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Verizon kicks Sprints ass

Anyone surprised? Wimax blew from the getgo.
phandroid.com/2011/04/01/in-series-of-1000-speed-tests-verizon-lte-topples-sprint-wimax-for-4g-supremacy/

rockky said:
Anyone surprised? Wimax blew from the getgo.
phandroid.com/2011/04/01/in-series-of-1000-speed-tests-verizon-lte-topples-sprint-wimax-for-4g-supremacy/
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5 people per city use LTE.
Come back when LTE is used to the degree of Wimax.
Thanks for playing.

mattykinsx said:
5 people per city use LTE.
Come back when LTE is used to the degree of Wimax.
Thanks for playing.
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lol i have to agree

Three years worth of people versus 2 months? My 2011 ferrari is faster than your 2007
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Verizon can suck my b***s. I don't judge good service by download speeds sorry. That's what I have 30mbit internet for. Sprint has treated me well for the past 9 years. Ill never leave!
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fr0st420 said:
Verizon can suck my b***s. I don't judge good service by download speeds sorry. That's what I have 30mbit internet for. Sprint has treated me well for the past 9 years. Ill never leave!
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This.
I'm more than happy with my EVO and Sprint service

Regardless....Wimax S U C K S.

As long as my EVO's working smoothly, I'm happy.

rockky said:
Regardless....Wimax S U C K S.
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Because of FCC regulation.

Verizon is top dog. They just are.
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Rob the plumber said:
Verizon is top dog. They just are.
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Depends on you define 'top dog'.
I feel it necessary to remind everyone that these same bandwidth speeds were seen with Wimax on Sprint with people's Evos as soon as it was released.
But we can't use facts and past knowledge in this forum.

I like Sprint....their 4G network is a crock. T-Mobile is faster most the time on 3G.
As much as I'm sold on Evo 3D....amazingly (to me) its balanced pretty evenly against this patchy unreliable network. (And I'd pay more in a heartbeat for the best combination of network and Device). Right now Sprint's been resting on their original 4G hype/bust...and there far back in the race.
Here's hoping they knew that ages ago and are ready for significant upgrades.

I feel it necessary to remind everyone that these same bandwidth speeds were seen with Wimax on Sprint with people's Evos as soon as it was released.
Ah never here in Chicago (think 10G was tops... and in buildings? Like where we live here for 6 months? ****...leave it off.
Colleague here with TBolt ...smack in middle of Merchandise Mart :always 5-10Mg.
Sprint's been stepping up there game no doubt...but have to address this....cause this crys gonna get loud. The strength of their upcoming devices will probably barely overshadow it for the Evo crowd tho.
Not here... so far anyway...

rockky said:
I feel it necessary to remind everyone that these same bandwidth speeds were seen with Wimax on Sprint with people's Evos as soon as it was released.
Ah never here in Chicago (think 10G was tops... and in buildings? Like where we live here for 6 months? ****...leave it off.
Colleague here with TBolt ...smack in middle of Merchandise Mart :always 5-10Mg.
Sprint's been stepping up there game no doubt...but have to address this....cause this crystal gonna get loud. The strength of their upcoming devices will probably barely overshadow it for the Evo crowd tho.
Not here... so far anyway...
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10G? huh?
It's been discussed why WiMax sucks in buildings....FCC restriction on the lower bands.

@Roccky
Man you must have sad life posting down Sprint thread on a Friday night.
Go out meet a pretty girl talk your carrier crap to her.
Oh and loose that AT&T carrier label it brings bad memory's to many that were on that pathetic network.

That's great. once I get my closed source 512 ram .7 mpx front facing camera ipad2. Till then, my evo, which AVERAGES 8 mbps in Arcadia ca and my ASUS G73jh 16gb ram (i know, overkill) 128 kingston ssd/500 seagate 7200 rpm dual internal hardrive, intel 740 qm etc, TETHERED to my evo, is just fine. Did I mention unlimited data?
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Randy D said:
That's great. once I get my closed source 512 ram .7 mpx front facing camera ipad2. Till then, my evo, which AVERAGES 8 mbps in Arcadia ca and my ASUS G73jh 16gb ram (i know, overkill) 128 kingston ssd/500 seagate 7200 rpm dual internal hardrive, intel 740 qm etc, TETHERED to my evo, is just fine. Did I mention unlimited data?
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Unthrottled too.

