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Froyo running on HTC Magic

Didn't see this posted and it looked fairly interesting so here you go.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/android-2-2-spotted-in-analytics-data-running-on-magic/

Dude. Seriously. If 2.2 hits the market before the hero gets 2.1, Sprint and HTC are going to look like fools. And have some SERIOUSLY pissed off customers on their hands. Maybe if THEY thought about putting their apps in the market instead of trying to implement them into the software at release (as the article mentions google is planning to do), maybe their wouldn't be such a lag in updates.

tejasrichard said:
Dude. Seriously. If 2.2 hits the market before the hero gets 2.1, Sprint and HTC are going to look like fools. And have some SERIOUSLY pissed off customers on their hands. Maybe if THEY thought about putting their apps in the market instead of trying to implement them into the software at release (as the article mentions google is planning to do), maybe their wouldn't be such a lag in updates.
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100% Agree with you on that, hopefully google keeps there word with this updating situation.

I will laugh so hard if 2.2 comes out when the Hero gets 2.1... one reason I'm ditching Sense UI on my next phone and getting the Nexus instead of the EVO.

schizopunk said:
I will laugh so hard if 2.2 comes out when the Hero gets 2.1... one reason I'm ditching Sense UI on my next phone and getting the Nexus instead of the EVO.
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I agree with your points, but 4g, front camera and a huge screen are forcing me to get an evo.

danknee said:
I agree with your points, but 4g, front camera and a huge screen are forcing me to get an evo.
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Between the price and just my horrible experience with Sense UI with my Hero, I dont know I guess its just drawing me away... and I'd really miss having a trackball if I had an EVO too.

danknee said:
I agree with your points, but 4g, front camera and a huge screen are forcing me to get an evo.
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+10. Living in an area that is completely covered by 4g makes this purchase damn near compulsory. Though I must admit....no one would have to twist my arm very hard to convince me to buy the evo, lol!

4g
the only thing sprint hasnt told us about the evo is the 4g to my knowledge is going to be limited to certain kb's, not sure of the number yet not sure if this is even true but def a rumor from my friend that works at sprint, while 3g on the evo will be unlimited but they are selling 4g by the gb i think, like for an extra 10 bucks on top of your data plan it gives you 4g but its limited, i use my hero as a modem so that would suck if i got an evo. idk yet i guess we will see in due time.

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the only thing sprint hasnt told us about the evo is the 4g to my knowledge is going to be limited to certain kb's, not sure of the number yet not sure if this is even true but def a rumor from my friend that works at sprint, while 3g on the evo will be unlimited but they are selling 4g by the gb i think, like for an extra 10 bucks on top of your data plan it gives you 4g but its limited, i use my hero as a modem so that would suck if i got an evo. idk yet i guess we will see in due time.
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What they told me is that 4G will be unlimited and the 3G is limited to like 5GB or something like that. I've heard that from multiple people... just what I've heard so far.

4g will be unlimited and 3g is capped at 5gb. I work for dealer who sales sprint and that thats the norm for data. 3g is capped because we dont own all parts of that network, where as 4g is ours with Clear, so yeah

twan254 said:
4g will be unlimited and 3g is capped at 5gb. I work for dealer who sales sprint and that thats the norm for data. 3g is capped because we dont own all parts of that network, where as 4g is ours with Clear, so yeah
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Yayy! I was right, lol.

Demoyo23 said:
the only thing sprint hasnt told us about the evo is the 4g to my knowledge is going to be limited to certain kb's, not sure of the number yet not sure if this is even true but def a rumor from my friend that works at sprint, while 3g on the evo will be unlimited but they are selling 4g by the gb i think, like for an extra 10 bucks on top of your data plan it gives you 4g but its limited, i use my hero as a modem so that would suck if i got an evo. idk yet i guess we will see in due time.
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Actually, the rumor I heard from someone at Sprint (not a store employee) is that it will be exactly like the current 4G plans... unlimited 4G, 5GB limit on 3G. The only thing they are currently wrestling with is pricing on the voice + data plans.

mjb5406 said:
Actually, the rumor I heard from someone at Sprint (not a store employee) is that it will be exactly like the current 4G plans... unlimited 4G, 5GB limit on 3G. The only thing they are currently wrestling with is pricing on the voice + data plans.
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Wait do we currently have a 5gb cap on out heros for 3g cause I can hit 5gb
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Verizon's launch of LTE in Nov making anyone rethink Droid X??

