Seems like Nokia 925 is giving HTC One's camera a run for its money.
It has similar features while have double the MPs and better low light performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_vPz6hcW0&list=HL1373932162
No one said the one's camera was the end all, be all of performance.
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ECEXCURSION said:
No one said the one's camera was the end all, be all of performance.
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It is a major part of htc one. the main feature that set it aprt form the rest including dual speakers and 1080p screen res.
but for the camera to be better they had to cut down to 4mp.
Nokia seems to have achived better results with 8mp which is sad for me as a htc one owner.
Ofcourse nokia uses windows which truly sucks.
Something "better" always comes out after you purchase the "latest and greatest."
Performance is always improving and considering the 925 is an update on the 920, what did you expect?
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I think the camera in my 920 totally blew away the camera in my One, but I get the impression the One can still be improved with some software tweaks. The 920 wasn't awesome on the initial software either.
Sometimes though I get really great pictures out of my One, its just not very consistent.
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Nokia seems to have achived better results with 8mp which is sad for me as a htc one owner.
Ofcourse nokia uses windows which truly sucks.
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They HAVE to have one killer feature to make people forget that they'll never get any apps.
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Oh good grief. It's packing a slightly better camera but the same dual-core S4 processor that was in last year's One XL, only 16GB of storage, and an inferior 332ppi display. It's an obsolete phone and it hasn't even been released yet.
Well you couldn't have seriously thought the ones camera would be forever superior to all future devices...
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Oh good grief. It's packing a slightly better camera but the same dual-core S4 processor that was in last year's One XL, only 16GB of storage, and an inferior 332ppi display. It's an obsolete phone and it hasn't even been released yet.
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Your other points were valid, but 332ppi inferior?
Like the cameras in our phones, people take ppi too seriously.
RaXxaa said:
It is a major part of htc one. the main feature that set it aprt form the rest including dual speakers and 1080p screen res.
but for the camera to be better they had to cut down to 4mp.
Nokia seems to have achived better results with 8mp which is sad for me as a htc one owner.
Ofcourse nokia uses windows which truly sucks.
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You don't need to hate on Nokia and windows. Why do you need more than 4MP? I doubt you have a single display higher than 2-3MP.
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You don't need to hate on Nokia and windows. Why do you need more than 4MP? I doubt you have a single display higher than 2-3MP.
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Holy cow that's a terrible argument.
Well, I have just swapped from Lumia 920 to HTC One and I knew straight away, that the upgrade will be a real camera downgrade, and not just because of megapixels.
HTC One's camera handles very poorly at very bright sun light, hdr is underperforming as well but other than that, it is more then enough for daily shots.
Moving from WP back to Android was absolutely worth it, I don't know why I was tempted to give WP a chance.
Very little quality apps, terrible battery life. The only thing I miss is the WP keyboard
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Holy cow that's a terrible argument.
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Sure it is guy. That's why your rebuttal was so good
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Sure it is guy. That's why your rebuttal was so good
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Arguably, the Bayer filter makes it equivalent to a 1MP photo.
The filter basically means that the photo is in a Pentile layout. That means effective resolution compared to a theoretical RGB sensor is less.
RaXxaa said:
Seems like Nokia 925 is giving HTC One's camera a run for its money.
It has similar features while have double the MPs and better low light performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_vPz6hcW0&list=HL1373932162
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You should probably go buy the Nokia. Thank you.
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Your other points were valid, but 332ppi inferior?
Like the cameras in our phones, people take ppi too seriously.
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HTC One's 468ppi > Nokia's 332ppi
Therefore the Nokia's display is inferior to the HTC One's I'd say. At least on paper...
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Your other points were valid, but 332ppi inferior?
Like the cameras in our phones, people take ppi too seriously.
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My One X had a display in that range, and I could see the difference between the two. 332 isn't bad, it's just inferior to 468.
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Sure it is guy. That's why your rebuttal was so good
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Ahh yes, you are correct - my uncharacteristically poor rebuttal was lame because it was 2 in the morning here and I was going to bed. I will get back to being myself below.
"Why do you need more than 4MP? I doubt you have a single display higher than 2-3MP"
Try cropping and zooming an image that is 4 mp versus one that is, say, 8 mp or higher, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Let's take this photo for instance. It's one I just randomly pulled off the public internet, hence the watermark.