Exactly
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Rob the plumber said:
Verizon is top dog. They just are.
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Not sure about top "dog", top "dollar" sounds more like it.
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The title of this thread says it all!
Verizon's 3g is faster than Sprint 4g WiMax. Therefore;
Verizon's 4g LTE is much faster than Sprints 4g WiMax.
The Thunderbolt is dominating the Evo, I've seen a screenshot of a 1.8 ghz oc of the Thunderbolt scoring 3k on quadrant.
Yes, the Evo 3D is the best phone on the face of the Earth hardware-wise so far, but once Verizon gets enough people on they're LTE they're gonna be releasing they're own HTC Pyramid. Besides, personal experience, I'm not happy with my Sprint Service. At all.

Sprint switcing from Wimax

Well as many of you read on Engadget about Sprint switching from WiMax to LTE. Well naturally being curious, while I was stopping by my parents house on the way home I asked my dad who worked in telecom for most of my life doing contract work for Sprint. He now has since moved out telecom to some other department, but he still keeps up with his telecom friends who do contracting work for Sprint. Anyways back to the point I asked if these rumors were true. He said Yes they are switching from WiMax, but not to what and that Samsung is providing the equipment. If i find out anymore information I will let you know.

i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?

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i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?
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Everything would still work on the phone but the 4G LTE.

There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.

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There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.
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but does this mean that they are going to stop expanding the 4g network, and focus only on getting LTE up in more places? this is kind of a kick in the balls for people who just bought 4g capable devices with sprint.

They'll probably continue to expand and run Wimax on 2.5 Ghz and run LTE in parallel on 850 Mhz.

The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?

Bukem75 said:
The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?
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Yes, but you can't swap out the hardware in your phone from wimax to LTE.

So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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mbaseball3 said:
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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By the time this is completed, the Evo will be obsolete.

mbaseball3 said:
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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No lol.. i am sure if you have 4g service you would still get it.

No offense but you have like 5 posts Including 2 in this thread, and you've been a member here just as long as I have pretty much...I'll believe it when I see it, and as ruge said, the evo will be the compare to as the nextel chirp phones back in the day and the razor, obsolete, trust me, no evo will have lte

the Evo 2A will have lte, I promise

Edit: I am changing this because I read this post wrong. You are right they are about to use Samsung products on the new towers but its not to change wimax, it is to make the towers more efficient and smaller. From what I was told they will use new technology which will allow them to add all services on one tower and be able to free up frequency to build out. It would not be imho to drop wimax because they will be the only ones to utilize it giving them an advantage in developing. Back on topic he is correct they are making upgrades and using new hardware within the towers but I think its imho to have voice/data simultaneous on a cdma network (a first) and they will do it with wimax 2 starting 2012...(that is just my opinion)

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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gamer4208 said:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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yes it will be BOTH, in years from now, which will be = 2 the razr in todays age

craigbailey1986 said:
This is complete bs as I know 2 top engineers working for sprint and neither have heard such news.... now I usually don't feed into this he say/she say because it won't change a thing but please don't spread speculations amongst the forum without having concrete facts. Sprint also stated recently they were keeping there 800 spectrum and making upgrades to it for business who utilize the "ptt" phones and not using it for lte. All it takes is a little reading....
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I believe I know the article you are referring to as it was in another thread on here and discussed the new PTT service they will use once IDEN is turned off and it will include more speeds and the likes for data.
The way I took the article was that the new PTT phones will take advantage of the new network upgrade they are performing i think its called Sprints Network vision. The multimode base-stations will be the key to it all.
In the end the change allows them to use all the networks more interchangably from what I understand.
I would not expect them to keep the 800MHz band for CDMA PTT. they stated that CDMA PTT phones will be out late this year and if thats the case and they were planning on having them run on the IDEN 800MHz band wouldn't IDEN need to be shut off first? I take it as the CDMA PTT phones will run on the regular network and use data form the 800MHz once they deploy LTE on that. they can't put WiMax on the 800MHz b/c WiMax isn't provisioned in that spectrum at this point.

