How long did it take to crack the Droid X bootloader? - Droid X General

Just asking because I am buying either the Atrix or the Nexus S and I need to know how long I should at least expect the Atrix bootloader to be cracked for Ice Cream ROMs....etc.
Thanks!

Last I heard they were having some recent success but still had not fully cracked it.
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DizDroid said:
Last I heard they were having some recent success but still had not fully cracked it.
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OMG, you mean it hasn't been cracked yet? That's it: getting the Nexus S.

TareX said:
OMG, you mean it hasn't been cracked yet? That's it: getting the Nexus S.
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Although it isn't cracked per se, Koush's Droid X Boostrapper allows for a "hijacked" recovery.That allows running custom roms, nandroid backups, underclocking/overclocking, undervolting/overvolting, etc. just that we cannot use custom kernels as of yet.

cvhovey said:
Although it isn't cracked per se, Koush's Droid X Boostrapper allows for a "hijacked" recovery.That allows running custom roms, nandroid backups, overclocking, etc. just that we cannot use custom kernels as of yet.
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Which means you can't get Gingerbread to run on it (for e.g.) as that would require a custom kernel...

P3droid already has a "developers" release of Gingerbread for the Droid X (sans Blur, though that could be added to the release version) from Motorolta. And cvpcs has CM 7 booting on the Droid X, as well.
In short, I think if there's a good phone, expect the devs to tinker until they find a way around things.

TareX said:
Which means you can't get Gingerbread to run on it (for e.g.) as that would require a custom kernel...
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I've seen a number of people dispute this. They've said we can run Gingerbread with the current kernel we have.

TareX said:
Which means you can't get Gingerbread to run on it (for e.g.) as that would require a custom kernel...
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This has been proven wrong. The D1 runs GB with a .32 kernel, same as our X.
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gingerbread does work on the current kernel but it has taken long to get a working rom. i have a droid x and if u want an ice cream rom thats not happening on the atrix especially since it came with froyo and not gingerbread. u would have to wait until motorola releases it which would be about 10 months. go with the nexus s unless u really need dual core and the 4g speed and the docking features

cvhovey said:
P3droid already has a "developers" release of Gingerbread for the Droid X (sans Blur, though that could be added to the release version) from Motorolta. And cvpcs has CM 7 booting on the Droid X, as well.
In short, I think if there's a good phone, expect the devs to tinker until they find a way around things.
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The cm7 is a Dec build too right?

They didn't crack it, but nevertheless, expect optimizations. When there's a dev and a community, there's a way.

TareX said:
Just asking because I am buying either the Atrix or the Nexus S and I need to know how long I should at least expect the Atrix bootloader to be cracked for Ice Cream ROMs....etc.
Thanks!
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Troll. .

rocko73 said:
Troll. .
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Not a troll. I paid $670 for the Atrix last week, and I made the wrong decision. Should have gone for the Nexus S.
What use is a Tegra 2 phone that becomes choppy once I put on a live wallpaper, sucks up the battery, heats up when I do anything, and can't play my 720p mkv files without recoding them?
I can't return it because I bought it on ebay. Stupid Bell stores wouldn't sell it off contract.
So yeah, I'm stuck with it.

TareX said:
Not a troll. I paid $670 for the Atrix last week, and I made the wrong decision. Should have gone for the Nexus S.
What use is a Tegra 2 phone that becomes choppy once I put on a live wallpaper, sucks up the battery, heats up when I do anything, and can't play my 720p mkv files without recoding them?
I can't return it because I bought it on ebay. Stupid Bell stores wouldn't sell it off contract.
So yeah, I'm stuck with it.
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Well put it back on ebay for the same price. Problem solved.

rocko73 said:
Well put it back on ebay for the same price. Problem solved.
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That would be hard since the original seller now has his new Atrix's down $80, while mine is opened and used.

TareX said:
That would be hard since the original seller now has his new Atrix's down $80, while mine is opened and used.
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Well you would have paid a restocking fee anyhow. Best hurry before it's down another $80.

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Which do you beleive will have better roms?

