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HTC Evo 4G And Samsung Epic 4G Camera Comparison

ok i took three shots, one at midday with the sun fully beaming, one at the time where the sun was going down and than finally one at night. each was a picture of the same thing (my work/metro health hospital) and in the same parking spot. i will label above the picture what time of the day it was as well as what phone captured it. without further ado, here we go! (PS: you can easily tell which one is the winner just by graininess)
Evo Day
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Epic Day
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Epic Sundown
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Epic Night (haha that sounds like a title of a get laid movie :smile: )

evo definately wins this.. Im impressed. but the epic isnt bad.. definately not as sharp as the evo but that could be because of the 3mp difference in the cameras. But maybe its me but i feel like the epic camera takes a better night shot

I think the Epic looks better... not sure what ^ this guy is thinking, but the Epic clearly looks more realistic and has a better night shot.

infamousjax said:
I think the Epic looks better... not sure what ^ this guy is thinking, but the Epic clearly looks more realistic and has a better night shot.
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Oh God yes. The Epic looks sooooo much more natural. You can see the famous over saturation going on in the EVO pictures. Those blues look so fake. I would say they are a tie at night... I don't like either of them there.

Did u really sit in your car all day and take pictures with your phones lol?

You know what, I today was offered a trade. A trade for the evo again, what held me back was the amazing and natural feel the EPIC provides. The EVO IS over saturated and i am yet to see a video as good as the epic, and yes this is with the 3mp less, so what an amazing feat from samsung! I love how the ceo stated, its all in the software and how its used.
I am still sitting on debate, why i don't know maybe the 4.3 inch screen. Yet, this 4.0 is so much better. Ah..
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I concur. The EVO looks completely over-saturated. Anyone who knows photography or picture dynamics can tell you that the pictures comparisons above prove that the Epic takes more natural looking pictures. All it is is an over-compensation on the part of HTC to attempt to balance out the quality of their almost always horrible cameras. And for the record; More megapixels does not always mean a better picture.
+1 for the Epic's camera.

jok3sta said:
evo definately wins this.. Im impressed. but the epic isnt bad.. definately not as sharp as the evo but that could be because of the 3mp difference in the cameras. But maybe its me but i feel like the epic camera takes a better night shot
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+1 except for night shot.
In that shot EVO looks to give more detail on building windows etc catching night refection light better

I've compared both as well and the epic pics are more real and close 2 life like colors.
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Actually the night shot is definitely better on the Epic..it is true that you can see more stuff in the EVO picture...but notice the weird unnatural brightness...also look at the closer lamp post one epic you can see the lens flare and light as it should be..on EVO its completely bland with no light depth...
Whats happening is Epic is achieving closer blacks as EVO is trying to compensate visualization by highlighting everything..
Look at the mirror glass...notice in the epic the rim stays the same color in all the pics, on the night pic the rim completely changes color..not to mention the epic shows an actual reflection there..unlike the EVO which completely fails due to the highlighting.
On the other pics yes, EVO seems to have more detail..it may be due to he 3 mp or it may be due to Epic compressing the image. The colors though on EVO are WAY off though...

I've owned both the Epic and Evo. In my opinion, the Evo was worthless as a camera. The quality is was inconsistent and the flash blew out the quality.
The Epic on the other hand is one of the better cameras I've seen on a phone. I used the Panoramic feature on it last weekend and it worked great. Definitely more feature rich in terms of camera, and the quality seems to be more consistent.

Guys, just because you have more MP does not mean the picture will be better quality. Just bigger. And I challenge you to take 720p video with the two.... the Epic will blow your minds. The EVO has horrible compression and going from low to high light the evo stays with the lower frame rate where the epic adjusts. Plain and simple the Epic destroys the evo in video.