As of 2 days ago i have never been so sure about wanting a new phone as i was the Droid X. Now there are rumors all over the internet that Verizon will launch its 4G network (aka LTE) on November 15th and have a couple of 4G devices on sale on black Friday. An on top of that the rumors are that they will sell the iphone in January on the 4G network. (not that ill choose the iphone over the Droid X).
I am just wondering, am I jumping the gun here with the Droid X? I am assuming whatever phone with launch with 4G is going to have to be kickass phones. I am also assuming that the Droid X will not be 4G compatible. I hate to pass up this beast and then its just rumors but for some reason i think there is some truth in these ones. Thoughts please

I would venture to guess that the Droid X will be 4G compatible...maybe?

LTE doesn't make that much of a difference to me. Take a look at 4G -- it just got switched on in a few more cities, bringing the number up to a paltry dozen or so (I think? Not quite sure). LTE might also be slow to roll out. Besides, it's a new technology, and it might eat battery like on the EVO.

microdot said:
As of 2 days ago i have never been so sure about wanting a new phone as i was the Droid X. Now there are rumors all over the internet that Verizon will launch its 4G network (aka LTE) on November 15th and have a couple of 4G devices on sale on black Friday. An on top of that the rumors are that they will sell the iphone in January on the 4G network. (not that ill choose the iphone over the Droid X).
I am just wondering, am I jumping the gun here with the Droid X? I am assuming whatever phone with launch with 4G is going to have to be kickass phones. I am also assuming that the Droid X will not be 4G compatible. I hate to pass up this beast and then its just rumors but for some reason i think there is some truth in these ones. Thoughts please
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I am def rethinking... I don't know why though.... I mean 3g is pretty quick here for anything I would ever do ON MY PHONE... it's not like I am ripping torrents through this connection or something.....
I will probably pull the trigger and be happy as ever...

The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.

rolandroland said:
The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.
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Sprint has a surcharge for 4g?? What the....

cbaty08 said:
Sprint has a surcharge for 4g?? What the....
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$10 extra if you want 4G

rolandroland said:
$10 extra if you want 4G
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Dang... I think I am just gonna get the X... I would bet big red charges then if others already are... Plus it will be a while I think before both the phone and coverage get to me...

Engadget review is up!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/01/motorola-droid-x-review/

Many sources at verizon claim 4g will launch in november with only mobile broadband devices (ie mifi laptop 4g) but devices/phones wont launch until q1 or q2 2010
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Many sources at verizon claim 4g will launch in november with only mobile broadband devices (ie mifi laptop 4g) but devices/phones wont launch until q1 or q2 2010
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Do you mean q1 q2 2011?

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Do you mean q1 q2 2011?
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Yes. From what I have heard around the watercooler, early 2011 for consumer devices..

Not to metion unless you are in one of those 25-30 markets you will not have it right away. And I can safely say I am currently not.

rolandroland said:
The question is what does 4G data cost? I assume there is a surcharge like Sprint? I can wait on 4G until there isn't a surcharge, unless it is nominal.
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Well from what i read Verizon will not charge the extra $10 for 4G but will however used tiered data plans for its 4G phones like AT&T is doing. SO goodbye unlimited data plans. Doesnt make sense, the second they come out with the powerful devices that are basically mini laptops, hotspots and GPS in , they put a cap on the data for these data hundry devices. Just clearly shows again how money hungry they are. Like $30 a month from millions of customers is not enough.
That said, after thinking it through i will also get the doid X. 6 months is a long time to wait to see if rumors pan out. Plus this puppy is running on 1Ghz and will be plenty fast. I even saw is video today where i played video at 60fps. Iphone 4 can only do 30. The video was so so smooth.
I cant wait for July 15th!!!!

microdot said:
I even saw is video today where i played video at 60fps. Iphone 4 can only do 30. The video was so so smooth.
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Where'd you hear that one from?

leestyle said:
Where'd you hear that one from?
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i saw it in a youtube video where i guy did all these test on the droid's speed. I tried to insert the link but it gives me a error. Just go to youtube and type in droid x benchmark test. Should be a clip where he compaires the droid x, evo and nexus i think

microdot said:
Well from what i read Verizon will not charge the extra $10 for 4G but will however used tiered data plans for its 4G phones like AT&T is doing. SO goodbye unlimited data plans.
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Want to bet 4G phones wind up requiring the highest tier? Effectively charging for 4G. I just don't see VzW (and every other carrier) not taking advantage of early adopters.

