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Sprint May Get The iPhone 4?? :0

This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Hoping the paper boy comes by to give me some good newsssss.....
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Dan Hesse would probably get on his knees for the iPhone. $69.99 for the iPhone 4 on the Everything Data plan would take Sprint to new heights.

I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?

Ill get the iphone i used to have it when i was on att

uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You bring up a good point. I can't see how they could justify a $10 fee on a 3G phone. Lets pretend that the iPhone is a sure thing if they want it, I could see them either being greedy as hell and attaching the fee anyway, or not carrying it until there's a 4G version. If it's the latter, you probably wont see a iPhone on Sprint until they (if they every)change to LTE or Apple includes a WiMax version (which is unlikely).

We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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novanosis85 said:
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."

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We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Hmmm. You might be able to swap the ESN of a Sprint smartphone and get away with it. Of course it'd be illegal to do that.

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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...

edgemaster191 said:
Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.

Award Tour said:
With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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lol not doubting there will be an LTE iPhone, just saying they will make some huge announcement about how it's the greatest thing ever and brand it in someway that will make it look like they developed LTE/4G from the ground up, meanwhile they're the last one to the 4G party

Noiro said:
Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."
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Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.

iceflow420 said:
Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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CDMA doesn't have SIM cards (well at least not here). You have to activate your phone via the carrier and ESN number of the phone. Sprint will only activate ESNs that are in their system (just Sprint phones).

iceflow420 said:
Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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It's easy with gsm phones cuz of sim cards (except the iPhone). We have phone specific esn numbers attached to Sprint's network.
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Award Tour said:
With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.

uniquenameevo said:
The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.
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That's the iPhone product cycle in general. There were probably a ton of people who bought AT&T iPhone 4's today despite the looming unveiling of the iPhone 5.

Funny how my thread got epically trashed by noobs and trolls, yet this thread that is discussing the same thing seems clean. inb4 trolls log on and start acting like retards.
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
The only reason ESN was even made illegal was to stop people siphoning money from the companies and such, but since you own both the device and the service plan, i dont think they can do anything to you. And im pretty sure if the cdma iphone were to be dropped, it would be unlocked within matter of hours, and then modified for sprint and all the other cdma services within a matter of days.
What i want to know, is if someone can actually hardmod the phone to enable sprint wimax, or verizon lte on it? (most likely not since iOS is closed source, but still possible)

Last-Chance said:
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
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Changing the ESN is a very gray area. BUT changing the operating frequency of a transmitter is a whole other ball of wax(which you would going between Sprint, and Verizon or AT&T, and T-Mobile. Once you change the operating frequency that the transmitter was certified for it loses it's FCC Type Acceptance. It is no longer in the eyes of the FCC a legal phone. Now doing it to equipment on bands outside the cellphone allocations the FCC really doesn't monitor, or enforce unless someone complains. Fart around on aircraft, cellphone, and govt/military you will be paid a very personal visit by an FCC agent (and in this day and age the local swat team, and reps from various three lettered agencies).
FYI the only FCC licensed radio operator that can modify transmitters (or build for their personal use) for operation (within spec) on their allocated frequencies are Radio Amateurs. Once that radio has been modded it can no longer be used outside the Radio Amateur Bands.

HSPA+ Whats the deal?!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-2-and-10-1-inch-honeycomb-tablet-leaked-on-kore/
Alright as seen above is the Galaxy S2, Mkkkkkk thats great and all but because it has HSPA+ does that mean it can be on T-Mobile only I get confused by this and think "God dammit the antenna cant be run on Sprint, there is no way we are getting that phone now" This happened with the Pre 3 too, I just need some further insight into what that spec means and how it affects which provider the phone is going too.
Cordially
Blitz

Blitzpwnage said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-2-and-10-1-inch-honeycomb-tablet-leaked-on-kore/
Alright as seen above is the Galaxy S2, Mkkkkkk thats great and all but because it has HSPA+ does that mean it can be on T-Mobile only I get confused by this and think "God dammit the antenna cant be run on Sprint, there is no way we are getting that phone now" This happened with the Pre 3 too, I just need some further insight into what that spec means and how it affects which provider the phone is going too.
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Blitz
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you sir would be correct, that will not work on a sprint network.

