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Okay, so I've been doing some thinking... is Sprint just a bunch of assholes or what? They advertise the EVO as "The first 4G phone", but "plays nicely with 3G as well"... I think that's a load of **** fir the most part. For people like me, where when I looked on the Sprint coverage map for their 3G showed the best quality which is a load of crap.... my 3G speeds are terrible, luckily I have WiFi...but I'm not always home, so therefore it leaves me no choice but to use the horrible 3G that is mine. Voice/phone quality is amazing where I am, but really....if I can't even have decent speeds for 3G it's apparent that 4G may not even come to where I'm at.. it's just depressing, I feel like I'm paying for service that isn't entirely there, some of you may know what I mean...but yeah.. sucky part is that I can't cancel and go with someone else. I've had tmobile for years, never really had a problem with them, the evo was just so appealing...
/endrant
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You had 30 days to decide to keep your phone, you did. Nobody wants to hear you cry about a poor decision you made.
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Hold on let me get my violin
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Get over it u had 30 days u kept the phone so stop ur *****ing
from my phone duh

Interesting.. What are these horrible speeds? I live in the 4g dead zone and average about 1.2mb/s not super fast but it works. Also, Sprint seems to treat people good when you have a legitimate issue and you let them know nicely. Hell, years ago they gave me 25% off my bill when my mogul kept breaking over and over... I used the crap out of it, was wearing out keyboards in weeks. Try to call them, there's nothing we can do for you here.

Not sure where you live but in Arlington, VA I get around 2 Mbps on 3G and 8 on 4G. I agree that you had 30 days to see if you liked the service or not.

jordant2 said:
I can understand what the op is saying BUT, Sprint still has the best overall pricing even after the $10 for no 4g coverage so I can't really complain. My 3g speeds here in the metro Detroit area are not so great though. I get about 700kbps downloads. Not the best but not the worst. I tried T-Mobile and the 3g was about 1.0mbps but the bill was $40 more a month. Not at all worth the trade off for an extra 300kbps. I really only use the evo for streaming pandora and casual surfing so I really don't do a lot of downloading or wifi tethering. But Sprint is by far the best overall service for the price.
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Also in metro Detroit. I was with tmo for 9 years and Sprint's data coverage and speed is a huge improvement along with better pricing. Voice coverage is about the same. I've been with Sprint for about 6 months with no real complaints. Not to mention, yearly upgrades cuz I jumped on a shared plan and they're already premier members.
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I agree with others. You had 30 days, which is more than enough time, to test the network. No carrier has excellent coverage everywhere. They all have dead zones or bad signal areas. If you didn't like the service in your area, why didn't you return the phone within 30 days?
I have no problems, at all, with Sprint. And coming to Sprint from T-Mobile, I can most definitely say that Sprint has the better network.
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MikeSkiX said:
Hold on let me get my violet
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Lol. What's a violet? ;-)
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Are you serious ???
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with GSM). CDMA has just, overall, been better. Problem with the other CDMA (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ

jasonziter said:
Here is how I see it. Alot of it is service area.....for me...T-mobile was great with customer sevice but the MOBILE / Cell service in Naples Florida.....well its spotty and overall sucks ass indoors as does AT&T (I'm thinking this has to do with CDMA). GSM has just, overall been better. Problem with the other GSM (VERIZON) is their plans are a huge rip off and so is the company. Poor customer service and magic bills........just like AT&T. Never had this problem with Sprint so far. I know what I'm getting EACH AND EVERY MONTH. But, on to the lecture.
1. 30 freakin' days. We all knew it. Therefore you could have seen the poor service the first two weeks and bagged the phone and contract.
2. The plan with unlimited data and 750 min to land lines......unlimited to cell networks - 80 bucks (WITH TAX). This includes the 10 $ BS we all pay for (Including myself) to NOT have 4g which is most of us. No one beats that. End of story No mystery 120 bucks to AT&T. I've had em all. Sprint, by far has the best plans for the money. If service in your area sucks......you should have noticed it early on. THAT BEING SAID.................
Enough of my lecturing !!! Here are some things to try if you haven't already.
1. Update your radio - or - try different radios to help your 3g signal, they do make a huge difference.
2. Update your PRI to 1.77
3. Update your profile
4. Update your PRL
-JZ
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umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma

MikeSkiX said:
Hold on let me get my violet
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Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone else plan?
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gqstatus0685 said:
Trolling Fail! He meant to say violin.
Anyway how do you guys know he's not under someone's plan?
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ooopps..
NewZJ said:
umm, att is gsm, verizon and sprint are cdma
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Oppps......lol....flip flop em. Sprint and Verizon = CDMA. AT&T / Tmobile = GSM

Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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so true...