No. Lets say it comes out in 6 months in "select areas". I can upgrade my phone one year from July 15th and more than likely LTE won't be in my area until mid to late 2011 or even 2012. Not worried one bit.

I can't see the lte footprint being useable for a couple years anyways. Dig the X, but think I'll b sticking with my Droid for a while.
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My omnia just broke last week (won't charge any batteries, i think the temp sensor is fried)
So I don't really have a choice but to upgrade to the X, it's the only phone i can do early because otherwise i have to wait till august. And this vx6700 is not very nice to me.
That being said i'm a little upset with the hdmi issue, that was one of my main reasons.
but just to talk about 4g i really doubt it will be much of a battery hog. because sprint basically is just reselling a wimax service (which i do get in my area around chicago) and it is fast but it's not worth using unless i'm on a laptop (because of the battery drain) and soon the unlimited will probably go away like the rest.
And if i'm not mistaken the sprint 4g (wimax) runs at about 2.5ghz? or so. Where I think verizion will incorporate this in there 4g.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iMbsPSv2vatAVvbz_8n0xU3Mfvnw
While 700mhz doesn't provide much bandwidth, My guess there going to use that in tandem with eh EVDO (i think 900mhz ish?) that they currently have, kind of like an A/G router will use both the freq to increase throughput.
Call me stupid but i think having another antenna at a lower freq like that will use up less power then the sprint one at 2.5ghz, but i could be wrong.

Moto Atrix (Dual C) vs Epic

Just watched a demo of the MOTO Atrix dual core....wow the scrolling is horrible. Side by side with the Epic, the differences are HUGE! It's hard not to smile knowing that the EPIC still dominates even dual core offerings.
I noticed it's an ATT "4G" phone, so after going to ATT site and clicking their 4G link, it took me to a map of blue colored coverage, which oddly enough looks EXACTLY like their 3G coverage. Upon further examination, that's EXACTLY what they show you, the 3G coverage. There are but a small handful of cities that actually implement TMOs HSPA+ '4G'. Just like apple, att using their 'full of ****' marketing practices. It's really sad how much $ apple and att has made selling inferior hardware and service for twice that of which I pay for the Epic on Sprint.
I have 2 Epics, with unlimited everything (except the landline 1500min pool), and both phones plans combined is cheaper than 1 iphone with unlimited everything, except the 4GB worth of data. And that's 3G data!
Man that's so sad. I can't believe how many fools there are out there.
Samsung can't get Froyo right to save their life, but even the Eclair Epic is a better choice than the Atrix.

Atrix makes sammiches tho

Atrix? Meh.

NoSoMo said:
Just watched a demo of the MOTO Atrix dual core....wow the scrolling is horrible. Side by side with the Epic, the differences are HUGE! It's hard not to smile knowing that the EPIC still dominates even dual core offerings.
I noticed it's an ATT "4G" phone, so after going to ATT site and clicking their 4G link, it took me to a map of blue colored coverage, which oddly enough looks EXACTLY like their 3G coverage. Upon further examination, that's EXACTLY what they show you, the 3G coverage. There are but a small handful of cities that actually implement TMOs HSPA+ '4G'. Just like apple, att using their 'full of ****' marketing practices. It's really sad how much $ apple and att has made selling inferior hardware and service for twice that of which I pay for the Epic on Sprint.
I have 2 Epics, with unlimited everything (except the landline 1500min pool), and both phones plans combined is cheaper than 1 iphone with unlimited everything, except the 4GB worth of data. And that's 3G data!
Man that's so sad. I can't believe how many fools there are out there.
Samsung can't get Froyo right to save their life, but even the Eclair Epic is a better choice than the Atrix.
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i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms

Good.luck with the custom kernels on the atrix.
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Atrix > Epic > Evo
Multi-cores are the future, lets not have a redundant debate on how multi-cores aren't useful until apps and games are optimized for them, we all know how that ended up when PC's went multi-core; And lets not be like the EVO folks who were in denial when the Epic came out.