Blitzpwnage said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-2-and-10-1-inch-honeycomb-tablet-leaked-on-kore/
Alright as seen above is the Galaxy S2, Mkkkkkk thats great and all but because it has HSPA+ does that mean it can be on T-Mobile only I get confused by this and think "God dammit the antenna cant be run on Sprint, there is no way we are getting that phone now" This happened with the Pre 3 too, I just need some further insight into what that spec means and how it affects which provider the phone is going too.
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Blitz
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HSPA+ is run on GSM networks NOT CDMA which is what sprint and Verizon use. Hence the different stuff on each network ex. EVDO, and HSPA

I think at&t also is going to be using hspa+

swaze said:
you sir would be correct, that will not work on a sprint network.
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Yes, but keep in mind that leak is coming from Korea and it's going to be at MWC so it's no surprise that it only mentions a GSM / HSPA+ version. Nothing says that there wont be a CDMA / LTE / Wimax version for Sprint / Verizon.
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HSPA+ is what the GSM carriers are doing for 4G right now. I think ATT is going to do LTE, T-mobile doesn't plan on it...I just switched back to sprint from t-mobile and the speed difference is ridiculous. Even on 4G, I am getting half the data speeds that I did with t-mobile HSDPA. Definitely not what I expected.

When the original Galaxy S was announced, it was GSM only as well but variants came out for all the carriers. I wouldn't buy anything from Samsung though, regardless of how appealing it seems.

*sigh*
HSPA+ = GSM = AT&T, T-Mobile, and 99% of all carriers in Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, and South America.

drmacinyasha said:
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HSPA+ = GSM = AT&T, T-Mobile, and 99% of all carriers in Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, and South America.
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Wow, this is such a misleading comment. Europe uses gsm exclusively but the rest of the world mostly uses cdma. Don't sigh about it. But please don't lie about it.

cdszoke said:
Wow, this is such a misleading comment. Europe uses gsm exclusively but the rest of the world mostly uses cdma. Don't sigh about it. But please don't lie about it.
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Um, actually most of the world uses GSM, which is why gsm phones are commonly referred to as "world phones"
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No, phones that are gsm AND CDMA are referred to as world phones typically.
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liquidtenmillion said:
No, phones that are gsm AND CDMA are referred to as world phones typically.
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Actually, the term pre-dates combo GSM/CDMA devices and was used to refer to GSM phones since GSM networks were the predominate cell technology outside of the US (and still are).
Oh, and to the OP, HSPA+ is being marketed as "4G" currently by AT&T alongside their yet-to-be-launched LTE network. Talk about confusing You may find that with a little bit of effort,( or none at all) HSPA+ equipped devices will bet interchangeable between T-mobile and AT&T. There are also rumours that some LTE-equipped devices will be able to swap between Verizon and AT&T.

Yep..me too. Actually breaking my contract (less than a year in because of Sprints abysmal speed) as soon as Infuse, or Galaxy 2 etc break.

Can't wait for the infuse 4g .... 4.5 in screeen wow

cdszoke said:
Wow, this is such a misleading comment. Europe uses gsm exclusively but the rest of the world mostly uses cdma. Don't sigh about it. But please don't lie about it.
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I lived in Cambodia for five years and travelled between often to Thailand and other countries. They all use GSM...

