can someone please explain to me whats the Hype with the Htc Thunderbolt? isnt it basically a Evo with a bump in Ram and Verizon suppose Lte Network? More or less what we have had with the evo for a while now.?
Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.
It's hyped because verizon is finally getting something to compete with us
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8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
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8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
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I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.
Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt
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I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.
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Yeah it is but is the same evo just redesign more like evo 1.5
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Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt
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Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.
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Anyone who truly believes this, is an ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.
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Anyone who truly believes this, is a ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.
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An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.
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An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.
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Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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Well that only matters if you care about sense, but it's been suggested [and is completely realistic] that the Evo/Evo Shift will be getting the new sense.
As far as the core it's pretty much the same exact one as in the Evo Shift except instead of clocked at 800 mhz it's clocked at 1GHZ.
So, at best, it's an extremely minor spec bump from the Evo Shift.
That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Um... why couldn't an 800mhz core get it too??
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That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Well the extra MHz doesn't really give u update as Google said it they never put how much you CPU has to be to run gingerbread 800GHz should be more then enough , it all depends on HTC and Sprint
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People seem to be in denial that the Evo isnt the best phone on the market anymore. And honestly the LTE alone was enough to make me switch. If you want to see the huge differences, look at the benchmark comparisons on youtube between the thunderbolt and the evo. It's not even remotely close.
Thunderbolt has a fatter kickstand and they put a larger speaker behind the kickstand. Pretty neat.
The HTC Thunderbolt (ADR6400 codename "Scorpion or Mecha") will be the first 4G LTE smartphone on Verizon Wireless. It is a CDMA variant of the HTC Desire HD. It was first announced at CES on January 6, 2011. This phone is to be considered the flagship phone for Verizon, going head to head with the HTC EVO.
In addition to 4G service, the Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
You can run gingerbread on your phone clocked down to 250 MHz. Animations will be choppy but it'll run just fine. So all this B.S. about mhz is b.s.
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Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
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orly?
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To be fair, simultaneous voice and data over 3G will be possible with Sprint as well. Verizon just happened to drop a phone that will use it first. The chipset wasn't ready when EVO was in production.Inspire 4G and HTC Thunderbolt is of the same cloth, but a minor spec to the EVO Shift, which is a carbon copy of the G2? That's just inviting the flames. Verizon's answer to the EVO was the Droid X, not the TB. People don't understand how long the EVO was being worked on by HTC and Sprint. It was a true flagship. HTC Pyramid is a true flagship, so keep your eyes on it at CTIA.
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Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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You mean that made up patched up coverage map of roaming agreements?
my 3g and 4g speeds are crazy, i normally get between 800k-1.1mbps on 3G and like 7 or 8mbps on 4G. the last major 3G speedtest done rated At&t 1st over 3G (where its available), and Sprint came in at 2nd place. ive NEVER had any signal issues with sprint. And i travel frequently. the truth of the matter is the Sprint vs Verizon battle is never ending, but at the end of the day, it only matters if it works where YOU need it to work at.
Now, I will say that we all know about sprints recent 3G data speed troubles, but im sure they will have it fixed soon. ****ty, but true.
As far as the thunderbolt goes, Im not envious of it at all. The new Snapdragon core + more ram is better, but other than the its just the Evo, with a LTE radio in it. Better than the Evo? yes. Enough to make me switch? No chance
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As of 2 days ago i have never been so sure about wanting a new phone as i was the Droid X. Now there are rumors all over the internet that Verizon will launch its 4G network (aka LTE) on November 15th and have a couple of 4G devices on sale on black Friday. An on top of that the rumors are that they will sell the iphone in January on the 4G network. (not that ill choose the iphone over the Droid X).
I am just wondering, am I jumping the gun here with the Droid X? I am assuming whatever phone with launch with 4G is going to have to be kickass phones. I am also assuming that the Droid X will not be 4G compatible. I hate to pass up this beast and then its just rumors but for some reason i think there is some truth in these ones. Thoughts please
I would venture to guess that the Droid X will be 4G compatible...maybe?
LTE doesn't make that much of a difference to me. Take a look at 4G -- it just got switched on in a few more cities, bringing the number up to a paltry dozen or so (I think? Not quite sure). LTE might also be slow to roll out. Besides, it's a new technology, and it might eat battery like on the EVO.
