Hi,
Nexus S is possible to re-lock bootloader with command 'fastboot oem lock'.
Anyone tried it with Nexus one?? (With updated SDK)
Please try it...
It only works if you have an S-OFF HBOOT. Not many people do.
does all the nexus s can be relocked?
Yep, so it seems.
why is this not in the NEXUS S forum instead of nexus one ?
Rusty! said:
It only works if you have an S-OFF HBOOT. Not many people do.
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And how do we check that?
Look at the text at the top of the screen in HBOOT, most will say PVT SHIP S-ON
Snakiej said:
And how do we check that?
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Pretty sure it is in the bootloader at the top left. So power on the phone and hold down the volume down button and when you get to the white screen with the Fastboot & Recovery options... read what is in the upper left corner.
Mine says
NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON
Rusty! said:
Look at the text at the top of the screen in HBOOT, most will say PVT SHIP S-ON
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Mine says the same but
Code:
fastboot oem lock
doesn't work.
Exactly, it needs to say S-OFF for it to work.
Rusty! said:
Exactly, it needs to say S-OFF for it to work.
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Can we set it to off?
No, you're stuck with it as it is.
Rusty! said:
Yep, so it seems.
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well this is really a good news!
evcz said:
well this is really a good news!
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Why? What difference does it make? There is no advantage to having a locked bootloader.
efrant said:
Why? What difference does it make? There is no advantage to having a locked bootloader.
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Because it supposedly void your warranty, but it seems htc is fixing them anyway. However, if one day they decided to screw you over and say they won't fix it because you unlocked the bootloader, there's probably nothing you can do.
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Mokurex said:
Because it supposedly void your warranty, but it seems htc is fixing them anyway. However, if one day they decided to screw you over and say they won't fix it because you unlocked the bootloader, there's probably nothing you can do.
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True enough. If you are really that worried about the warranty (even though HTC has yet to refuse warranty on a device with an unlocked bootloader). Then you shouldn't unlock. Although the warranty states that installing a third-party OS voids the warranty as well, so you'd better make darn sure that you remove all traces of rooting, etc.
I personally don't care about the warranty, because HTC sends you refurbished devices as warranty replacements, and I would rather buy a new one than get a refurb. And besides, my 1-year warranty period is almost up anyway, and I would not buy/want another Nexus One. It will be outdated soon, i.e., once HTC releases some nice aluminum, dual-core devices!
Rusty, what's the actual advantage in being able to relock your bootloader? Is it just to see what capabilities you do/don't have when locked/unlocked?
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I can hide the padlock on bootup. That's all (as far as I know).
efrant said:
True enough. If you are really that worried about the warranty (even though HTC has yet to refuse warranty on a device with an unlocked bootloader). Then you shouldn't unlock. Although the warranty states that installing a third-party OS voids the warranty as well, so you'd better make darn sure that you remove all traces of rooting, etc.
I personally don't care about the warranty, because HTC sends you refurbished devices as warranty replacements, and I would rather buy a new one than get a refurb. And besides, my 1-year warranty period is almost up anyway, and I would not buy/want another Nexus One. It will be outdated soon, i.e., once HTC releases some nice aluminum, dual-core devices!
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Couldn't have described the warranty situation any better. =)
Let's hope we see some of those dual core HTC goodness during CES because im not really digging these Samsung's plastic.
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Today I got my phone back from Samsung because of some issues with my Nexus S and when I booted it up I saw the unlocked padlock! LOL You'd think they'd relock it...
timchoi89 said:
Today I got my phone back from Samsung because of some issues with my Nexus S and when I booted it up I saw the unlocked padlock! LOL You'd think they'd relock it...
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Why is it ironic? (I don't think your situation was 'ironic') Depending on your issue (which you never said), they may or may not have to mess with the "software". They'd probably thought you'd unlock it anyways, so what's the point.
I thought it was ironic b/c unlocking the bootloader voids your warranty. I was having sreen issues so I sent my phone to Samsung. I never rooted it.
timchoi89 said:
I thought it was ironic b/c unlocking the bootloader voids your warranty. I was having sreen issues so I sent my phone to Samsung. I never rooted it.
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Probably because your screen issues isn't software related which is what unlock the bootloader is.