The original:
Cropped:
If this were a 4 mp photo, since I have cropped roughly 50% of the area of the photo, it would now be a 2 mp photo. Everyone will tell you, rightly, that a 2 mp photo these days is pretty unacceptable - no one remotely interested in taking good photos would buy a phone or camera with a 2 mp sensor. You can't print the photos very big and they will just look soft. You can argue that the photographer should have just been closer to the people to begin with and framed the shot better in the first place. Well, in the world of walking around with a smartphone, when taking candid unplanned photos it is impossible to always frame the shot to the point where cropping isn't desirable.
Now I'm not saying people that are manipulating photos like this will necessarily be the type to use a 4 mp smartphone camera, but it does happen. Recently I took a picture of one of my sons at his graduation using my HTC One (my wife had the Canon DSLR camera). The picture quality was good, but there was a jubilent kid within the frame of the shot giving the "devil horns" symbol and sticking his tongue out to someone. When I cropped this kid out of the shot, I was left with basically a 2 mp photo. Had this picture been taken on 10-20 mp camera for example (a common pixel count range for middle to upper-middle quality cameras these days) the final result would have been a much more acceptable 5-10 mp. Of course, more megapixels is not always better (sensor quality is paramount), but that is an entirely different topic that's been discussed ad nauseum.
The problem is that most here on xda think cell phone companies are only manufacturing devices for us here on xda. Which we're only a small percentage.
Cell phone companies are manufacturing devices for the general consumer which excludes us since we have a more understanding of how things or some things work and know they can work better.
My point is that the general consumer, well most, will never crop nor will go and print out a poster size picture they took with their mobile device. They are just going to snap a shot, share it on a social site or to a friend or family.
By the way, didn't mean to thank you on your other post. Freebie
RaXxaa said:
Seems like Nokia 925 is giving HTC One's camera a run for its money.
It has similar features while have double the MPs and better low light performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_vPz6hcW0&list=HL1373932162
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Use HDR, that guy probably used night mode for HTC One. Nokia also uses some kind of software editing after it takes the picture to make it brighter.
Here is a HDR Photo in extreme low light. The only light in the room is that light comes from monitor.
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And this is from HTC Sensation, low light mode
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I know, I may be crazy but I'm thinking about swapping my EVO for an Epic 4G now. It'd be an even swap, so I wouldn't have to pay or anything. I know other Galaxy phones are going to come out, and maybe even soon, but I'd imagine they would cost more with no contract and my upgrade isn't due until August anyway.
I take a lot of photos and videos on my phone and I've come to realize that the EVO just doesn't do a great job of videos, it's Ok when it comes to photos.
So I have a few questions. Is the leaked froyo update good enough to run as a ROM with EVERYTHING working? Being on EVO 2.2 since August, pretty much can't go back to 2.1. Do you think Samsung will release 2.2 officially soon? And how is the camera for stills and videos?
While I can't comment on if official froyo is coming soon I can say that the current dk28 leaks are stable daily drivers. I've run all of the froyo leaks and this is much more stable and easily a daily driver. You would have no issues immediately going to froyo. The epic is a great phone and I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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yes, yes, and the camera is better than the evo. you will be addicted to the screen and the speed too. i know, had both. enjoy
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
Who knows when the official froyo update will come, but DK28 worked well for me so I'm not too worried about it. No problems at all. I think the camera is excellent for a phone. A few sites have threads full of examples, like this one: http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/32332-epic-photography.html The video is good enough to replace my little HD digital camcorder. It's obviously not going to be as good as a real HD camcorder, but it's more than adequete for home movies and whatnot.
picture quality is more about the lens than megapixels. i don't know what it is about htc's cameras but they all pretty much suck. i haven't seen a phone take better pictures than the epic does
I recently jumped from the Evo to the Epic as well and am glad I did. It will be at least summer before any new "super phones" appear on Sprint (my guess) and you will be much happier with the Epic's speed while you wait for your next phone.
Epic beats the Evo in every way except GPS which is usable but slower/less accurate on Epic.
Edit: I found the Epic's camera to be better than the Evo - make sure you go into the settings and turn on "anti-shake" right away as it helps a lot.
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
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well, just do what i did, me and my buddy(with evo) sent 3 pictures we took from the same street we were on , to a email, then compared them right next to each other(he was skeptical like you), believe me when i tell you that the epic was better. try it
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picture quality is more about the lens than megapixels. i don't know what it is about htc's cameras but they all pretty much suck. i haven't seen a phone take better pictures than the epic does
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Yeah, megapixels don't really say much about the quality of the photos. It's good for marketing, though.
nikon120 said:
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
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One would Assume that because 8mp is a bigger # then 5mp its automatically better right? Wrong, and that's why i don't just assume things, i have 2 see them both 4 myself... The Epic camera takes better quality photos then the EVO Period.