As I stated in my edited reply it would not make sense to use technology the others are using because it would not make good marketing. Also wimax 2 will be out second quarter or half this year, can't recall, and around the exact same time frame for those new phones. Also the new hardware being supplied to sprint and their new plan is at the core of what wimax 2 is. Which is stated to give better download speed and efficiency thru multi data channels. The company supplying the hardware, Samsung, also The first company to test wimax 2 and said it got 130mbs download, but that's with no one else testing it. But you get the picture.... I hope
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My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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dirkyd3rk said:
My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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Sorry to hear that... I also don't get good signal in certain places but hey each carrier has bad spots, when I am in the studio some artist who have iPhone or att don't have any service while myself and engineer have full bars, though he has Verizon
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Lightsquared LTE

http://www.talkandroid.com/49332-sp...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
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I bet part of this was to stay competitive in the future iPhone market. I know there's only slight hints for an iPhone on Sprint, but I can feel it coming.The iPhone 5 will probably "only" be HSPA+ ready, but next year I'm sure it will be LTE ready. I very much doubt that Apple would build a WiMax version of the iPhone for only Sprint, and with Sprint's future looking bleak, they need every competitive advantage they can get.

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Ok it is my good sir
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Award Tour said:
I bet part of this was to stay competitive in the future iPhone market. I know there's only slight hints for an iPhone on Sprint, but I can feel it coming.The iPhone 5 will probably "only" be HSPA+ ready, but next year I'm sure it will be LTE ready. I very much doubt that Apple would build a WiMax version of the iPhone for only Sprint, and with Sprint's future looking bleak, they need every competitive advantage they can get.
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That could definitely be a reason. Steve Jobs wouldn't approve a WiMax iPhone.
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Well they need to something and i doubt its because of the iphone... Sure sprint has wimax but it Really can't compete with verizon LTE and the sprint 3g network is really slow compared to every other carrier... I am really curious to hear what they have planned... I want to be a sprint customer but i won't jump ship untill i can get consistently fast speeds like i have on tmobile
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newspeak said:
Well they need to something and i doubt its because of the iphone... Sure sprint has wimax but it Really can't compete with verizon LTE and the sprint 3g network is really slow compared to every other carrier... I am really curious to hear what they have planned... I want to be a sprint customer but i won't jump ship untill i can get consistently fast speeds like i have on tmobile
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Their 3G was top notch for a while and LTE and WiMax would both be ****ty on the 2500 spectrum WiMax is on right now. LTE from light squares is going on 1600
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But think about this. They are not going to be sinking any more money into Wimax now to expand it. And they are starting from scratch for LTE. By the time they even have enough LTE as they do Wimax (which still is not a lot) everyone else is going to be done building their LTE network. So basically Sprint is not going to have a good 4G network now for at least 4-5 years. So everyone get used to your slow data speeds. We are gonna have em for a while. Yay, way to go Sprint.

violent23 said:
But think about this. They are not going to be sinking any more money into Wimax now to expand it. And they are starting from scratch for LTE. By the time they even have enough LTE as they do Wimax (which still is not a lot) everyone else is going to be done building their LTE network. So basically Sprint is not going to have a good 4G network now for at least 4-5 years. So everyone get used to your slow data speeds. We are gonna have em for a while. Yay, way to go Sprint.
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Your basing all this on the mistaken notion that Sprint is going to start building an LTE network from scratch starting right now.
Lightsquared has been working on this for a while and should launch next year.
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violent23 said:
But think about this. They are not going to be sinking any more money into Wimax now to expand it. And they are starting from scratch for LTE. By the time they even have enough LTE as they do Wimax (which still is not a lot) everyone else is going to be done building their LTE network. So basically Sprint is not going to have a good 4G network now for at least 4-5 years. So everyone get used to your slow data speeds. We are gonna have em for a while. Yay, way to go Sprint.
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They're not stopping their wimax network if that's what you think
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they have a contarct to use clears wimax until 2012, they said ages ago, to switch from wimax to lte takes 1 module added onto the tower, so a year tops to convert wimax locations to lte locations

Award Tour said:
I bet part of this was to stay competitive in the future iPhone market. I know there's only slight hints for an iPhone on Sprint, but I can feel it coming.The iPhone 5 will probably "only" be HSPA+ ready, but next year I'm sure it will be LTE ready. I very much doubt that Apple would build a WiMax version of the iPhone for only Sprint, and with Sprint's future looking bleak, they need every competitive advantage they can get.
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Apple Exec's and Sprint Exec's do not like each other at all. Apple thinks Sprint is a 2nd rate wireless company going down the tubes. Sprint would not be willing to pay their royalty clauses that Apple wants. You like Iphone 4 or 5 you need to go to Verizon or At&T. Samsung & HTC phones have gotten so much better. It is real competition now to Apple. Until the relationship is repaired you will never see an Iphone on Sprint.