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As of 2 days ago i have never been so sure about wanting a new phone as i was the Droid X. Now there are rumors all over the internet that Verizon will launch its 4G network (aka LTE) on November 15th and have a couple of 4G devices on sale on black Friday. An on top of that the rumors are that they will sell the iphone in January on the 4G network. (not that ill choose the iphone over the Droid X).
I am just wondering, am I jumping the gun here with the Droid X? I am assuming whatever phone with launch with 4G is going to have to be kickass phones. I am also assuming that the Droid X will not be 4G compatible. I hate to pass up this beast and then its just rumors but for some reason i think there is some truth in these ones. Thoughts please
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I am def rethinking... I don't know why though.... I mean 3g is pretty quick here for anything I would ever do ON MY PHONE... it's not like I am ripping torrents through this connection or something.....
I will probably pull the trigger and be happy as ever...
The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.
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The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.
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Sprint has a surcharge for 4g?? What the....
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Sprint has a surcharge for 4g?? What the....
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$10 extra if you want 4G
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$10 extra if you want 4G
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Dang... I think I am just gonna get the X... I would bet big red charges then if others already are... Plus it will be a while I think before both the phone and coverage get to me...
Engadget review is up!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/01/motorola-droid-x-review/
Many sources at verizon claim 4g will launch in november with only mobile broadband devices (ie mifi laptop 4g) but devices/phones wont launch until q1 or q2 2010
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Many sources at verizon claim 4g will launch in november with only mobile broadband devices (ie mifi laptop 4g) but devices/phones wont launch until q1 or q2 2010
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Do you mean q1 q2 2011?
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Do you mean q1 q2 2011?
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Yes. From what I have heard around the watercooler, early 2011 for consumer devices..
Not to metion unless you are in one of those 25-30 markets you will not have it right away. And I can safely say I am currently not.
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The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.
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Well from what i read Verizon will not charge the extra $10 for 4G but will however used tiered data plans for its 4G phones like AT&T is doing. SO goodbye unlimited data plans. Doesnt make sense, the second they come out with the powerful devices that are basically mini laptops, hotspots and GPS in , they put a cap on the data for these data hundry devices. Just clearly shows again how money hungry they are. Like $30 a month from millions of customers is not enough.
That said, after thinking it through i will also get the doid X. 6 months is a long time to wait to see if rumors pan out. Plus this puppy is running on 1Ghz and will be plenty fast. I even saw is video today where i played video at 60fps. Iphone 4 can only do 30. The video was so so smooth.
I cant wait for July 15th!!!!
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I even saw is video today where i played video at 60fps. Iphone 4 can only do 30. The video was so so smooth.
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Where'd you hear that one from?
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Where'd you hear that one from?
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i saw it in a youtube video where i guy did all these test on the droid's speed. I tried to insert the link but it gives me a error. Just go to youtube and type in droid x benchmark test. Should be a clip where he compaires the droid x, evo and nexus i think
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Well from what i read Verizon will not charge the extra $10 for 4G but will however used tiered data plans for its 4G phones like AT&T is doing. SO goodbye unlimited data plans.
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Want to bet 4G phones wind up requiring the highest tier? Effectively charging for 4G. I just don't see VzW (and every other carrier) not taking advantage of early adopters.
No. Lets say it comes out in 6 months in "select areas". I can upgrade my phone one year from July 15th and more than likely LTE won't be in my area until mid to late 2011 or even 2012. Not worried one bit.
I can't see the lte footprint being useable for a couple years anyways. Dig the X, but think I'll b sticking with my Droid for a while.
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My omnia just broke last week (won't charge any batteries, i think the temp sensor is fried)
So I don't really have a choice but to upgrade to the X, it's the only phone i can do early because otherwise i have to wait till august. And this vx6700 is not very nice to me.
That being said i'm a little upset with the hdmi issue, that was one of my main reasons.
but just to talk about 4g i really doubt it will be much of a battery hog. because sprint basically is just reselling a wimax service (which i do get in my area around chicago) and it is fast but it's not worth using unless i'm on a laptop (because of the battery drain) and soon the unlimited will probably go away like the rest.
