Most Ironic Thing Ever - Nexus S General

Today I got my phone back from Samsung because of some issues with my Nexus S and when I booted it up I saw the unlocked padlock! LOL You'd think they'd relock it...

timchoi89 said:
Today I got my phone back from Samsung because of some issues with my Nexus S and when I booted it up I saw the unlocked padlock! LOL You'd think they'd relock it...
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Why is it ironic? (I don't think your situation was 'ironic') Depending on your issue (which you never said), they may or may not have to mess with the "software". They'd probably thought you'd unlock it anyways, so what's the point.

I thought it was ironic b/c unlocking the bootloader voids your warranty. I was having sreen issues so I sent my phone to Samsung. I never rooted it.

timchoi89 said:
I thought it was ironic b/c unlocking the bootloader voids your warranty. I was having sreen issues so I sent my phone to Samsung. I never rooted it.
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Probably because your screen issues isn't software related which is what unlock the bootloader is.
HTC was the same way with the Nexus One. Doesn't matter if your bootloader is unlocked if you had a hardware problem. Lots of people RMA their Nexus Ones with bootloader unlocked to get power button/overheating/screen/button issues and HTC honored the warranty. (Mine included)

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Relocking bootloader like Nexus S

Hi,
Nexus S is possible to re-lock bootloader with command 'fastboot oem lock'.
Anyone tried it with Nexus one?? (With updated SDK)
Please try it...
It only works if you have an S-OFF HBOOT. Not many people do.
does all the nexus s can be relocked?
Yep, so it seems.
why is this not in the NEXUS S forum instead of nexus one ?
Rusty! said:
It only works if you have an S-OFF HBOOT. Not many people do.
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And how do we check that?
Look at the text at the top of the screen in HBOOT, most will say PVT SHIP S-ON
Snakiej said:
And how do we check that?
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Pretty sure it is in the bootloader at the top left. So power on the phone and hold down the volume down button and when you get to the white screen with the Fastboot & Recovery options... read what is in the upper left corner.
Mine says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
Rusty! said:
Look at the text at the top of the screen in HBOOT, most will say PVT SHIP S-ON
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Mine says the same but
Code:
fastboot oem lock
doesn't work.
Exactly, it needs to say S-OFF for it to work.
Rusty! said:
Exactly, it needs to say S-OFF for it to work.
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Can we set it to off?
No, you're stuck with it as it is.
Rusty! said:
Yep, so it seems.
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well this is really a good news!
evcz said:
well this is really a good news!
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Why? What difference does it make? There is no advantage to having a locked bootloader.
efrant said:
Why? What difference does it make? There is no advantage to having a locked bootloader.
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Because it supposedly void your warranty, but it seems htc is fixing them anyway. However, if one day they decided to screw you over and say they won't fix it because you unlocked the bootloader, there's probably nothing you can do.
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Mokurex said:
Because it supposedly void your warranty, but it seems htc is fixing them anyway. However, if one day they decided to screw you over and say they won't fix it because you unlocked the bootloader, there's probably nothing you can do.
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True enough. If you are really that worried about the warranty (even though HTC has yet to refuse warranty on a device with an unlocked bootloader). Then you shouldn't unlock. Although the warranty states that installing a third-party OS voids the warranty as well, so you'd better make darn sure that you remove all traces of rooting, etc.
I personally don't care about the warranty, because HTC sends you refurbished devices as warranty replacements, and I would rather buy a new one than get a refurb. And besides, my 1-year warranty period is almost up anyway, and I would not buy/want another Nexus One. It will be outdated soon, i.e., once HTC releases some nice aluminum, dual-core devices!
Rusty, what's the actual advantage in being able to relock your bootloader? Is it just to see what capabilities you do/don't have when locked/unlocked?
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I can hide the padlock on bootup. That's all (as far as I know).
efrant said:
True enough. If you are really that worried about the warranty (even though HTC has yet to refuse warranty on a device with an unlocked bootloader). Then you shouldn't unlock. Although the warranty states that installing a third-party OS voids the warranty as well, so you'd better make darn sure that you remove all traces of rooting, etc.
I personally don't care about the warranty, because HTC sends you refurbished devices as warranty replacements, and I would rather buy a new one than get a refurb. And besides, my 1-year warranty period is almost up anyway, and I would not buy/want another Nexus One. It will be outdated soon, i.e., once HTC releases some nice aluminum, dual-core devices!
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Couldn't have described the warranty situation any better. =)
Let's hope we see some of those dual core HTC goodness during CES because im not really digging these Samsung's plastic.