I am by no means a photographer but this is a picture taken by me on a hunting trip this past October in Arizona, Note the quality of THIS 5mp Camera
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well, just do what i did, me and my buddy(with evo) sent 3 pictures we took from the same street we were on , to a email, then compared them right next to each other(he was skeptical like you), believe me when i tell you that the epic was better. try it
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i think i will have the epic for a day or so before i get rid of the EVO, so I do plan on doing this.
I am in a similar position.
I am STILL using a TP2, and was waiting for the Shift 4G's release to make a decision.
I don't know whether to let my company both activate a line and buy an Epic for me now.
Or, continue paying for my personal TP2 bill out of my own pocket and wait for the new dual cores before accepting the line and phone from my company.
Any advice ???
nikon120 said:
Epic specs
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
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Compare a kodak 8 mp to a nikon 5 mp and you'll see why higher mp are not an indication of a better camera.
From a phone
Epic uses a cmos sensor similar or same as on Iphone 4. Also known to have better video and picture image quality than EVO, especially under low light conditions which EVO's sensor struggles at.
Article - http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/S...DROID-X---the-camera-comparison_id2532/page/7
Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGKdgTuhpS0
Not trying to be a fanboy but Iphone 4's camera and screen are the kings ATM and the 5mp vs. 8mp debate is irrelevant.
FYI... with the upcoming release of HTC Swift, Epic just dropped -$50.
Some details of a soon to be announced Galaxy S successor:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/samsung-mobile-boss-confirms-galaxy-s-successor-galaxy-tab-road/
nikon120 said:
Epic specs
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So I'm not entirely understanding your comment about picture quality. 8 megapixels vs. 5 megapixels. One would assume 8 wins over 5 in this situation.
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Wow, your lack of knowledge is clearly evident here just by seeing you point to megapixels vs quality of sensor (no offense ). Anyone who knows both the Evo and Epic will tell you that the Epic's 5MP sensor takes BETTER pictures than the Evo's 8MP sensor.
Has little to do with teh megapizzellss but rather the quality of the sensor. Also anyone who knows about cameras will tell you the same as well.
Get the Epic
I just replaced my EVO with an Epic and have never been happier.
The Screen just feels awesome and the keyboard is wicked.
It also is wayyy faster but I will say one thing. Coming from the Evo, the Epic and Evo have the same Camera quality. Epic FFC wins because it performs better in low light conditions, but the rear camera quality is about the same.
From what I've read online in comparison tests, the Evo pics are rated lower than the Epic. I don't remember but I think the Epic uses better hardware
Well you may be right, but from my personal point of view..... their cameras' are the same
To add on to others comments about camera quality if your camera has a crappy white balance etc. it just doesn't matter. Megapixels only matter anyway if you intend to make large prints or do some serious editing both of which I doubt you would use an phone to take pictures for.
My point is sensor quality more important than snazzy numbers.
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Source: http://asia.cnet.com/htc-one-vs-iphone-5-camera-shootout-62220556.htm - Full images can be found on this site.
Notes: We'll test the camera further in a future review, which will be more conclusive since the software would have to be final by then.
These images from the HTC ONE look far better than the ones in the thread where it vs the lumia 920.
I think that the quality is close to iphone 5s photos BUT iphone 5 has twice information then One. Try to resize iphones 5 photos and compare them to HTC Ones...probably its not from retail unit but I expected more especially indoor images with low light enviroment...but its not bad result at all. Sony XZ isnt good enought for me so I will wait for samsung what to show us as photo shooting is very important to me and after SGS3 I had and sold they have to really show something
I think the photos from the One look mainly better than iPhone 5.
If you zoom to 100% you can see some lost detail on the outdoor shot. Other than that, the details are there. And who zooms in 100% anyway. Especially the last shot is impressive as the One X also has major problems with too much lighting. The photo from the One looks very good, given that there is so much light from the side.
I'm sorry but pic 2 looks like the red dot phenomena all over again. Damn, a lot of people had that problem when the One X launched.
OK last photo, but I still think at least 6Mpx they should leave. with 4Mpx forget about cropping and forget about zoom in with fine details...just look at two years old SGS2 photos, resize them to 4Mpx and you will see that there is not such a difference and furthermore I bet that SGS2 photos will be better...Im fan of HTC for this year as they prepared amazing phone but maybe they killed it at least for me with this camera
PS: last notice, photos of HTC One are so much oversharped (the flower) my samsung i8510 did so much better pictures with almost DLSR background blurness in macro shots and beautifull detailed shots...