HTC was the same way with the Nexus One. Doesn't matter if your bootloader is unlocked if you had a hardware problem. Lots of people RMA their Nexus Ones with bootloader unlocked to get power button/overheating/screen/button issues and HTC honored the warranty. (Mine included)
After installing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826484 and running Titanium Backup my n7 stopped, a black screen after restart. Disconnecting the battery does not work, nothing happens when plug in to charger, n7 very very quietly squealing.
I can not return it because I have installed other software.
Anything else I can do?
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After installing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826484 and running Titanium Backup my n7 stopped, a black screen after restart. Disconnecting the battery does not work, nothing happens when plug in to charger, n7 very very quietly squealing.
I can not return it because I have installed other software.
Anything else I can do?
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How exactly did you 'disconnect' the battery in a device with a non-removable battery?
Also holding down power button for 30+ Seconds is the universal "Kill switch" for situations like this, I'm thinking popping the battery was probably the worst thing you probably could have done (as you may have done something inside the unit).
Also the "other software" bit... that is not usually a problem if there is actual hardware fault with the unit... however popping the thing open to disconnect the battery most certainly would have voided the hardware portion of the warranty.
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How exactly did you 'disconnect' the battery in a device with a non-removable battery?
Also holding down power button for 30+ Seconds is the universal "Kill switch" for situations like this, I'm thinking popping the battery was probably the worst thing you probably could have done (as you may have done something inside the unit).
Also the "other software" bit... that is not usually a problem if there is actual hardware fault with the unit... however popping the thing open to disconnect the battery most certainly would have voided the hardware portion of the warranty.
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b3at said:
ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=nnFR9SICGgk
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Did you least try holding down the power button for a long duration of time first?
kbeezie said:
Did you least try holding down the power button for a long duration of time first?
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yes, of course
any other idea?
b3at said:
yes, of course
any other idea?
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How old is it? Maybe the battery is shot?
The only other thing I can think of just off the top of my head, is the possibility you didn't ground yourself before messing with the battery and shorted something. Also not sure bout the whining noise from the N7 (as I'm nearly deaf I usually don't hear high pitch stuff from my own stuff).
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How old is it? Maybe the battery is shot?
The only other thing I can think of just off the top of my head, is the possibility you didn't ground yourself before messing with the battery and shorted something. Also not sure bout the whining noise from the N7 (as I'm nearly deaf I usually don't hear high pitch stuff from my own stuff).
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n7 have 8 months.
does anyone have information on how it looks warranty procedure in the case where the guarantee is violated?
b3at said:
n7 have 8 months.
does anyone have information on how it looks warranty procedure in the case where the guarantee is violated?
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The warranty is considered void if the bootloader is unlocked. It does sound like a hardware failure.
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rebel1699 said:
The warranty is considered void if the bootloader is unlocked. It does sound like a hardware failure.
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ok but what happens if I'll send it back with void warranty, worth a try?
b3at said:
ok but what happens if I'll send it back with void warranty, worth a try?
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I guess it is worth a try. If they decide not to honor the warranty, they will call you with the price of the repair, or if you dont want to pay, just to ship it back to you as is.
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rebel1699 said:
The warranty is considered void if the bootloader is unlocked. It does sound like a hardware failure.
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Depending on the company problems caused by hardware (if you can prove it), would be irrelevant if the bootloader was unlocked if the hardware fault would have occurred regardless. I've actually helped a friend (many years ago) get warranty on his HTC Sapphire (T-Mobile MyTouch3G Fender), even though it had been rooted and custom bootloader, because the fault was clearly hardware and unrelated to anything that was done via the software.
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The warranty is considered void if the bootloader is unlocked. It does sound like a hardware failure.
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Are you sure? As far as I know unlocking the boot loader doesn't void the warranty. Only in case the unlocked boot loader is the reason for the fault (I.e. you flashed it with wrong software) the warranty us considered void.
A different thing is opening the case: this might be seen as a reason to declare the warranty void.
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Are you sure? As far as I know unlocking the boot loader doesn't void the warranty. Only in case the unlocked boot loader is the reason for the fault (I.e. you flashed it with wrong software) the warranty us considered void.
A different thing is opening the case: this might be seen as a reason to declare the warranty void.
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We have a sticky here that addresses this issue for most N7 owners. The sticky addresses a number of related issues with their associated fixes. If this sticky doesn't do the trick, you may need to return it.