[Q] Do verizon care if I unlock my bootloader and root my Razr m

I wanted to unlock my bootloader and root my razr m but I heard rumors that if you unlock your bootloader, verizon will do something but I don't know what they'll do. I'm just nervous because I don't want to run into any problems
junowhoo said:
I wanted to unlock my bootloader and root my razr m but I heard rumors that if you unlock your bootloader, verizon will do something but I don't know what they'll do. I'm just nervous because I don't want to run into any problems
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rooting/unlocking bootloader voids the warranty. but that is mostly on the motorola side. essentially, if you root/unlock, and have any software related issues, they may help you, but cannot offer you a replacement device.
if there are any problems with the hardware, then they may replace your device.
verizon is still obligated to give you service - as you are paying a monthly subscription for that.
jco23 said:
rooting/unlocking bootloader voids the warranty. but that is mostly on the motorola side. essentially, if you root/unlock, and have any software related issues, they may help you, but cannot offer you a replacement device.
if there are any problems with the hardware, then they may replace your device.
verizon is still obligated to give you service - as you are paying a monthly subscription for that.
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so can I still put a rom on my razr and I wouldn't get in trouble or anything
junowhoo said:
so can I still put a rom on my razr and I wouldn't get in trouble or anything
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do you think if people where getting in trouble for doing this that so many would? companies just like to spread lies about rooting to scare people off.
It's taking all of my restraint not to be grammar police right now.
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junowhoo said:
so can I still put a rom on my razr and I wouldn't get in trouble or anything
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you own the device, you do whatever you want. you won't get arrested/fined or anything like that. the worst possible scenario is that you brick your device and you have to buy a new one off of e-bay for $200.
however, this device is unbrickable.
jco23 said:
you own the device, you do whatever you want. you won't get arrested/fined or anything like that. the worst possible scenario is that you brick your device and you have to buy a new one off of e-bay for $200.
however, this device is unbrickable.
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Alright then, thank you

[Q] Rooting without voiding the warranty?

Hello! If I root my Nexus 10 without unlocking the bootloader, will the warranty be voided or not? I think it will be voided only if the bootloader is unlocked, but it will be better if someone confirms it. Thank you!
kosivi said:
Hello! If I root my Nexus 10 without unlocking the bootloader, will the warranty be voided or not? I think it will be voided only if the bootloader is unlocked, but it will be better if someone confirms it. Thank you!
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IIRC the warranty on a Nexus device is more lenient because... well... it's a Nexus. Any warranty claims for physical hardware issues should still be accepted since it has nothing to do with the software. It's also extremely easy to return to stock and relock the bootloader so even if you do need to send it in for repair, they'll never know.
wireroid said:
IIRC the warranty on a Nexus device is more lenient because... well... it's a Nexus. Any warranty claims for physical hardware issues should still be accepted since it has nothing to do with the software. It's also extremely easy to return to stock and relock the bootloader so even if you do need to send it in for repair, they'll never know.
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Your best bet is to always restore to stock before making a warranty claim. A while ago I remember reading about an Asus user who's headphone port was no longer working but Asus voided the warranty due to the device being rooted. I know that's a pretty different scenario but some warranty reps will find any reason to void your device so they don't have to pay. Always better to be safe than sorry I guess.
As was said before don't worry about rooting, it is extremely easy to get back to stock and since it is a Nexus device you have a ton of failsafe options in case something does happen to go wrong,
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Can you root without unlocking the bootloader?

The title says it all.
Nope not yet and I personally wouldn't expect it anytime soon
I wouldn't either since it is so easy to unlock the bootloader. I understand your hesitation with the warranty question being up in the air.
Unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty, and is pretty easy to do. We won't find an exploit to root without unlocking for quite awhile so I would suggest just unlocking it.
Oaklands said:
I wouldn't either since it is so easy to unlock the bootloader. I understand your hesitation with the warranty question being up in the air.
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Very few will spend time to find an exploit when root is just on the other side of an unlocked bootloader.
I'm not sure why you'd be hesitant to unlock the bootloader, there are no negative effects, only benefits.
Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why you'd be hesitant to unlock the bootloader, there are no negative effects, only benefits.
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You forget security. Unlocking leaves your phone fair game if stolen.
@rbiter said:
You forget security. Unlocking leaves your phone fair game if stolen.
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you can unlock, root, then relock, no?
@rbiter said:
You forget security. Unlocking leaves your phone fair game if stolen.
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Anyone who manages to get their phone stolen doesn't take good enough care of it.
BladeRunner said:
you can unlock, root, then relock, no?
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Yes, that's possible.
Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why you'd be hesitant to unlock the bootloader, there are no negative effects, only benefits.
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No hesitation, just a question I had. I plan on unlocking this weekend. (If I can wait that long!)
Heisenberg said:
Anyone who manages to get their phone stolen doesn't take good enough care of it.
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For the most part that is true.
Never had a phone stolen in all the years I've owned one.
I've owned cell phones for 20+ years.
TheFeelTrain said:
Unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty, and is pretty easy to do. We won't find an exploit to root without unlocking for quite awhile so I would suggest just unlocking it.
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From what I have read it DOES void the warranty
The following applies to all devices, except for Developer Edition devices:
Obtaining an unlock code voids all warranties. Once you get the unlock code, your
device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty, or any other warranty provided
with the device. Neither Motorola, nor your wireless carrier shall have any duty to
provide warranty or customer support for unlocked devices.
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s
But yeah, bootloader unlock is a must on every device, I am unlocking mine in a few weeks, wanna make sure everything is working fine just in case.

