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Sprint and T-Mobile merger? Thoughts?

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-report-sprint-t-mobile-usa-pondering-merger/
I kind of like the idea. T-Mobile gets a bigger coverage area and Sprint gets more customers (meaning: we get more 4g towers if they stick with WiMax).
Thoughts?

Hasnt Sprint already learned their lesson about merging two different companies with seperate technologies? I would hope so...

AbsolutZeroGI said:
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-report-sprint-t-mobile-usa-pondering-merger/
I kind of like the idea. T-Mobile gets a bigger coverage area and Sprint gets more customers (meaning: we get more 4g towers if they stick with WiMax).
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I would actually be kind of pissed about this. I had T-Mobile for 8 years, until last year when I switched to Sprint and the Evo, they moved me to a non-contract plan without my consent(could not find any signed documents anywhere to prove I agreed to this) and would not let me back into a contract. If I wanted the phone discount I had to get a new phone number and contract. So, now I am with Sprint.
From a network standpoint, I would love it. T-Mobile has the best coverage here in AZ.

brownhornet said:
Hasnt Sprint already learned their lesson about merging two different companies with seperate technologies? I would hope so...
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Well yeah, the short term challenge is keeping both services running, but eventually they'll get it straightened out.
The G2, the Evo, the MyTouch 4g and the Shift all on the same network? I could get used to that. My G2 could get activated again!

AbsolutZeroGI said:
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-report-sprint-t-mobile-usa-pondering-merger/
I kind of like the idea. T-Mobile gets a bigger coverage area and Sprint gets more customers (meaning: we get more 4g towers if they stick with WiMax).
Thoughts?
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Why would we get more 4G towers by merging with T-Molbile if they don't use WiMax? T-Mobile uses HSPA+ for 4G.

Would this mean I would owe Sprint the $1800 that I owe T-mobile???? I sure hope not.
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If it happens, then I believe it would cement Sprint into the transition to LTE. Best way for them to eliminate the technological divide.

Shadodragon said:
If it happens, then I believe it would cement Sprint into the transition to LTE. Best way for them to eliminate the technological divide.
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Precisely, I think Sprint is doing this to switch to LTE and the transition will be easier with this acquisition. They would not do this to switch T-mobile to wimax and cdma. I think Sprint is looking seriously to make the change and is behind in the LTE race to Verizon and ATT. T-mobile and other partnerships they are pursuing will make the road to LTE much faster. Could be wrong though.

Great idea...Hopefully they keep CDMA & GSM so I can have my Evo on my main line & I can switch between a few GSM devices on my second line.

Ruki_Uki said:
Would this mean I would owe Sprint the $1800 that I owe T-mobile???? I sure hope not.
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LMAO!! 1800 tho..

dadoc04 said:
LMAO!! 1800 tho..
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T-mobile screwed my plan all up when I got the G1 and refused to fix it so I left them for Sprint and never paid They said they'll settle for $800 but I said no. Maybe Sprint will cut me some slack
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Ruki_Uki said:
T-mobile screwed my plan all up when I got the G1 and refused to fix it so I left them for Sprint and never paid They said they'll settle for $800 but I said no. Maybe Sprint will cut me some slack
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careful they don't come after you.
No! I dont see them merging.. they already have three networks... dont need to add more.

Originally Posted by Ruki_Uki
T-mobile screwed my plan all up when I got the G1 and refused to fix it so I left them for Sprint and never paid They said they'll settle for $800 but I said no. Maybe Sprint will cut me some slack
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Hey I just talked to your credit. It said LMFAO.

i do not see this happening even though ive seen this rumor on several sites. i mean would sprint go gsm then? or would they offer both cdma & gsm phones?
i mean sprint does not allow any phone they do not sell onto their network. if this happens tons of iphone users will be pissed off.