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Guys, just because you have more MP does not mean the picture will be better quality. Just bigger. And I challenge you to take 720p video with the two.... the Epic will blow your minds. The EVO has horrible compression and going from low to high light the evo stays with the lower frame rate where the epic adjusts. Plain and simple the Epic destroys the evo in video.
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i have to weigh in on this topic. I am a big user of phone cameras. I have toyed with photography for over a decade and have been looking for a decent camera phone for a long time. That is why i still kept an LG Renior around. I have my wife use it even though she doesn't use the camera. But when i need a good photo, i just ask for her phone.
Anyhow, i had the Evo and found that I could only get so so pictures with it. Mostly it had to do with software. On the Galaxy S I was able to get great photos. It rivals the Renoir. I know none of these phones have a camera worth ditching my canon's for, but still nice to have around when i need it. The guy who took these photos should set both to night mode. And the ISO's to the lowest possible setting. When i take galaxy photos at night at 100 ISO, they are not grainy. your subject needs to be still, but in those photos, the subject was static.
To me, i'd rate the galaxy about an 8 as far as camera phones go. I'd rate the EVO a 5.

Does the epic have night mode? If so the night shot should have looked better.

Whosdaman said:
Did u really sit in your car all day and take pictures with your phones lol?
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hahaha i was on breaks at work and that is bethind the building in a parking spot where i go for a smoke.... just went for my lunch and 2 breaks and snapped a photo while doing so on all three.

I went and swapped out the Evo for an Epic recently. So this isn't biased in any way since I do have the Epic, but the Evo takes some amazing photos. 90% or better are not oversaturated. There are certain photos that do feel bluish, but i took over 300 - 400 photos of my baby girl and the photos look crystal clear with very realistic color. The photos rival those of my 10 Megapixel DSL camera. I have to give this to the Evo. I haven't taken nearly as many photos with the Epic yet, but the 3 MP makes a huge difference on the photos. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this, but I can't justify 3 MP less and hundreds of photos that prove me otherwise, just to feel better about the epic. I love this phone anyways so I'm not complaining, but that is the one thing the Evo just wins in my opinion and I personally can't argue it.

Six-Deuce said:
The photos rival those of my 10 Megapixel DSL camera. I have to give this to the Evo. I haven't taken nearly as many photos with the Epic yet, but the 3 MP makes a huge difference on the photos.
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you mean dslr? there is no way the evo or any cellphone comes even close to the quality of a dslr, and if you knew anything about photography, you would know that more megapixels (more often than not) does not equate to better picture quality.

Six-Deuce said:
I went and swapped out the Evo for an Epic recently. So this isn't biased in any way since I do have the Epic, but the Evo takes some amazing photos. 90% or better are not oversaturated. There are certain photos that do feel bluish, but i took over 300 - 400 photos of my baby girl and the photos look crystal clear with very realistic color. The photos rival those of my 10 Megapixel DSL camera. I have to give this to the Evo. I haven't taken nearly as many photos with the Epic yet, but the 3 MP makes a huge difference on the photos. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this, but I can't justify 3 MP less and hundreds of photos that prove me otherwise, just to feel better about the epic. I love this phone anyways so I'm not complaining, but that is the one thing the Evo just wins in my opinion and I personally can't argue it.
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You either have a crappy dSLR, smoking something great, or have bad taste.

jbmn said:
I've owned both the Epic and Evo. In my opinion, the Evo was worthless as a camera. The quality is was inconsistent and the flash blew out the quality.
The Epic on the other hand is one of the better cameras I've seen on a phone. I used the Panoramic feature on it last weekend and it worked great. Definitely more feature rich in terms of camera, and the quality seems to be more consistent.
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Yeah I totally agree.. I have both phones also.. I'm on the epic only because of the camera! soo much better.

I gotta say the evo looks better in those pics.
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Get the Epic now?

I know, I may be crazy but I'm thinking about swapping my EVO for an Epic 4G now. It'd be an even swap, so I wouldn't have to pay or anything. I know other Galaxy phones are going to come out, and maybe even soon, but I'd imagine they would cost more with no contract and my upgrade isn't due until August anyway.
I take a lot of photos and videos on my phone and I've come to realize that the EVO just doesn't do a great job of videos, it's Ok when it comes to photos.
So I have a few questions. Is the leaked froyo update good enough to run as a ROM with EVERYTHING working? Being on EVO 2.2 since August, pretty much can't go back to 2.1. Do you think Samsung will release 2.2 officially soon? And how is the camera for stills and videos?