Is Warranty Usable After Bootloader Unlock?

Has anyone been able to use the warranty after unlocking the bootloader and relocking it? I ask cuz mine has the random camera buzzing/non-focusing problem and while it isn't annoying right now, it might get worse. I am unsure yet if the bootloader is required to be unlocked to gain any useful features or installing LineageOS
moccor said:
Has anyone been able to use the warranty after unlocking the bootloader and relocking it? I ask cuz mine has the random camera buzzing/non-focusing problem and while it isn't annoying right now, it might get worse. I am unsure yet if the bootloader is required to be unlocked to gain any useful features or installing LineageOS
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For exactly that reason I re-locked my bootloader on my A2017G device. This camera buzzing / vibrating noise is happening to a lot of people.
Just my opinion. There are no ROMs for me that justify a Bootloader unlock since 7.1.1 is stable, fast, reliable and has good Hi-Fi Audio qualities.
It is not an issue of bootloader unlock that causes this.
The camera rotor/OIS is faulty and will be needed to be sent in for repair.
iNaruX said:
For exactly that reason I re-locked my bootloader on my A2017G device. This camera buzzing / vibrating noise is happening to a lot of people.
Just my opinion. There are no ROMs for me that justify a Bootloader unlock since 7.1.1 is stable, fast, reliable and has good Hi-Fi Audio qualities.
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And how do you root your phone with a locked bootloader?
rikin93 said:
It is not an issue of bootloader unlock that causes this.
The camera rotor/OIS is faulty and will be needed to be sent in for repair.
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I am aware, hence my phone being completely stock and asking about whether anyone has proof re-locking a unlocked boot-loader can allow for keeping warranty lol
I unoffically unlocked my bootloader, relocked/loaded stock on the device and returned it with no issues.
nolimit78 said:
I unoffically unlocked my bootloader, relocked/loaded stock on the device and returned it with no issues.
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Well that's a bit different though, because say a place like Newegg or BHPhoto don't know how to check, they just make sure it powers on and everything is in the package. Still appreciate the response.
My axon just got the burn in problem
Dewaynelives said:
My axon just got the burn in problem
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Odd. So basically you contact them and ask for permission, or hope they're dumb and say you keep the warranty with the unlock and that's good enough?
Or did you unlock then relock, then try to use the warranty and they found out?
moccor said:
Well that's a bit different though, because say a place like Newegg or BHPhoto don't know how to check, they just make sure it powers on and everything is in the package. Still appreciate the response.
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I sent mine into ZTE for repair. No issues.
nolimit78 said:
I sent mine into ZTE for repair. No issues.
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Thanks, I'd still like confirmation from a few others though just in case its not a fluke haha
I "officially" unlocked mine through the ZTE website (when it was offered).. I was notified that my warranty was voided before pressing OK and they stated that anything that unlocked the bootloader voided the warranty. But, if you do it unofficially and re-lock it, or get it through Amazon or NewEgg - How are they going to know, or even know what to check (at Amazon or NewEgg)?
tele_jas said:
I "officially" unlocked mine through the ZTE website (when it was offered).. I was notified that my warranty was voided before pressing OK and they stated that anything that unlocked the bootloader voided the warranty. But, if you do it unofficially and re-lock it, or get it through Amazon or NewEgg - How are they going to know, or even know what to check (at Amazon or NewEgg)?
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That is true... i'm just cautious because my phone isn't perfect, I have the common camera problem. If it was fine and then down the line it developed, then w/e. But right now I Should exchanged it, it's just not big enough of a problem where I need to. And tbh I feel like it would just develop again, since so many people have it. If I see a S7 drop down around 350 I am just gonna get this fixed and buy a S7.

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