This has to be a joke / trolling
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so true...
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Are you guys trolling. Seriously. There is a 30 day trial period. No questions asked return period. Everyone who signs up with Sprint knows it.
You are either:
A. Trolling
B. Not reading prior posts......ie UBER LAZY (there is only a couple pages)
C. Retarded.
Lets hope its B.

You guys are silly !!!
BrianDigital said:
Guys he has a right to complain Sprint really needs some sort of trail period where u can try.out their service for a month and if it doesn't work for you. You then can get out.
Something like that needs to be in place so we can stop getting these post over something that person has no control over.........wait
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YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
-JZ

jasonziter said:
YO. READ PRIOR POSTS. There's only one page prior to this.
Several of the posts talk about the:
30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD AT SPRINT.
No other company beats this trial period. No questions asked return.
If you are gonna post on XDA.....read at least a couple of pages prior to your post.
-JZ
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Lighten up, Bud ... he was being facetious.

There's a 30 day trial period?

Sprint May Get The iPhone 4?? :0

This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Hoping the paper boy comes by to give me some good newsssss.....
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Dan Hesse would probably get on his knees for the iPhone. $69.99 for the iPhone 4 on the Everything Data plan would take Sprint to new heights.

I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?

Ill get the iphone i used to have it when i was on att

uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You bring up a good point. I can't see how they could justify a $10 fee on a 3G phone. Lets pretend that the iPhone is a sure thing if they want it, I could see them either being greedy as hell and attaching the fee anyway, or not carrying it until there's a 4G version. If it's the latter, you probably wont see a iPhone on Sprint until they (if they every)change to LTE or Apple includes a WiMax version (which is unlikely).

We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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novanosis85 said:
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."

novanosis85 said:
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Hmmm. You might be able to swap the ESN of a Sprint smartphone and get away with it. Of course it'd be illegal to do that.

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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...

edgemaster191 said:
Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.

Award Tour said:
With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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lol not doubting there will be an LTE iPhone, just saying they will make some huge announcement about how it's the greatest thing ever and brand it in someway that will make it look like they developed LTE/4G from the ground up, meanwhile they're the last one to the 4G party

Noiro said:
Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."
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Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.

iceflow420 said:
Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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CDMA doesn't have SIM cards (well at least not here). You have to activate your phone via the carrier and ESN number of the phone. Sprint will only activate ESNs that are in their system (just Sprint phones).

iceflow420 said:
Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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It's easy with gsm phones cuz of sim cards (except the iPhone). We have phone specific esn numbers attached to Sprint's network.
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Award Tour said:
With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.

uniquenameevo said:
The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.
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That's the iPhone product cycle in general. There were probably a ton of people who bought AT&T iPhone 4's today despite the looming unveiling of the iPhone 5.

Funny how my thread got epically trashed by noobs and trolls, yet this thread that is discussing the same thing seems clean. inb4 trolls log on and start acting like retards.
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
The only reason ESN was even made illegal was to stop people siphoning money from the companies and such, but since you own both the device and the service plan, i dont think they can do anything to you. And im pretty sure if the cdma iphone were to be dropped, it would be unlocked within matter of hours, and then modified for sprint and all the other cdma services within a matter of days.
What i want to know, is if someone can actually hardmod the phone to enable sprint wimax, or verizon lte on it? (most likely not since iOS is closed source, but still possible)

Last-Chance said:
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
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Changing the ESN is a very gray area. BUT changing the operating frequency of a transmitter is a whole other ball of wax(which you would going between Sprint, and Verizon or AT&T, and T-Mobile. Once you change the operating frequency that the transmitter was certified for it loses it's FCC Type Acceptance. It is no longer in the eyes of the FCC a legal phone. Now doing it to equipment on bands outside the cellphone allocations the FCC really doesn't monitor, or enforce unless someone complains. Fart around on aircraft, cellphone, and govt/military you will be paid a very personal visit by an FCC agent (and in this day and age the local swat team, and reps from various three lettered agencies).
FYI the only FCC licensed radio operator that can modify transmitters (or build for their personal use) for operation (within spec) on their allocated frequencies are Radio Amateurs. Once that radio has been modded it can no longer be used outside the Radio Amateur Bands.