While I can't comment on if official froyo is coming soon I can say that the current dk28 leaks are stable daily drivers. I've run all of the froyo leaks and this is much more stable and easily a daily driver. You would have no issues immediately going to froyo. The epic is a great phone and I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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yes, yes, and the camera is better than the evo. you will be addicted to the screen and the speed too. i know, had both. enjoy

Epic specs
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.

Who knows when the official froyo update will come, but DK28 worked well for me so I'm not too worried about it. No problems at all. I think the camera is excellent for a phone. A few sites have threads full of examples, like this one: http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/32332-epic-photography.html The video is good enough to replace my little HD digital camcorder. It's obviously not going to be as good as a real HD camcorder, but it's more than adequete for home movies and whatnot.

picture quality is more about the lens than megapixels. i don't know what it is about htc's cameras but they all pretty much suck. i haven't seen a phone take better pictures than the epic does

I recently jumped from the Evo to the Epic as well and am glad I did. It will be at least summer before any new "super phones" appear on Sprint (my guess) and you will be much happier with the Epic's speed while you wait for your next phone.
Epic beats the Evo in every way except GPS which is usable but slower/less accurate on Epic.
Edit: I found the Epic's camera to be better than the Evo - make sure you go into the settings and turn on "anti-shake" right away as it helps a lot.

nikon120 said:
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
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well, just do what i did, me and my buddy(with evo) sent 3 pictures we took from the same street we were on , to a email, then compared them right next to each other(he was skeptical like you), believe me when i tell you that the epic was better. try it

v3rk said:
picture quality is more about the lens than megapixels. i don't know what it is about htc's cameras but they all pretty much suck. i haven't seen a phone take better pictures than the epic does
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Yeah, megapixels don't really say much about the quality of the photos. It's good for marketing, though.

nikon120 said:
Epic specs
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
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One would Assume that because 8mp is a bigger # then 5mp its automatically better right? Wrong, and that's why i don't just assume things, i have 2 see them both 4 myself... The Epic camera takes better quality photos then the EVO Period.
I am by no means a photographer but this is a picture taken by me on a hunting trip this past October in Arizona, Note the quality of THIS 5mp Camera

ericizzy1 said:
well, just do what i did, me and my buddy(with evo) sent 3 pictures we took from the same street we were on , to a email, then compared them right next to each other(he was skeptical like you), believe me when i tell you that the epic was better. try it
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i think i will have the epic for a day or so before i get rid of the EVO, so I do plan on doing this.

I am in a similar position.
I am STILL using a TP2, and was waiting for the Shift 4G's release to make a decision.
I don't know whether to let my company both activate a line and buy an Epic for me now.
Or, continue paying for my personal TP2 bill out of my own pocket and wait for the new dual cores before accepting the line and phone from my company.
Any advice ???

nikon120 said:
Epic specs
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
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Compare a kodak 8 mp to a nikon 5 mp and you'll see why higher mp are not an indication of a better camera.
From a phone

Epic uses a cmos sensor similar or same as on Iphone 4. Also known to have better video and picture image quality than EVO, especially under low light conditions which EVO's sensor struggles at.
Article - http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/S...DROID-X---the-camera-comparison_id2532/page/7
Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGKdgTuhpS0
Not trying to be a fanboy but Iphone 4's camera and screen are the kings ATM and the 5mp vs. 8mp debate is irrelevant.
FYI... with the upcoming release of HTC Swift, Epic just dropped -$50.

Some details of a soon to be announced Galaxy S successor:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/samsung-mobile-boss-confirms-galaxy-s-successor-galaxy-tab-road/

nikon120 said:
Epic specs
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
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Wow, your lack of knowledge is clearly evident here just by seeing you point to megapixels vs quality of sensor (no offense ). Anyone who knows both the Evo and Epic will tell you that the Epic's 5MP sensor takes BETTER pictures than the Evo's 8MP sensor.
Has little to do with teh megapizzellss but rather the quality of the sensor. Also anyone who knows about cameras will tell you the same as well.

