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Okay, so I've been doing some thinking... is Sprint just a bunch of assholes or what? They advertise the EVO as "The first 4G phone", but "plays nicely with 3G as well"... I think that's a load of **** fir the most part. For people like me, where when I looked on the Sprint coverage map for their 3G showed the best quality which is a load of crap.... my 3G speeds are terrible, luckily I have WiFi...but I'm not always home, so therefore it leaves me no choice but to use the horrible 3G that is mine. Voice/phone quality is amazing where I am, but really....if I can't even have decent speeds for 3G it's apparent that 4G may not even come to where I'm at.. it's just depressing, I feel like I'm paying for service that isn't entirely there, some of you may know what I mean...but yeah.. sucky part is that I can't cancel and go with someone else. I've had tmobile for years, never really had a problem with them, the evo was just so appealing...
/endrant
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You had 30 days to decide to keep your phone, you did. Nobody wants to hear you cry about a poor decision you made.
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Hold on let me get my violin
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Get over it u had 30 days u kept the phone so stop ur *****ing
from my phone duh

Interesting.. What are these horrible speeds? I live in the 4g dead zone and average about 1.2mb/s not super fast but it works. Also, Sprint seems to treat people good when you have a legitimate issue and you let them know nicely. Hell, years ago they gave me 25% off my bill when my mogul kept breaking over and over... I used the crap out of it, was wearing out keyboards in weeks. Try to call them, there's nothing we can do for you here.

Not sure where you live but in Arlington, VA I get around 2 Mbps on 3G and 8 on 4G. I agree that you had 30 days to see if you liked the service or not.

jordant2 said:
I can understand what the op is saying BUT, Sprint still has the best overall pricing even after the $10 for no 4g coverage so I can't really complain. My 3g speeds here in the metro Detroit area are not so great though. I get about 700kbps downloads. Not the best but not the worst. I tried T-Mobile and the 3g was about 1.0mbps but the bill was $40 more a month. Not at all worth the trade off for an extra 300kbps. I really only use the evo for streaming pandora and casual surfing so I really don't do a lot of downloading or wifi tethering. But Sprint is by far the best overall service for the price.
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Also in metro Detroit. I was with tmo for 9 years and Sprint's data coverage and speed is a huge improvement along with better pricing. Voice coverage is about the same. I've been with Sprint for about 6 months with no real complaints. Not to mention, yearly upgrades cuz I jumped on a shared plan and they're already premier members.
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I agree with others. You had 30 days, which is more than enough time, to test the network. No carrier has excellent coverage everywhere. They all have dead zones or bad signal areas. If you didn't like the service in your area, why didn't you return the phone within 30 days?
I have no problems, at all, with Sprint. And coming to Sprint from T-Mobile, I can most definitely say that Sprint has the better network.
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MikeSkiX said:
Hold on let me get my violet
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Lol. What's a violet? ;-)
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Are you serious ???
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with GSM). CDMA has just, overall, been better. Problem with the other CDMA (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ

jasonziter said:
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with CDMA). GSM has just, overall been better. Problem with the other GSM (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ
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umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma

MikeSkiX said:
Hold on let me get my violet
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Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone else plan?
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gqstatus0685 said:
Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone's plan?
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ooopps..
NewZJ said:
umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma
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Oppps......lol....flip flop em. Sprint and Verizon = CDMA. AT&T / Tmobile = GSM

Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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so true...

This has to be a joke / trolling
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so true...
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Are you guys trolling. Seriously. There is a 30 day trial period. No questions asked return period. Everyone who signs up with Sprint knows it.
You are either:
A. Trolling
B. Not reading prior posts......ie UBER LAZY (there is only a couple pages)
C. Retarded.
Lets hope its B.

You guys are silly !!!
BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
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jasonziter said:
YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
-JZ
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Lighten up, Bud ... he was being facetious.

There's a 30 day trial period?