Looking to upgrade from nexus one to either atrix or galaxy sII. They both have good hardware and it would be nice to have the bigger screen of the galaxy but it doesn't really matter to me.
I don't really trust Samsung with software upgrades and I have never had a Motorola before. I think what my decision is going to come to is which one will have the most custom rom development.
Anyone have any guesses on which one you believe will have more custom rom options?
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
I haven't been paying much attention to it, but I thought they already figured out a way to root the atrix
That has nothing to do with the bootloader.
I would choose the atrix,only cause of the massive battery.
evilkorn said:
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
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djsaad1 said:
I haven't been paying much attention to it, but I thought they already figured out a way to root the atrix
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Problem is that you can be rooted but if the bootloader is encrypted like many Motorola's you cannot install a custom recovery to flash custom ROM's, you just have SU access being rooted.
I would take a nook color modded to have honeycomb over both
donmoosavi said:
I would take a nook color modded to have honeycomb over both
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Right, because that is a phone.
DumbUglyDragon said:
Right, because that is a phone.
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That's NOT the question of this topic, "Which do you beleive will have better roms?".
I agree with with donmoosavi. I too would take the Nook Color over anything Motorola or Samsung.
Samsung and motorola are trying to prevent installation of alternative roms. So I will avoid these.
LG maybe.
OrganizedFellow said:
That's NOT the question of this topic, "Which do you beleive will have better roms?".
I agree with with donmoosavi. I too would take the Nook Color over anything Motorola or Samsung.
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Seems to me the OP is asking the question in reference to phones, since he is looking to upgrade his Nexus One to an Matrix/GS2
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looks like the bootloader is encrypted on the atrix, that is now off the list.
djsaad1 said:
looks like the bootloader is encrypted on the atrix, that is now off the list.
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Actually the bootloader isn't encrypted, but it does perform a signature verification on the files... so the end result is the same. No custom roms as it sits right now.
Bummer.
I thought that by now, Motorola would have embraced the community.
evilkorn said:
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
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this. and htc puts stupid sense on the phones, only sense-less makes sense for me...
thus i wait for the nexus 2, the nexus s isn't appealing at all for me.
the atrix is sweet but no stock android, encrypted bootloader, firefox on the webtop.
there's currently just no phone that is a worthy replacement imo.
dronarg said:
Samsung and motorola are trying to prevent installation of alternative roms. So I will avoid these.
LG maybe.
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This is my thought as well. I won't get another android phone without community support. After watching Vibrant & Droid X development and their troubles I've ruled out both these manufactures regardless of specs.
I expect LG to be the most open of the upcoming android dual core models. It's just a guess though.
Most definitely NOT the Atrix. XDA should let that phone die... Hit them where it actually hurts with phone sales, rather than buying it in hopes to it being cracked one day.
The SGS II looks like the way to go between those two. Unless you feel like waiting to see what HTC ends up releasing.
As for LG, I have no idea. Never owned an LG phone before... The Optimus' bezel sticks out too much along the touch screen, so that'll probably be a deal breaker for me. We'll see when it actually comes out. Till then, it's a waiting game for me.
OrganizedFellow said:
Bummer.
I thought that by now, Motorola would have embraced the community.
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The Xoom has the same oem unlock/lock features of the Nexus S but unfortunately I think that's simply because it's a pure Google experience rather than a change in Motorolas views.
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gstar_raw said:
Most definitely NOT the Atrix. XDA should let that phone die... Hit them where it actually hurts with phone sales, rather than buying it in hopes to it being cracked one day.
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It's too bad that the number if people using cooked roms are a margin of error if the phone is successful for the normal consumer. The network perception will do 20x more to hurt sales than the locked bootloader ever will.
That being said, I'd wait for HTC to announce thier next gen (pyramid et al.)
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Bootloaders not actually unlocked

