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T-Mobile SGSII

hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any information on the SGSII potentially coming to T-Mobile in the US. I read online that we might not get an actual SGSII and the we might get the Hercules and i've also heard that the Hercules will be the T-Mo version of the SGSII. I really would love to get one so i'm just hoping that they come stateside.
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Havent heard of anything for tmobile, just sprint/bell and possibly att lte sgs2.

Juls317 said:
hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any information on the SGSII potentially coming to T-Mobile in the US. I read online that we might not get an actual SGSII and the we might get the Hercules and i've also heard that the Hercules will be the T-Mo version of the SGSII. I really would love to get one so i'm just hoping that they come stateside.
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The Hercules is a variant of the U.S. market Infuse with a dual-core TI SoC. What other features it has haven't been confirmed. It's due out in September. T-Mobile won't be getting a version of the SGS2.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/17/exclusive-samsung-hercules-t-mobile-dual-core-infuse-4g/

would it be possible to buy an I9100 and unlock it and use it on tmobile
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Juls317 said:
would it be possible to buy an I9100 and unlock it and use it on tmobile
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You'd only get EDGE data speeds. Your only hope for a version that works on T-Mobile's bands is if Wind Canada gets one. But the Canadian's on the forum have said it's a Bell Canada exclusive so it's a long shot.

BarryH_GEG said:
You'd only get EDGE data speeds. Your only hope for a version that works on T-Mobile's bands is if Wind Canada gets one. But the Canadian's on the forum have said it's a Bell Canada exclusive so it's a long shot.
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Just got SGS2, it is connected to t-mobile usa, and it does only get EDGE speeds, and no HSPA+.
I can still keep it for trying out stuff for a bit, and would install any custom mods to try. If won't work, I may want to return it.
Is Wind Canada the only one with HSPA+ which is an option here?
There is no way to add only that support on top of a stock android?
The other feature that's needed to make it an excellent offering it T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling.
Any suggestions?

Ok, got an att sim and hspa+ works getting 6mbit downloads wih sgs2 now. Will only have that sim for test for three days. Though att is definitly costlier than tmobile for data and phone plans and they charge for overage rather than throttle.
Still my preference would be to hspa+ on tmobile, get tmobile wifi calling to work etc.
Also noted that tmobile wifi calling wont show as an app that backup software can see.
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arntgur said:
Ok, got an att sim and hspa+ works getting 6mbit downloads wih sgs2 now. Will only have that sim for test for three days. Though att is definitly costlier than tmobile for data and phone plans and they charge for overage rather than throttle.
Still my preference would be to hspa+ on tmobile, get tmobile wifi calling to work etc.
Also noted that tmobile wifi calling wont show as an app that backup software can see.
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I don't see AT&T being quite more expensive unless you really need the unlimited minutes. Otherwise you could get the medianet plan since the S2 isn't detected as a smartphone, which will solve your data problem for overages.

On tmobile i pay $25 for 'unlimited' data which means after 5gb it is throttled. I am on a no contract plan. Price for contract plan is $30 for the same data plan.
If i dont pay for overage its great. Yet them not recognizing it as smartphone may not hold for too long, as us flavors of s2 are being prepared.
While it does last that they dont recognise it as a smartphone, are you also on smallest data plan and pay the minimum?
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arntgur said:
On tmobile i pay $25 for 'unlimited' data which means after 5gb it is throttled. I am on a no contract plan. Price for contract plan is $30 for the same data plan.
If i dont pay for overage its great. Yet them not recognizing it as smartphone may not hold for too long, as us flavors of s2 are being prepared.
While it does last that they dont recognise it as a smartphone, are you also on smallest data plan and pay the minimum?
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There is an unlimited non smartphone data plan in att for just $15 and many of us are on that plan.
We do get hspa+ speeds on this plan. Pretty good deal compared to tmobile.
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I just bought an unlocked SGSII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292 from Newegg on "sale." It states that it has UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz.
I thought T-mobile used 900 and 2100. Can anyone explain why it doesn't work with T-mobile?
Thanks.

gspears said:
I just bought an unlocked SGSII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292 from Newegg on "sale." It states that it has UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz.
I thought T-mobile used 900 and 2100. Can anyone explain why it doesn't work with T-mobile?
Thanks.
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T-mobile uses 1700 and 2100, not 900 and 2100.

That would explain it.