And if i'm not mistaken the sprint 4g (wimax) runs at about 2.5ghz? or so. Where I think verizion will incorporate this in there 4g.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iMbsPSv2vatAVvbz_8n0xU3Mfvnw
While 700mhz doesn't provide much bandwidth, My guess there going to use that in tandem with eh EVDO (i think 900mhz ish?) that they currently have, kind of like an A/G router will use both the freq to increase throughput.
Call me stupid but i think having another antenna at a lower freq like that will use up less power then the sprint one at 2.5ghz, but i could be wrong.
I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!
Slide out keyboard over front facing camera anyday... g2
Its personal preference. Both have advantages over the other. The MyTouch4G has a front facing camera, 256MB more ram and is slimmer. The G2 has a full physical keyboard, more solid design, better dev support.
the mytouch series is a joke. they're for people who dont really know what android is and its capabilities.
g2. any day.
or if its your cup of tea, wait for the nexus s.
Nexus S. Buying a mt4g is a joke right now.
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I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
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Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.
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Well when I think about it:
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Nexus S No No No No
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Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Well it may not be real "4G" but I get 4G like speeds
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Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics. I do agree that its lame to exclude some of the things excluded on the Nexus S, including 4G.
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G2 if you type a lot and want almost stock Froyo
Mytouch4G if you want a front facing camera and don't mind TMobile's HTC sense
But then again this is XDA, you can root and get whatever lovely ROM a developer has cooked up on your phone. So it just comes down to hardware if you want to root it.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics.
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Not to mention at current speeds (whatever you want to call them) it's very easy to eat through your entire monthly bandwidth cap in an afternoon. Given this, wtf is the point of more speed? I'd take a higher cap over more speed any day of the week at this point.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G.
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EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !
I got the G2 and my wife picked the white MyTouch 4G. Personally, I think the G2 is better (obviously). It has a hardware keyboard, better dev support, stock Android (with a *really* easy HTC Sense port, since the Desire Z is the same hardware).
Preferences aside, the MyTouch line is really.....plasticky. When I use her phone, the plastic squeaks like crazy - that annoys me like no other, especially on such a 'high-end' phone.
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EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !
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Thank you. Peoples need to understand this. 4G by ITU-R standards is only available through networks with IMT-Advanced, and trust me....NO network has that capabilities yet......
With that aside,I'd go with the G2!! More industrial feel, not plasticky like samsung and mytouch 4g. Even the nexus S won't feel as good as the G2, even with the better hardware.
I wish Google would have stayed with HTC for the second Nexus.
keyboard or NO keyboard, that is the question..
I went with the Desire Z for a few reasons:
Great Developer Support
GREAT Build Quality - I HATE phones that are made of any plastic/cheap material
QWERTY Keyboard - I send upwards of 100 Messages a day between SMS and Email
New Generation Processor - The 800mhz was a disappointment to me when I read the specs, but after reading of its over-clocking capabilities and having run mine at 1.4ghz for the past few weeks, this is a huge advantage of the G2/Desire Z.
This is for those who are eligible for an upgrade or otherwise changing in the next few months. Are you -
1. going to stay with Sprint?
2. moving to a different carrier because Sprint is not getting the phone you want?
3. What's your next phone?
I like the Nexus S but its not dual core. I've seen the comparisons, its better than the Evo, but not as good as the Galaxy S 2 which is the one to beat. Wish it was on Sprint. AT&T/TMob are out of the question, it has to be Sprint/Verizon for me.
Why not T-Mobile? Coverage isn't good in tour area?
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This is for those who are eligible for an upgrade or otherwise changing in the next few months. Are you -
1. going to stay with Sprint?
2. moving to a different carrier because Sprint is not getting the phone you want?
3. What's your next phone?
I like the Nexus S but its not dual core. I've seen the comparisons, its better than the Evo, but not as good as the Galaxy S 2 which is the one to beat. Wish it was on Sprint. AT&T/TMob are out of the question, it has to be Sprint/Verizon for me.
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What's wrong with the Evo 3D?
It'll be the most powerful phone out at release...
No idea, going to see what all of the other carriers have. Just not that pumped about the Evo 3D. I wish the Nexus S had better specs as well.
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No idea, going to see what all of the other carriers have. Just not that pumped about the Evo 3D. I wish the Nexus S had better specs as well.
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What's wrong with the Evo 3d?
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Why not T-Mobile? Coverage isn't good in tour area?
