TW versus AOSP ROMs - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

Hi all, I have been using the galaxy series since E4G and have used both stock based ROMs and AOSP based. I am currently on Sac's ROM 3 and have been curious about running AOSP on my gs4. So anyone that that has made the change to AOSP, did you miss any features only available to TW based ROMs? Like the stock camera? Or calendar app? I use Nova Launcher so I don't really care about the TW launcher.
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I actually prefer the stock camera and calendar in aosp over tw.[emoji3] I'm a huge aosp fan and always used those type of roms. There are so many 3rd party apps out now for those who don't prefer aosp stock gapps..
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The ## dialer diag features in ASOP ROMs is often missing, and perhaps was missing in every ASOP ROM evaluated to date.
dante32278 said:
Hi all, I have been using the galaxy series since E4G and have used both stock based ROMs and AOSP based. I am currently on Sac's ROM 3 and have been curious about running AOSP on my gs4. So anyone that that has made the change to AOSP, did you miss any features only available to TW based ROMs? Like the stock camera? Or calendar app? I use Nova Launcher so I don't really care about the TW launcher.
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I installed cm11 and the voicemail feature was missing, I prefer touchwiz due to more completeness but asop seems a bit quicker with less lag, you won't have the camera with touchwiz due to software optimization.

Check these pictures out. I took them using aosp camera that's in PA gapps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758046 To me its just as good as tw cam. If you use Banks's gapps gives you the Google cam with photosphere and other cool effects.. Then there are tons of apps that can tweak different things..
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flashback7 said:
Check these pictures out. I took them using aosp camera that's in PA gapps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758046 To me its just as good as tw cam. If you use Banks's gapps gives you the Google cam with photosphere and other cool effects.. Then there are tons of apps that can tweak different things..
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How'd youd get that good quality, im on aosp and mine dont ever seem that great
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How'd youd get that good quality, im on aosp and mine dont ever seem that great
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My guess is just daylight. I've had AOSP camera take pics as good as touchwiz but ONLY outside during the day. Indoors with florescent lights or at night never came out as good.
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Stock Camera for Custom Rom's

Hey All,
Since rooting my SGS2 and installing ICS Roms I find the Camera App is total S**t !
I use the camera loads both still and video.
The stock SGS2 Camera app was awesome !!!!! But the ICS one is rubbish !
I have searched everywhere and stock camera app is not available for custom roms or as an apk file.
So I am trying to find a developer to port the SGS2 Stock Camera App so it will work on all custom roms so we can all use it.
Failing that port it to Root Box Rom by Bajee11 as that's the Rom I use.
If anyone is skilled enough then let me know and we can discuss it further. It has to be totally bug free and working though.
I want this to happen so no time wasters please.
Feel free to leave comments regarding your camera experience on ICS.
Also don't recommend any apps as I wasted money on them all.
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I think it's impossible if you want it go back to stock rom
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Nah I don't think it would be imposable, just a lot of hard work either porting it from GB or starting from scratch. But either way something has to be done cause the ics camera is just crap!
I dont understand your topic. You're talking about a stock camera app. Flash any SAMSUNG based custom or stock ICS Rom and you will have a great camera... If you are using a CM or AOSP based ICS rom, like Rootbox, your camera might be worse. Because you have a Samsung device with Samsung camera, but a not samsung firmware... Or am I thinking wrong here, lolllzzz. Seems like common sense to me...
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Nah I don't think it would be imposable, just a lot of hard work either porting it from GB or starting from scratch. But either way something has to be done cause the ics camera is just crap!
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That's right it is bad but only the cm team can add features to it but no one will port the camera app its not so easy
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I am fully aware that it will be hard but if someone can port the other Samsung apps over then porting this will be possible. It will just take a little hard work and time for someone who has the knowledge about these kind of things (I don't)
Hopefully sooner or later a developer with the skill will answer the call
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It may not be impossible, but you have to understand that the stock Samsung camera app requires the touchwiz framework and system libraries, these files are completely incompatible with the AOSP framework and libraries, also the libraries in question are closed source when distributed by Samsung so any attempt to port or write from scratch would be a complete shot in the dark and while I'm sure there are devas out there who agree with you, with all the issues Samsung creates for AOSP devs a mostly working camera is much further down the list than other projects.
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This is something I've been looking for since I been using CM as well... 6 months now... really sucks to have such a great firmware with such a bad camera... more importantly the reduced camera settings is what makes matter worse...
For eg if you want to make a video with CM Cramera on lowest resolution, a 1 min video is like 40mb... can't even email something like that... while stock allowed 3gp and VGA resolution cams so you can take random small unimp videos to send... like on whatsapp with a 12mb limit you can only make like 5-10 second videos...
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Get UCAM pro. Try it. Seriously great.
The question should be about other third party camera apps available on the play store. Is there any app that comes close to the stock samsung app in the terms discussed above?
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As OP states no point in recommending any PS Apps. I have seriously tried them all and wasted loads of money on inferior camera apps.
There is nothing that comes close to Samsung camera application.
Also I have ucam and it's crap. How you can compare that app to the SGS2 Camera I don't know.
Which is a shame. (
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I agree with op here...the camera of this phone is very good and that's y I hate when it goes to waste on custom ROMs...Samsung ROM is very very ugly but utilizes camera quality to the fullest and has WiFi direct and FM but aosp and aokp ROMs r beautiful but camera sucks and no WiFi direct..spirit FM is the alternative at least
When will the perfect ROM come
Hell I would even buy the ROM like any play store product if it has aosp with Samsung like cam and WiFi direct and FM
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Why don't you use stock ROM with custom theme then?
I'm using Neat ROM and you can flash a custom theme over it (Jkay, vertemus, ...)
There's a lite version in case you don't want all stock Samsung apps.
Not what I am trying to achieve here.
Really want it so the camera application can be shared to all who want it.
Thanks for the idea though.
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geevh said:
Why don't you use stock ROM with custom theme then?
I'm using Neat ROM and you can flash a custom theme over it (Jkay, vertemus, ...)
There's a lite version in case you don't want all stock Samsung apps.
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I'm using that too but it has limitations like the theme is close to aosp but not in full...plus some colours r not very good...some notifications r pure white etc such things...plus changing DPI which is possible in aosp and aokp disrupts the UI in Sammy ROM with aosp theme on it
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Try using Ucam from play store it has most of the features of the stock camera and it also ugly like it
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i miss my stock camera....,could we like port the stock camera...Ive read some threads with instructions to detouchwiz an stock app,but that's gonna be a pain in the [email protected]#$ then again its worth it i guess.
Me too. I love Root Box but stock camera is really good.
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So I just tried ucam and I must say I'm quite impressed by the picture quality... not as good as stock but definitely better than CM...
Problems with it tho are that it keeps trying to autofocus which I find a little annoying...
Secondly and more importantly... its not allowing to take videos in less than 620*480... which was the problem to begin with... I'm starting to think this is a main CM limitation rather than any application...
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The stock camera has the advantage that Samsung can make calls directly to the hardware - fast and efficient. Because the stock camera only runs on Samsung devices.
When we talk about AOSP, now we are talking about generic Android. Google rewrote it for all devices with a general framework - it works on HTC. Now, the hardware cannot be directly addressed. Much more complicated programming - simpler in a way, but harder in others.
Then along comes AOKP. Those guys want to take Google out of the deal entirely, so they again rewrite everything and add another layer of abstraction. And when you think that NOBODY on the AOKP team owns an S2 and they don't even list it as a supported device. It is no surprise that the a large percentage of the features of the S2 are no longer available. For the life of me, I can't understand why putting up Superman wallpaper is better than having a decent camera, long battery life, FM radio, Bluetooth connectivity, etc.....