Isn't the old nextel Network the same as Tmobils? Sprint could just phase out cdma and combine the tmobil and Nextel networks, then convert all wimax to LTE. Although they might have an issue with the people who bought wimax phones, they could just give them $200 toward a new lte 4g phone with a 2 year contract and call it a day.

aimbdd said:
No! I dont see them merging.. they already have three networks... dont need to add more.
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1. iDEN network is being phased out in 2013, freeing up spectrum for Sprint's 3G/4G.
2. Switching to LTE is supposed to be 'easy' since it shares 70-80% of its DNA with Wimax.
3. Sprint's Network Vision will consolidate its different network equipment/stations, making them take up less space and less cost to run.
4. T-Mobile is in dire need of spectrum, which Sprint/Clearwire has a lot of.
5. T-Mobile has not yet adopted a new 4G network (LTE) beyond its enhanced HSPA network marketed as '4G'.

HSPA+ > all 4G (WiMax or LTE)

I think this is a great idea.... the problem of separate networks was solved ages ago.. dual mode GSM/CDMA phone.... If sprint did this they would increase the footprint and just use dual mode phones and there we go done deal.

Before Sprint went CDMA, they were called Sprint Spectrum, using GSM. When Sprint made the switch to CDMA they spun off their GSM network into a company called Voice Stream, which later became T-Mobile. If Sprint were to merge with T-Mobile, it would just be Sprint bring home it's off spring.

crabjoe said:
Before Sprint went CDMA, they were called Sprint Spectrum, using GSM. When Sprint made the switch to CDMA they spun off their GSM network into a company called Voice Stream, which later became T-Mobile. If Sprint were to merge with T-Mobile, it would just be Sprint bring home it's off spring.
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I remember voicestream and I do hope that they do merge.
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Sprint switcing from Wimax

Well as many of you read on Engadget about Sprint switching from WiMax to LTE. Well naturally being curious, while I was stopping by my parents house on the way home I asked my dad who worked in telecom for most of my life doing contract work for Sprint. He now has since moved out telecom to some other department, but he still keeps up with his telecom friends who do contracting work for Sprint. Anyways back to the point I asked if these rumors were true. He said Yes they are switching from WiMax, but not to what and that Samsung is providing the equipment. If i find out anymore information I will let you know.

i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?

omgzilla85 said:
i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?
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Everything would still work on the phone but the 4G LTE.

There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.

evilware said:
There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.
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but does this mean that they are going to stop expanding the 4g network, and focus only on getting LTE up in more places? this is kind of a kick in the balls for people who just bought 4g capable devices with sprint.

They'll probably continue to expand and run Wimax on 2.5 Ghz and run LTE in parallel on 850 Mhz.

The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?

Bukem75 said:
The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?
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Yes, but you can't swap out the hardware in your phone from wimax to LTE.

So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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mbaseball3 said:
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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By the time this is completed, the Evo will be obsolete.

mbaseball3 said:
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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No lol.. i am sure if you have 4g service you would still get it.

No offense but you have like 5 posts Including 2 in this thread, and you've been a member here just as long as I have pretty much...I'll believe it when I see it, and as ruge said, the evo will be the compare to as the nextel chirp phones back in the day and the razor, obsolete, trust me, no evo will have lte

the Evo 2A will have lte, I promise

Edit: I am changing this because I read this post wrong. You are right they are about to use Samsung products on the new towers but its not to change wimax, it is to make the towers more efficient and smaller. From what I was told they will use new technology which will allow them to add all services on one tower and be able to free up frequency to build out. It would not be imho to drop wimax because they will be the only ones to utilize it giving them an advantage in developing. Back on topic he is correct they are making upgrades and using new hardware within the towers but I think its imho to have voice/data simultaneous on a cdma network (a first) and they will do it with wimax 2 starting 2012...(that is just my opinion)