I played with the htc one, I don't see much of a problem with the camera on the one. Even so I was having doubts after seeing some images but these images above have relaxed me again.
I don't get why everyones like OMG THE CAMERA IS GUNNA SUCK
No one uses a phone camera for professional photography, it's mostly point and shoot stuff.
HTC were right, most of the pictures people take just end up on Facebook/email etc and you hardly need fantastic quality for that.
The images in my opinion look very good though.
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I don't get why everyones like OMG THE CAMERA IS GUNNA SUCK
No one uses a phone camera for professional photography, it's mostly point and shoot stuff.
HTC were right, most of the pictures people take just end up on Facebook/email etc and you hardly need fantastic quality for that.
The images in my opinion look very good though.
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I agree undoubtedly
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Im not a professional photographer, but that doesnt mean I dont wanna maximum from my phone for 600Euro espacially when samsung know how to do good camera in 8mm thick phone...I dont have DSLR nor cheap compact camera. Thats why I wont from this deivce the max as I take only phone to holidays and trips...if they will managed better photo shots and samsung will fail I will go for One as it looks like amazing phone in these days...so tell me why they advertise how good is it if they dont want to people buy it for camera possibilities??? just think about it I dont need 808 quality photos but dont wanna spend 600Euros for worse photo results than 2 years old SGS2 you know
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Im not a professional photographer, but that doesnt mean I dont wanna maximum from my phone for 600Euro espacially when samsung know how to do good camera in 8mm thick phone...I dont have DSLR nor cheap compact camera. Thats why I wont from this deivce the max as I take only phone to holidays and trips...if they will managed better photo shots and samsung will fail I will go for One as it looks like amazing phone in these days...so tell me why they advertise how good is it if they dont want to people buy it for camera possibilities??? just think about it I dont need 808 quality photos but dont wanna spend 600Euros for worse photo results than 2 years old SGS2 you know
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Those pictures above though show it's just as good as the iphone 5 if not better?
So why are the photo results worse than a SGS2?
kultus said:
Im not a professional photographer, but that doesnt mean I dont wanna maximum from my phone for 600Euro espacially when samsung know how to do good camera in 8mm thick phone...I dont have DSLR nor cheap compact camera. Thats why I wont from this deivce the max as I take only phone to holidays and trips...if they will managed better photo shots and samsung will fail I will go for One as it looks like amazing phone in these days...so tell me why they advertise how good is it if they dont want to people buy it for camera possibilities??? just think about it I dont need 808 quality photos but dont wanna spend 600Euros for worse photo results than 2 years old SGS2 you know
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I have had GS1/2/3 & GN2 and while camera is good (not the greatest) outdoors and indoors in dark (except GS1), they were terrible where there was light in the background. Also video audio sucked on all of them aswell and again video qaulity was good but not the greatest.
HTC photos look very good!
The performance of HTC One in this post is far better than the others on net but the CNet reviewer only just used 3M mode in this review(not 4.1M) while ip5 is 8M! Not a far comparsion.
If I remember correctly, he uses 4M but he crops the images for webview (One uses 16:9 per default it seems, he wants pictures of the same aspect ratio).
WHAT??!! HTC One uses 4Mpx at 16:9? are you serious...so when you want standard 4:3 photo you will loose 1Mpx? thats nonsense if its true...standard usage for most people is to use 4:3 and if you want 16:9 phone will crop it automatically (8Mpx 4:3 -> 6Mpx 16:9)...
AW: HTC One vs iPhone 5 Camera Shootout
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WHAT??!! HTC One uses 4Mpx at 16:9? are you serious...so when you want standard 4:3 photo you will loose 1Mpx? thats nonsense if its true...standard usage for most people is to use 4:3 and if you want 16:9 phone will crop it automatically (8Mpx 4:3 -> 6Mpx 16:9)...
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Its just the standard setting probably. He cropped it manually.
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yes the 16x9 is cropped, 4x3 gives you full size but from what i can tell these pictures are already in 4x3
AW: HTC One vs iPhone 5 Camera Shootout
hamdir said:
yes the 16x9 is cropped, 4x3 gives you full size but from what i can tell these pictures are already in 4x3
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What he did:
Shoot at 16:9 (phone shoots in 4:3, crops it)
Crop it back to 4:3
A bit fail, but not as much as the SGS3 guy...
