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Will the epic have dev community like the evo or no
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How would anyone know that......
The only way anyone would know that is in time. You will need to watch the community grow.
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Will the epic have dev community like the evo or no
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Not sure if the EPIC 4G will have all on it's own, but I do see there is a lot of support for the Galaxy S series.. CDMA usually get less dev support than GSM devices, but that has been changing lately.
XDA used to cater mostly to HTC devices.. They have since expanded to different manufacturers.. And there is also the SDX Dev community...
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nope never. the devs are all working now for Sprint and are going to charge for their ROMs
Right now, what I can see, it looks like joeykrim and noobnl and a couple of others or so are cracking away at it. Most of the "action" seems to be happening over at sdx atm.
Unless some of the devs from the other galaxy s phones come over here and share the love, I think "we" might be on our own (so to speak). I saw a few placeholders for roms in the dev section. They might be doing stuff behind the scenes too.
Now I don't have too much free time on my hands. One thing I was pondering was if someone gathered the info from the other galaxy s phones and tried to determine what, if any, might be similarities under the hood. Like was rooting different, same or similar between models? The only apparent difference seems to be the epic has flash led and hardware keyboard. I don't know how much those two things could possibly change the structure of things (hardware and software) between all the models. I suspect there will be quite a few similarities after the dust settles.
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Not sure if the EPIC 4G will have all on it's own, but I do see there is a lot of support for the Galaxy S series.. CDMA usually get less dev support than GSM devices, but that has been changing lately.
XDA used to cater mostly to HTC devices.. They have since expanded to different manufacturers.. And there is also the SDX Dev community...
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They problem is that the epic cant use roms from the other sgs phones like the others can because of the camera, keyboard & touchwiz changes. The drivers are not fully released so I am unsure how porting roms to the epic would work out. I think the epic cant really depend on the other sgs phones for development.
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How would anyone know that......
The only way anyone would know that is in time. You will need to watch the community grow.
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I was asking because I was checking the other galaxy s forums and there dev support nowhere close to the evo. But u are right we will wait and see
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doubt it.. phone to fugly in my opinion.. just got back from sprint store... worse version of galaxy s ever ...
ajftl said:
doubt it.. phone to fugly in my opinion.. just got back from sprint store... worse version of galaxy s ever ...
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I agree with you 100%. I get 27% discount from work and that still could not get me to keep the epic for more then 1 day. I cant believe all the apps\features they left out that the others sgs phones have.
SDX is hard at work on it and the devs there, and some of the users/testers (me), are trying to keep both sides (XDA and SDX) informed on anything that happens on either side.
SDX is really a great community; I've been with them since I purchased my Moment. And it's only because of them that my phone was usable.
I expect that all the missing features and more will be added to the Epic before too long especially if both communities work together with no drama.
I know everyone loves custom roms, but what is it that we want to see from the dev community?
As much as I would love to see custom roms flying out of every orifice, I only loaded custom roms on my EVO to get it up to speed (fps hack, better performance, etc). Also to increase battery life... but it didn't seem to help THAT much.
I'm pretty content with my Epic. The everyday stuff I do on this phone already works perfectly. Games, movies, music, web browsing, camera, etc. It's nuts how fast it is, so I won't be needing to overclock. The only thing I want to see from the dev community right now is root+nand unlocked. I must have root access... it's killing me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877800
The dude has it working.
The dude abides.
Cheers
Edit:
He has pushed the latest initramfs : https://github.com/project-voodoo/nsonsgs-initramfs
Not flashable with Odin Yet.. He will do that tomorrow.
Galaxy S with Nexus S kernel - Booting Nexus S Android Gingerbread
Videos are here:
http://www.youtube.com/supercurioxda
There are like two more other threads about this. Wrong section as well.
It's cool that it's ported but it is far from being a daily driver.
Nice to keep us updated as this is the only forum I check for anything vibrant.
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i think this is the right spot for this but the thing is it's only a headsup for what might be to come. looking forward to what our mods are going to be like though so...
whhooopity doo
I'd love to go ahead and just install this. But it'll prolly cause a myriad of problems on my non i-9000 phone :'(
Is it really THAT hard to dev on samsung devices? Im super greatful for all the great roms that the devs have for us, but im seeing reports all over of stable gingerbread ports to multiple devices, heck even the CLIQ has a gingerbread port before the devices which the Ns is based on.
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Is it really THAT hard to dev on samsung devices? Im super greatful for all the great roms that the devs have for us, but im seeing reports all over of stable gingerbread ports to multiple devices, heck even the CLIQ has a gingerbread port before the devices which the Ns is based on.