The true end of the G1 and MT3G????

Since at&t is buying out T-Mobile, just Google it I'm not posting links, is this the true end of our phones because at&t said all 3G phones will need to be upgraded to support their towers and speed they will provide. In addition what are everyone's thoughts on the matter?? It seems like we'll all min the USA have to buy new phones BC they probably wont do the upgrade for free xD
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You don't have to change anything unless ATT drops 2G.

I don't think it will be the end of our phones the 3G upgrades may come over the air or we may have to go old school & actually have to get firmware upgrades in the shop. I don't really think T-Mobile is much slower than At&t, after all, T-Mobile pushed the GSM network in the US, which made everyone else play catch up, since GSM was already in the EU for several years prior. Anyway, as long as we have XDA & the great people giving us Froyo & Gingerbread for our G1/Dreams & MT3G(which we were never meant to have in the 1st place), we will never be too far behind...I hope.
Just my 2 cents...
AT&T motto: If you can't beat `em, buy `em!

Its not necessarily a software issue because At&t said that themselves that all 3G phones will eventually have to be replaced to handle the new network.. AKA moving everyone to 4G and more expensive plans lol..
If they're going to pay for the upgrades themselves im all fine and for it bring on the new phones for development, and they keep our plans i will be extremely happy!
But if we have to get new phones and new contracts a lot of people will probably drop them. I know i cant get the deal i have now ANY where else for as keep.. Unlimited data, texts and 750 shared mins bt two phones for 100 bucks a month. not bad in my opinion.

3g phones are supposed to fail. Get a 4g phone. I heard T-Mobile customers will get iPhones somewhere but wouldn't count on that coming to pass. I'll get the pyramid if it hits T-Mobile in may like reported by T-Mobile news. Just ride the train and see what happens. If u get robbed bail out. My 2¢ anyway
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johnson8cyl said:
3g phones are supposed to fail. Get a 4g phone. I heard T-Mobile customers will get iPhones somewhere but wouldn't count on that coming to pass. I'll get the pyramid if it hits T-Mobile in may like reported by T-Mobile news. Just ride the train and see what happens. If u get robbed bail out. My 2¢ anyway
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Agreed, 100%. If the ride is still good, stay on it. If get start getting bad, jump ship.

Read unofficial t-mo news. Front page. Great info and perspective there. U might be able to get a new phone now and run the contract out before it affects u. I'm getting the HTC pyramid and riding this out regardless
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jr10000 said:
Unlimited data, texts and 750 shared mins bt two phones for 100 bucks a month. not bad in my opinion.
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I wet into a AT&T store today and there data line for "unlimited" is $45 a month with out tethering it was around $65-$70 with tethering (guys at the store were as helpfull as a bricked phone and didnt tell me much), (i currently pay $40 with tethering) ontop of your standared plans... to get a plan like yours (also mine) would cost us around $150 or more, im just hopin that we will be able to keep our plans how we have them due to the "grandfathering" law, not sure if it is covered from a buy out though...
Something for us all to look into i guess and see what we come up with

I got a feeling that the govt isn't going to allow it. There seems to be a lot of media attention lately as to how it will hurt consumers. Mergers like this are not necessarily a done deal.

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I got a feeling that the govt isn't going to allow it. There seems to be a lot of media attention lately as to how it will hurt consumers. Mergers like this are not necessarily a done deal.
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It is when companies own the Supreme Court.

So I am about to get booted off of my parents plan (college kid) come may. Would it be a smart option to buy a tmobile plan right now hoping that their prices wont increase with the potential merger? I have heard their plans are cheaper..
I am using an unlocked g1 on at&t right now- and I havent had much problem with at&t- I think all cell phones companies are low grade scammers... I do not use any data, just wifi, and probably text 500/month, talk 500/month..
thought?

