totally bug free and working though.
I want this to happen so no time wasters please.
Feel free to leave comments regarding your camera experience on ICS.
Also don't recommend any apps as I wasted money on them all.
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I think it's impossible if you want it go back to stock rom
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Nah I don't think it would be imposable, just a lot of hard work either porting it from GB or starting from scratch. But either way something has to be done cause the ics camera is just crap!

I dont understand your topic. You're talking about a stock camera app. Flash any SAMSUNG based custom or stock ICS Rom and you will have a great camera... If you are using a CM or AOSP based ICS rom, like Rootbox, your camera might be worse. Because you have a Samsung device with Samsung camera, but a not samsung firmware... Or am I thinking wrong here, lolllzzz. Seems like common sense to me...

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Nah I don't think it would be imposable, just a lot of hard work either porting it from GB or starting from scratch. But either way something has to be done cause the ics camera is just crap!
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That's right it is bad but only the cm team can add features to it but no one will port the camera app its not so easy
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I am fully aware that it will be hard but if someone can port the other Samsung apps over then porting this will be possible. It will just take a little hard work and time for someone who has the knowledge about these kind of things (I don't)
Hopefully sooner or later a developer with the skill will answer the call
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It may not be impossible, but you have to understand that the stock Samsung camera app requires the touchwiz framework and system libraries, these files are completely incompatible with the AOSP framework and libraries, also the libraries in question are closed source when distributed by Samsung so any attempt to port or write from scratch would be a complete shot in the dark and while I'm sure there are devas out there who agree with you, with all the issues Samsung creates for AOSP devs a mostly working camera is much further down the list than other projects.
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This is something I've been looking for since I been using CM as well... 6 months now... really sucks to have such a great firmware with such a bad camera... more importantly the reduced camera settings is what makes matter worse...
For eg if you want to make a video with CM Cramera on lowest resolution, a 1 min video is like 40mb... can't even email something like that... while stock allowed 3gp and VGA resolution cams so you can take random small unimp videos to send... like on whatsapp with a 12mb limit you can only make like 5-10 second videos...
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Get UCAM pro. Try it. Seriously great.

The question should be about other third party camera apps available on the play store. Is there any app that comes close to the stock samsung app in the terms discussed above?
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As OP states no point in recommending any PS Apps. I have seriously tried them all and wasted loads of money on inferior camera apps.
There is nothing that comes close to Samsung camera application.
Also I have ucam and it's crap. How you can compare that app to the SGS2 Camera I don't know.
Which is a shame. (
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I agree with op here...the camera of this phone is very good and that's y I hate when it goes to waste on custom ROMs...Samsung ROM is very very ugly but utilizes camera quality to the fullest and has WiFi direct and FM but aosp and aokp ROMs r beautiful but camera sucks and no WiFi direct..spirit FM is the alternative at least
When will the perfect ROM come
Hell I would even buy the ROM like any play store product if it has aosp with Samsung like cam and WiFi direct and FM
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Why don't you use stock ROM with custom theme then?
I'm using Neat ROM and you can flash a custom theme over it (Jkay, vertemus, ...)
There's a lite version in case you don't want all stock Samsung apps.

Not what I am trying to achieve here.
Really want it so the camera application can be shared to all who want it.
Thanks for the idea though.
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Why don't you use stock ROM with custom theme then?
I'm using Neat ROM and you can flash a custom theme over it (Jkay, vertemus, ...)
There's a lite version in case you don't want all stock Samsung apps.
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I'm using that too but it has limitations like the theme is close to aosp but not in full...plus some colours r not very good...some notifications r pure white etc such things...plus changing DPI which is possible in aosp and aokp disrupts the UI in Sammy ROM with aosp theme on it
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Try using Ucam from play store it has most of the features of the stock camera and it also ugly like it
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i miss my stock camera....,could we like port the stock camera...Ive read some threads with instructions to detouchwiz an stock app,but that's gonna be a pain in the [email protected]#$ then again its worth it i guess.