Get the Epic
I just replaced my EVO with an Epic and have never been happier.
The Screen just feels awesome and the keyboard is wicked.
It also is wayyy faster but I will say one thing. Coming from the Evo, the Epic and Evo have the same Camera quality. Epic FFC wins because it performs better in low light conditions, but the rear camera quality is about the same.

From what I've read online in comparison tests, the Evo pics are rated lower than the Epic. I don't remember but I think the Epic uses better hardware

Well you may be right, but from my personal point of view..... their cameras' are the same

To add on to others comments about camera quality if your camera has a crappy white balance etc. it just doesn't matter. Megapixels only matter anyway if you intend to make large prints or do some serious editing both of which I doubt you would use an phone to take pictures for.
My point is sensor quality more important than snazzy numbers.

HTC One vs iPhone 5 Camera Shootout

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These images from the HTC ONE look far better than the ones in the thread where it vs the lumia 920.

I think that the quality is close to iphone 5s photos BUT iphone 5 has twice information then One. Try to resize iphones 5 photos and compare them to HTC Ones...probably its not from retail unit but I expected more especially indoor images with low light enviroment...but its not bad result at all. Sony XZ isnt good enought for me so I will wait for samsung what to show us as photo shooting is very important to me and after SGS3 I had and sold they have to really show something

I think the photos from the One look mainly better than iPhone 5.
If you zoom to 100% you can see some lost detail on the outdoor shot. Other than that, the details are there. And who zooms in 100% anyway. Especially the last shot is impressive as the One X also has major problems with too much lighting. The photo from the One looks very good, given that there is so much light from the side.

I'm sorry but pic 2 looks like the red dot phenomena all over again. Damn, a lot of people had that problem when the One X launched.

OK last photo, but I still think at least 6Mpx they should leave. with 4Mpx forget about cropping and forget about zoom in with fine details...just look at two years old SGS2 photos, resize them to 4Mpx and you will see that there is not such a difference and furthermore I bet that SGS2 photos will be better...Im fan of HTC for this year as they prepared amazing phone but maybe they killed it at least for me with this camera
PS: last notice, photos of HTC One are so much oversharped (the flower) my samsung i8510 did so much better pictures with almost DLSR background blurness in macro shots and beautifull detailed shots...

I played with the htc one, I don't see much of a problem with the camera on the one. Even so I was having doubts after seeing some images but these images above have relaxed me again.

I don't get why everyones like OMG THE CAMERA IS GUNNA SUCK
No one uses a phone camera for professional photography, it's mostly point and shoot stuff.
HTC were right, most of the pictures people take just end up on Facebook/email etc and you hardly need fantastic quality for that.
The images in my opinion look very good though.

kalo88 said:
I don't get why everyones like OMG THE CAMERA IS GUNNA SUCK
No one uses a phone camera for professional photography, it's mostly point and shoot stuff.
HTC were right, most of the pictures people take just end up on Facebook/email etc and you hardly need fantastic quality for that.
The images in my opinion look very good though.
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I agree undoubtedly
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Im not a professional photographer, but that doesnt mean I dont wanna maximum from my phone for 600Euro espacially when samsung know how to do good camera in 8mm thick phone...I dont have DSLR nor cheap compact camera. Thats why I wont from this deivce the max as I take only phone to holidays and trips...if they will managed better photo shots and samsung will fail I will go for One as it looks like amazing phone in these days...so tell me why they advertise how good is it if they dont want to people buy it for camera possibilities??? just think about it I dont need 808 quality photos but dont wanna spend 600Euros for worse photo results than 2 years old SGS2 you know