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Guys if I ever develop a whole 4mp image shot from HTC One what photo print size would it be if I print it?
Hey Guys!
What do you think about this HTC One vs Lumia 920 Imaging Comparison? I have used both HTC One & Lumia 920 but i must say i was a little disappointed to see the HTC One low-light performance. It doesn't perform how it was promised too. What was most disappointing was that it didn't even have "Light Assisted Focus" which made it difficult to take focused photographs in low light. What do you guys think about it? Did i miss anything? Did i overlook the "Light Assisted Focus" or am i right? Looking forward to your informative replies.
the Lumia 920 use settings similar to night mode on the One, so try night mode and more importantly try HDR which is the SGS4 night mode method but at much faster shutter
Regrading focus the "touch to capture" mode will solve it, when you touch your target, the camera will reach focus and take a shot
using HDR plus auto flash light, will "flash assist" the HDR capture and the results are incredible (similar to the method used in Lumia 925)
HDR (no flash, good shutter speed)
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I bought HTC One as a replacement to my Lumia 920 (and I still have it).
I have not made any proper comparison yet, however my immediate feeling is, that HTC One is a big downgrade in terms o camera performance, when it comes to IOS, picture quality and recorded sound quality. The only thing that HTC is superior in is (in my opinion) image sharpness/details, which are still lacking on the WIndows Phones.
Having said that, I treat Lumia as my idiotic experiment and I will probably never abandon Android again.
If I find a bit time I will do a picture comparison with both phones, side by side.
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I bought HTC One as a replacement to my Lumia 920 (and I still have it).
I have not made any proper comparison yet, however my immediate feeling is, that HTC One is a big downgrade in terms o camera performance, when it comes to IOS, picture quality and recorded sound quality. The only thing that HTC is superior in is (in my opinion) image sharpness/details, which are still lacking on the WIndows Phones.
Having said that, I treat Lumia as my idiotic experiment and I will probably never abandon Android again.
If I find a bit time I will do a picture comparison with both phones, side by side.
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Can you make zoes with a Lumia too?
to be honest I don't think the comparison is fair. The image quality of the htc one is simply awful. Nearly every other phone i had made better pictures (ok the nexus 4 was a bad one ^^). that said, i have to admit it IS very decent in low light and color reproduction. but while other phones produce clean and detail rich photos in normal daylight, my one struggles to keep up with.
the camera is really the only thing I absolutly dislike about this phone (and as a sony fan that is a huge compliment toward htc).
what bugs me the most is that 4MP in reality isn't that awful at all, still htc decides to treat the picture with way to much smoothing, eliminating effectively that few details it captured. Despite I honor my camera in my phones a lot, I have to admit I would still miss the One if I'd sell it. After all, it's still 1 little detail.
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to be honest I don't think the comparison is fair. The image quality of the htc one is simply awful. Nearly every other phone i had made better pictures (ok the nexus 4 was a bad one ^^). that said, i have to admit it IS very decent in low light and color reproduction. but while other phones produce clean and detail rich photos in normal daylight, my one struggles to keep up with.
the camera is really the only thing I absolutly dislike about this phone (and as a sony fan that is a huge compliment toward htc).
what bugs me the most is that 4MP in reality isn't that awful at all, still htc decides to treat the picture with way to much smoothing, eliminating effectively that few details it captured. Despite I honor my camera in my phones a lot, I have to admit I would still miss the One if I'd sell it. After all, it's still 1 little detail.
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i agree with you HTC One is a great phone except that awful camera i dont know why they didnt use Omnivision or Sony sensor rather go with ST microelectronics
cihanleanne said:
i agree with you HTC One is a great phone except that awful camera i dont know why they didnt use Omnivision or Sony sensor rather go with ST microelectronics
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ST Micro is mic
I give HTC props for trying to buck the trend and do something "new" but it does have it's weaknesses.
Instead of trying to be different by using a 4MP and try to debunk the megapixel craze, they should have made a 8MP Ultrapixel camera and just market it as the new generation of cameras, and then appease all crowds.
I Am Marino said:
I give HTC props for trying to buck the trend and do something "new" but it does have it's weaknesses.
Instead of trying to be different by using a 4MP and try to debunk the megapixel craze, they should have made a 8MP Ultrapixel camera and just market it as the new generation of cameras, and then appease all crowds.
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I don't think you understand what "Ultrapixel" is.