Sprint coverage

So how do you like the sprint coverage in your area. My contract is up and att has better coverage in my area. Anything bad about att. There new htc evo clone is coming out soon.
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If your poor sprint coverage is just a problem in your house you can let them know and they will send you an antenna that "piggy backs" off of your broadband. Will give you full bars in and around your house. But if your general region has bad signal a new carrier might be the answer.
What is this new AT&T evo clone you speak of?
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klquicksall said:
So how do you like the sprint coverage in your area. My contract is up and att has better coverage in my area. Anything bad about att. There new htc evo clone is coming out soon.
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Whatever coverage is best is what you should get. Company perks and phones don't mean anything if you can't use it.
As far as comparisons - Sprint is cheaper and has yearly upgrades. AT&T was just voted worst in every state in the US on it's network. Verizon is first, Sprint is second and T-Mobile is third.

The new htc phone is on att website. Its the same size as the evo with 16gb internal storage. It will also be able to use att lte whenever it rolls out.
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DirtyShroomz said:
Whatever coverage is best is what you should get. Company perks and phones don't mean anything if you can't use it.
As far as comparisons - Sprint is cheaper and has yearly upgrades. AT&T was just voted worst in every state in the US on it's network. Verizon is first, Sprint is second and T-Mobile is third.
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Verizon is big here also. Ill have to look into both. Verizon will have the thunderbolt soon
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DirtyShroomz said:
Whatever coverage is best is what you should get. Company perks and phones don't mean anything if you can't use it.
As far as comparisons - Sprint is cheaper and has yearly upgrades. AT&T was just voted worst in every state in the US on it's network. Verizon is first, Sprint is second and T-Mobile is third.
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You know I like you, I'm not bashing. But I have to ask.. Amidst all the discussion about Sprint changing their "Premier" program why would you, of all people, be selling others on yearly upgrades when that is available only to people who have the most expensive plans..
smh @ Sprint
OP- imo, Sprint is still the best service provider. If you get a spring Sprint signal then stock with them, just don't get your hopes up on that annual upgrade.

nebenezer said:
You know I like you, I'm not bashing. But I have to ask.. Amidst all the discussion about Sprint changing their "Premier" program why would you, of all people, be selling others on yearly upgrades when that is available only to people who have the most expensive plans..
smh @ Sprint
OP- imo, Sprint is still the best service provider. If you get a spring Sprint signal then stock with them, just don't get your hopes up on that annual upgrade.
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Hah, that's the job of a salesman. I'm not saying you're going to get it, just saying that you have the possibility of getting it lol.

Dont get me wrong I like sprint. Ive been with them for about 6 years. I just hate driving 30 miles and im roaming. The plus side I have 4g in my area. Just wanted to see what everyone thinks.
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HTC Inspire 4g
4.3-inch super LCD display, an 8.0 MP camera with HD video recording, 3.5 mm headphone jack, a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, 4 GB internal memory, 8GB micro SD.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att
Read more: http://technorati.com/technology/an...unces-new-android-phones-talks/#ixzz1BumfRTbD
klquicksall said:
The new htc phone is on att website. Its the same size as the evo with 16gb internal storage. It will also be able to use att lte whenever it rolls out.
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dmoses1969 said:
HTC Inspire 4g
4.3-inch super LCD display, an 8.0 MP camera with HD video recording, 3.5 mm headphone jack, a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, 4 GB internal memory, 8GB micro SD.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att
Read more: http://technorati.com/technology/an...unces-new-android-phones-talks/#ixzz1BumfRTbD
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4gb internal got it confused with the thunderbolt.
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RnFstRuckHrd said:
If your poor sprint coverage is just a problem in your house you can let them know and they will send you an antenna that "piggy backs" off of your broadband. Will give you full bars in and around your house. But if your general region has bad signal a new carrier might be the answer.
What is this new AT&T evo clone you speak of?
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Im going to call them and ask them about this. Thanks
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Compatible with at&t lte? That's a ways off for them isn't it? They don't even offer hspa+ yet do they? Personally I hate at&t just for the dropped calls issue. Left sprint for the iphone 3g back in 08. And now that I'm back I enjoy being able to make calls with out dropping or no signal errors. Only person that I get disconnected with is my wife....who still has at&t.