[Q] camera modes in cm, aokp, jellybam

I was wondering if the camera modes like drama, best face,... were also available in cm based roms or other custom roms not based on samsung roms.
Excuse my English.
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Nope. I can't talk about Jellybam but I have used numerous CM and AOKP builds on my Galaxy S2 and HTC HD2 over the years and the default camera apps that come with them are best described as basic. They also fall short of the stock camera in terms of quality in my experience too, or certainly on the S2 anyway.
However, you can always use 3rd party camera apps which provide more features. You will still have the quality issue though.
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Hmm... I'll stay with samsung based roms then.
Since I like those camera modes a lot
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Looking for a "Best of both worlds" ROM.

I eventually got round to rooting my i9505 the other day and now I'm looking for an AOSP ROM that has the Samsung camera, video player and other useful apps. Has anyone seen anything among the numerous options available that offers this?
Cheers.
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not gonna happen... best you'll manage is a touchwiz rom with JB domination theme...
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So at very best, a GE ROM or even CM10.1 with the Galaxy camera APK that I've seen mentioned would be a good start!?!?
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I will leve that. To many good features are does not exist on custom Roms that are already available in the ugly and not usable touchwiz interface
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mcnob said:
So at very best, a GE ROM or even CM10.1 with the Galaxy camera APK that I've seen mentioned would be a good start!?!?
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sure but half the features on the camera don't work.
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sure but half the features on the camera don't work.
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And that's the only thing putting me off taking the plunge at the moment. I think I'll just start with getting some bloatware off there as it is and see how that goes.
Cheers.

Aosp or touchwiz what's your choice?

As the title says, since the aosp side or development is booming for the GT-I9505 and also the touchwiz so whats for you aosp roms such as cyanogenmod rootbox carbonrom etc; or touchwiz like foxhound and omega?
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I prefer to use TouchWiz but that's personal
I have always been an AOSP fan- it's fast.. really fast.. & lite.
But then again, being a busy student, I find TW's features very useful. The integration makes it easier. Although I do make sure to delete apks that are not useful to me like SHealth & etc.
So I choose TW
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For me its aosp because of the customizations but like the camera on the touchwiz
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how to extract camera app from s4 ?

Hello, i want to install cyanogenmod but from what i read, camer app sux, so i want to install the samsung stock apk, i haven´t flashed CM, (still have touchwiz) how do you extract an apk from the current rom to install it on another rom ???
the touchwiz camera will not work on aosp-based roms as there are framework variations. the 4.3 camera is working superbly for me. cheers.
The cyan camera is great IMO, only issue I've noticed on some aosp ROM's is the HDR being too dark. Easily fixed by just unchoosing and rechoosing the HDR option. I like the focusing a lot more than the stock camera.
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Br4nd3n said:
The cyan camera is great IMO, only issue I've noticed on some aosp ROM's is the HDR being too dark. Easily fixed by just unchoosing and rechoosing the HDR option. I like the focusing a lot more than the stock camera.
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thnx already tried it, camera takes too long to open and i didnt find any modes like the samsung stock (panorama - moving picture .. etc )
probably i´ll wait

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