Itaintrite said:
I don't think you understand what "Ultrapixel" is.
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I'm sure I don't.
I have absolutely zero understanding of camera sensors, etc.
I'm generally a proponent of people feeling way too entitled to having some kind of super digital camera in their phone.
But if an OEM is going to try, go big or try again.
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I'm sure I don't.
I have absolutely zero understanding of camera sensors, etc.
I'm generally a proponent of people feeling way too entitled to having some kind of super digital camera in their phone.
But if an OEM is going to try, go big or try again.
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Funnily enough, HTC did go big with "Ultrapixel".
It's not bad in daytime, it's just not great. Only good/meh. It blows away even the L920 in night time though.
Overall I'd like to see HTC take on the L1020 with a huge sensor. 1/1.5 with 14.5MP would destroy the L1020 for low light, although it would have less sharpness (need at least 20MP to eliminate bayer artifacting through oversampling).
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ST Micro is mic
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No its not when i fix tear the Htc one it was ST Microelectronics
Se some posters suggesting an 8mp ultra pixel camera in future htc units. But is that even possible without destroying the slim design? If you want to build a sensor with the larger ultra pixels and pack twice number of pixels, the sensor must become much larger. And then you probably must move the lense further away from the sensor to cover it with light (the image). Hence you need to build a thicker device.
Maybe this is why Nokias are on the hefty side.
But hey, this is just a humble theory based on my limited knowledge of sensors and optics.
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I purchased a moto-x yesterday out of contract to give it a "road test" and If I liked it I would return it and order 32gb as my Iphone 5 replacement. I had to make a trip to NYC today. My train ride into Penn station is typically 1 hr 10 minutes and today I waited another 10 at the platform. I started out at 100% and started streaming Spotify over LTE and sat on reddit and google chrome for most of the way along with a few games of solitaire and burnt it down to 65%. I fared about the same with my Iphone 5 while making the same run pre-IOS7 however expect worse performance after the update. I was in battery park for the most of the day and lost another ~10% in the subway roaming/intermittent streaming. By the time I got on the train 7 hours later I was at 35%, I used the navigation for about 10 minutes to get some food (awesome btw).
Things I like about the phone.
The screen size is nicer than the Iphone 5 however may not be "as bright" I assume this has to do with the OLED screen.
The Active notifications has to be my favorite feature. It really is quite nice and I dread going back to my Iphone 5 without it.
The active feature while driving is nice however I haven't given it the full test yet.
Google Hangouts is amazing, it really is and I am going to force my girlfriend to use it on her iphone.
Android feels like a smart phone that wants to "help you". I'm sure that doesn't make sense. It just has some mystical google type power IMO.
Things I don't like.
I was hoping battery life would be a little better based on reviews, however I find it good enough.
The camera however this is an AT&T phone without the latest update. The camera will make or break this phone for me as I have a room full of fishing pictures, most are really good and taken with smartphone camera's (Iphone's.)
Also I tried to scan a barcode and it was just NOT happening while on the train, something the iphone did no problem (using myfitnesspal)
It also doesn't charge as fast as my iphone, however that may be because of the larger battery?
Also, when I return this phone this weekend, is there A way I can have everything backed up, so when I get my new phone I won't have to set everything up again and download all these apps over?
Here is the pic comparison, done side by side. http://imgur.com/a/tywmw
I'm actually having trouble making my picture look as bad off as you did and I am not able to reproduce it.
The color in my photos is spectacular, way better than my HTC One. I just took this of my salt water fish tank and it's way more than close... It's impeccably accurate.
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Doing photo comparisons at this point is a waste of time. Att is going to have the update out very soon so why bother. The camera is great after the fix.
Compare then.
To answer your question you have the option to back up ur apps through your Google account. They redownload as soon as you log in on the next phone
osiris355 said:
Doing photo comparisons at this point is a waste of time. Att is going to have the update out very soon so why bother. The camera is great after the fix.
Compare then.
To answer your question you have the option to back up ur apps through your Google account. They redownload as soon as you log in on the next phone
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yesterday... i have just flash the tmo firmware on my unlock bootloader rogers version... and update ! my wife now want the white moto x ! pictures quality is just like the day and night... equal or better to the iphone 5... equal to the sg4 ...
... mmm i have say the tmobile firmware is excellent ... no brand no bloat ( retail en us on the about ) ...
Would you say the battery life is pretty similar for both phones? also how much thicker is the moto x?
mhsbrian said:
I'm actually having trouble making my picture look as bad off as you did and I am not able to reproduce it.