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Exactly.
AT&T gets no signal at all in my apt (so same for TMobile)
Sprint gets 1-2 bars
Verizon is 5.
Evo 3d and Galaxy S2 are pretty comparable, both are 1.2ghz dual core, who knows which phone has the better battery life.
I'll take Sense over TouchWiz allways, but at the end of the day I'll end up running MIUI anyway.
Galaxy has a better screen, is a lot slimmer and lighter, and has 16/32 internal vs 1/4 on the Evo - that makes a big difference.
Since I don't want or need a gimmick like 3d, I'd rather have the Galaxy, all other things being equal.
i dunno right now.
id like to get a evo 3d and the view tablet but im not going to until they get there network issues fixed. then the lose of the 4info and espn txt services have me really questioning if the time has finally come to change carriers.
I'm moving to Verizon because of complicated reasons. What phone should I get? I freaking love my evo and I have no clue what to get.
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Get a "full featured" flip phone so you dont have to worry about going over your limited data plan.
Thunderbolt seems like the obvious choice. It is the HTC flagship phone for Verizon. It is the Evo on steroids I believe
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Get a "full featured" flip phone so you dont have to worry about going over your limited data plan.
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Haha, I'll just get a env3. Oh yeah , look at me now 0.0
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I'd go incredible s.
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Thunderbolt.
Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.
The Thunderbolt really is an Evo on steroids, as lehalter said, and I think it's Verizon's best phone right now. The Droid Charge (Samsung) is nice too, but especially if you like Sense, Thunderbolt is the way to go. My dad just got it after having the original Droid, and he's really happy with it.
I'd have a hard time buying anything that's not LTE compatible on VZW right now, unless you live in the middle of nowhere and aren't likely to see LTE in the next 2 years. VZW's LTE network is everything we wish Sprint's 4G network was (well, except for cheap and soon, unlimited). That would knock the Incredible 2 and Droid X2 off my list, personally.
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If he has Verizon now, he can get true unlimited data.
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If he has Verizon now, he can get true unlimited data.
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Maybe unlimited but throttled at the same time.
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Maybe unlimited but throttled at the same time.
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I don't think it's conclusively been shown that Verizon is throttling LTE if you go over a certain cap. I honestly don't know the details, but I think it's safe to say that one would be better off getting on VZW now before the "unlimited" plan really does go away.
In any event, the OP said he needs to move to VZW and probably doesn't need us to try to talk him out of it. I think the question is just which VZW phone is going to be best for an Evo lover, and I think the Thunderbolt is a pretty clear choice.
I'd get the Droid charge.
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I don't think it's conclusively been shown that Verizon is throttling LTE if you go over a certain cap. I honestly don't know the details, but I think it's safe to say that one would be better off getting on VZW now before the "unlimited" plan really does go away.
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They have openly admitted they throttle.
They've said its only the "top 5%"
(Whatever thats supposed to mean)
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i just left verizon.. data throttling was pi$$ing me off, i use about 10 to 13 gigs a month and that was without tethering...
on the note of throttleing.. big v woiuld actually shut off my 3g connection and id be stuck with 1x for the rest of the day... also they are not friendly to tetherin.... DO NOT MAKE THIS INTO A TETHERING FIGHT
back to the original topic...
i personally would go with the thunderbolt... even though it is "old tech" just to lock in the 4g unlimited now.
before anyone starts in... verizon's ceo has already announced that tiered data will start this summer... which so happens to be right before the dual cores hit...., and their dual core lte phones just so happened to have been "delayed" for "further testing".....whatever .......
Again i would stick with thunderbolt... DO NOT GO TO MOTO... moto has awesome phones and i hate to say it but personally any moto phone is 10 times better in hardware and some software than anyone else right now... however they all have encrypted bootloaders..
this means that yes you can have root access, however what this means is that ther are NO TRULY CUSTOM ROMS... think cyanogenmod and asop... also NO kernels, and no truly great upgrades...
dx is much better that evo .. however it is ristricted due to the encrypted bootloader... and no the bootloader will not be broken ....
plain and simple switch now to make sure you get unlimited 4g, or wait and take a chance, also again i would rec thunderbolt do to at least htc at this time is listening to its customers....
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Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.