Rrr, guess i missed the same point about tmobile's bands. There was a list of the 4 freauencies and no distinction of which one is for voice, data etc.
So running a speed test using AnTuTu benchmark clearly shows sgsii is a great pick performance wise as it is dominating the charts. Though that app lack a distinction for original cpu speeds. I may overclock it if i get time as its a fun game, thouhgh not right now.
Data plan wise, on att usa, you are on $15 for non smartphone. The its ar their mercy, and they could identify sgsii as smartphone anytime in which case we'd loose that excellent option, right?
Now got my previous smartphone, mytouch 4g with tmobile on a family plan. And that one would likely not fit on att hspa+ eigher. I can validate it later with my test card from att.
Phone plan wise att family starts at $69 for 700 min for two lines, and they also got 550 min unadvertized for $10 less. This is still $10 above t mobile base for family at $49, yet no big deal if att data is cheaper at $15 with the mentioned 'non smartphone' option.
With att data on hspa+, you vuys easily use the mobile access point without limitations? Have anyone tried vpning and working on that, remote desktop to work machine for a significant time, full working day, etc?
With my att test sim, hspa+ downloads are fine, anywhere from 1.5 to 6 mbits, uploads sometimes were slow around 300
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... uploads were around 300 kbit.
Will test it some more today and tomorrow from more locations in the area.
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arntgur said:
Now got my previous smartphone, mytouch 4g with tmobile on a family plan. And that one would likely not fit on att hspa+ eigher. I can validate it later with my test card from att.
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To save you and everyone else the trouble, as of now:
- There is no AT&T phone that supports HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network
- There is no T-Mobile phone that supports HSPA+ on AT&T's network
- There is no unbranded phone that supports HSPA+ on T-Mobile and AT&T, you have to pick one or the other. The SGS2 does not support, and most likely will never support, T-Mobile's funky AWS bands.
The Hercules is rumored to have AT&T's bands. So was the G2X and it didn't.

Thanks, that clarifies.
To maintain at least HSPA+ speeds, I can either Of two options:
- keep sgsii, move to AT&T, find how to migrate another existing smartphone since my tough 4g won't work with AT&T's data. *Maybe sell it and get another AT&T phone.
- return sgsii and stay on tmobile.
Have talked to AT&T support, and they confirmed that data plans for non smartphones begin at $10. *And that sgsii does not show as anything in their systems now neither a smartphone nor a non-smartphone. *And that it is correct that they can't guarantee anything about not identifying it as a smartphone in future.
So the best chance of the $15 data for non smartphones to last is if we get lucky enough that when they do launch the us AT&T version of sgsii, then the international one will be left out.
I am not exactly clear why the $15 non smartphone plan is needed over the $10 one. *Though, cant test too much with my AT&T temp sim, as they didn't want to change the plan the store gave me due to being on a trial period.
Still got today to try att sim out and can return with no fees, so will call or step by the store and check if that would be possible. *One challenge is that they already saw the phone and got excited, and listed it as a smartphone plan. * ..., we'll see how it goes...
Then I am also reading that AT&T talks about a dual LTE/HSPA+ support, yet that lte may take time to be battery friendly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162330&page=2). *
So possibly waiting for LTE to mature is not practical, in which case maybe no point in waiting for AT&T us version of sgsii which may only add LTE.
Coming from tmobile hspa+ usage since nov 2010, now when testing AT&T, it is more influenced from during the day traffic and speeds are slower vs faster speeds at less conventional hours. *Also seeing some sporadic speed tests issues coming from another device using the wifi hotspot - usually the upload, sometimes download too is near zero speed. *While most speed tests are decent. *Then have not seen any of that on tmobile.
One issue making me consider moving to AT&T is that tmobiles speeds in my new place are very bad for hspa+ if it at all it gets an*hspa signal. *Used to never need wifi and get consistent 4-6 mbits downloads ..., now getting even 1 from tmobile is a challenge.
Then, would like fast Internet when traveling overseas. *And tmobiles phone worked well last time with fast speeds. * Then I have seen some mentioning that tmobiles bands could be better for world traveling than AT&T, is that so?
(For instance*http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=4d1bbd0f46632e8d&hl=en has:
I can only say I use T-Mobile version and it IS working. I don't have AT&T one, can say nothing about it. Reason I have in mind while selecting model - in the most of the world T-Mobile version will have better coverage.
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arntgur said:
Thanks, that clarifies.
To maintain at least HSPA+ speeds, I can either Of two options:
- keep sgsii, move to AT&T, find how to migrate another existing smartphone since my tough 4g won't work with AT&T's data. *Maybe sell it and get another AT&T phone.
- return sgsii and stay on tmobile.
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- The $10 plan requires an unlimited messaging plan. The $15 plan is a stand-alone.
- The carrier versions of the SGS2 will have different model numbers and a different series of IMEI codes so I doubt that would effect the international SGS2 in AT&T's database.
- Our SGS2 won't support LTE. But it's going to take AT&T at least a year and a half to get any meaningful LTE penetration.
- I came from T-Mobile. AT&T's HSPA+ clocks a lot slower than T-Mobile's and isn't as widely available. For some reason though, things like video buffer less for me even though the speeds clock slower.
- AT&T is far better for international travel. They have roaming data plans you can pre-purchase that are less than 1/4 of what T-Mobile charges. Also, because the SGS2 is unlocked, you can pick up a SIM locally if you want to.