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I was just thinking the same thing. The HD2 has it running already with only GPS broken, Built from nexus s source.
nonmindo said:
Is it really THAT hard to dev on samsung devices? Im super greatful for all the great roms that the devs have for us, but im seeing reports all over of stable gingerbread ports to multiple devices, heck even the CLIQ has a gingerbread port before the devices which the Ns is based on.
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what ? point me one working port. You can port Gingerbread to anything you what but nothing is gonna work except the OS
Just give it time. The nexus s is the best thing to happen to us galaxy s users. The nexus s has the same cpu as the galaxy s no? That is a Huge step in the right direction.
I believe in our developers. Its not easy I'm sure, but with patience and respect I'm confident in their ability to deliver us some awesome work.
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kolyan said:
what ? point me one working port. You can port Gingerbread to anything you what but nothing is gonna work except the OS
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you said just one
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/gingerbread-ported-to-htc-hd2/
it is simple,,, SGS 'Developers' are not that good....,, we do not even have a fully functional CM6,,, what will you expect...
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you said just one
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/gingerbread-ported-to-htc-hd2/
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this is a bit different i guess. its ported from Nexus One leak or something and hardware is the same. NS and Galaxy have many differences in hardware.
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it is simple,,, SGS 'Developers' are not that good....,, we do not even have a fully functional CM6,,, what will you expect...
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don't complain if you aren't going to help by developing either.. they all do this for free and not asking people to pay for their hard work.
Did anyone take the i9000 first release out for a test drive on the Vibrant?
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don't complain if you aren't going to help by developing either.. they all do this for free and not asking people to pay for their hard work.
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The problem is most of the "Developers" aren't Developers at all. They're themers and modders.
The reason why there aren't so many good developers for Galaxy S is because the hardware varies too much across the variants (pun unintended).
You can pretty much just think of them as different phones alltogether, because having the same SoC isn't really that much of a biggie. Different phones from different manufacturers can have the same SoC, but that doesn't mean the ROMs will gracefully port from one device to another.
The HD2 is an outliner, because it uses a popular SoC and the phone was released quite a bit before a slew of Android phones were released using similar SoCs (that, and HTC based later phones on similar hardware). It made the ROMs easy to port to that phone, and it made sure the system ran with acceptible performance (due to Google developing on similar hardware).
N8ter said:
The problem is most of the "Developers" aren't Developers at all. They're themers and modders.
The reason why there aren't so many good developers for Galaxy S is because the hardware varies too much across the variants (pun unintended).
You can pretty much just think of them as different phones alltogether, because having the same SoC isn't really that much of a biggie. Different phones from different manufacturers can have the same SoC, but that doesn't mean the ROMs will gracefully port from one device to another.
The HD2 is an outliner, because it uses a popular SoC and the phone was released quite a bit before a slew of Android phones were released using similar SoCs (that, and HTC based later phones on similar hardware). It made the ROMs easy to port to that phone, and it made sure the system ran with acceptible performance (due to Google developing on similar hardware).
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+1............
I was considering the Nexus S (NS) seeing how unlocking the bootloader, rooting, flashing of customs ROM is almost the same.
However, paying an extra SGD$200+ for the NS over the Galaxy S just seem stupid with their hardware being so similar and in some case, thumping the NS. (And seeing how with NS being out, it's possible, the Galaxy S would also have more frequent updates instead of waiting for Samsung)
Coming from being a N1 user of about a year, would i be disappointed in the Developers' support for the Galaxy S if i do choose to get it to replace the N1 which i have sold?
How different is it to flash stuff on the Galaxy S as opposed to the N1? Are the custom ROMs for the Galaxy S every bit the same level of quality as say the ones cooked up for the N1?
Thank you.
Imo native AOSP power from google will always be better than samsung stuff. Though the SGS has become a decent phone recently. Samsung seems to make efforts to get rid off the lags. supercurio blessed us with native ext4 filesystem support. Benjamin dorbell came up with a opensource flash tool on mac/linux/windows: Heimdall. In short: if you choose to use 3rd party software right away and never ever install KIES or anything, you'll enjoy the Samsung Galaxy S.
(make sure you clean up the samsung bloatware with "Sgs tools" app from market.)
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Until now, all the roms except Cyanogen mod are based off Samsung's relatively poor default UI. And Cyanogen mod isn't ready for prime time yet, unlike the multitude of roms available for N1 and it's brother Desire. Without putting down their efforts, current SGS roms (less the incomplete Cyanogen) are basically theming and beautifying the current SGS roms, and removing/adding available APKs, nothing like the MIUI, Sense and AOSP roms available on N1 and Desire.