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First off... If he never wants to mod anything on his phone then yes, he should get something made by Motorola. Second... All he has to do is shut off the extra radio to save power. You do know that you are on the Evo section of the forum right? Most people on here have their WiMax radios turned off because they don't get WiMax in their area. The X2 only scores about 500-600 higher than the Thunderbolt on quadrant... and it has an entire extra core. Motorola can do better than that.
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i just left verizon.. data throttling was pi$$ing me off, i use about 10 to 13 gigs a month and that was without tethering...
on the note of throttleing.. big v woiuld actually shut off my 3g connection and id be stuck with 1x for the rest of the day... also they are not friendly to tetherin.... DO NOT MAKE THIS INTO A TETHERING FIGHT
back to the original topic...
i personally would go with the thunderbolt... even though it is "old tech" just to lock in the 4g unlimited now.
before anyone starts in... verizon's ceo has already announced that tiered data will start this summer... which so happens to be right before the dual cores hit...., and their dual core lte phones just so happened to have been "delayed" for "further testing".....whatever .......
Again i would stick with thunderbolt... DO NOT GO TO MOTO... moto has awesome phones and i hate to say it but personally any moto phone is 10 times better in hardware and some software than anyone else right now... however they all have encrypted bootloaders..
this means that yes you can have root access, however what this means is that ther are NO TRULY CUSTOM ROMS... think cyanogenmod and asop... also NO kernels, and no truly great upgrades...
dx is much better that evo .. however it is ristricted due to the encrypted bootloader... and no the bootloader will not be broken ....
plain and simple switch now to make sure you get unlimited 4g, or wait and take a chance, also again i would rec thunderbolt do to at least htc at this time is listening to its customers....
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So verizon would cut down your unlimited usage? WTF
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LexLuger82 said:
So verizon would cut down your unlimited usage? WTF
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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...f-users-and-optimize-content-for-all-2011023/
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Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.
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yea the battery normally sucks but i rooted my buddies and tweaked it a bit he is now getting 8 - 9 hours ( LoL) with moderate usage
he was getting 5 - 6
depends where you live. if you are in a 4g area, get a Droid Charge... the screen alone will win you over and it gets better battery life than the thunderbolt.
If no 4g, get the incredible 2.
Be warned however, Verizon is having lots of issues with their 4g network and/or 4g handsets.
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depends where you live. if you are in a 4g area, get a Droid Charge... the screen alone will win you over and it gets better battery life than the thunderbolt.
If no 4g, get the incredible 2.
Be warned however, Verizon is having lots of issues with their 4g network and/or 4g handsets.
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4G is in its infancy. No one has all the bugs worked out of there 4G . Give it a couple more years and it will be like 3G
hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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Quite obviously, asking in an Evo 4G forum won't get you biased answers. Just saying.
Yeah, I'd hope you'd be asking the same question in the Inspire 4G forums as we, over here, can 'mostly' speak for what we know. The Evo has great dev support / following and I can't be bothered to look (not that it would even be representative of the Inspire support) if it's even similar.
I would first look at providers / carriers. AT&T kind of sucks ... then again, as some will tell you, Sprint doesn't have the greatest coverage in certain areas. I'd first look past the phone options, and on to coverage. I love Sprint, not only because I get good coverage here, but also due to the unlimited data. But that may not be the case for you. Overall, the Inspire may be a better device but I can't be bothered to look. If you are serious about joining Sprint, maybe you'd consider the EVO 3D? Entirely a better phone, yet still waiting on root. Chances are, unless you should get lucky, you'd end up with an un-rootable Evo. In time, though ....
I wouldn't necessarily look, first, to the phones. The Evo is a dated device, no denying that, but still solid. So before you lock yourself in anywhere ...
don't worry about the phones. focus on the service.
Sprint has unlimited 4g data ATT don't
ATT has faster 4g
Sprint is cheaper.
ATT may have better coverage in your area..... maybe it doesn't make a difference. I live i philly. I never have a problem with coverage, even 4g unless I'm undeground which noone has coverage.
I suggest you start with sprint and if you aren't happy with the service return your phone with in 30 days get your money back and go to ATT.
But signing a two year contract you really should get a phone that will be decent in two years. You ain't going to want a evo 4g in two years. Evo 3d on the other hand will blow any HTC on any carrier out of the water right now
Why are these your only two options?