I'm breaking contract with T-mobile. I had a G1, loved it. Got a Vibrant, it was a nightmare trying to get it to work correctly, although I can't lie, I still enjoyed having it. Got a Nexus S, too many problems, returned it. Got a MT4G, nice phone, runs smoothly, but the screen was too small and the phone itself is a bit on the ugly side.
The real determing factor for me was that Sprint has 4G in my area, all of the other providers have 3G, and T-mobile is still running on Edge. I'm within my 30 day trial period w/ Sprint and the Evo, and I'll see how it goes. I was really hoping on going w/ Verizon and the HTC Thunderbolt, but alas, it's still up-in-the-air when it will come out. Verizon is more expensive as well when it comes to data plans. And as far as the MT4G, although CM7 runs very well on it, and it is very stable, I still can't bring myself to buying a 4G phone from a company that only offers Edge in my area (supposedly the military base near here is using their 3G towers to link to Afghanistan, but that's their problem, not mine)

gessin64 said:
Can't wait for the infuse 4g .... 4.5 in screeen wow
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Do yourself a favor... don't buy a Samsung device. They make good screens, I'll admit. But you'll be waiting for updates forever, and somebody won't release the code... just look at the Vibrant threads... they haven't even gotten CM6, let alone CM7.

cdszoke said:
Wow, this is such a misleading comment. Europe uses gsm exclusively but the rest of the world mostly uses cdma. Don't sigh about it. But please don't lie about it.
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You're an idiot. The only places outside of North America that CDMA are used are sporadically in China, a carrier or two in Japan, here and there in the rest of Asia, and that's about it.
"World phones" are AT&T (since they use different frequencies than the rest of the world's GSM networks except for... Telstra in Australia?), Verizon, and Sprint phones which have extra radios that support the standard quad-band networks. That's why there's two models of the Nexus One: A T-Mobile/World model, and the AT&T model.

The future of mobile is going to be in wifi not cellular. Hspa+ is TM's trial run at nailing down seemless transfer from 4G to wifi for data and voice calls. Assuming there are not many stumbling blocks, their future (and any other wireless companies that dont want to be left behind) will be into switching to running purely off wifi towers.

[Unrelated] AT&T to buy T-Mobile USA

Looks like #2 and #4 are going to merge. I guess the talk that Sprint might buyout T-Mobile didn't pan out. Looks like they will discontinue those ads where they make fun of AT&T's network.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fiw-att-deutsche-telecom-20110320,0,1733883.story

What does this mean for us?

This is the worst news I've ever heard lol

Jayavarman said:
What does this mean for us?
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nothing short term, but this could change the face of the u.s. wireless indusry.
also, already being discussed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12242001#post12242001

I definitely think the FCC will prevent it from happening, it would create a GSM monopoly in the US.

why would it matter if it was a gsm monopoly? there are still other carriers regardless, so i dont see it as being a monopoly. you can still buy gsm devices from anywhere and pop yuour sim card in and go if thats what the big deal about gsm is all about.

The problem with a GSM monopoly (or any monopoly really) is that it prevents competition, for instance people who travel frequently and therefore need a GSM handset are left with only one real option (sure there are Verizon and Sprint world phones but that is besides the point)

I blame T-Mobile Girl.

063_XOBX said:
The problem with a GSM monopoly (or any monopoly really) is that it prevents competition, for instance people who travel frequently and therefore need a GSM handset are left with only one real option (sure there are Verizon and Sprint world phones but that is besides the point)
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how does only having one gsm provider in the us prevent competition? there are still several other cell providers in the u.s. the reason you state one needs a gsm handset would be to be able to use it while traveling (im assuming you mean abroad) where you would use a local sim card any way. if your using att's minutes to talk over seas, you can do that with sprint and verizon too. they all have international roaming. not being able to use a phone overseas is not related at all to being a monopoly.

austin420 said:
how does only having one gsm provider in the us prevent competition? there are still several other cell providers in the u.s. the reason you state one needs a gsm handset would be to be able to use it while traveling (im assuming you mean abroad) where you would use a local sim card any way. if your using att's minutes to talk over seas, you can do that with sprint and verizon too. they all have international roaming. not being able to use a phone overseas is not related at all to being a monopoly.
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He's talking about in the broad sense. You had a choice in between AT&T and Tmobile which didn't have the best phones but had fair prices. Now that they're merged people are stuck with the high priced cheap phones without anyother choice for GSM carriers.
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This smells of a monopoly. 3 real major wireless carriers left in the US. It would be like the oil industry. They dont have to buy each other up. They can raise the prices on everyone now and who you going to complain to. They can also slow progress on any new developments in the wireless phone industry. Has anyone given this any thought. Just look at the history of all industry in the United States. There have been monopolies and just a couple of companies left in this country. They always do what they wanted to the consumer.

tmobile had cheap phones? odd and and here i thought half their lineup was android... stupid smartphones...