brian2220 said:
i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms
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That I agree about the service here... T mobile 3G is faster than our 3G...
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ghostrid3r said:
Atrix > Epic > Evo
Multi-cores are the future, lets not have a redundant debate on how multi-cores aren't useful until apps and games are optimized for them, we all know how that ended up when PC's went multi-core; And lets not be like the EVO folks who were in denial when the Epic came out.
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i am in denial but I cant wait till cm7 gets here for my girls phone

My friend who I have known for 8 years bought the Atrix with the Dock and everything spending $500+. Personally, I would have not invested so much in a device that is not going to easy to make custom kernel's for. Matter of fact, its a locked boot loader which means you are screwed. Even Cyanogen himself said today that he would support the device had it not been for that fact. Still, its kinda cool, but makes developing for it a lot ( LOT ) harder than it should be.
Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?

heathmcabee said:
My friend who I have known for 8 years bought the Atrix with the Dock and everything spending $500+. Personally, I would have not invested so much in a device that is not going to easy to make custom kernel's for. Matter of fact, its a locked boot loader which means you are screwed. Even Cyanogen himself said today that he would support the device had it not been for that fact. Still, its kinda cool, but makes developing for it a lot ( LOT ) harder than it should be.
Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?
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Not the first moto device with a locked boot loader, anything and everything is hackable. Period.
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heathmcabee said:
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Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?
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XOOM is a "flagship device" all of google's flagship devices are the first to ship with the OS and are VERY developer friendly so far the list is G1,Droid,Nexus 1, Nexus S, XOOM

Honestly, I can not stand AT&T. They have the same pricing as Verizon, yet they're inferior (network wise) to Sprint. The only reason they had a chance in the mobile market industry is because of the iPhone (which I still prefer Android over).
Now that Verizon has iPhone, ATT will probably be bought out by another carrier, or something weird.

brian2220 said:
i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms
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LOL -- ATT....did someone just defend ATTs service???
Sprint's CLEAR division has LTE in Phoenix running 100Mb down and peak 47Mb uploads.........ATT probably runs their whole network off of one of the LTE connections.
There will always be someone who lives in a dead zone. WiMax ins't there yet, but between Sprint and Verizon's networks, Phoenix couldn't be covered any better. Roms allow for forced roam, which I had on my WinMo 6.5 phone.....and could switch between networks and roam 3G if I had a Sprint issue. It made for the most robust phone I've ever seen anyone in possession of (TP2 was quad band).

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That I agree about the service here... T mobile 3G is faster than our 3G...
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Their 'enhanced' 3G is quite fast....Got over 5Mb on my sisters Samsung Tab sitting 100ft in front of the tower....2Mb up. Damn't Sprint, unlock our WiMax UPLOAD already.......bandwidth is clearly available up and down, it won't do jack to the network if they let us full duplex. I mean, it's a phone..... I couldn't imagine FB pic uploads swamping the network with just a fraction of the HD YouTube streaming

Overstew said:
Honestly, I can not stand AT&T. They have the same pricing as Verizon, yet they're inferior (network wise) to Sprint. The only reason they had a chance in the mobile market industry is because of the iPhone (which I still prefer Android over).
Now that Verizon has iPhone, ATT will probably be bought out by another carrier, or something weird.
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Fck att,i hope they go under.Their costumer support is the worst,when I had iphone 3gs they acted like they were doing me a favor by me staying with them,lol.
I had tmobile and sprint since then and both of these carriers are light years ahead in terms of everything,dont know about verizon but I havent heard nothing bad about them.

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Fck att,i hope they go under.Their costumer support is the worst,when I had iphone 3gs they acted like they were doing me a favor by me staying with them,lol.
I had tmobile and sprint since then and both of these carriers are light years ahead in terms of everything,dont know about verizon but I havent heard nothing bad about them.
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sprints customer service in stores sucks big time **** and thats another reason why i left.
some of the employees are just braindead and dont what is right or left
att and verizon are the best right now and because they know what they are doing and thats why they are so big
sprints barely getting its stupid company ass back in gear after all the years it was behind and watch it fall back down soon