I'm surprised T-Mo isn't getting the GSII, they're usually good with Android.Well, this sucks...

jasonleb1 said:
I'm surprised T-Mo isn't getting the GSII, they're usually good with Android.Well, this sucks...
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No offense, but they're also the smallest carrier and are in the process of going away. I'm guessing they're getting an Infuse variant instead because Samsung's got the production capacity and probably cut them a deal.

[Q] Carrier switching

I'm thinking of switching my carrier from Verizon to something else. I have unlimited data with Verizon now so its my main reason to stay (this to shall pass). My main reason to change carriers is for devices. I noticed AT&T and T-Mobile get better phones all the time compared to Verizon's line up. So my main question is this, "Is a carrier switch worth it simply for a better device?" If so is AT&T my best choice or should I still consider T-Mobile?
Please try not to carrier bash in this thread. This is not what its for nor is it my goal. Thanks!
PS - I have an iPhone because it was cheaper to repair than my Thunderbolt at the time... worst mistake I ever made!

I'm sure this will get moved, but in general AT&T is going to have the better coverage.

In general, AT&T will offer better coverage while T-Mobile will offer better pricing. The two also handle data overages differently: AT&T will charge you an extra $15* per GB, while T-Mobile will still let you use your connection but at 2G speeds.
Since both are GSM carriers, you also have the option to outright buy any unlocked GSM compatible phone and have it work with at the very least Voice/Text/2G data. For 3G/4G to work, make sure you get one with AWS bands for T-Mobile or 1900Mhz bands for AT&T. Because of this, I dont think choosing one carrier over a phone is a good idea unless you absolutely need that subsidized price. And in that case, I would say go with AT&T since they tend to get the higher end phones (ex. One X vs One S).
Hope that helps.
*Havent checked in a while, this may not be accurate

talk2nate said:
I'm thinking of switching my carrier from Verizon to something else. I have unlimited data with Verizon now so its my main reason to stay (this to shall pass). My main reason to change carriers is for devices. I noticed AT&T and T-Mobile get better phones all the time compared to Verizon's line up. So my main question is this, "Is a carrier switch worth it simply for a better device?" If so is AT&T my best choice or should I still consider T-Mobile?
Please try not to carrier bash in this thread. This is not what its for nor is it my goal. Thanks!
PS - I have an iPhone because it was cheaper to repair than my Thunderbolt at the time... worst mistake I ever made!
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Your question is subjective - you're going to get opinions from several people who have different priorities than you do and, more importantly in terms of getting a "good" answer, their experiences will be different from what yours would be.
Look at coverage maps in your area and decide which carriers will be available, then make the decision yourself.
There are objective distinctions to be made in the case of AT&T vs. T-Mobile if you were going to buy an unbranded device, but that's not a concern for you.

If you need out of your contract, PM me. I may consider doing an assumption of liability for a line with unlimited data plan. I realize I'd have to outright buy the phones in the future, but Verizon is great in AZ.

Where do you live? Around here (Wichita) T-Mobile only really gives 4g coverage in the city and they didn't used to cover outside at all. But recently they got GRPS in a bunch of rural areas and good voice coverage on the way to my hometown which is NW. Also if they continue refarming the towers they will soon probably get 3g if you have a 1900 UTMS phone now even though it is CDMA. That is what I am doing now and I'm waiting for Wichita to get refarmed.
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I have a Droid 3 I had on Verizon but pretty much left their service just because I couldn't stand the prices.
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T-Mobile / Nexus 4

Hi all.
I'm currently a Verizon customer and I hate the fact that their network is locked down because it's tied to CMDA. I like the idea of buying unlocked phones and popping in a SIM. Now that Google is selling unlocked Nexus phones at a ridiculously low price, I'm tempted to switch.
What I do like about Verizon's network is the quality. I've only been on at&t and Verizon and I can say that Verizon has a much better network than them in my experience. I'm also in a solid LTE area with grandfathered unlimited data.
Are there any people out there that have experienced both Verizon and T-mobiles networks? I know comparisons will vary from location to location - I'm in San Diego. Any advice on whether or not I should switch? I'd hate to switch only to learn that the network stinks and then lose my unlimited data when I go back to Verizon.
Thanks!