It will always have slower support than Nexus, which has a much bigger dev base, most of the devs start with shots in the dark.
Remember, Samsung is mostly a hardware company, they need to keep selling phones for profit. Software updates will end at some point - An official Google phone will please you much more if updates are your game.
exactly thats why we hope for a good outcome of supercurio and teams work on a nexus s port. this would make the sgs independent from samsungs poor software development.
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Until now, all the roms except Cyanogen mod are based off Samsung's relatively poor default UI. And Cyanogen mod isn't ready for prime time yet, unlike the multitude of roms available for N1 and it's brother Desire. Without putting down their efforts, current SGS roms (less the incomplete Cyanogen) are basically theming and beautifying the current SGS roms, and removing/adding available APKs, nothing like the MIUI, Sense and AOSP roms available on N1 and Desire.
It will always have slower support than Nexus, which has a much bigger dev base, most of the devs start with shots in the dark.
Remember, Samsung is mostly a hardware company, they need to keep selling phones for profit. Software updates will end at some point - An official Google phone will please you much more if updates are your game.
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Cyanogen for froyo sgs has been abandoned, they will try with gb again I think but not guaranteed success. If they manage to port nexus s gb to sgs I would imagine that porting future google updates would be easier.. But that also is not guaranteed.
But i agree with you.. A modded sgs is one of the best android phones at the moment.
I dont think there is an easy answer at this point.. But imo, as it's 200 cheaper get it for now and then save the other 200 to go towards the next gen android phones.. I think the nexus s hardware will become out dated pretty quickly.
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I was considering the Nexus S (NS) seeing how unlocking the bootloader, rooting, flashing of customs ROM is almost the same.
However, paying an extra SGD$200+ for the NS over the Galaxy S just seem stupid with their hardware being so similar and in some case, thumping the NS. (And seeing how with NS being out, it's possible, the Galaxy S would also have more frequent updates instead of waiting for Samsung)
Coming from being a N1 user of about a year, would i be disappointed in the Developers' support for the Galaxy S if i do choose to get it to replace the N1 which i have sold?
How different is it to flash stuff on the Galaxy S as opposed to the N1? Are the custom ROMs for the Galaxy S every bit the same level of quality as say the ones cooked up for the N1?
Thank you.
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If you want a GPS that works, SGS isn't the way to go. If I hadn't already got a SGS I'd undoubtedly get the NS.
Thanks guys for the input. I'll do some more reading and hopefully 2.3 gets ported to the Galaxy S in the coming weeks.
If that happens, i'll definately get the Galaxy S over the NS.
Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.
I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
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many of the developers love the pure android side of it in the first place, thats why they are here. and ports just arent the same, and dont run as well as a native rom. if you want a port, see what you could do to build one, id try it if you put one out
I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
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I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
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that does make things harder. writing new drivers probably wouldnt be worth it, among other things. that is, unless the developer really wanted that port
When I was on my GNex, I don't remember any Sense/TouchWiz/Blur ROMs, at least not functional.
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You bought a nexus 4, but didn't want AOSP?
If you want a different lock screen, there's apps for that.
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None of the ports would ever get into a useable state or be a fully functional daily driver.
It's easier to have a samsung/htc/whatever and go cyanogenmod when you want the closest-to-stock feel, and you'd also have variations of stock roms (sense, tw..).
I don't think the situation was different in the galaxy nexus forum than it is now here, but i do remember that every once in a while threads about how "all roms are the same" would pop up.
And a last point, i don't get this flashing habbit. There's nothing wrong in sticking to 1 rom for a long time, it only means it's stable and it has all the features you actually use/need. *It's a phone, not a toy, if you're bored during your days maybe it's time to find a hobby or maybe start dating or smth. , or just get another non nexus phone and use it to satisfy your flashoholic needs with buggy ports.
*not being rude..
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No Diversity?
I believe that Diversity starts here.
PIE? Halo? Just a couple off the top of my head.
I would rather have stable and new innovations rather then buggy and every option CM can add thrown at me. Hence why I own a Nexus.
Don't forget Ubuntu Phone, that's pretty far from an AOSP ROM. Most other phones besides Galaxy Nexus don't even have a usable port of this.
Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Human beings can never be satisfied.
(Tendency of human beings)
Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
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Akhil said:
Human beings can never be satisfied.
(Tendency of human beings)
Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
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It happens.
On Moto forums people cry for sense ROM. On HTC forums people cry for touch wiz. On Samsung forums people cry for MotoBlur.