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sprints customer service in stores sucks big time **** and thats another reason why i left.
some of the employees are just braindead and dont what is right or left
att and verizon are the best right now and because they know what they are doing and thats why they are so big
sprints barely getting its stupid company ass back in gear after all the years it was behind and watch it fall back down soon
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Almost all store employees are dumb at any carrier.
What counts for sprint and tmobile is that they dont disconnect your service if you dont pay wkthing 2-3 days.I can be 2 weeks late with sprint and not get charged extra and not even have a warning from sprint.
Plus on sprint and tmobile I can download 80gb of movies a month,they dont have data cap.So if you use your phone as your primary internet then tmo and sprint is only choices.
I just wish I dint leave tmobile for sprint because speed was way faster on tmobile,and my promised sprint's 4g never came.

Yeah your ridge about Tue paying the.bill late. I've been late before and they don't even care.
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Yeah your ridge about Tue paying the.bill late. I've been late before and they don't even care.
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Lol at swype fail . Jk
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The atrix is a far more powerful device, but the first true dual cores will be powered by omap4 and perhaps 3rd Gen snapdragons or tegra3's. That's when it all really begins.

[Q] Would you get rid of ur EVO 4G if there was no port of ICS for it?

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That's the plan well plan on getting a sprint phone w ics and LTE lol
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Keeping the faith on CM9.
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Without a doubt there will be a port for ICS on this phone. Money has it that even the G1 will get a working port.

Even if there isnt a port, I plan on keeping my evo until Sprint rolls out their LTE network and the new phones are out.

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Even if there isnt a port, I plan on keeping my evo until Sprint rolls out their LTE network and the new phones are out.
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That is my plan also.

My plan as well. I am not the type that needs to get a new phone at the drop of a hat, but when LTE rolls out on Sprint, that will be my queue.
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The only way I'll give my evo up is if they get any kind of towers up in my area beside the junk 3g service i get now. I'm just glad I can get wifi, in just about every inch of my town that is unsecured.

I'm keeping my EVO until i have the money to switch to AT&T for the Galaxy Nexus.

Sorry that you want to go to AT&T. Been there done that. And there is a reason why I am with Sprint now.
For the people waiting for the new phones, you wont get unlimited internet since you will have to change your plan.
And yes the EVO will get ICS. HTC may even release a version for it. They just have not committed to it yet. But don't get your hopes up.

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Sorry that you want to go to AT&T. Been there done that. And there is a reason why I am with Sprint now.
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I dunno what you experienced, but everyone around me in Dallas with AT&T is pulling 5mb+ on 3G. My buddy at A&M says he's pulled even faster speeds down there. Unlimited data doesn't mean squat at less than 150kbs.

Nope. Ill probably downgrade to a 3g only phone or even VirginMobile. I use like 600MB per month cuz im always on a wifi.
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Nope. I'd start working on the ICS build myself.
And even though this isn't the case, and CM9 is all but guaranteed to show up on the Evo (as it's in the top 3 devices they have users for, iirc), I'm still planning on helping out.

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For the people waiting for the new phones, you wont get unlimited internet since you will have to change your plan.
Source??
This is the only differentiator Sprint has and the only thing keeping me from heading to Verizon who has significantly better coverage in my area (even with my Airvana at home).
I don't see anything that says you lose unlimited internet for upgrading your phone and why would you need to change plans anyway??
Or are you saying Sprint isn't getting the new phones? or that you'll have to change plans when LTE rolls out?
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Don't really care much for ICS but I will be keeping my Evo until Sprint releases a decent WP7 LTE capable phone. (if ever)

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tnerb123 said:
For the people waiting for the new phones, you wont get unlimited internet since you will have to change your plan.
Source??
This is the only differentiator Sprint has and the only thing keeping me from heading to Verizon who has significantly better coverage in my area (even with my Airvana at home).
I don't see anything that says you lose unlimited internet for upgrading your phone and why would you need to change plans anyway??
Or are you saying Sprint isn't getting the new phones? or that you'll have to change plans when LTE rolls out?
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He is talking about if u jump from sprint to Verizon since they don't have unlimited nor does anyone else n no way to get it and if ur not going to use 2 gigs. does the speed matter? I know it helps with youtube vids or whatever but youtube lags n sucks even on cable or dsl. What ull be able to load web pages faster woo exciting.
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HTC may even release a version for it. They just have not committed to it yet. But don't get your hopes up.
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Never happen.
CM9 or a good AOSP are our best bet. I've been giving the GS II 4G a long hard look, but a nice AOSP ICS build with 4G working would keep me happy for a while longer.
I'd dump Sense for ICS AOSP easy.