Alright I think finally there are enough threads on this.
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So who is gonna release Google experience devices now? AT&T? I doubt it.

muyoso said:
So who is gonna release Google experience devices now? AT&T? I doubt it.
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I'm holding out hope Verizon will eventually release even just ONE.
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This is kinda like Intel and AMD. They're the only two major CPU players left. Now if AMD dies off then we'd all be screwed but I doubt it'll ever happen since AMD always have few aces up their sleeve.
Now AT&T bought out T-Mobile will be the only GSM player in this country but this time it's a little different. Far as FCC and SEC are concerned it's not monopoly. We still have choices of different carriers such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. I know the latter two don't offer GSM but it doesn't matter much since GSM will eventually be going away and replaced with new standards in a few short years anyway.
Now with so many ticked off T-Mobile users I wouldn't be surprised they will switch to either Verizon or Sprint soon. So basically AT&T just wasted a pileload of cash for nothing. Great business sense they've made. So instead of spending money on improving their network they just buy out the competiton.
AT&T's way of doing things belong in the dinosaurs age and we all know what happened to that.
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muyoso said:
So who is gonna release Google experience devices now? AT&T? I doubt it.
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This is where Sprint should step up their game (and many more places) and release a Google dev/experience device.

We are so screwed!!!!
Darkk69 said:
This is kinda like Intel and AMD. They're the only two major CPU players left. Now if AMD dies off then we'd all be screwed but I doubt it'll ever happen since AMD always have few aces up their sleeve.
Now AT&T bought out T-Mobile will be the only GSM player in this country but this time it's a little different. Far as FCC and SEC are concerned it's not monopoly. We still have choices of different carriers such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. I know the latter two don't offer GSM but it doesn't matter much since GSM will eventually be going away and replaced with new standards in a few short years anyway.
Now with so many ticked off T-Mobile users I wouldn't be surprised they will switch to either Verizon or Sprint soon. So basically AT&T just wasted a pileload of cash for nothing. Great business sense they've made. So instead of spending money on improving their network they just buy out the competiton.
AT&T's way of doing things belong in the dinosaurs age and we all know what happened to that.
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FCC and SEC won't do anything anyways because our government sold the people out along time ago. I don't think they would even stop a Vezion, Sprint and A.T&T merge however improbable that may seem. They would let it happen. This is really bad news. I was hoping to goto T-mobile if sprint started raising there prices. Maybe that is why A.T&T decided to restrict their internet because if people did decide to change carriers they would be stuck with A.T&T. This is a good move for A.T&T and now they can boost they have the fastest 4G network and Sprint will have the slowest 4G network.

Darkk69 said:
Now AT&T bought out T-Mobile will be the only GSM player in this country but this time it's a little different. Far as FCC and SEC are concerned it's not monopoly. We still have choices of different carriers such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. I know the latter two don't offer GSM but it doesn't matter much since GSM will eventually be going away and replaced with new standards in a few short years anyway.
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Are you sure about that because I was under the impression that non GSM services were the odd ones out?
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I was told Sprint is merging with Verizon on LTE

Sprint will reveal in October the news that they will be sharing the LTE signal and towers with Verizon. According to something I read and a employee dude in the Sprint store told me. Anyone has any info on this?

engelsione said:
Sprint will reveal in October the news that they will be sharing the LTE signal and towers with Verizon. According to something I read and a employee dude in the Sprint store told me. Anyone has any info on this?
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Verizon owns their network.
They might have a deal (much like the cdma deal) where they will be able to roam across networks...but its highly unlikely that Verizon would truly "share" their network with Sprint in the way you're thinking. (As in how Clear has with wimax)
Announcement link here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021

Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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I See this happening for only one reason.
It would be way cheaper.
The companies could use a data swapping model.
The two companies would swap equal amounts of data for no charge. and charge who ever uses more.
This method would allow the companies to expand their network and advertise they have more coverage.
\It will not be free but it will need to have some sort of method for finding out who uses what data who is going to be charged. This would allow cheaper costs and to have a huge footprint rather fast. It will also give time for the companies to save $$$ and build out their networks and switch solely to their LTE towers.
Again these companies will never do this. BUT. LTE hopping while using some sort of data swapping...Ehh
May or may not happen.

ok...but how about all the wimax phones sprint has and none lte....

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ok...but how about all the wimax phones sprint has and none lte....
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Folks, keep in mind that networks take a long time to be built.
But yes, Wimax is looking to become the next 'BetaMax'.

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Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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Its already useless where I live. I'm not to worried about LTE and switching phones since as mentioned it takes a while. Still waiting to get my hands on that new Galaxy model.

mattykinsx said:
Folks, keep in mind that networks take a long time to be built.
But yes, Wimax is looking to become the next 'BetaMax'.
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Lol I remember watching our betamax when I was young.
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Betamax has better audio quality than VHS.

indagroove said:
Betamax has better audio quality than VHS.
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From what I understand the video quality was better too.
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Not sure what that has to do with this topic?

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From what I understand the video quality was better too.
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Not sure what that has to do with this topic?
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Just like Wimax better then LTE but being dropped like beta is probably the reference he's makin
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I was told..... radioactive waste had high nutritional value.

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I was told..... radioactive waste had high nutritional value.
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Awesome
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Indirect said:
Im wondering if wimax radios will become useful for nothing.
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Evo, Evo Shift, Epic 4g, Evo 3d, Random Samsung phone, and the Epic Touch coming are all WiMax, so I doubt it'll become useless.

Its not like they're just gonna immediately shut down the Wimax network anyway.
If they do, by the time they do, no one will have a Wimax capable phone.

"Sprint on Thursday announced that it has inked a deal with LightSquared will see 4G LTE services built out on its massive nationwide network. LightSquared will pay Sprint $9 billion over 15 years for the right to build out its LTE network using Sprint infrastructure, and Sprint will also get a total of $4.5 billion in credits toward LTE and satellite service. Equally important to the nation’s No. 3 carrier, the deal will allow it to save about $13 billion in network build-out costs and cover 260 million Americans with its 4G LTE service by 2015."
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/28/sprint-announces-deal-to-adopt-4g-lte/

mxl180 said:
"Sprint on Thursday announced that it has inked a deal with LightSquared will see 4G LTE services built out on its massive nationwide network. LightSquared will pay Sprint $9 billion over 15 years for the right to build out its LTE network using Sprint infrastructure, and Sprint will also get a total of $4.5 billion in credits toward LTE and satellite service. Equally important to the nation’s No. 3 carrier, the deal will allow it to save about $13 billion in network build-out costs and cover 260 million Americans with its 4G LTE service by 2015."
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/28/sprint-announces-deal-to-adopt-4g-lte/
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Yeah, that's old news.
Were talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021

mattykinsx said:
Yeah, that's old news.
Were talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241021
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Sprint will be using LTE but named differently to not "confuse" the consumer Jan 1st 2012
I call BULLSHxT!

Wimax isn't going away... It was designed as a back haul system... Wimax can carry alot more data than LTE because of the spectrum it uses but can't penetrate building worth a crap. Wimax makes an excellent tower to tower communications system that LTE could only dream of so the goal should be use both systems for there designed purpose.
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i talked to sprint the other day and they are already doing it, however they are actually in the proccess of building there own 4g network with the lte technology to be completed by 2018.