klquicksall said:
Im going to call them and ask them about this. Thanks
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It's called an Airave

DirtyShroomz said:
It's called an Airave
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I only get two bars in my house. Thanks for the info
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Nefariouss said:
Compatible with at&t lte? That's a ways off for them isn't it? They don't even offer hspa+ yet do they? Personally I hate at&t just for the dropped calls issue. Left sprint for the iphone 3g back in 08. And now that I'm back I enjoy being able to make calls with out dropping or no signal errors. Only person that I get disconnected with is my wife....who still has at&t.
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Sometimes thats not so bad. Thanks for the info.
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But it sounds like it is the Aluminum Uni-Body like the Desire HD which is pretty cool.

I love Sprint now that I have the Airave. When I moved to my new place, I had one bar if I was lucky, and it didn't make sense to walk out into the courtyard to make calls all the time. I just called to cancel due to lack of service, and was sent a free Airave. Set it up, and it's been the best thing ever.

OP, I just switched over from AT&T. My whole family has been on AT&T pretty much since they became a carrier. I've had their phones for at least 10 years. Loved my Tilt and Fuze to death but their service was horrible. My uncle has to drive 2 hours for work and would drop calls 4-5 times along the way. Since switching over to Sprint he's dropped none. I'd have the same call drop issue, even just sitting on my couch at home, no issue since coming to Sprint.
Also, just something an AT&T sales rep at a corporate store mentioned, AT&T is starting to worry about going out of business. From what the rep said, they're pretty sure most iPhone users will switch to Verizon once they get the phone. Mostly because of the poor customer service AT&T offers. Even the rep admitted that their way of looking at things was pretty much that they're the only carrier that offered the iPhone and could get away with the poor service since people wanted the phone so bad. Now with Verizon getting it, they're kind of SOL.
I don't know if the rep was just assuming things, or if that's something AT&T is truely concerned about. Either way, I won't be going back to them anytime soon - if ever.

Clearwire to drop retail, focus on corporate world!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-wholesale-drop-retail-plans-wsj-reports.html
I think we all knew this was coming, but I wonder if we will feel the effects of it, as if we don't already. My 4G is lucky to hit 1 down here in Idaho; 3G has been 200kbps down for the past few months, but 3G up is always at least 1mbps - soo stupid.

I what kind of effect this will have on their subsidiary, Clear Wireless, that sells 4G specifically to consumer/retail... they are my current ISP for home and laptop...

Corporate world.... to people such as Sprint and Comcast.... I don't see how this could be bad.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/wsj-clearwire-moving-away-from-retail-will-concentrate-on-netw/
WSJ says that the move may make Sprint more comfortable investing more cash in the company since they'll no longer be giving off the appearance that they're competing head-to-head on the customer level. Investment is exactly what Clearwire needs to survive right now, and whether it comes from Sprint or another national carrier that's in the market for 4G spectrum, you know what they say: money is money.
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Not saying it will be bad for sure, but clearwire and clear are horrible companies in the first place, especially when it comes to their customers. Why sprint invested and bought half of them is beyond me. What chapped to Sprint XOME or whatever 4G thing they were working on on their own a few years back?
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abrigham said:
I what kind of effect this will have on their subsidiary, Clear Wireless, that sells 4G specifically to consumer/retail... they are my current ISP for home and laptop...
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if clear 4g is good enough in your area that you get it inside your home, why don't you just get a sprint unlimited data plan and tether?
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wrb123 said:
if clear 4g is good enough in your area that you get it inside your home, why don't you just get a sprint unlimited data plan and tether?
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Some people I'm sure don't like to disable their internet connection at home every time they leave the house, especially if they don't live alone.
And what do you do if you've got to leave and whatever download/torrent you've got going on isn't finished? Cancel it or put it on hold until you come home?