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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gamer4208 said:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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yes it will be BOTH, in years from now, which will be = 2 the razr in todays age

craigbailey1986 said:
This is complete bs as I know 2 top engineers working for sprint and neither have heard such news.... now I usually don't feed into this he say/she say because it won't change a thing but please don't spread speculations amongst the forum without having concrete facts. Sprint also stated recently they were keeping there 800 spectrum and making upgrades to it for business who utilize the "ptt" phones and not using it for lte. All it takes is a little reading....
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I believe I know the article you are referring to as it was in another thread on here and discussed the new PTT service they will use once IDEN is turned off and it will include more speeds and the likes for data.
The way I took the article was that the new PTT phones will take advantage of the new network upgrade they are performing i think its called Sprints Network vision. The multimode base-stations will be the key to it all.
In the end the change allows them to use all the networks more interchangably from what I understand.
I would not expect them to keep the 800MHz band for CDMA PTT. they stated that CDMA PTT phones will be out late this year and if thats the case and they were planning on having them run on the IDEN 800MHz band wouldn't IDEN need to be shut off first? I take it as the CDMA PTT phones will run on the regular network and use data form the 800MHz once they deploy LTE on that. they can't put WiMax on the 800MHz b/c WiMax isn't provisioned in that spectrum at this point.

As I stated in my edited reply it would not make sense to use technology the others are using because it would not make good marketing. Also wimax 2 will be out second quarter or half this year, can't recall, and around the exact same time frame for those new phones. Also the new hardware being supplied to sprint and their new plan is at the core of what wimax 2 is. Which is stated to give better download speed and efficiency thru multi data channels. The company supplying the hardware, Samsung, also The first company to test wimax 2 and said it got 130mbs download, but that's with no one else testing it. But you get the picture.... I hope
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My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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dirkyd3rk said:
My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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Sorry to hear that... I also don't get good signal in certain places but hey each carrier has bad spots, when I am in the studio some artist who have iPhone or att don't have any service while myself and engineer have full bars, though he has Verizon
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I was told Sprint is merging with Verizon on LTE

Sprint will reveal in October the news that they will be sharing the LTE signal and towers with Verizon. According to something I read and a employee dude in the Sprint store told me. Anyone has any info on this?

engelsione said:
Sprint will reveal in October the news that they will be sharing the LTE signal and towers with Verizon. According to something I read and a employee dude in the Sprint store told me. Anyone has any info on this?
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Verizon owns their network.
They might have a deal (much like the cdma deal) where they will be able to roam across networks...but its highly unlikely that Verizon would truly "share" their network with Sprint in the way you're thinking. (As in how Clear has with wimax)
Announcement link here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021

Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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I See this happening for only one reason.
It would be way cheaper.
The companies could use a data swapping model.
The two companies would swap equal amounts of data for no charge. and charge who ever uses more.
This method would allow the companies to expand their network and advertise they have more coverage.
\It will not be free but it will need to have some sort of method for finding out who uses what data who is going to be charged. This would allow cheaper costs and to have a huge footprint rather fast. It will also give time for the companies to save $$$ and build out their networks and switch solely to their LTE towers.
Again these companies will never do this. BUT. LTE hopping while using some sort of data swapping...Ehh
May or may not happen.

ok...but how about all the wimax phones sprint has and none lte....

Indirect said:
Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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kostov22 said:
ok...but how about all the wimax phones sprint has and none lte....
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Folks, keep in mind that networks take a long time to be built.
But yes, Wimax is looking to become the next 'BetaMax'.

Indirect said:
Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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Its already useless where I live. I'm not to worried about LTE and switching phones since as mentioned it takes a while. Still waiting to get my hands on that new Galaxy model.

mattykinsx said:
Folks, keep in mind that networks take a long time to be built.
But yes, Wimax is looking to become the next 'BetaMax'.
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Lol I remember watching our betamax when I was young.
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Betamax has better audio quality than VHS.

indagroove said:
Betamax has better audio quality than VHS.
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From what I understand the video quality was better too.
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Not sure what that has to do with this topic?

mattykinsx said:
From what I understand the video quality was better too.
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Not sure what that has to do with this topic?
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Just like Wimax better then LTE but being dropped like beta is probably the reference he's makin
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I was told..... radioactive waste had high nutritional value.

jessejames111981 said:
I was told..... radioactive waste had high nutritional value.
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Awesome
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Indirect said:
Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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Evo, Evo Shift, Epic 4g, Evo 3d, Random Samsung phone, and the Epic Touch coming are all WiMax, so I doubt it'll become useless.