I talked to a few tmobile people and they all say that the plan you currently have will remain the same price IF the merge happens

stick wit tmobile. tmobile will still carry out their prices. the two companies merged. which is great cuz HTC and other phone companies wont have to make exclusive phones for Tmobile etc. it will be available to both companies. so we get benefit of the new phones.

If noticed on alot of 3g and 4g phones are already set up for at&t aswell as t-mobile so im really not seeing a issue with the buy out except maybe a new sim card.
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f1vel66a said:
If noticed on alot of 3g and 4g phones are already set up for at&t aswell as t-mobile so im really not seeing a issue with the buy out except maybe a new sim card.
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Well actually I started with cingular back like 6 years ago before they were bought by at&t.. And i am still using the same cingular SIM card =) I love it, probably one of the few cingular sim cards left.. so perhaps tmobile peps will keep their tmobile sim cards when the merger is offic.

From what they're saying when the towers get swapped it will be lte service and the current 3g 4g phones won't be compatible. I guess we'll see. All speculation at this point
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From what they're saying when the towers get swapped it will be lte service and the current 3g 4g phones won't be compatible. I guess we'll see. All speculation at this point
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Welk consider this..
Att phones currentlt work in tmobile and tmobile works on att so with that said if att changes anything they will cause priblems on there own network and phones. I dont for see any problems as ive already said before look in youre APN's you can already choose att or tmobile as a carrier atleast on all my phones

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Well actually I started with cingular back like 6 years ago before they were bought by at&t.. And i am still using the same cingular SIM card =) I love it, probably one of the few cingular sim cards left.. so perhaps tmobile peps will keep their tmobile sim cards when the merger is offic.
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Tmobile sim cards suck I will move to a att one myself. I never had a problem with them but tmobile ive gone through three in less then a year.

at and t owns us and i hate it

With the merger no one needs to upgrade phones. If ppl read tmo's news, at&t pretty much just wants tmo's 4g capable towers and servers. If the merger Goes threw at&t will pretty much be selling world phones (phones that's will support tmos 17 & 21 hundred 3/4g bands and att bands).. all in all they just want the real 4g capable towers tmo has ..
PS ... my 2cents... the merger ain't good for no one.. monopoly ain't good! (Damn bush for reallowing monopolyzation)
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[Q] IPhone to sprint?

I was at a sprint store this weekend and one of the reps. there told that sprint might get the iPhone at thebend of the year. Can anyone confirm this?

There is no official confirmation but it is a rumor that Apple is going to release an iPhone 4S at the end of August that will also be on Sprint and T-Mobile. We will see.
I personally don't think Sprint's network could handle it.

That's the rumor. It's not confirmed by any stretch of the imagination, but from Apple's standpoint, it makes a lot of sense. Apple is getting beat in the US by Android, and wants some of those Android sales. Plus, it looks like the next iPhone will have both radios (gsm/cdma), so it can release one phone for all networks. Now, whether you could unlock the phone to go from Sprint to AT&T, or Verizon will remain to be seen...assuming the rumors of a Sprint and T-Mobile iPhone are true...

God, I hope not. Sprint's 3G data is slow enough as it is, I can only imagine how an iPhone would perform on it. So unless they're planning on ramping up their 4G game or signing some major roaming agreements nationwide, might as well stick w/ an open-source Android!

Besides an android is so much more better than an iPhone. Why would you want that garbage?
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Pffft. A Sprint rep also told me we'd have 4G in Des Moines this year
^ Shift Faced

Not to change the thread, but I read on an official source that sprint is taking their 4G from wimax to LTE. Which is better and faster 4G data.
Evo SHIFT

A sprint rep told me the other day that obama was doing an awesome job.......

Ha
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Enraged21 said:
Not to change the thread, but I read on an official source that sprint is taking their 4G from wimax to LTE. Which is better and faster 4G data.
Evo SHIFT
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I think this is based on their recent announcement of a partnership with Lightsquared, but I don't think it means WiMax goes away completely, it just gives them greater 4G coverage. They're keeping their options open, that is for sure.
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I guess only time will tell.

ummmm why are we talking about crappy iphones in the shift section???????????