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Im not a professional photographer, but that doesnt mean I dont wanna maximum from my phone for 600Euro espacially when samsung know how to do good camera in 8mm thick phone...I dont have DSLR nor cheap compact camera. Thats why I wont from this deivce the max as I take only phone to holidays and trips...if they will managed better photo shots and samsung will fail I will go for One as it looks like amazing phone in these days...so tell me why they advertise how good is it if they dont want to people buy it for camera possibilities??? just think about it I dont need 808 quality photos but dont wanna spend 600Euros for worse photo results than 2 years old SGS2 you know
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Those pictures above though show it's just as good as the iphone 5 if not better?
So why are the photo results worse than a SGS2?

kultus said:
Im not a professional photographer, but that doesnt mean I dont wanna maximum from my phone for 600Euro espacially when samsung know how to do good camera in 8mm thick phone...I dont have DSLR nor cheap compact camera. Thats why I wont from this deivce the max as I take only phone to holidays and trips...if they will managed better photo shots and samsung will fail I will go for One as it looks like amazing phone in these days...so tell me why they advertise how good is it if they dont want to people buy it for camera possibilities??? just think about it I dont need 808 quality photos but dont wanna spend 600Euros for worse photo results than 2 years old SGS2 you know
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I have had GS1/2/3 & GN2 and while camera is good (not the greatest) outdoors and indoors in dark (except GS1), they were terrible where there was light in the background. Also video audio sucked on all of them aswell and again video qaulity was good but not the greatest.

HTC photos look very good!

The performance of HTC One in this post is far better than the others on net but the CNet reviewer only just used 3M mode in this review(not 4.1M) while ip5 is 8M! Not a far comparsion.

If I remember correctly, he uses 4M but he crops the images for webview (One uses 16:9 per default it seems, he wants pictures of the same aspect ratio).

WHAT??!! HTC One uses 4Mpx at 16:9? are you serious...so when you want standard 4:3 photo you will loose 1Mpx? thats nonsense if its true...standard usage for most people is to use 4:3 and if you want 16:9 phone will crop it automatically (8Mpx 4:3 -> 6Mpx 16:9)...

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WHAT??!! HTC One uses 4Mpx at 16:9? are you serious...so when you want standard 4:3 photo you will loose 1Mpx? thats nonsense if its true...standard usage for most people is to use 4:3 and if you want 16:9 phone will crop it automatically (8Mpx 4:3 -> 6Mpx 16:9)...
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Its just the standard setting probably. He cropped it manually.
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yes the 16x9 is cropped, 4x3 gives you full size but from what i can tell these pictures are already in 4x3

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hamdir said:
yes the 16x9 is cropped, 4x3 gives you full size but from what i can tell these pictures are already in 4x3
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What he did:
Shoot at 16:9 (phone shoots in 4:3, crops it)
Crop it back to 4:3
A bit fail, but not as much as the SGS3 guy...
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Guys if I ever develop a whole 4mp image shot from HTC One what photo print size would it be if I print it?

Nokia 925 Vs Htc One's camera. Nokia better?

Seems like Nokia 925 is giving HTC One's camera a run for its money.
It has similar features while have double the MPs and better low light performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_vPz6hcW0&list=HL1373932162

No one said the one's camera was the end all, be all of performance.
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ECEXCURSION said:
No one said the one's camera was the end all, be all of performance.
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It is a major part of htc one. the main feature that set it aprt form the rest including dual speakers and 1080p screen res.
but for the camera to be better they had to cut down to 4mp.
Nokia seems to have achived better results with 8mp which is sad for me as a htc one owner.
Ofcourse nokia uses windows which truly sucks.

Something "better" always comes out after you purchase the "latest and greatest."
Performance is always improving and considering the 925 is an update on the 920, what did you expect?
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I think the camera in my 920 totally blew away the camera in my One, but I get the impression the One can still be improved with some software tweaks. The 920 wasn't awesome on the initial software either.
Sometimes though I get really great pictures out of my One, its just not very consistent.

RaXxaa said:
Nokia seems to have achived better results with 8mp which is sad for me as a htc one owner.
Ofcourse nokia uses windows which truly sucks.
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They HAVE to have one killer feature to make people forget that they'll never get any apps.
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Oh good grief. It's packing a slightly better camera but the same dual-core S4 processor that was in last year's One XL, only 16GB of storage, and an inferior 332ppi display. It's an obsolete phone and it hasn't even been released yet.