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problem solved, n7 repaired on the warranty
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Are you sure? As far as I know unlocking the boot loader doesn't void the warranty. Only in case the unlocked boot loader is the reason for the fault (I.e. you flashed it with wrong software) the warranty us considered void.
A different thing is opening the case: this might be seen as a reason to declare the warranty void.
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This is fundamentally true. It's part of the magnussen-moss warranty acct. But if you were denied (wrongly) are you going to legally challenge them over a $200 device?
The warranty act was put in place, partially, to keep Mfgs from requiring branded parts/consumables to get warranty protection. For instance requiring you to run Ford branded oil in your Ford truck. But a side benefit is that you cannot (should not) be denied warranty for a bad windshield washer motor because you put wider rims on your car.
Back to our devices. I think the whole warranty thing is blown out of proportion. There is no bounty for finding rooted device. I guarantee you the returns dept is short staffed and has a metric for how many devices they process a day. Is anyone seeing lots of reports of warranty denied? It's a $200 device, not a new engine for a Subaru WRX.
With all that said I'm not a fan of sending a device that was borked by a bad flash back for warranty replacement. (Bad hardware is a different case.
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I wanted to unlock my bootloader and root my razr m but I heard rumors that if you unlock your bootloader, verizon will do something but I don't know what they'll do. I'm just nervous because I don't want to run into any problems
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I wanted to unlock my bootloader and root my razr m but I heard rumors that if you unlock your bootloader, verizon will do something but I don't know what they'll do. I'm just nervous because I don't want to run into any problems
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rooting/unlocking bootloader voids the warranty. but that is mostly on the motorola side. essentially, if you root/unlock, and have any software related issues, they may help you, but cannot offer you a replacement device.
if there are any problems with the hardware, then they may replace your device.
verizon is still obligated to give you service - as you are paying a monthly subscription for that.
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rooting/unlocking bootloader voids the warranty. but that is mostly on the motorola side. essentially, if you root/unlock, and have any software related issues, they may help you, but cannot offer you a replacement device.
if there are any problems with the hardware, then they may replace your device.
verizon is still obligated to give you service - as you are paying a monthly subscription for that.
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so can I still put a rom on my razr and I wouldn't get in trouble or anything
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so can I still put a rom on my razr and I wouldn't get in trouble or anything
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do you think if people where getting in trouble for doing this that so many would? companies just like to spread lies about rooting to scare people off.
It's taking all of my restraint not to be grammar police right now.
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so can I still put a rom on my razr and I wouldn't get in trouble or anything
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you own the device, you do whatever you want. you won't get arrested/fined or anything like that. the worst possible scenario is that you brick your device and you have to buy a new one off of e-bay for $200.
however, this device is unbrickable.
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you own the device, you do whatever you want. you won't get arrested/fined or anything like that. the worst possible scenario is that you brick your device and you have to buy a new one off of e-bay for $200.
however, this device is unbrickable.
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Alright then, thank you
The title says it all.
Nope not yet and I personally wouldn't expect it anytime soon
I wouldn't either since it is so easy to unlock the bootloader. I understand your hesitation with the warranty question being up in the air.
Unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty, and is pretty easy to do. We won't find an exploit to root without unlocking for quite awhile so I would suggest just unlocking it.
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I wouldn't either since it is so easy to unlock the bootloader. I understand your hesitation with the warranty question being up in the air.
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Very few will spend time to find an exploit when root is just on the other side of an unlocked bootloader.
I'm not sure why you'd be hesitant to unlock the bootloader, there are no negative effects, only benefits.
Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why you'd be hesitant to unlock the bootloader, there are no negative effects, only benefits.
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You forget security. Unlocking leaves your phone fair game if stolen.
@rbiter said:
You forget security. Unlocking leaves your phone fair game if stolen.
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you can unlock, root, then relock, no?
@rbiter said:
You forget security. Unlocking leaves your phone fair game if stolen.
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Anyone who manages to get their phone stolen doesn't take good enough care of it.
BladeRunner said:
you can unlock, root, then relock, no?
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Yes, that's possible.
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I'm not sure why you'd be hesitant to unlock the bootloader, there are no negative effects, only benefits.
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No hesitation, just a question I had. I plan on unlocking this weekend. (If I can wait that long!)