Its not like they're just gonna immediately shut down the Wimax network anyway.
If they do, by the time they do, no one will have a Wimax capable phone.

"Sprint on Thursday announced that it has inked a deal with LightSquared will see 4G LTE services built out on its massive nationwide network. LightSquared will pay Sprint $9 billion over 15 years for the right to build out its LTE network using Sprint infrastructure, and Sprint will also get a total of $4.5 billion in credits toward LTE and satellite service. Equally important to the nation’s No. 3 carrier, the deal will allow it to save about $13 billion in network build-out costs and cover 260 million Americans with its 4G LTE service by 2015."
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/28/sprint-announces-deal-to-adopt-4g-lte/

mxl180 said:
"Sprint on Thursday announced that it has inked a deal with LightSquared will see 4G LTE services built out on its massive nationwide network. LightSquared will pay Sprint $9 billion over 15 years for the right to build out its LTE network using Sprint infrastructure, and Sprint will also get a total of $4.5 billion in credits toward LTE and satellite service. Equally important to the nation’s No. 3 carrier, the deal will allow it to save about $13 billion in network build-out costs and cover 260 million Americans with its 4G LTE service by 2015."
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/28/sprint-announces-deal-to-adopt-4g-lte/
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Yeah, that's old news.
Were talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021

mattykinsx said:
Yeah, that's old news.
Were talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021
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Sprint will be using LTE but named differently to not "confuse" the consumer Jan 1st 2012
I call BULLSHxT!

Wimax isn't going away... It was designed as a back haul system... Wimax can carry alot more data than LTE because of the spectrum it uses but can't penetrate building worth a crap. Wimax makes an excellent tower to tower communications system that LTE could only dream of so the goal should be use both systems for there designed purpose.
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i talked to sprint the other day and they are already doing it, however they are actually in the proccess of building there own 4g network with the lte technology to be completed by 2018.

Tmobile closing 7 of 24 call centers in the nation!!!

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/t-mo...untry/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
What provider is next best for upgrades , decent phones, pricing and customer service?? Feel free to rant and rave.
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IMO, Sprint sucks... I refuse to deal with AT&T.. my next carrier if Tmobile were to collapse would be Verizon.... but it really depends on your area

vinterchaos said:
IMO, Sprint sucks... I refuse to deal with AT&T.. my next carrier if Tmobile were to collapse would be Verizon.... but it really depends on your area
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Agree, verizon seems like the next best choice. Our good magenta is not the same :-(
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

I used to have Verizon like 5+ years ago. They gad good coverage. I always turned to Tmobile though because of their cheap plans and customer service plus they had a good selection of phones. Not to mention wifi calling.
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They're all horrible. Unfortunately I can't stand CDMA and not having a SIM card so... I'm stuck with the blue deathstar or T-Mobile who compresses the crap out of my images.

Yeah. Ill have to stick with sim card.
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They're all horrible. Unfortunately I can't stand CDMA and not having a SIM card so... I'm stuck with the blue deathstar or T-Mobile who compresses the crap out of my images.
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IMHO, best part of ANY GSM carrier is the ability to use phones not available in the US from other countries (i.e. GSM EVO 3D)

magiconthetire said:
IMHO, best part of ANY GSM carrier is the ability to use phones not available in the US from other countries (i.e. GSM EVO 3D)
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Also makes it easy to swap upgrades among accounts and quickly switching to a backup if your phone breaks

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IMHO, best part of ANY GSM carrier is the ability to use phones not available in the US from other countries (i.e. GSM EVO 3D)
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zander21510 said:
Also makes it easy to swap upgrades among accounts and quickly switching to a backup if your phone breaks
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Exactly why I won't use CDMA. I enjoy having a much broader range of potential devices--especially unbranded devices. And if my phone breaks or I brick it out of momentary stupidity, I can quickly swap it for one of the other phones I have.