Hey, if ICS never get ported maybe we can hold out for Jelly Bean (j/k)

My EVO does everything I need it to do and I don't see any compelling reason to upgrade until sprint flips on the LTE switch in my area and pushes out a decent ICS/LTE phone. Of course by the time that happens Google will be prepping Marshmallow for release... I'm on wifi 99% of the day, though I can appreciate peeps agrivation with Sprint that do rely on mobile data. I suspect my EVO 4G will die with only about 5 minutes of Wi-Max use to it's credit. That makes me face a little.

Read today that the nexus 1 will not get an official release of ics due to hardware. Adreno 200 issues? I don't know. I'm sure there will be a port though.

Sprint bought out.

Hey everyone just saw the articles all over tech sites about softbanks majority takeover of Sprint Nextel and since this is the HTC EVO 4G OG section and most (certainly not all) are currently or have in the past Been with Sprint, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the issue. Good move? Why? Bad move why? Will it help bring Sprint life? Future of Simply Everything plans? Talk it up just keep it civil and friendly.
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Pretty sure this thread belongs elsewhere. Here is a link to the story. Doesn't sound as though the deal is done, as you implied.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...al-to-buy-70-percent-of-sprint-for-20-billion
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FinZ28 said:
Pretty sure this thread belongs elsewhere. Here is a link to the story. Doesn't sound as though the deal is done, as you implied.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...al-to-buy-70-percent-of-sprint-for-20-billion
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There's a newer article out. Reporting it is indeed finished and should be announced today. I'll find the link. But apologies if this doesn't belong I see much more "off topic threads" here Luke I want a GS3 blah blah figure this is somewhat on topic. As the OG EVO WAS a Sprint exclusive and so at one point every EVO was configured or running on Sprint. While I'm sure many of them (me for one) are still on Sprint and this could have a large impact on people. Again if I violated anything a MOD can surely close this or move it to where it belongs.
Here is the link: Japan’s Softbank to Acquire Majority Stake in Sprint for $20B http://mashable.com/2012/10/14/softbank-to-acquire-sprint/
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Gotcha. I stand corrected.
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I think this is a great thing for Sprint on the short term, kind of skeptical if it will be good for us consumers in the long run. I also find it somewhat sad that one company that has some sizeable debt, has just purchased a controlling share in another company with even greater debt, and I believe must of had to make this deal on credit.... Wish I could do that ****, dem bastards... :banghead:
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jamieg71 said:
I think this is a great thing for Sprint on the short term, kind of skeptical if it will be good for us consumers in the long run. I also find it somewhat sad that one company that has some sizeable debt, has just purchased a controlling share in another company with even greater debt, and I believe must of had to make this deal on credit.... Wish I could do that ****, dem bastards... :banghead:
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Yea I'm leaning the same way after more looking into. Hopefully this can be the influx of cash Sprint needs to.build the new networks faster and start drawing more customers. I just hope they keep the simply everything plans. I think that's a big plus for them. If they can't use this to get going again then nothing will.
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SuperiorEVOlution18 said:
Yea I'm leaning the same way after more looking into. Hopefully this can be the influx of cash Sprint needs to.build the new networks faster and start drawing more customers. I just hope they keep the simply everything plans. I think that's a big plus for them. If they can't use this to get going again then nothing will.
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This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.

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This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.
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Agreed most people agree the up front cash will allow them to build out the LTE network faster. Which is good. Hopefully the broader the 4G range 3g speeds will improve as well since less traffic.
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Not 'finished'....
BTW, this is LONG from 'finished', this is just the announcement of the agreement... there's still a LONG due diligence period that is only now starting along with required regulatory reviews. I doubt this will be 'finished' until 2nd quarter 2013, if not later.

AzzidReign said:
This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.
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You get what you pay for. Sprint's 4G is lacking and so is their 3G speeds. Getting consistent performance is out of question. Yeah the data is unlimited but that's it. Verizon has family share plans for $40/phone and shared data starting at $50/month. You could spend anywhere from $15-35 a month depending upon your data usage but Verizon at least in Los Angeles is worth every penny. Sprint will be nowhere near that kind of coverage for the next couple of years and I am tired of signing contracts based on promises of better data.