at&t vs. t-mobile

I ordered a N4 out of this new batch from Google and should be getting it before long. Currently, I use AT&T, but that's for a non-smart phone. Seems like I'd get more bang for my buck with one of the T-Mobile Value plans than I will with AT&T, where I'd be paying rates equivalent to those with a subsidized phone.
Still, what are the pros and cons of one carrier vs. the other with respect to the N4? Let's forget about phone reception for the purposes of this discussion in that neither of the two would match Verizon where I live (SF Bay Area in the US).
FWIW, I intend to root the device.
Cheaper rates with T-Mobile
Will the N4 support the LTE that T-Mobile is starting to roll out?
The N4 does NOT support the band that AT&T's LTE uses, true?
Comments on the above and any other comments would be greatly appreciated.

maigre said:
I ordered a N4 out of this new batch from Google and should be getting it before long. Currently, I use AT&T, but that's for a non-smart phone. Seems like I'd get more bang for my buck with one of the T-Mobile Value plans than I will with AT&T, where I'd be paying rates equivalent to those with a subsidized phone.
Still, what are the pros and cons of one carrier vs. the other with respect to the N4? Let's forget about phone reception for the purposes of this discussion in that neither of the two would match Verizon where I live (SF Bay Area in the US).
FWIW, I intend to root the device.
Cheaper rates with T-Mobile
Will the N4 support the LTE that T-Mobile is starting to roll out?
The N4 does NOT support the band that AT&T's LTE uses, true?
Comments on the above and any other comments would be greatly appreciated.
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Hopefully I can help a bit.
I am on the $30/month plan on T-Mobile, and in that regard, few other carriers in the developed world can match the value. Even at $50 for the pre-paid unlimited plans, it's a comparable value. Their contract plans are close to par with those from other providers, but with more "unlimited" options.
As to the second question, the answer is...sort of. It will probably unofficially work with T-Mobile's LTE in the areas where T-Mobile's LTE is rolled out on the bands that the "dormant" LTE in the Nexus 4 supports. Keep in mind this will be most markets, so it could kind of be a gem waiting for T-Mobile to start flipping the switches. Future software updates to the stock ROM may disable LTE to a greater degree, or they might not.
LTE will work on AT&T if you have a 4G data plan and you're in one of the FEW markets where AT&T operates LTE networks on the bands that the Nexus 4 supports. There are not many, and I don't know which ones there are offhand (though I think Kansas City or Oklahoma City are one of them).
Basically, do not buy the Nexus 4 for LTE support. Consider it a bonus if you get it to work, but have zero expectations for it to do so.
T-Mobile has faster HSPA+ speeds, AT&T has better HSPA+ coverage (and coverage overall). If you stick to cities and big towns, T-Mobile will be just as good as anything else.

IBTL
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ghostrid3r said:
IBTL
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Ha, yeah, this is totally the wrong forum.

Thanks for the help, Ajfink.
What's IBTL mean? If it's about the forum being wrong, I posted here because I need to figure out which carrier makes most sense for the N4, which, as you know well, is different than buying a subsidized phone from any of the carriers. When we do that, we know the phone is going to support the bands used by those carriers. This is a different situation and everyone who has the N4 has familiarity with that that I don't.

maigre said:
Thanks for the help, Ajfink.
What's IBTL mean?
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IBTL = In Before The Lock. Duplicate threads get locked pretty quickly. By the way, IBTL

grubbster said:
IBTL = In Before The Lock. Duplicate threads get locked pretty quickly. By the way, IBTL
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Hadn't seen that one before. Now I'm even more confused. This isn't a duplicate. I haven't posted this elsewhere.

maigre said:
Hadn't seen that one before. Now I'm even more confused. This isn't a duplicate. I haven't posted this elsewhere.
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Not just posted by you. There are several similar threads in general.

Go T-Mobile. Faster hspa+ and cheaper plans. If at&t didn't own my life right now, I'd switch.
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Just know that Tmobile has fairly bad to no building penetration in some areas. YMMV. I would suggest you get a prepaid sim and test the waters in your service area before making the switch.

The building my wife works in has terrible penetration for AT&T, but her coworker has T-Mobile and does fine. AT&T and VZW have some pretty high priced plans, though it seems that T-Mobile can be right up there under some circumstances. I'm going to give them a try for a month and see how it goes.