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Anyone who manages to get their phone stolen doesn't take good enough care of it.
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For the most part that is true.
Never had a phone stolen in all the years I've owned one.
I've owned cell phones for 20+ years.
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Unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty, and is pretty easy to do. We won't find an exploit to root without unlocking for quite awhile so I would suggest just unlocking it.
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From what I have read it DOES void the warranty
The following applies to all devices, except for Developer Edition devices:
Obtaining an unlock code voids all warranties. Once you get the unlock code, your
device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty, or any other warranty provided
with the device. Neither Motorola, nor your wireless carrier shall have any duty to
provide warranty or customer support for unlocked devices.
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But yeah, bootloader unlock is a must on every device, I am unlocking mine in a few weeks, wanna make sure everything is working fine just in case.
Has anyone been able to use the warranty after unlocking the bootloader and relocking it? I ask cuz mine has the random camera buzzing/non-focusing problem and while it isn't annoying right now, it might get worse. I am unsure yet if the bootloader is required to be unlocked to gain any useful features or installing LineageOS
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Has anyone been able to use the warranty after unlocking the bootloader and relocking it? I ask cuz mine has the random camera buzzing/non-focusing problem and while it isn't annoying right now, it might get worse. I am unsure yet if the bootloader is required to be unlocked to gain any useful features or installing LineageOS
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For exactly that reason I re-locked my bootloader on my A2017G device. This camera buzzing / vibrating noise is happening to a lot of people.
Just my opinion. There are no ROMs for me that justify a Bootloader unlock since 7.1.1 is stable, fast, reliable and has good Hi-Fi Audio qualities.
It is not an issue of bootloader unlock that causes this.
The camera rotor/OIS is faulty and will be needed to be sent in for repair.
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For exactly that reason I re-locked my bootloader on my A2017G device. This camera buzzing / vibrating noise is happening to a lot of people.
Just my opinion. There are no ROMs for me that justify a Bootloader unlock since 7.1.1 is stable, fast, reliable and has good Hi-Fi Audio qualities.
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And how do you root your phone with a locked bootloader?
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It is not an issue of bootloader unlock that causes this.
The camera rotor/OIS is faulty and will be needed to be sent in for repair.
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I am aware, hence my phone being completely stock and asking about whether anyone has proof re-locking a unlocked boot-loader can allow for keeping warranty lol
I unoffically unlocked my bootloader, relocked/loaded stock on the device and returned it with no issues.
nolimit78 said:
I unoffically unlocked my bootloader, relocked/loaded stock on the device and returned it with no issues.
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Well that's a bit different though, because say a place like Newegg or BHPhoto don't know how to check, they just make sure it powers on and everything is in the package. Still appreciate the response.
My axon just got the burn in problem
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My axon just got the burn in problem
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Odd. So basically you contact them and ask for permission, or hope they're dumb and say you keep the warranty with the unlock and that's good enough?
Or did you unlock then relock, then try to use the warranty and they found out?
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Well that's a bit different though, because say a place like Newegg or BHPhoto don't know how to check, they just make sure it powers on and everything is in the package. Still appreciate the response.
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I sent mine into ZTE for repair. No issues.
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I sent mine into ZTE for repair. No issues.
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Thanks, I'd still like confirmation from a few others though just in case its not a fluke haha
I "officially" unlocked mine through the ZTE website (when it was offered).. I was notified that my warranty was voided before pressing OK and they stated that anything that unlocked the bootloader voided the warranty. But, if you do it unofficially and re-lock it, or get it through Amazon or NewEgg - How are they going to know, or even know what to check (at Amazon or NewEgg)?
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I "officially" unlocked mine through the ZTE website (when it was offered).. I was notified that my warranty was voided before pressing OK and they stated that anything that unlocked the bootloader voided the warranty. But, if you do it unofficially and re-lock it, or get it through Amazon or NewEgg - How are they going to know, or even know what to check (at Amazon or NewEgg)?
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That is true... i'm just cautious because my phone isn't perfect, I have the common camera problem. If it was fine and then down the line it developed, then w/e. But right now I Should exchanged it, it's just not big enough of a problem where I need to. And tbh I feel like it would just develop again, since so many people have it. If I see a S7 drop down around 350 I am just gonna get this fixed and buy a S7.