The Droid X, Milestone etc bootloaders were not actually unlocked. It was a hoax. http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-bootloader-still-encrypted-developer-comes-clean
I don't see why so many are willing to put up with this. There are plenty of other good android phones out there. As long as Motorola is going to fight this, there will never be a truly safe way to flash custom roms/kernels on droid phones, and devs simply aren't going to invest the time necessary to develop much.
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I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
disappointing, and we all know now not to ever trust nenolod again. thunderbolt here i come...
I think its horrible that some one thought it was funny that this happened. I know I am a no body to the android community but I for sure did an "unfollow" on twitter today.
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
@nenolod purposefully lied to us. http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=l8sp.png&xsize=480&ysize=480
This is ridiculous. He cannot be doing this @&#( to us. I have lost all respect for this guy
And the thing is he said it was because people kept bothering him about the stuff. Well I never even heard of this guy until all this came out as im sure the case with most people, so why play this stupid "trick" on all of us?
Again, lets throw all of out locked droid x's at him. He shoukd be banned from android period
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1tonyj said:
That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
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I would recommend a Galaxy S. The bootloaders are unlocked and it now has a functional CM7 version. Plus, nothing beats the Super AMOLED screen.
Yeah this was pretty lame, got my hopes up, so I just got a dinc for now until I can afford a new phone or get my upgrade.
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I loved my Droid X when I first got it. Rooted it and had leaked Froyo running on it before OTA was available. After that there was not much more I could do with it. Bought a used Captivate on ebay. There are lots of custom ROMs and kernels to choose from. When September rolls around I hope there is a new Samsung phone available. No more Moto's for me.
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Galaxy S phones are very solid, with a few mods, it will fly. Plus the bootloader is unlocked, if u are coming from the x, you will greatly appreciate this. I just picked up a thunderbolt and so far, i love it. Its crazy fast, LTE or not, and having the 256mb of extra ram really makes for a phone that never slows down, no matter what you are doing. My only complaint other than the battery being undersized, as HTC ALWAYS does, is the adreno 205, people with the mytouch or G2 will tell you its good. When voming from a galaxy s the GPU is the only thing that i dont think is better.
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faber78 said:
and the next phone wont be locked.
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Yes, yes it will.

galaxy s gets gingerbread before atrix?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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Magic_Bunny said:
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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motorola is getting beta testers for gingerbread? did they put up a sign up like for the update or just announce it?
Motor is asking for beta testers? If so...then GB will be released
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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it makes sense that the phone that's been out for a year gets it first....
since google released the 2.3 source code, the company has been doing nothing but preparing an update most likely. motorola however, needed to iron out kinks in their initial 2.2 release before they can consider developing a 2.3 OS, and then allowing carriers to modify it to your liking.
obviously you didn't think about what has to be done to come up with a polished 2.3 update before it can be released as an official OTA update. you really can't fault motorola for this not being out yet. it takes a lot of time, testing, and effort to release a finished product.
Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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well, the problem is that they probably started dev for the atrix's OS before 2.3 was released, so it would have been even more work, and probably would have caused delays in their release of the phone if they had shipped it with 2.3
I know locked bootloader is a massive drag for 3rd party dev, but you really can't fault moto for any decisions they've made with this phone other than that.
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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slimslim said:
I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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My fault!!!! Sorry guys!!!
I didn't read the whole post from moto forum. At the end of that post there is an edit, that says it was about the 1.5.7 update we already got! My mistake, my fault, sorry
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ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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actually you're not skipping honeycomb....
honeycomb is a totally different series in Android OS, tablet-specific series to be precise (3.0)
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
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So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
Paschalis said:
Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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link please?
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
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i believe that it has some modicum of support for dual core, but is not completely optimized for it as 2.4 will be.
that's just my understanding, if someone could provide a link to prove me wrong then i'd freely accept it.
Gingerbread as currently released for SGS has some glitches but guess what Samsung just released the source code! So we should be seeing fixes and tricked out kernels/ROMS/system apps very soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12992329&posted=1#post12992329
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I saw the signup sheet too. It never hurts to waste a little time each day looking through these forums. I swear I saw a link for it. I looked at it and saw some sign up thingy on Motorola's website.

Can the droidx2 gingerbread update be ported to atrix??

Can gingerbread fir the droid x2 be ported over the atrix4g?? Their both Motorola. Both have tegra 2 dual core. Same ram(I think). Can't a dev decode the softwear and port it to the atrix so it can be flash through sbf light.????
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Must likely no. an sbf wouldn't be properly signed, we don't have an unlocked bootloader so we can't flash roms and we would need the proper device drivers and kernels anyway. The current ones wouldn't work for that rom. And I'm not really sure about the display but if it's not a qHD with the same resolution then all graphics would have to be redone as well
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Must likely no. an sbf wouldn't be properly signed, we don't have an unlocked bootloader so we can't flash roms and we would need the proper device drivers and kernels anyway. The current ones wouldn't work for that rom. And I'm not really sure about the display but if it's not a qHD with the same resolution then all graphics would have to be redone as well
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About the display, it's qHD.
The DX2 hasn't got a Gingerbread update yet.
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About the display, it's qHD.
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Thank you, I was being lazy and didn't feel like searching lol. Is it the same resolution as well? (I guess today is just a lazy day haha)
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Thank you, I was being lazy and didn't feel like searching lol. Is it the same resolution as well? (I guess today is just a lazy day haha)
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Belive so. That said, I dont see a kernel transplant working because it would be signed differently than the Atrix kernels are. If they're the same, thats an epic security fail on Moto's part.
The biggest difficulty with porting gingerbread from DX2 would most likely be that DX2 doesn't have gingerbread
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The biggest difficulty with porting gingerbread from DX2 would most likely be that DX2 doesn't have gingerbread
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Lol... good catch. The original Droid X has gingerbread, but the X2 shipped with Froyo.
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Lol... good catch. The original Droid X has gingerbread, but the X2 shipped with Froyo.
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Well that seems rather backwards.
Oh yea Weh did that "2" came from. I ment droid x.
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January 2012 SOAK Test for Atrix