What's funny to me about this is they 1900 people will be relocated. I call bs on that. All they will do is have them far away to fire them. The center here (where I used to work) had 700 employee's about 2 years ago. Since the announcement of the AT&T buyout they started firing everyone they could. The same center now has about 200 employees or less. If they're struggling for $$ so bad why aside a bunch of money to pay the executives. T-mobile executives have screwed thousands of employees. I was lucky enough to find a better job before most of this started but I've had a lot of friends to just come in one morning and for no reason walk right back out. The unemployment office here doesn't ask any questions anymore once you say you worked for T-Mobile. They know they're firing everyone. Awful situation if you ask me.

unlvmike said:
Agree, verizon seems like the next best choice. Our good magenta is not the same :-(
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
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You should look at this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel
And tell me they are the next best choice. If I have have to use it as a phone for data, I pick up my SGS 2 GT9100 on AT&T. If I don't care about if works or not I use my razr for the bit faster data speeds.)

My frustration towards CDMA

I just need to get this out of my system.
I own the Galaxy Nexus, unfortunately it is Sprint, so in other words, CDMA, this is terrible for me because according to Canonical there will be no official CDMA Support. Of course there has always been those amazing and wonderful developers that will try to port it but, a port is not the same thing as an official release, who knows how we'll get the Radios.
I almost cried when I heard the no support for CDMA, I was late and had already started looking into the Ubuntu SDK and reading guides and getting used to developing in Ubuntu.
I know many of you may say "Sprint sucks" or "Heh, that's what you get CDMA Newfag!" and that's pretty common because unfortunately many people find it necessary to insult people who own and probably prefer CDMA over GSM, even though it means more restrictions maybe it's the prices, unlimited Data, I don't know, so please don't make this a "CDMA sucks" thread.
I made this to demonstrate my frustration with CDMA, not Canonical, but CDMA, why? Well even if Canonical tried we all know they'd have some bad times, they would've had trouble with the carrier locks.
If you'd like to share useful non-flame opinions you may.

Honestly, CDMA networks like Verizon dominate the US because of their ties with Bell Atlantic and LTE coverage.
I personally think it's ridiculous that the most dominant US wireless carriers lock things down and monopolize like they do. Forcing customers to overpay for throttled and capped data, sign years of their life's hard earned money away in legally binding contracts, and they can't even give you decent customer support.
Google stopped making new Nexus devices for CDMA networks in the US because they know how immensely twisted they are. Canonical is smart to do the same thing.
Perhaps soon there will be better GSM coverage. Personally, I have a Google Play Galaxy Nexus on Straight Talk with unlimited everything for $45 a month. I'll never sell my soul to a CDMA crossroads demon again, haha.
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I have been using Sprint since 1999. I never worried about network technology in those days, but it just seems like there is no hope for any future where we have control of our devices without abandoning CDMA. We need to separate the devices from the carriers, and let the carriers compete on their networks, not on their marketing campaigns.
This is going to mean giving up the massive subsidy the carriers pay. But really, no one subsidized my car, or my laptop, or my shoes, and all of those are important too.
If we are all paying full cost for our phones, it's just going to be way cheaper to be in the global market for devices, rather than our little high-price, high subsidy, long-term contract subdivision.

Ugh.. I was hoping to port this to my phone, but I'm on Sprint, too. I hope someone figures out a way to port it to cdma phones.
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AFAIK CDMA only exists in USA, Japan and China. Let's live China out, cause China Telekom is pretty much all the choice you get. What about USA? If CDMA is bad, leave it. Go GSM. Vote with your money. Let corporations get a piece of your mind. IF people started to flee from Verizon maybe they would start rethinking their strategy (even if it took them years to implement anything)
As in most things in this world you can't have your cake and eat it too

The world uses GSM. Period. We can't take care of people who ride their special monocycle.

By the way China and Japan are two of the most technologically advanced economies in the world. CDMA is newer and more advanced then GSM. Verizon 4g phones are for better if you ask me because I can use Verizon or att or T-Mobile on my iPhone 5. I may not get 4g on the GSM networks but so what.
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CDMA sounds like the Betamax of network technology.
China most technologically advanced economy in the world. LOL
Who ever has to copy/steal stuff from the west is NOT technologically advanced.

blackout23 said:
CDMA sounds like the Betamax of network technology.
China most technologically advanced economy in the world. LOL
Who ever has to copy/steal stuff from the west is NOT technologically advanced.
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The first part of your statement is assinine.