Well you couldn't have seriously thought the ones camera would be forever superior to all future devices...
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iElvis said:
Oh good grief. It's packing a slightly better camera but the same dual-core S4 processor that was in last year's One XL, only 16GB of storage, and an inferior 332ppi display. It's an obsolete phone and it hasn't even been released yet.
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Your other points were valid, but 332ppi inferior?
Like the cameras in our phones, people take ppi too seriously.

RaXxaa said:
It is a major part of htc one. the main feature that set it aprt form the rest including dual speakers and 1080p screen res.
but for the camera to be better they had to cut down to 4mp.
Nokia seems to have achived better results with 8mp which is sad for me as a htc one owner.
Ofcourse nokia uses windows which truly sucks.
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You don't need to hate on Nokia and windows. Why do you need more than 4MP? I doubt you have a single display higher than 2-3MP.
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eallan said:
You don't need to hate on Nokia and windows. Why do you need more than 4MP? I doubt you have a single display higher than 2-3MP.
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Holy cow that's a terrible argument.

Well, I have just swapped from Lumia 920 to HTC One and I knew straight away, that the upgrade will be a real camera downgrade, and not just because of megapixels.
HTC One's camera handles very poorly at very bright sun light, hdr is underperforming as well but other than that, it is more then enough for daily shots.
Moving from WP back to Android was absolutely worth it, I don't know why I was tempted to give WP a chance.
Very little quality apps, terrible battery life. The only thing I miss is the WP keyboard

henrybravo said:
Holy cow that's a terrible argument.
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Sure it is guy. That's why your rebuttal was so good
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eallan said:
Sure it is guy. That's why your rebuttal was so good
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Arguably, the Bayer filter makes it equivalent to a 1MP photo.
The filter basically means that the photo is in a Pentile layout. That means effective resolution compared to a theoretical RGB sensor is less.

RaXxaa said:
Seems like Nokia 925 is giving HTC One's camera a run for its money.
It has similar features while have double the MPs and better low light performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_vPz6hcW0&list=HL1373932162
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You should probably go buy the Nokia. Thank you.

I Am Marino said:
Your other points were valid, but 332ppi inferior?
Like the cameras in our phones, people take ppi too seriously.
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HTC One's 468ppi > Nokia's 332ppi
Therefore the Nokia's display is inferior to the HTC One's I'd say. At least on paper...

I Am Marino said:
Your other points were valid, but 332ppi inferior?
Like the cameras in our phones, people take ppi too seriously.
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My One X had a display in that range, and I could see the difference between the two. 332 isn't bad, it's just inferior to 468.

eallan said:
Sure it is guy. That's why your rebuttal was so good
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Ahh yes, you are correct - my uncharacteristically poor rebuttal was lame because it was 2 in the morning here and I was going to bed. I will get back to being myself below.
"Why do you need more than 4MP? I doubt you have a single display higher than 2-3MP"
Try cropping and zooming an image that is 4 mp versus one that is, say, 8 mp or higher, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Let's take this photo for instance. It's one I just randomly pulled off the public internet, hence the watermark.
The original:
Cropped:
If this were a 4 mp photo, since I have cropped roughly 50% of the area of the photo, it would now be a 2 mp photo. Everyone will tell you, rightly, that a 2 mp photo these days is pretty unacceptable - no one remotely interested in taking good photos would buy a phone or camera with a 2 mp sensor. You can't print the photos very big and they will just look soft. You can argue that the photographer should have just been closer to the people to begin with and framed the shot better in the first place. Well, in the world of walking around with a smartphone, when taking candid unplanned photos it is impossible to always frame the shot to the point where cropping isn't desirable.
Now I'm not saying people that are manipulating photos like this will necessarily be the type to use a 4 mp smartphone camera, but it does happen. Recently I took a picture of one of my sons at his graduation using my HTC One (my wife had the Canon DSLR camera). The picture quality was good, but there was a jubilent kid within the frame of the shot giving the "devil horns" symbol and sticking his tongue out to someone. When I cropped this kid out of the shot, I was left with basically a 2 mp photo. Had this picture been taken on 10-20 mp camera for example (a common pixel count range for middle to upper-middle quality cameras these days) the final result would have been a much more acceptable 5-10 mp. Of course, more megapixels is not always better (sensor quality is paramount), but that is an entirely different topic that's been discussed ad nauseum.