There will likely be a "cool off" period with the Nexus 4 as there was with the Galaxy Nexus, meaning you could get your money back after 2 weeks (or 30 days, I can't remember now). That's under the assumption you bought from the Play Store.
Then you could get the T-Mobile Prepaid $30 plan and test out T-Mobile's network for however long you have to return the Nexus 4. You'd just keep your Verizon line open while you are experimenting with T-Mobile.
The worse that you'd lose is a month's of prepaid service and maybe some repacking fees. The best is you'd be happy with T-Mobile and lower your monthly bill. Oh and there are plenty of people willing to take your Verizon Unlimited Data Plan for free and you could turn around and sell your Verizon phone.
That's what I did with the Galaxy Nexus and I was able to keep my number while being under contract (there's a Google Voice trick) . Verizon's LTE is faster than T-Mobile's HSPA but it's definitely suitable for my needs. I happen to think LTE is more than what average users really require.

CaptainStrange said:
There will likely be a "cool off" period with the Nexus 4 as there was with the Galaxy Nexus, meaning you could get your money back after 2 weeks (or 30 days, I can't remember now). That's under the assumption you bought from the Play Store.
Then you could get the T-Mobile Prepaid $30 plan and test out T-Mobile's network for however long you have to return the Nexus 4. You'd just keep your Verizon line open while you are experimenting with T-Mobile.
The worse that you'd lose is a month's of prepaid service and maybe some repacking fees. The best is you'd be happy with T-Mobile and lower your monthly bill. Oh and there are plenty of people willing to take your Verizon Unlimited Data Plan for free and you could turn around and sell your Verizon phone.
That's what I did with the Galaxy Nexus and I was able to keep my number while being under contract (there's a Google Voice trick) . Verizon's LTE is faster than T-Mobile's HSPA but it's definitely suitable for my needs. I happen to think LTE is more than what average users really require.
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Thanks for the input! That's a great idea.
What do you mean by "plenty of people willing to take your Verizon Unlimited Data Plan"?
I was also thinking about porting my number to google voice, but I realize I'd be losing MMS.
How would you compare Verizon and T-mobile in terms of building penetration and service in congested areas?

skinien said:
Thanks for the input! That's a great idea.
What do you mean by "plenty of people willing to take your Verizon Unlimited Data Plan"?
I was also thinking about porting my number to google voice, but I realize I'd be losing MMS.
How would you compare Verizon and T-mobile in terms of building penetration and service in congested areas?
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I would double check if the Play Store will allow returns for the LG Nexus 4, although I wouldn't see why not. I can't look up the site at the moment.
I was assuming that you are still in a contract. If you are, you can let someone assume your contract. It's called an assumption of liability and people will snatch up a contract that has unlimited data, especially with Verizon.
As far as building penetration, I don't notice much difference at all. I get better reception at my job and that is a 5 story building.
I think that the higher frequencies can become problematic if you are far from the tower, if there are many people using the same tower, the weather, etc. I don't believe in saying T-Mobile has bad building reception because it uses higher frequencies. But, it does play a factor.

You can also go prepaid on atts network. There are a bunch of mnvos, most notably straight talk.
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You can also go prepaid on atts network. There are a bunch of mnvos, most notably straight talk.
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Thanks. I'm going to try t-mobile's first. Their HSPA+ speeds are great according to this:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405597,00.asp

^ And according to me
I'm on a T-Mobile mnvo and I get the same speeds as I did on their network, with their data gateway.
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Id be interested in your granfathered unlimited data plan with verizon.

Verizon
I'd say stick to Verizon. They have more cell towers and what not so reception is very good. Also, they had a better selection of phones in my opinion.