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ummmm why are we talking about crappy iphones in the shift section???????????
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3g isn't slow on sprint, I get a full meg of speed on 3g, and 8megs on 4g here in Minneapolis.

danibri82 said:
3g isn't slow on sprint, I get a full meg of speed on 3g, and 8megs on 4g here in Minneapolis.
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well good for flipping you lol the rest of us are lucky to get 100kbp grrrr sprint needs to step up

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3g isn't slow on sprint, I get a full meg of speed on 3g, and 8megs on 4g here in Minneapolis.
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I get an average of 500k down and 350k up, 2 hours south of Minneapolis.

craven667 said:
well good for flipping you lol the rest of us are lucky to get 100kbp grrrr sprint needs to step up
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In Des Moines, IA I average about 700kbps on 3G. No 4G tho.
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Sprint bought out.

Hey everyone just saw the articles all over tech sites about softbanks majority takeover of Sprint Nextel and since this is the HTC EVO 4G OG section and most (certainly not all) are currently or have in the past Been with Sprint, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the issue. Good move? Why? Bad move why? Will it help bring Sprint life? Future of Simply Everything plans? Talk it up just keep it civil and friendly.
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Pretty sure this thread belongs elsewhere. Here is a link to the story. Doesn't sound as though the deal is done, as you implied.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...al-to-buy-70-percent-of-sprint-for-20-billion
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FinZ28 said:
Pretty sure this thread belongs elsewhere. Here is a link to the story. Doesn't sound as though the deal is done, as you implied.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...al-to-buy-70-percent-of-sprint-for-20-billion
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There's a newer article out. Reporting it is indeed finished and should be announced today. I'll find the link. But apologies if this doesn't belong I see much more "off topic threads" here Luke I want a GS3 blah blah figure this is somewhat on topic. As the OG EVO WAS a Sprint exclusive and so at one point every EVO was configured or running on Sprint. While I'm sure many of them (me for one) are still on Sprint and this could have a large impact on people. Again if I violated anything a MOD can surely close this or move it to where it belongs.
Here is the link: Japan’s Softbank to Acquire Majority Stake in Sprint for $20B http://mashable.com/2012/10/14/softbank-to-acquire-sprint/
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Gotcha. I stand corrected.
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I think this is a great thing for Sprint on the short term, kind of skeptical if it will be good for us consumers in the long run. I also find it somewhat sad that one company that has some sizeable debt, has just purchased a controlling share in another company with even greater debt, and I believe must of had to make this deal on credit.... Wish I could do that ****, dem bastards... :banghead:
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jamieg71 said:
I think this is a great thing for Sprint on the short term, kind of skeptical if it will be good for us consumers in the long run. I also find it somewhat sad that one company that has some sizeable debt, has just purchased a controlling share in another company with even greater debt, and I believe must of had to make this deal on credit.... Wish I could do that ****, dem bastards... :banghead:
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Yea I'm leaning the same way after more looking into. Hopefully this can be the influx of cash Sprint needs to.build the new networks faster and start drawing more customers. I just hope they keep the simply everything plans. I think that's a big plus for them. If they can't use this to get going again then nothing will.
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SuperiorEVOlution18 said:
Yea I'm leaning the same way after more looking into. Hopefully this can be the influx of cash Sprint needs to.build the new networks faster and start drawing more customers. I just hope they keep the simply everything plans. I think that's a big plus for them. If they can't use this to get going again then nothing will.
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This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.

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This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.
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Agreed most people agree the up front cash will allow them to build out the LTE network faster. Which is good. Hopefully the broader the 4G range 3g speeds will improve as well since less traffic.
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Not 'finished'....
BTW, this is LONG from 'finished', this is just the announcement of the agreement... there's still a LONG due diligence period that is only now starting along with required regulatory reviews. I doubt this will be 'finished' until 2nd quarter 2013, if not later.

AzzidReign said:
This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.
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You get what you pay for. Sprint's 4G is lacking and so is their 3G speeds. Getting consistent performance is out of question. Yeah the data is unlimited but that's it. Verizon has family share plans for $40/phone and shared data starting at $50/month. You could spend anywhere from $15-35 a month depending upon your data usage but Verizon at least in Los Angeles is worth every penny. Sprint will be nowhere near that kind of coverage for the next couple of years and I am tired of signing contracts based on promises of better data.