shabbypenguin said:
they have a contarct to use clears wimax until 2012, they said ages ago, to switch from wimax to lte takes 1 module added onto the tower, so a year tops to convert wimax locations to lte locations
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sounds good but now i wonder if people are going to hold off on current phones and future phones waiting for LTE Models i doubt it but it could hurt a bit

Award Tour said:
I bet part of this was to stay competitive in the future iPhone market. I know there's only slight hints for an iPhone on Sprint, but I can feel it coming.The iPhone 5 will probably "only" be HSPA+ ready, but next year I'm sure it will be LTE ready. I very much doubt that Apple would build a WiMax version of the iPhone for only Sprint, and with Sprint's future looking bleak, they need every competitive advantage they can get.
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Wish I could have profits in the billions and a loss of less than a billion and have my outlook bleak
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cdw9800 said:
sounds good but now i wonder if people are going to hold off on current phones and future phones waiting for LTE Models i doubt it but it could hurt a bit
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I plan on switching to an LTE phone as soon as its available on Sprint. I live and work in the dallas area and their wimax coverage sucks here.
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Sprint LTE Confirmed by the End of 2012

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Right on time for my 2 upgrades in July...c'mon on physical keyboard GSIII w/LTE!
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So is there a map somewhere that shows Sprint's LTE tower upgrade progress??? I am wondering if I will have 4G in my area ever. Obviously I know I will need a new phone, I am just curious how large their LTE network is and is going to be.

Milkman00 said:
So is there a map somewhere that shows Sprint's LTE tower upgrade progress??? I am wondering if I will have 4G in my area ever. Obviously I know I will need a new phone, I am just curious how large their LTE network is and is going to be.
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They want to cover the country by 2013. It states to reach 250 million potential subscribers. There are only 300 million Americans so.......
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At least in my area I just got WiMax, which has been available for a year just one mile away from me, but stopped short of my house. Now I get a 4G signal at my home, and 3G has improved speed wise (over 1.5 Mbps DL consistently) as well, so I think they have definitely been doing tower upgrades.

They want to expand to the size of Verizon's 4G LTE network, which is about to turn a year old. It will take twice as long as it took Verizon, but for a small carrier, this is a big accomplishment.

Will this improve existing 4g?

TechSr06 said:
Will this improve existing 4g?
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No that is seperate. They have been improving the WiMax network. I can get 4G in the towns surrounding me now when I could barely get it at home months ago.
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Will this improve existing 4g?
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Clearwire just go an infusion of new cash, so there will probably be minor improvements to the existing 4G Wimax, but mostly just maintenance. The focus is now on LTE.

kennyglass123 said:
They want to cover the country by 2013. It states to reach 250 million potential subscribers. There are only 300 million Americans so.......
.... so i will still not be getting it. lol
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this shows what updates happened in your area 6months ago, and what the next 6months:
https://network.sprint.com/
its for 3G, but its an start.

so i guess this wont be the big January announcement then.

Are there any leaks of a QWERTY Android phone for Sprint coming out soon???

Just wondering. My contract doesn't expire until October (so I can get a phone in August), but I haven't heard of any new QWERTY Android phones that are even close to the Epic.

I would say no. I don't think slider keyboard phones are a major push for sprint. I know samsung released an lte updated epic 4g call d705 I think on verizon. Still single core but no longer galaxy s.... so street creed lost their...
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I would say no. I don't think slider keyboard phones are a major push for sprint. I know samsung released an lte updated epic 4g call d705 I think on verizon. Still single core but no longer galaxy s.... so street creed lost their...
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that's the Stratosphere and its not the D705 its the SCH-i405 and is similar in specs except for its depth and Bluetooth 3.0 versus our 2.1 and not to mention DLNA.

Very disappointing I guess.
Although there is a lot of time between now and August, so maybe I will be surprised... :/

Yes, right now Sprint is only advertising to LTE phones, the Galaxy Nexus and LG Optimus S (or something LG). Once LTE starts the 2nd wave between May and December there will be a lot more LTE phones announced.

Epic 2 is still a POSSIBLE keyboard phone, but nobody knows specs
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Epic 2 is still a POSSIBLE keyboard phone, but nobody knows specs
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I found this stating it may be released for their prepaid line:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/01/30/samsung-epic-2-may-be-flagship-pre-paid-phone-for-sprint/

kennyglass123 said:
Yes, right now Sprint is only advertising to LTE phones, the Galaxy Nexus and LG Optimus S (or something LG). Once LTE starts the 2nd wave between May and December there will be a lot more LTE phones announced.
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Which is stupid because LTE hasn't even rolled out yet so who knows because even reps from sprint dont want to spill any info because they haven't even received the products.