Me too. I love Root Box but stock camera is really good.
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So I just tried ucam and I must say I'm quite impressed by the picture quality... not as good as stock but definitely better than CM...
Problems with it tho are that it keeps trying to autofocus which I find a little annoying...
Secondly and more importantly... its not allowing to take videos in less than 620*480... which was the problem to begin with... I'm starting to think this is a main CM limitation rather than any application...
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The stock camera has the advantage that Samsung can make calls directly to the hardware - fast and efficient. Because the stock camera only runs on Samsung devices.
When we talk about AOSP, now we are talking about generic Android. Google rewrote it for all devices with a general framework - it works on HTC. Now, the hardware cannot be directly addressed. Much more complicated programming - simpler in a way, but harder in others.
Then along comes AOKP. Those guys want to take Google out of the deal entirely, so they again rewrite everything and add another layer of abstraction. And when you think that NOBODY on the AOKP team owns an S2 and they don't even list it as a supported device. It is no surprise that the a large percentage of the features of the S2 are no longer available. For the life of me, I can't understand why putting up Superman wallpaper is better than having a decent camera, long battery life, FM radio, Bluetooth connectivity, etc.....

Never though I'd say this..

..but shortly after I flashed CM9 stable, I kinda started to miss touchwiz a lot, so I had to nandroid back to it.
And I am the one who hates touchwiz.. (although, I use Nova as my launcher)

Never thought you would post this
By the way it happens always, aosp Rom doesn't suit all unless they are ready to compromise some features
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Never thought I'd see a thread created on this.
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I actually like Touchwiz on this phone, seriously. All previous versions annoyed me, but it is smooth and flows well on this phone.

Touchwiz is good and nice, but i think if the backgrounds were white (in the contacts and call log at least) it will be nicer
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Can understand you very well.
Have been an aosp freak before (or I'm still, but not at this device), but I'm pretty pleased with touchwiz now. Some ctl and build.prop tweaks and all works fine so far.
Also touchwiz has at the current stage already some small, but useful features build in like the battery percent or the pinch to overview at the appdrawer. Not to forget about the missing mhl support at cm10 which is a dealbreaker for me.
Additional I must confess that I don't like the attitude of team hacksung, even while their work is still much appreciated and they are for sure great developers, it seems to me they aren't doing it anymore because they like to do it, more because they think they have to. For sure it's annoying when noobs clutter the development thread with ridiculous posts, but that you have to expect at a device like the gs3 and the argument that they are doing it for free, yes, it sure makes their work more valuable, but at the same time, they knew it when they started.
My opinion is they or at least every member of their team on his own should focus on one device, maybe that way it would be less load for each developer and at the same time more benefits for the community.
Sry that I cluttered your thread, this I wanted to get of from me sometime ago.
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Tectas said:
Additional I must confess that I don't like the attitude of team hacksung, even while their work is still much appreciated and they are for sure great developers, it seems to me they aren't doing it anymore because they like to do it, more because they think they have to. For sure it's annoying when noobs clutter the development thread with ridiculous posts, but that you have to expect at a device like the gs3 and the argument that they are doing it for free, yes, it sure makes their work more valuable, but at the same time, they knew it when they started.
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I kinda agree with you on this.
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Coming from a galaxy s phone, I remember wanting touch wiz back. The problem with touch wiz as opposed to HTC sense, is you can't retain the framework with a custom Rom. I feel there is more to gain from having a custom Rom than having full blown touch wiz. Look around though, you can probably find a .zip of the launcher here, so you can run a very close emulation of touch wiz on the Rom if your choice. I had a Rom on my captivate called "remics" which had galaxy s3 stock theming throughout the operating system. Just look around, you'll find what you want here on xda
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Samsung has come good features but they load it up with crap and its to much. Problem is it seems like an all or nothing situation

Same happenend to me I love touchwiz I flash back. Will go aosp when aokp is back on track .
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It's the hidden stuff I love in the new touchwiz, like the native mkv and other formats, stay awake, camera app, t9 dialler, swipe to message/call, reject a call with a message..... and loads more really well thought out features. Touchwiz isn't just the launcher. I use apex and have it looking how I want (stockish), yet retain all the samsung stuff. Why anyone would complain about touchwiz on the S3 is beyond me.
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Touchwiz is good and nice, but i think if the backgrounds were white (in the contacts and call log at least) it will be nicer
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There are some good dialler apps and message apps that have white backgrounds (or customisable) with the t9 dialling aswell. I can't remember the names, but you should have a look if you're interested.