Sprnt was the first on the market to get 4g with a half assed ran company. Sprint is the first on the market with a dual touchscreen *yawn* phone from a half assed phone manufacturer. Now maybe Sprint will be the first to drop the first 4g network..... Sorry just venting.

Hrshycro said:
What chapped to Sprint XOME or whatever 4G thing they were working on on their own a few years back?
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Xohm merged into Clear.

Sprint 4g is great as long as you are outside in the open and not moving at all.
The EVO you wish you had

Galaxy s2 coming to Verizon this summer

Galaxy s2 coming to Verizon soon supposedly.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-headed-to-verizon-in-july/
EDIT: Not happening.
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It better. July is my Birthday and I'd be buying one on release day.

Still no word on LTE or not though

saps said:
Still no word on LTE or not though
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No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.

I dont care, as long as it comes put.
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imnuts said:
No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.
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This... SGSIII or bust.
or some other unreleased super phone

imnuts said:
No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.
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Yeah likely same here

Looks like VZW is debunking the rumor of a July release
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-rumored-possibly-july-launch-verizon

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Looks like VZW is debunking the rumor of a July release
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That sucks but also not surprising. Honestly I originally thought the SGS2 wouldn't drop for verizon till september. Then again I'm still content with this fasc as is, at 1.5ghz already, and in cm7 and I can wait
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Speaking of LTE I saw this article for 4G download speeds on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution
When it said 100Mbps I honestly puked in excitement then I started thinking why aren't the phones showing these fast of speeds?

Because the frequency band they are using currently...lte technology benefits exponentially on wider frequencies...fastest they can get on 5ghz is around 25mbps
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Here is a link to the rumored leaked spec sheet.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Function_id5535
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The function is what i'm waiting for before I upgrade but I want them to do better on the price than they did on the Droid Charge

What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?

I cannot wait to get the SGSII my locked down X is killing me. It'll be a great sitting next to my fascinate.

Smeed said:
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
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Because a phone is a phone. If it does what it is supposed to do, why complain? We buy phones for what they do; whatever they'll be capable of later after updates is just a plus.
Bow chika wah wah

Why stick with Verizon? Because they're still by far the best nationwide carrier. Let's compare:
Sprint: Good satisfaction ratings, reliable network, lower prices. But their coverage isn't perfect, and they have a 4G network that's already outdated.
T-Mobile: Generally good satisfaction ratings, low prices. But like Sprint, their coverage is sub-par. Fake 4G (HSPA+) network, and doesn't even plan to develop a real 4G network for a few years. Likely will soon be part of AT&T.
AT&T: Terrible satisfaction ratings; the only carrier that's actually getting worse. Unreliable network. Has begun work on an actual 4G network (despite advertising HSPA+ as 4G like T-Mobile), but it's not active anywhere yet. Oh, and if you want to talk about mistreating Android: did you know that until just last month they didn't allow sideloading of apps?
Verizon: Has the widest-ranging, most reliable network. Tops consumer satisfaction ratings year after year (though Sprint is catching up). Has the fastest and most advanced (in both technology and deployment) 4G network, by far. And believe it or not, Verizon actually tends to be a bit more customer-friendly than other carriers. For example: they were the first to prorate early termination fees, and while they will eventually have capped data plans they've also said they'll roll out shared family data plans, something nobody else has talked about.
The consumer satisfaction ratings I'm citing, by the way, are Consumer Reports' -- you could probably find them via some Googling.