The problem is that most here on xda think cell phone companies are only manufacturing devices for us here on xda. Which we're only a small percentage.
Cell phone companies are manufacturing devices for the general consumer which excludes us since we have a more understanding of how things or some things work and know they can work better.
My point is that the general consumer, well most, will never crop nor will go and print out a poster size picture they took with their mobile device. They are just going to snap a shot, share it on a social site or to a friend or family.
By the way, didn't mean to thank you on your other post. Freebie

RaXxaa said:
Seems like Nokia 925 is giving HTC One's camera a run for its money.
It has similar features while have double the MPs and better low light performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_vPz6hcW0&list=HL1373932162
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Use HDR, that guy probably used night mode for HTC One. Nokia also uses some kind of software editing after it takes the picture to make it brighter.
Here is a HDR Photo in extreme low light. The only light in the room is that light comes from monitor.
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And same image with night mode
And this is from HTC Sensation, low light mode

First full day with my Moto-x and Iphone pic comparision

I purchased a moto-x yesterday out of contract to give it a "road test" and If I liked it I would return it and order 32gb as my Iphone 5 replacement. I had to make a trip to NYC today. My train ride into Penn station is typically 1 hr 10 minutes and today I waited another 10 at the platform. I started out at 100% and started streaming Spotify over LTE and sat on reddit and google chrome for most of the way along with a few games of solitaire and burnt it down to 65%. I fared about the same with my Iphone 5 while making the same run pre-IOS7 however expect worse performance after the update. I was in battery park for the most of the day and lost another ~10% in the subway roaming/intermittent streaming. By the time I got on the train 7 hours later I was at 35%, I used the navigation for about 10 minutes to get some food (awesome btw).
Things I like about the phone.
The screen size is nicer than the Iphone 5 however may not be "as bright" I assume this has to do with the OLED screen.
The Active notifications has to be my favorite feature. It really is quite nice and I dread going back to my Iphone 5 without it.
The active feature while driving is nice however I haven't given it the full test yet.
Google Hangouts is amazing, it really is and I am going to force my girlfriend to use it on her iphone.
Android feels like a smart phone that wants to "help you". I'm sure that doesn't make sense. It just has some mystical google type power IMO.
Things I don't like.
I was hoping battery life would be a little better based on reviews, however I find it good enough.
The camera however this is an AT&T phone without the latest update. The camera will make or break this phone for me as I have a room full of fishing pictures, most are really good and taken with smartphone camera's (Iphone's.)
Also I tried to scan a barcode and it was just NOT happening while on the train, something the iphone did no problem (using myfitnesspal)
It also doesn't charge as fast as my iphone, however that may be because of the larger battery?
Also, when I return this phone this weekend, is there A way I can have everything backed up, so when I get my new phone I won't have to set everything up again and download all these apps over?
Here is the pic comparison, done side by side. http://imgur.com/a/tywmw

I'm actually having trouble making my picture look as bad off as you did and I am not able to reproduce it.
The color in my photos is spectacular, way better than my HTC One. I just took this of my salt water fish tank and it's way more than close... It's impeccably accurate.
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Doing photo comparisons at this point is a waste of time. Att is going to have the update out very soon so why bother. The camera is great after the fix.
Compare then.
To answer your question you have the option to back up ur apps through your Google account. They redownload as soon as you log in on the next phone

osiris355 said:
Doing photo comparisons at this point is a waste of time. Att is going to have the update out very soon so why bother. The camera is great after the fix.
Compare then.
To answer your question you have the option to back up ur apps through your Google account. They redownload as soon as you log in on the next phone
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yesterday... i have just flash the tmo firmware on my unlock bootloader rogers version... and update ! my wife now want the white moto x ! pictures quality is just like the day and night... equal or better to the iphone 5... equal to the sg4 ...
... mmm i have say the tmobile firmware is excellent ... no brand no bloat ( retail en us on the about ) ...