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You get what you pay for. Sprint's 4G is lacking and so is their 3G speeds. Getting consistent performance is out of question. Yeah the data is unlimited but that's it. Verizon has family share plans for $40/phone and shared data starting at $50/month. You could spend anywhere from $15-35 a month depending upon your data usage but Verizon at least in Los Angeles is worth every penny. Sprint will be nowhere near that kind of coverage for the next couple of years and I am tired of signing contracts based on promises of better data.
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Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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jamieg71 said:
Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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I'm guessing those 4G speeds are on your EVO LTE?

FinZ28 said:
I'm guessing those 4G speeds are on your EVO LTE?
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Yessir
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I read on Engadget today that Sprint bought like 50.8% of Clearwire. I wonder if our how that affects this deal

I hope that by buying half of clearwire, it improves 3g speeds.
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jamieg71 said:
Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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Whatever works for you man. I guess Sprint has Independence covered like a blanket I guess. BTW, each phone on the shared plan with Verizon gives you a good idea where you stand on data. If you feel you're about to go over, you can go to the next level.
I've been with Sprint for a long time and really wish the 4G coverage was better but when you lose to metropcs in a major market then that is a problem.

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I read on Engadget today that Sprint bought like 50.8% of Clearwire. I wonder if our how that affects this deal
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I'm pretty sure Softbank wanted Sprint to be in control of clearwire as per the agreement. But like it was mentioned the Grand ole Government still has to give the ok for this so it'll be at least 6+ months.
I also have to side with Jamie here I had Verizon for a while (pre-smartphone days) and their service was great but lately as a huge Root fan I'd never go back. They are locking down the bootloaders on so many of the best devices like he SG3 and another one I'm forgetting but they have plans to lockdown more in the future. And while Sprint isn't the biggest Root supporter they at least leave that door unlocked. nd once they get the LTE network built out speeds WILL improve, we already have it here in Baltimore and my buddies Gnex is pulling a consistent 20-25mb/sec which for us Sprint users is Freaking a god send lol. Combine that will never having to worry about Data which I use about 5-7 gb/month I'm sticking right there with them. Until they are a huge success or die off lol
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Cool story! I dropped sprint strictly because coverage in my area was very spotty. I have no regrets about it and if they fixed the network I'd go back in a heart beat...I just got tired of hearing about how my market was always next in line...blah blah blah. I also have no issue with verizon. The phone I picked was easily unlocked... that is more research based..all carriers should have a Google phone that can be unlocked. Data is not an issue...WiFi is every where anyways...even at the gym. I pay just as much now as I did with sprint... but dont drop calls...and since I am military and have a wife at home with my kids...an on demand call is a must. I also know Verizon has the better freq. Band... sure in the higher MHz you will get faster speeds..but the coverage area isn't as big...its all give and take. I am rooting for sprint...but just got tired of waiting....I love capitalism and choice...so I switched to who I feel deserved my money!
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bigbear6708 said:
Cool story! I dropped sprint strictly because coverage in my area was very spotty. I have no regrets about it and if they fixed the network I'd go back in a heart beat...I just got tired of hearing about how my market was always next in line...blah blah blah. I also have no issue with verizon. The phone I picked was easily unlocked... that is more research based..all carriers should have a Google phone that can be unlocked. Data is not an issue...WiFi is every where anyways...even at the gym. I pay just as much now as I did with sprint... but dont drop calls...and since I am military and have a wife at home with my kids...an on demand call is a must. I also know Verizon has the better freq. Band... sure in the higher MHz you will get faster speeds..but the coverage area isn't as big...its all give and take. I am rooting for sprint...but just got tired of waiting....I love capitalism and choice...so I switched to who I feel deserved my money!
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All very good reasons to switch. Yea I'd rank Verizon over ATT&t but the those locked bootloaders. I havent checking in a while but the locked sgs3 was a huge ordeal being locked. That kinda thing makes me mad. It's OUR Devices not the carriers and if I want to root then I have that right.
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On my og I get 5-10 mb in a town near my house which is unblievable :what:
Edit: sorry lol the 15-19mb is from my LTE in Chicago
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