LTE is suppose to be in like 70 cites by the end of the year so I'm excited to see what happens I don't even have wimax close to my area which sucks but I'm still happy with my phome
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crazymadbaby said:
LTE is suppose to be in like 70 cites by the end of the year so I'm excited to see what happens I don't even have wimax close to my area which sucks but I'm still happy with my phome
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where are you getting your information from? by this quater or next the 1st rollout for LTE is Atlanta, Baltimore, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, Kansas City.
and because sprint is still fixing verizon towers well i doubt there will be 70 cities its probably the main major cities and wont be done till 2013 end of it so basically 2014. maybe by the end of this year they'll have 30 possible cities.

XxLostSoulxX said:
where are you getting your information from? by this quater or next the 1st rollout for LTE is Atlanta, Baltimore, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, Kansas City.
and because sprint is still fixing verizon towers well i doubt there will be 70 cities its probably the main major cities and wont be done till 2013 end of it so basically 2014. maybe by the end of this year they'll have 30 possible cities.
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Each area listed in the rollout really encompasses many cities. For instance in wave 2 starting in May it lists Orlando but clicking on that link you find Orlando really includes about 8-10 cities including Daytona and Holly Hill where I live. So that is what is meant by 70 cities by the end of 2012.
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kennyglass123 said:
Each area listed in the rollout really encompasses many cities. For instance in wave 2 starting in May it lists Orlando but clicking on that link you find Orlando really includes about 8-10 cities including Daytona and Holly Hill where I live. So that is what is meant by 70 cities by the end of 2012.
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oh i see what your saying I'm talking about major cities haha.

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I found this stating it may be released for their prepaid line:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/01/30/samsung-epic-2-may-be-flagship-pre-paid-phone-for-sprint/
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What a bummer. They actually put the same processor too -.-
If i really want a new phone, i get the gnex, but maybe ill just save up for the psvita w/3g n play with that lol
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i would wait to see if the epic 2 comes out instead on prepaid. or you could root your phone like i did and place cyanogenmod 9 on my phone. I have my phone on revol wireless. I have heard of some people having the epic 4g og on boost and virgin but not really sure how they did that... I would be nice if they placed phones like the epic and evo 3d type of specs on the pre paid side as well....

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i would wait to see if the epic 2 comes out instead on prepaid. or you could root your phone like i did and place cyanogenmod 9 on my phone. I have my phone on revol wireless. I have heard of some people having the epic 4g og on boost and virgin but not really sure how they did that... I would be nice if they placed phones like the epic and evo 3d type of specs on the pre paid side as well....
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Still wouldnt pay for the "epic" with just a better screen.
AOKP MS4 CM9, *goes all day without charging phone *

It'd be a real dilemma to have to subsist on 3G (which is pathetic in many Sprint areas) when getting an LTE phone if all you have is WiMax 4G in your area for the foreseeable future. I hope I can make it to the end of 2012 with the Epic, letting my contract expire and so on. Lot of uncertainty with Sprint these days, although I'd like to stick with them if I can.

When are we getting a slider? The real question should be when are we getting ANY new phone lol. We are in a major phone drought right now while everyone waits for the lte rollout. Ugh...
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DroidApprentice said:
It'd be a real dilemma to have to subsist on 3G (which is pathetic in many Sprint areas) when getting an LTE phone if all you have is WiMax 4G in your area for the foreseeable future. I hope I can make it to the end of 2012 with the Epic, letting my contract expire and so on. Lot of uncertainty with Sprint these days, although I'd like to stick with them if I can.
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If VZW had a decent slider, I would have jumped ship a while ago. Droid 4 isn't much better than what we have (actually, worse), so staying with Sprint.

The Epic 4G came out in August 2010, so hopefully the 2-year anniversary yields an awesome new slider phone with:
- 4G LTE
- 4-inch+ screen
- 8MP+ camera
I will ditch my Epic 4G in Q4 2012 or Q1/Q2 2013 depending on Sprint's LTE coverage and Clearwire's planned LTE rollout. If Sprint gets rid of its unlimited data plans, then I may jump to Verizon.

unfortunately att and verizon are just to expensive. the plans are way more than sprint & tmobile. But push come to shove i may jump to att. they are slightly less expensive than verizon and i may get a discount for having uverse tv & internet.
this lack of phone options from sprint is getting really old.