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You get what you pay for. Sprint's 4G is lacking and so is their 3G speeds. Getting consistent performance is out of question. Yeah the data is unlimited but that's it. Verizon has family share plans for $40/phone and shared data starting at $50/month. You could spend anywhere from $15-35 a month depending upon your data usage but Verizon at least in Los Angeles is worth every penny. Sprint will be nowhere near that kind of coverage for the next couple of years and I am tired of signing contracts based on promises of better data.
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Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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jamieg71 said:
Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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I'm guessing those 4G speeds are on your EVO LTE?

FinZ28 said:
I'm guessing those 4G speeds are on your EVO LTE?
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Yessir
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I read on Engadget today that Sprint bought like 50.8% of Clearwire. I wonder if our how that affects this deal

I hope that by buying half of clearwire, it improves 3g speeds.
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jamieg71 said:
Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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Whatever works for you man. I guess Sprint has Independence covered like a blanket I guess. BTW, each phone on the shared plan with Verizon gives you a good idea where you stand on data. If you feel you're about to go over, you can go to the next level.
I've been with Sprint for a long time and really wish the 4G coverage was better but when you lose to metropcs in a major market then that is a problem.

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I read on Engadget today that Sprint bought like 50.8% of Clearwire. I wonder if our how that affects this deal
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I'm pretty sure Softbank wanted Sprint to be in control of clearwire as per the agreement. But like it was mentioned the Grand ole Government still has to give the ok for this so it'll be at least 6+ months.
I also have to side with Jamie here I had Verizon for a while (pre-smartphone days) and their service was great but lately as a huge Root fan I'd never go back. They are locking down the bootloaders on so many of the best devices like he SG3 and another one I'm forgetting but they have plans to lockdown more in the future. And while Sprint isn't the biggest Root supporter they at least leave that door unlocked. nd once they get the LTE network built out speeds WILL improve, we already have it here in Baltimore and my buddies Gnex is pulling a consistent 20-25mb/sec which for us Sprint users is Freaking a god send lol. Combine that will never having to worry about Data which I use about 5-7 gb/month I'm sticking right there with them. Until they are a huge success or die off lol
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Cool story! I dropped sprint strictly because coverage in my area was very spotty. I have no regrets about it and if they fixed the network I'd go back in a heart beat...I just got tired of hearing about how my market was always next in line...blah blah blah. I also have no issue with verizon. The phone I picked was easily unlocked... that is more research based..all carriers should have a Google phone that can be unlocked. Data is not an issue...WiFi is every where anyways...even at the gym. I pay just as much now as I did with sprint... but dont drop calls...and since I am military and have a wife at home with my kids...an on demand call is a must. I also know Verizon has the better freq. Band... sure in the higher MHz you will get faster speeds..but the coverage area isn't as big...its all give and take. I am rooting for sprint...but just got tired of waiting....I love capitalism and choice...so I switched to who I feel deserved my money!
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bigbear6708 said:
Cool story! I dropped sprint strictly because coverage in my area was very spotty. I have no regrets about it and if they fixed the network I'd go back in a heart beat...I just got tired of hearing about how my market was always next in line...blah blah blah. I also have no issue with verizon. The phone I picked was easily unlocked... that is more research based..all carriers should have a Google phone that can be unlocked. Data is not an issue...WiFi is every where anyways...even at the gym. I pay just as much now as I did with sprint... but dont drop calls...and since I am military and have a wife at home with my kids...an on demand call is a must. I also know Verizon has the better freq. Band... sure in the higher MHz you will get faster speeds..but the coverage area isn't as big...its all give and take. I am rooting for sprint...but just got tired of waiting....I love capitalism and choice...so I switched to who I feel deserved my money!
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All very good reasons to switch. Yea I'd rank Verizon over ATT&t but the those locked bootloaders. I havent checking in a while but the locked sgs3 was a huge ordeal being locked. That kinda thing makes me mad. It's OUR Devices not the carriers and if I want to root then I have that right.
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On my og I get 5-10 mb in a town near my house which is unblievable :what:
Edit: sorry lol the 15-19mb is from my LTE in Chicago
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