The color in my photos is spectacular, way better than my HTC One. I just took this of my salt water fish tank and it's way more than close... It's impeccably accurate.
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Don't think i'm dissing the phone, I like it more than the iphone5
I'm just waiting for the update.
People tend to like the over saturated photos that the iPhone and Samsung produces... The Moto X creates pictures closer to real life colors.
Its the same with DSLR's, Canon processes photos with colors close to real life but the Nikon gives it more saturation - newcomers tend to go Nikon for this reason.
I prefer the real life colors, and I'll add saturation if needed later on.
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People tend to like the over saturated photos that the iPhone and Samsung produces... The Moto X creates pictures closer to real life colors.
Its the same with DSLR's, Canon processes photos with colors close to real life but the Nokia gives it more saturation - newcomers tend to go Nokia for this reason.
I prefer the real life colors, and I'll add saturation if needed later on.
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Agree 100 percent, iPhone photos always bleed colors and it's especially seen in very detailed things.
In terms of Nikon and canon, I shoot with a Canon and only would buy an older Nokia if I was to but one myself.
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Agree 100 percent, iPhone photos always bleed colors and it's especially seen in very detailed things.
In terms of Nokia and canon, I shoot with a Canon and only would buy an older Nokia if I was to but one myself.
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-_- Nokia? I think you mean Nikon.
mentose457 said:
-_- Nokia? I think you mean Nikon.
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SwiftKey filled it in for me lol
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rman18 said:
People tend to like the over saturated photos that the iPhone and Samsung produces... The Moto X creates pictures closer to real life colors.
Its the same with DSLR's, Canon processes photos with colors close to real life but the Nokia gives it more saturation - newcomers tend to go Nokia for this reason.
I prefer the real life colors, and I'll add saturation if needed later on.
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Again I think you mean NIKON. I never experienced excessive saturation on any of Nikon DSLRs. I never used retard mode or full retard mode on them though. If you are using those modes on your Canon, well, congratulations.
mentose457 said:
Again I think you mean NIKON. I never experienced excessive saturation on any of Nikon DSLRs. I never used retard mode or full retard mode on them though. If you are using those modes on your Canon, well, congratulations.
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NIKON, as you say.. Makes great cameras I don't see what your point here is besides starting a war that's been waged since the dawn of personal photography.
On another note, my main camera is a pentax k-5, that doesn't mean it shoots way better photos. But it's weather resistant and takes the best night pictures of any camera I've ever owned.
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NIKON, as you say.. Makes great cameras I don't see what your point here is besides starting a war that's been waged since the dawn of personal photography.
On another note, my main camera is a pentax k-5, that doesn't mean it shoots way better photos. But it's weather resistant and takes the best night pictures of any camera I've ever owned.
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Just pointing out that any camera that has manual control can be adjusted to take life like colors. IMO comparing auto modes on manual cameras is stupid.
My boss shoots a k-5, its an attractive camera. I like that the image stabilization is in the camera not the lens.
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Just pointing out that any camera that has manual control can be adjusted to take life like colors. IMO comparing auto modes on manual cameras is stupid.
My boss shoots a k-5, its an attractive camera. I like that the image stabilization is in the camera not the lens.
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Yeah, it's a fantastic camera... The biggest turn on for me was the Iso noise is tremendously low even at very high Iso ranges.
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This is the OnePlus One user photo and camera discussion thread
Camera features:
Image sensor: Sony BSI Exmor IMX214 CMOS, 1/3.06" sensor size
Lens: F2.0, 6-element auto-focus system
Maximum photo resolution: 4160x3120, 13 megapixels
Front facing camera: 5 megapixels w/80º wide angle
Maximum video resolution: 3840x2160 = 4k at 30FPS, 1920x1080 at 60FPS, 1280x720p at 120FPS
Features: HDR, panorama, image stabilization, face detection, tap to focus, geo-tagging, face-detection
The official OnePlus One camera samples
For more info, full size and EXIF, please visit the OnePlus website here: http://oneplus.net/one#features
If this photos are true i can only say " Its Amazing great!! "
Cheers
xenix96 said:
If this photos are true i can only say " Its Amazing great!! "
Cheers
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The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.
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The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.
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As soon as the first users here own a device, this thread will be flooded with shots, I'm sure...
Not my picture but this was my favourite from some of the ones I saw from preproduction models.
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I certainly hope that with real world conditions it can deliver quality like shown above.