Neither are great choices as of right now imo...
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jessejames111981 said:
don't worry about the phones. focus on the service.
Sprint has unlimited 4g data ATT don't
ATT has faster 4g
Sprint is cheaper.
ATT may have better coverage in your area..... maybe it doesn't make a difference. I live i philly. I never have a problem with coverage, even 4g unless I'm undeground which noone has coverage.
I suggest you start with sprint and if you aren't happy with the service return your phone with in 30 days get your money back and go to ATT.
But signing a two year contract you really should get a phone that will be decent in two years. You ain't going to want a evo 4g in two years. Evo 3d on the other hand will blow any HTC on any carrier out of the water right now
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Att doesn't even have real 4g. Sprints 4g is faster
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it all depends if you wanted to root right away.. The Evo 4g shipped from Sprint is now only shipped with the OTA 2.3.3 which is unrootable atm. Hopefully soon as there seems to be alot of progression going on.
The Inspire 4g I dont know much about because I've always wanted an Evo when I started with an Android Phone.. LG Optimus S was my 1st android and now the Evo which is making me mad because I cant root yet.. thanks to HTC locking the bootloader
xlk said:
hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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1. My evo got 26 hours of battery life today, before I finally charged it.
2. The sense 3.0 camera takes some absolutely beautiful pictures. I don't really have a good way to rate that, lol
3. Yes
4. Yes
I love my evo. There is a huge and great development community behind it. Which is a huge plus when your looking to root, there's also alot of accesories etc.
Sprint has true 4g that is very easy to turn on off.
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xlk said:
hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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1. inspire has a slightly better batt life but only by minutes.
2. camera is about the same
3. yes u can use the evo's ffc for video chat i have used skype,qik and gtalk
4. once or twice a week.
Also another thing to note is the inspire does have sense 2.1 stock and the evo does not. But with a custom rom u can get sense 2.1 or 3.0 on the evo.
ONE HUGE PROBLEM with the inspire is their is a bug where the newest firmware was supposed to unlock non market installs but on some phones the option is still locked. HTC and att do not have a date on when this will be fixed. So what this means is if u get a inspire with this bug u will not be able to install apps from the sd card or the amazon market, U will only be able to install apps thru the android market. This to me makes the choice pretty clear evo all the way
Just get the evo 3D
I would agree with the EVO 3d statement and the plan suggestions. Right now Sprint is the only carrier offering unlimited data plans. Which is pretty huge considering how many things are going cloud based now. Music Beta, Amazon, Spotify, Netflix, Google Movies, etc.. This is more important than ever now.
However, if you never see yourself using these services its really a moot point.
Of course, If you do go with sprint, I'd suggest getting the 3d over the evo if you can spare the extra hundo. Its a way more powerful phone.
To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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to cq and the rest of you, i appreciate your input.. but lets stay on topic.. which is the questions that i need answered. thanks.
xlk said:
to cq and the rest of you, i appreciate your input.. but lets stay on topic.. which is the questions that i need answered. thanks.
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people are trying to that the phones are similar enough where you should focus on the carriers.
yes the front camera can be used for video chat. I personally don't see the big deal behind it but if thats your cup of tea then ok. Judge camera quality for yourself by asking to see pictures taken from each phone.
But really all the differences are slight enough where service and price are the biggest noticable differences.
Zac95 said:
1. My evo got 26 hours of battery life today, before I finally charged it.
2. The sense 3.0 camera takes some absolutely beautiful pictures. I don't really have a good way to rate that, lol
3. Yes
4. Yes
I love my evo. There is a huge and great development community behind it. Which is a huge plus when your looking to root, there's also alot of accesories etc.
Sprint has true 4g that is very easy to turn on off.
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i want to get the EVO 4G on Metro PCS. but i want to make sure that MMS and GPS work on Metro PCS. but importantly, i got to make sure that a custom ROM for it can enhance batt life. all this with sense 3.0.
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To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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Wimax is true 4g, and heavily out powers hsdpa+
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xlk said:
i want to get the EVO 4G on Metro PCS. but i want to make sure that MMS and GPS work on Metro PCS. but importantly, i got to make sure that a custom ROM for it can enhance batt life. all this with sense 3.0.
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Sense 3.0 would eat either phones battery given their not built for it.
Aosp roms get the good battery
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