What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
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Why?
1 look at our options. Inferior screens across the board. Singlecored great phones for now, but what about next year. Overall design, few other phones are as sleek.
2 community development. Other than the nexus series or og droid, what other phone has been this great for customizing. Yes I know the driver issues are crap, but have you ever seen a bricked sgs without physical damage?
3 verizon for much of the country is the only choice. I'm not happy about it but there are simply no other options for some. If I found out tmo worked in my area I would drop verizon today.
4 and last, it seems manufactures are learning. samsung donating a sgs2 to the cyan team might just might indicate a reversal in previous ways of thinking.
If nothing else, it comes back to what other choice is there. Name any other option and there is a list of cons to go with it.
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rand4ll said:
Because the frequency band they are using currently...lte technology benefits exponentially on wider frequencies...fastest they can get on 5ghz is around 25mbps
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Wrong! We've hit 57mbps. Reason why it'll be slower speeds is because it will be "real world" with multiple users as apposed to 1 user testing the max speeds. Also they are going to cap the data throughput.

Sprints new network questions.....

After reading the announcement from this mornings strategy meeting I have a few questions bouncing around in my head. Was wondering if anyone here might know the answers. First, and most important, what happens to all the phones that are currently set for their 4g? Will they still work on the new network or is the change in band only for the 4g? I.e. if I were to buy a epic touch 4g would I still have 3g and the end of 2012 or would I have to buy another handset?
Secondly, wtf? Where did all the money go that I/we have been pouring into sprint for the 4g that most, myself included haven't been receiving? Is that the money that sprint just announced it would be spending to buy into apple? That's not what I signed up for.
Rant over.
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downyours said:
After reading the announcement from this mornings strategy meeting I have a few questions bouncing around in my head. Was wondering if anyone here might know the answers. First, and most important, what happens to all the phones that are currently set for their 4g? Will they still work on the new network or is the change in band only for the 4g? I.e. if I were to buy a epic touch 4g would I still have 3g and the end of 2012 or would I have to buy another handset?
Secondly, wtf? Where did all the money go that I/we have been pouring into sprint for the 4g that most, myself included haven't been receiving? Is that the money that sprint just announced it would be spending to buy into apple? That's not what I signed up for.
Rant over.
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They are committing to selling WiMax devices all though next year which implies support for much longer although they currently only have in place agreements with clearwire through the end of next year.
A crazed lady at the end of the call pissed the hesse and others off by questioning that they knew nothing about clearwire potential bankruptcy since they are 54% stake holders in the company. My take away is that sprint plans for Clearwire to fail and take the spectrum for themselves in bankruptcy court.
Oh but the epic 4g touch would take advantage of the 1x advanced 3g technology, but for 4G you are stuck with WiMax.

They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.

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They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.
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Exactly the argument that I was making. It would be pointless for anyone to buy new phones at this point. Which sucks because I really wanted to buy the epic touch or the nexus.
Basically they are writing checks that they can't cash. And they are going get it because they are practically forcing people to get new phones. They have announced 20 billion to be spent on apple over 4 years and now the new network which will cost who knows how much.
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They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.
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Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.