The simple fact that I could not create folders in my app drawer made me flash back
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irish-sid said:
It's the hidden stuff I love in the new touchwiz, like the native mkv and other formats, stay awake, camera app, t9 dialler, swipe to message/call, reject a call with a message..... and loads more really well thought out features. Touchwiz isn't just the launcher. I use apex and have it looking how I want (stockish), yet retain all the samsung stuff. Why anyone would complain about touchwiz on the S3 is beyond me.
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This. I dusted off my galaxy nexus the other day because I thought I wanted to go back to it ... only phone with stable jellybean right now and all ... but two days with it and I was missing the s3 something almighty with all the "gimmicky" features that are actually very cool.
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dr.m0x said:
This. I dusted off my galaxy nexus the other day because I thought I wanted to go back to it ... only phone with stable jellybean right now and all ... but two days with it and I was missing the s3 something almighty with all the "gimmicky" features that are actually very cool.
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Quite right. I'm planning to sell my nexus now. I think I'm getting over it.
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ceo.mtcl said:
Quite right. I'm planning to sell my nexus now. I think I'm getting over it.
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Don't sell it!
Flash boot 2 gecko on it like I did
Its my experimenting phone these days, building a JB rom to flash now.
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nodstuff said:
Don't sell it!
Flash boot 2 gecko on it like I did
Its my experimenting phone these days, building a JB rom to flash now.
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Gecko... I'm a little lost here friend... ???
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I am running Holo HD but I like touchwiz. Especially the icons, they did an amazing job on the icons. they look so nice now and not preschool like before. So I decided to keep using the touchwiz icons for holo.

Yeah, the thing I love with touchwiz is the message app (stock android'd message app is dead boring), the camera app and a bunch of other stuff.
What kinda is a dealbreaker for me which I can't really decide about is exFAT support. Dumbing down my 64gb microSDXC card kinda feels like a stupid thing to do. exFAT is much faster and allows big chunks to be handled at once (like 16 exabyte chucks instead of 4GB ones)
The whole idea with their Nature UX kinda appeals to me. Soothing alarm and ring tones and beautiful wallpapers. Much better than previous touchwiz's.

i like TouchWiz , tried it on both S2 and S3, i also tried CM9/CM10 on both
I hate the TouchWiz launcher, changing the launcher to something like nova solved my problems.

lol because of this I just reverted back to touchwiz from ADW.

TW versus AOSP ROMs

Hi all, I have been using the galaxy series since E4G and have used both stock based ROMs and AOSP based. I am currently on Sac's ROM 3 and have been curious about running AOSP on my gs4. So anyone that that has made the change to AOSP, did you miss any features only available to TW based ROMs? Like the stock camera? Or calendar app? I use Nova Launcher so I don't really care about the TW launcher.
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I actually prefer the stock camera and calendar in aosp over tw.[emoji3] I'm a huge aosp fan and always used those type of roms. There are so many 3rd party apps out now for those who don't prefer aosp stock gapps..
jflte/LS 3.1/Pokernel

The ## dialer diag features in ASOP ROMs is often missing, and perhaps was missing in every ASOP ROM evaluated to date.
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Hi all, I have been using the galaxy series since E4G and have used both stock based ROMs and AOSP based. I am currently on Sac's ROM 3 and have been curious about running AOSP on my gs4. So anyone that that has made the change to AOSP, did you miss any features only available to TW based ROMs? Like the stock camera? Or calendar app? I use Nova Launcher so I don't really care about the TW launcher.
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I installed cm11 and the voicemail feature was missing, I prefer touchwiz due to more completeness but asop seems a bit quicker with less lag, you won't have the camera with touchwiz due to software optimization.

Check these pictures out. I took them using aosp camera that's in PA gapps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758046 To me its just as good as tw cam. If you use Banks's gapps gives you the Google cam with photosphere and other cool effects.. Then there are tons of apps that can tweak different things..
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flashback7 said:
Check these pictures out. I took them using aosp camera that's in PA gapps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758046 To me its just as good as tw cam. If you use Banks's gapps gives you the Google cam with photosphere and other cool effects.. Then there are tons of apps that can tweak different things..
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How'd youd get that good quality, im on aosp and mine dont ever seem that great
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How'd youd get that good quality, im on aosp and mine dont ever seem that great
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My guess is just daylight. I've had AOSP camera take pics as good as touchwiz but ONLY outside during the day. Indoors with florescent lights or at night never came out as good.
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