The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.
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The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.
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Are you going to be picking up this device? I don't care much for cameras but this caught my eye and since you're on here I'm even more excited about the camera.
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FuMMoD said:
Are you going to be picking up this device? I don't care much for cameras but this caught my eye and since you're on here I'm even more excited about the camera.
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Hello Sir !
Nice to see you here too..I'm trying to get this device from Europe somehow.. Seems too good to be true! What interests me is the IMX214 sensor lol..I really need that system dump too!
Jishnu Sur™ said:
Hello Sir !
Nice to see you here too..I'm trying to get this device from Europe somehow.. Seems too good to be true! What interests me is the IMX214 sensor lol..I really need that system dump too!
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You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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Jishnu Sur™ said:
The best part is the 2 sensors that i have noticed that perform beautifully are the IMX179 and IMX214. Obvious 214 will be even better for sure.. Really hope they launch the phone around the different parts of the world soon.
Low light capabilities are incredible, if you search you will understand that how its better than A Nikon D3100 in low light.
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A good Sony IMX sensor with a proper lens and image signal processor can bring wonderful images, see iPhone 5S. Which is why I'm puzzled to this day how come Sony's own Xperia Z, Z1 and even some Z2 shots look so over-processed, showing some lens inconsistencies and some SW errors too. Both the Oppo Find 7 and the OnePlus One launch with the new IMX214, and I'm curious how will they fare compared to other Exmors, the Lumias and ISOCELL. So far it is promising.
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You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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Cool ! I'll start arranging the money then! hahahaha .. Yes that would be awesome. This thing is surely worth the price they are asking.
Off topic : Thanks are over, cant press Sorry! :crying:
BoneXDA said:
A good Sony IMX sensor with a proper lens and image signal processor can bring wonderful images, see iPhone 5S. Which is why I'm puzzled to this day how come Sony's own Xperia Z, Z1 and even some Z2 shots look so over-processed, showing some lens inconsistencies and some SW errors too. Both the Oppo Find 7 and the OnePlus One launch with the new IMX214, and I'm curious how will they fare compared to other Exmors, the Lumias and ISOCELL. So far it is promising.
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I agree with you on the Sony Devices part. I have seen that actually. Sony likes to complicate stuff, i really don't know why. Where they can have a easy way to fi thing, they go the other way. Trust me they have 3-4 different apps for the camera. You tell me who in 2014 does that?! lol .. And I read an article, the ISOCELL vs the IMX179 comparison. (Here). The IMX was better
I really need to have a look at the Lumia's though, they have almost DSLR type quality..
The S5 camera is much, MUCH better than the Nexus 5 to be frank. But the IMX214 is a new generation Sony sensor.
aren't you guys a bit scared about the camera app?
i've tried few phones with cyanogen camera app and they were all a lot worst than the original rom camera app (samsung devices especially)
at least this time they are working on their hardware so i really hope it'll be a lot better
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aren't you guys a bit scared about the camera app?
i've tried few phones with cyanogen camera app and they were all a lot worst than the original rom camera app (samsung devices especially)
at least this time they are working on their hardware so i really hope it'll be a lot better
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their camera on this phone is completely new and we have seen the pictures right? i dont think it will suck
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The IMX214 is a very capable sensor, and 1+'s ISP (Qualcomm?) looks quality too. Of course much will depend on speed, reliability and low light, I'll be looking to find more shots.
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if picture #3 is indeed the correct photo here low light looks amazing
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/contest-guess-the-oneplus-one-photo.368/
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FuMMoD said:
You can be sure to get one from me if I get picked with the first batch of invites. If I have to smash my Nexus 5 then I'll do it to get a system dump for the community lol.
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if you do that the community may have to buy you another nexus to have you keep developing for it :crying: "for the community"
jeremykersh said:
if picture #3 is indeed the correct photo here low light looks amazing
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Remember that these pictures are taken directly from OP's press page—they might have been doctored/photoshopped. On the other hand, I'd be amazed if the camera actually was this good.
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Remember that these pictures are taken directly from OP's press page—they might have been doctored/photoshopped. On the other hand, I'd be amazed if the camera actually was this good.
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Depending on scene and light conditions, today's smartphones can take impressive photos, see some form my S5 review. As far as dynamic range and per pixel sharpness, 1+1 fits right in among the best of Android photography based on what I've seen so far.
Some of these look really good.
She's a cutie too.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-camera-samples-from-the-OnePlus-One-appear_id55043#32-
She is not that bad