It looks like they will be continuing to support WiMAX until at least the end of 2012. They didn't really say what is happening after that, but I'm guessing that they'll still have significant WiMAX coverage through most of 2013.
From engadget:
The company plans for a rapid deployment of this new 4G network, with the first LTE markets and handsets to hit in mid-2012, and the full rollout mostly completed by 2013. Current subscribers signed up for WiMAX plans won't have to worry as their devices will continue to be supported throughout 2012.
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By the end of next year, Sprint aims to have a combined WiMAX/LTE population coverage of 176 million -- with 123 million covered by LTE and 76 million overlapping both. When the network build-out is nearly complete in 2013, the company should have over 250 million blanketed in LTE, far outstripping the stagnant 120 million served by WiMAX.
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stilesja said:
Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.
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Are you kidding? None of the iphone variants support 4g? The only difference is the att version supports HSPA+, which is certainly not 4g.
Also, nearly every phone sold will be upgradeable to 1x advanced, which considering this advanced 3g tech can reach speeds as fast or faster than current wimax, i don't think you'll be missing out on alot
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DiGi760 said:
It looks like they will be continuing to support WiMAX until at least the end of 2012. They didn't really say what is happening after that, but I'm guessing that they'll still have significant WiMAX coverage through most of 2013.
From engadget:
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This statement is a little inaccurate, as the statement made was that wimax devices will continue to be SOLD through 2012. As with nearly every cell technology, you can expect to still be able to utilize it for a long time.
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downyours said:
Exactly the argument that I was making. It would be pointless for anyone to buy new phones at this point. Which sucks because I really wanted to buy the epic touch or the nexus.
Basically they are writing checks that they can't cash. And they are going get it because they are practically forcing people to get new phones. They have announced 20 billion to be spent on apple over 4 years and now the new network which will cost who knows how much.
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One thing you need to remember is that this cost is spread out, so about 5bil a year, and sprint is nearing the start of the lightsquared deal, which will PAY sprint money...the figure i can't remember, but I think it was close to that same cost. So effectively, they may only be paying for the network upgrade.
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stilesja said:
They are committing to selling WiMax devices all though next year which implies support for much longer although they currently only have in place agreements with clearwire through the end of next year.
A crazed lady at the end of the call pissed the hesse and others off by questioning that they knew nothing about clearwire potential bankruptcy since they are 54% stake holders in the company. My take away is that sprint plans for Clearwire to fail and take the spectrum for themselves in bankruptcy court.
Oh but the epic 4g touch would take advantage of the 1x advanced 3g technology, but for 4G you are stuck with WiMax.
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That lady was a complete idiot. She argued against sprint spending 6bil on a new LTE network (that's nearly half complete mind you) when it would only take 600mil to upgrade clearwires network to LTE. What she seriously failed to understand is that clearwires total footprint is much less than 1/10th of the projected total footprint that will be covered by sprint's 1900mhz lte, and therefore this is more cost effective. She sounded like a typical misinformed PTA member.
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Just go about your business and buy phones when you need them and stop worrying about this bs and people will come to sprint for the iphone cuz they will want unlimited data. I would not be with another carrier simply because I would go over 2 gb every month and f**k a $200 + every month that's just retarted
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jbadboy2007 said:
Just go about your business and buy phones when you need them and stop worrying about this bs and people will come to sprint for the iphone cuz they will want unlimited data. I would not be with another carrier simply because I would go over 2 gb every month and f**k a $200 + every month that's just retarted
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Sprint just slapped a limit on "wifi tethering" data to 5GB. What makes you think they won't do something similar to "handset" data once iPhone users come crawling around the corner?
I really think that was a step in the wrong direction for Sprint considering what people already pay to get wifi tethering... Now they have to pay the same price and get a big fat limit on their service... Not even grandfathered in to the new policy either

Cuz the unlimited data is the only reason that new iphone users would stay. During the strategy meeting dan hesse said over and over that sprints brand is unlimited data and they are changing the rest of the company to fit that brand. So honestly you have nothing to worry about as far as your phone goes
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stilesja said:
Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.
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people will still come to sprint man. no iphone supports 4g capability at all yet in the US. people will come for the unlimited data and cheaper price plan. i know im adding a line to my account to get one. im no apple fanboy but the phone is pretty sweet so ill have my epic and iphone. Im deff waitin on LTE network to deploy before upgrading my epic tho. pic has ben hands down best phone ive ever had and wouldnt settle for anything without a keyboard

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Cuz the unlimited data is the only reason that new iphone users would stay. During the strategy meeting dan hesse said over and over that sprints brand is unlimited data and they are changing the rest of the company to fit that brand. So honestly you have nothing to worry about as far as your phone goes
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That shut me up. Finally, someone in the community who answers questions instead of snyde comments. Thank you <3