(This may or may not be real but when I was in the moto section before there were so many threads asking for a Sense port)
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I would love a perfectly functioning sense rom for the nexus 4 but I highly doubt that will ever happen. Then again the reason I bought this phone was not to have manufacturer and carrier restrictions like the other ones do.
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Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.
With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.
The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.
I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.
In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
Yeah, where's all the 13 y/o developers (jk) who used to use the kitchen to make cute roms with custom everything (fonts wallpapers bootanimations dialer you name it) and really stand behind the ROM . As much as other big respectable devs who build from source like to ridicule them, I actually really miss them.
I see illusion ROM kinda doing it right now for the nexus 4 and love it. hopefully more come for us...
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Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.
I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
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you have a point....but stock android with optimization is what most people download the roms for and get nexus 4 in first place (for many ppl)
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As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.
With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.
The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.
I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.
In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
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Well you said it, galaxy nexus had jelly bean. There were no big updates during the era of the nexus 4, but give it a bit of time till KLP (or whatever it's gonna be called) arrives, none of those buggy touchwiz or sense roms will interest you. Oh and it's gonna be exclusive to a few devices (nexus line and GE phones)
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I'd rather have developers pushing the boundaries of AOSP (so everyone can enjoy them) than investing time in a proprietary and in the end, lackluster result compared to the stock experience.
Unless the device is a direct relative, you won't see a good port of any OEM firmware.
I believe stock has a great level of quality and that can be seen on the polls, most people using pure stock.
Also we have great Roms that build upon AOSP and our device is first party supported (see PA). With features like HALO, privacy controls and others, they are delivering great improvements across all devices.
In the end, if you want the best AOSP experience, get a Nexus.
If you want the best Touchwiz experience, get S4.
If you want the best Sense experience, get One.
Etc.
If you really need a OEM overlay, I guess you have the wrong device, friend.
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I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
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I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
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Same here, I couldn't stand it for more than 5 minutes when I tried it. I even tried to like the whole pie craze, but after 2 days I got sick of swiping to use the navigation buttons, it just felt like extra work. I mean don't get me wrong the PA team are absolute geniuses at what they do, but it just wasn't for me.
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Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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Not sure what you are looking for or what you are missing, but there has been plenty of Dev support for the VZW VS980
Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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I am talking from my experience with the G Pro. There are Roms but really all those CM based Roms or other ones are all weak compared to the stock based Roms. U loose so many features with those costume Roms. From dual shot camera and video to quick note to smart screen and smart video to some other great features u only have on stock ROM. U basically gonna cripple ur G2 if u use a costume ROM.
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Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.
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OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.
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This thread happens with every new phone lol! O.P even the phones you want to exchange with this one at some point had threads just like this one right before ROMS became available
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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2 roms is far from a lot of support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Sounds like the OP is the typical "user" anymore. For some reason even tjo they have no idea the amount of work that goes into building a rom or a kernel or mod, they just somehow feel entitled to get it when they want it. Guess what dude, had HTC ONE on release day , and development was slower than the G2 is. Want a rom when you want it.....build it yourself . this **** aint easy, if it was youd be building a rom instead of *****ing about it.
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2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.
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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.
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Or just get an iPhone, it seems to have as much development future as the G2 according to the OP
Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Then return it, or sack up n learn how to do it yourself.....
Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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It hasn't even been a full month yet, and we have a decent amount of mods and a couple ROMs already. That's nothing to scoff at by any sort of reasonable standard. Slow your roll, bro.
Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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im a flashaholic, and once i got root on this bad boy i got all my apps i needed
gameplay is smooth
im really liking lg's UI and stock rom/kernel
Phone rarely even gets warm ,not hot.
Camera is really great
Quick Remote is great as well
Im satisfied with stock rom for once. lol
battery is INSANE checkout post #76 screenshots , no way thatll happen on the ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470564&page=8
I've owned plenty of popular flagship devices and even though they have plenty of ROM selection, I've found them to be very similar to each other so I only chose between two or three different ones as my daily driver... So ROM selection is usually over rated based on all the copycat ROM available.
I personally enjoyed my time more with the smaller and unpopular devices that had fewer ROM's at first but then development picked up. Which I think will be the case with this phone.
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Or how about STFU...I think that about covers it ?
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I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Medialunas said:
I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Ya with the nexus phone for sure. But for there non nexus phones.? I don't know if LG can be trusted to update those. Lol
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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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from my experience the best roms out there is the one close to the ship rom. any AOSP or etc. roms will have missing features.
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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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U diserve it, whining cause someone else isnt doing work u want on your timeframe....... If its that big of a deal, do some research, and learn.... then u dont have to depend on anyone but u...