MikeyCriggz said:
Honestly, CDMA networks like Verizon dominate the US because of their ties with Bell Atlantic and LTE coverage.
I personally think it's ridiculous that the most dominant US wireless carriers lock things down and monopolize like they do. Forcing customers to overpay for throttled and capped data, sign years of their life's hard earned money away in legally binding contracts, and they can't even give you decent customer support.
Google stopped making new Nexus devices for CDMA networks in the US because they know how immensely twisted they are. Canonical is smart to do the same thing.
Perhaps soon there will be better GSM coverage. Personally, I have a Google Play Galaxy Nexus on Straight Talk with unlimited everything for $45 a month. I'll never sell my soul to a CDMA crossroads demon again, haha.
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When my contract expires I was thinking of going to T-Mobile, or Straight Talk, it's pretty much almost the same thing though.
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blackout23 said:
The world uses GSM. Period. We can't take care of people who ride their special monocycle.
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Please, if you read my first post entirely you'd know that comments like those aren't needed.
So please stop.
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Your source may be wrong. The VGN is the most popular model out there and the only one with 4G. Ubuntu specifically started 4G support. Engadget did not say either way and I trust them. So why would they skip over the largest dev phone in the U.S. market? Answer: they wouldn't.
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jaed.43725 said:
Your source may be wrong. The VGN is the most popular model out there and the only one with 4G. Ubuntu specifically started 4G support. Engadget did not say either way and I trust them. So why would they skip over the largest dev phone in the U.S. market? Answer: they wouldn't.
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I think you're the one with the incorrect sources.
The VGN is not the only one with LTE and is not the most popular model. That would be the Play Store version.
Also Canonical stated no CDMA support.
Source:https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00125.html
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dohturdima said:
The first part of your statement is assinine.
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Agreed. Not one intelligent comment in his post.
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AW: My frustration towards CDMA
The US. Is pretty much almost alone with "pure" CDMA...
Most of Europe uses GSM and so does China.. But the GSM networks all use W-CDMA for their UMTS systems ..
Source : http://www.diffen.com/difference/CDMA_vs_GSM
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I should have been a little clearer. In the US the most popular variant is VZW.
The email link there is just someone asking about it and forming there own opinion.
Nowhere on the Ubuntu site does it say only GSM. The actually specifically state LTE compatibility. And as VZW has the largest LTE network it only makes sense.
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jaed.43725 said:
I should have been a little clearer. In the US the most popular variant is VZW.
The email link there is just someone asking about it and forming there own opinion.
Nowhere on the Ubuntu site does it say only GSM. The actually specifically state LTE compatibility. And as VZW has the largest LTE network it only makes sense.
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It's an email to Canonical, and a response from Canonical.
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since we are on the topic of network technologies i just have a quick question:
Speaking in terms of LTE will Merica use the same sort of LTE technology as europe? Or are their LTE network somesort of "apple 4g" speeds?
Are they using the same frequenzieisiisifis?

nicknamecharlston said:
since we are on the topic of network technologies i just have a quick question:
Speaking in terms of LTE will Merica use the same sort of LTE technology as europe? Or are their LTE network somesort of "apple 4g" speeds?
Are they using the same frequenzieisiisifis?
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Not sure but something I gotta tell you is that in San Antonio TX LTE is overrated. No kidding. T-Mobile 4G speeds are exactly the same as Verizon 4G LTE speeds.
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Jimlarck said:
Not sure but something I gotta tell you is that in San Antonio TX LTE is overrated. No kidding. T-Mobile 4G speeds are exactly the same as Verizon 4G LTE speeds.
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Ditto in Seattle, where my T-Mobile HSPA+42 seriously beats the crap out of AT&T's "LTE" and is the same speed as Verizon's LTE.
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