Did anyone else get this email. In it the Atrix 4g was specifically mentioned for SOAK test registration for January 2012.
Got it about 10 min ago. I hope its ICS!
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So I get this and registered...awaiting response.....now should I flash fruitcake or try to flash the SBF? Wondering what will get me the least likely hood of hard bricking my phone.
Hmm.
Is that meen that we will get ICS soon?
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So I get this and registered...awaiting response.....now should I flash fruitcake or try to flash the SBF? Wondering what will get me the least likely hood of hard bricking my phone.
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I am wondering the same thing...should I get back on stock?
I think it is just 2.3.7
I got it too, too little too late from moto for me, not a chance in hell it's ics but it's good they haven't forgotten about the phone
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what's SOAK Test???
I doubt moto would waste time doing a soak test for a higher version of gingerbread -- especially since they've got a whole host of other phones for which they need to provide support. Rejoice people, this is ICS!!
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I doubt moto would waste time doing a soak test for a higher version of gingerbread -- especially since they've got a whole host of other phones for which they need to provide support. Rejoice people, this is ICS!!
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It's hard to believe but you have a good point... I'm so disappointed with Motorola that I don't doubt it could be a fail update to fix something that just make our life a little worse (like ripping off root/HDMI mirroring and stuff)
This will be my last Motorola phone for sure.
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fernandoavc said:
It's hard to believe but you have a good point... I'm so disappointed with Motorola that I don't doubt it could be a fail update to fix something that just make our life a little worse (like ripping off root/HDMI mirroring and stuff)
This will be my last Motorola phone for sure.
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I feel the same way. However, if this is ICS, I may reconsider my stance
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I'm not bothering this time around (deleted my Blur backup by mistake).
If it is ICS, I'll just wait till the fine folks in development get CM9 working right.
MacAlert said:
I'm not bothering this time around (deleted my Blur backup by mistake).
If it is ICS, I'll just wait till the fine folks in development get CM9 working right.
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+1
And this won't be my last Moto phone for sure. Imo, Moto makes the best looking phones. If you want updates - pick a Moto phone that has the biggest developer community.
Community ROMs ALWAYS beat the official crap that Motorola releases.
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I'm not bothering this time around (deleted my Blur backup by mistake).
If it is ICS, I'll just wait till the fine folks in development get CM9 working right.
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if it is it'll at least mean we can enjoy a blur free ics 100% working rom a lot quicker. but i just refuse to believe that the atrix is going to be the 2nd ics phone behind gnex.
Got it this morning around 2am central time. Signed up and hoping its ICS.
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I joined how I get approved will this mean I get ICS? Also what will happen to my root status?
I think this will be exciting to see how the new motoblur looks, they have said that they want to make less phones and more support for phones, and with google behind them and the pressure on from samsung, my eyes and ears are looking to moto to put up a fight. another point is that google is hard on about using the ICS halo theme and google owns moto, maybe the order came from the top, ICS with less blur out faster please.
xploited said:
+1
And this won't be my last Moto phone for sure. Imo, Moto makes the best looking phones. If you want updates - pick a Moto phone that has the biggest developer community.
Community ROMs ALWAYS beat the official crap that Motorola releases.
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I've no doubt that the community makes the difference I also saw someone else post saying that even if Motorola release a ICS he will still use CM9 instead... I just feel abandoned by Motorola in a lot of ways such improvements in the entertainment center, no FM radio (no subtitles) and other stuffs that they never ever reply.. They could at least provide the libs as they will not care....
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The only reason I use moto blur roms is because I really like the lapdock, that's why am I really hoping that they bring out an ics ROM.
Who the hell wants Blur ICS?
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