Would you say the battery life is pretty similar for both phones? also how much thicker is the moto x?

mhsbrian said:
I'm actually having trouble making my picture look as bad off as you did and I am not able to reproduce it.
The color in my photos is spectacular, way better than my HTC One. I just took this of my salt water fish tank and it's way more than close... It's impeccably accurate.
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Don't think i'm dissing the phone, I like it more than the iphone5
I'm just waiting for the update.

People tend to like the over saturated photos that the iPhone and Samsung produces... The Moto X creates pictures closer to real life colors.
Its the same with DSLR's, Canon processes photos with colors close to real life but the Nikon gives it more saturation - newcomers tend to go Nikon for this reason.
I prefer the real life colors, and I'll add saturation if needed later on.
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rman18 said:
People tend to like the over saturated photos that the iPhone and Samsung produces... The Moto X creates pictures closer to real life colors.
Its the same with DSLR's, Canon processes photos with colors close to real life but the Nokia gives it more saturation - newcomers tend to go Nokia for this reason.
I prefer the real life colors, and I'll add saturation if needed later on.
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Agree 100 percent, iPhone photos always bleed colors and it's especially seen in very detailed things.
In terms of Nikon and canon, I shoot with a Canon and only would buy an older Nokia if I was to but one myself.
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mhsbrian said:
Agree 100 percent, iPhone photos always bleed colors and it's especially seen in very detailed things.
In terms of Nokia and canon, I shoot with a Canon and only would buy an older Nokia if I was to but one myself.
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-_- Nokia? I think you mean Nikon.

mentose457 said:
-_- Nokia? I think you mean Nikon.
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SwiftKey filled it in for me lol
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rman18 said:
People tend to like the over saturated photos that the iPhone and Samsung produces... The Moto X creates pictures closer to real life colors.
Its the same with DSLR's, Canon processes photos with colors close to real life but the Nokia gives it more saturation - newcomers tend to go Nokia for this reason.
I prefer the real life colors, and I'll add saturation if needed later on.
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Again I think you mean NIKON. I never experienced excessive saturation on any of Nikon DSLRs. I never used retard mode or full retard mode on them though. If you are using those modes on your Canon, well, congratulations.

mentose457 said:
Again I think you mean NIKON. I never experienced excessive saturation on any of Nikon DSLRs. I never used retard mode or full retard mode on them though. If you are using those modes on your Canon, well, congratulations.
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NIKON, as you say.. Makes great cameras I don't see what your point here is besides starting a war that's been waged since the dawn of personal photography.
On another note, my main camera is a pentax k-5, that doesn't mean it shoots way better photos. But it's weather resistant and takes the best night pictures of any camera I've ever owned.
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mhsbrian said:
NIKON, as you say.. Makes great cameras I don't see what your point here is besides starting a war that's been waged since the dawn of personal photography.
On another note, my main camera is a pentax k-5, that doesn't mean it shoots way better photos. But it's weather resistant and takes the best night pictures of any camera I've ever owned.
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Just pointing out that any camera that has manual control can be adjusted to take life like colors. IMO comparing auto modes on manual cameras is stupid.
My boss shoots a k-5, its an attractive camera. I like that the image stabilization is in the camera not the lens.

mentose457 said:
Just pointing out that any camera that has manual control can be adjusted to take life like colors. IMO comparing auto modes on manual cameras is stupid.
My boss shoots a k-5, its an attractive camera. I like that the image stabilization is in the camera not the lens.
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Yeah, it's a fantastic camera... The biggest turn on for me was the Iso noise is tremendously low even at very high Iso ranges.
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