I just switched to T-Mobile from Sprint. I have an original Xoom on Verizon. T-Mobile has excellent voice coverage and pretty good data. If you are going to be traveling out of the US (which I do). T-Mobile is the way to go. It is hard to beat Verizon's coverage and speed domestically. You can't go wrong with either. I had a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint and it was a bad experience. Phone was great, but the network was horrible. My phone drained in about 2 hours when not on Wi-Fi. Hope this helps.
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Id be interested in your granfathered unlimited data plan with verizon.
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Do you know how this works? I've never heard of the ability to do hand off a contract until this thread.

skinien said:
Do you know how this works? I've never heard of the ability to do hand off a contract until this thread.
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You call Verizon Wireless assumption of liability department at 1-888-832-4540. You give them the first and last name of the person taking over the contract. Also, make sure you get your phone number ported to Google Voice beforehand. If you have questions about porting to Google Voice under contract see this thread:
https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/779321

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You call Verizon Wireless assumption of liability department at 1-888-832-4540. You give them the first and last name of the person taking over the contract. Also, make sure you get your phone number ported to Google Voice beforehand. If you have questions about porting to Google Voice under contract see this thread:
https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/779321
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Thanks. I was thinking about porting to voice but don't want to deal with MMS not working.

To be honest I just got switched from Verizon to t-mobile and though Verizon has more coverage T-Mobile network is still very good at least in Ohio, data isn't as fast as LTE but that's a given. Still HSPA+ is still quite fast.
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skinien said:
Hi all.
I'm currently a Verizon customer and I hate the fact that their network is locked down because it's tied to CMDA. I like the idea of buying unlocked phones and popping in a SIM. Now that Google is selling unlocked Nexus phones at a ridiculously low price, I'm tempted to switch.
What I do like about Verizon's network is the quality. I've only been on at&t and Verizon and I can say that Verizon has a much better network than them in my experience. I'm also in a solid LTE area with grandfathered unlimited data.
Are there any people out there that have experienced both Verizon and T-mobiles networks? I know comparisons will vary from location to location - I'm in San Diego. Any advice on whether or not I should switch? I'd hate to switch only to learn that the network stinks and then lose my unlimited data when I go back to Verizon.
Thanks!
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I have several T-mobile phones, and my husband has a T-mobile phone and a Verizon phone. He's says there's really no difference in speed or coverage (we live in Jersey City, NJ....And to those of you that would like to dispute this claim...Note: this is my experience and opinion and I'm entitled to it. Thank you.)
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My frustration towards CDMA

I just need to get this out of my system.
I own the Galaxy Nexus, unfortunately it is Sprint, so in other words, CDMA, this is terrible for me because according to Canonical there will be no official CDMA Support. Of course there has always been those amazing and wonderful developers that will try to port it but, a port is not the same thing as an official release, who knows how we'll get the Radios.
I almost cried when I heard the no support for CDMA, I was late and had already started looking into the Ubuntu SDK and reading guides and getting used to developing in Ubuntu.
I know many of you may say "Sprint sucks" or "Heh, that's what you get CDMA Newfag!" and that's pretty common because unfortunately many people find it necessary to insult people who own and probably prefer CDMA over GSM, even though it means more restrictions maybe it's the prices, unlimited Data, I don't know, so please don't make this a "CDMA sucks" thread.
I made this to demonstrate my frustration with CDMA, not Canonical, but CDMA, why? Well even if Canonical tried we all know they'd have some bad times, they would've had trouble with the carrier locks.
If you'd like to share useful non-flame opinions you may.

Honestly, CDMA networks like Verizon dominate the US because of their ties with Bell Atlantic and LTE coverage.
I personally think it's ridiculous that the most dominant US wireless carriers lock things down and monopolize like they do. Forcing customers to overpay for throttled and capped data, sign years of their life's hard earned money away in legally binding contracts, and they can't even give you decent customer support.
Google stopped making new Nexus devices for CDMA networks in the US because they know how immensely twisted they are. Canonical is smart to do the same thing.
Perhaps soon there will be better GSM coverage. Personally, I have a Google Play Galaxy Nexus on Straight Talk with unlimited everything for $45 a month. I'll never sell my soul to a CDMA crossroads demon again, haha.
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I have been using Sprint since 1999. I never worried about network technology in those days, but it just seems like there is no hope for any future where we have control of our devices without abandoning CDMA. We need to separate the devices from the carriers, and let the carriers compete on their networks, not on their marketing campaigns.
This is going to mean giving up the massive subsidy the carriers pay. But really, no one subsidized my car, or my laptop, or my shoes, and all of those are important too.
If we are all paying full cost for our phones, it's just going to be way cheaper to be in the global market for devices, rather than our little high-price, high subsidy, long-term contract subdivision.

Ugh.. I was hoping to port this to my phone, but I'm on Sprint, too. I hope someone figures out a way to port it to cdma phones.
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AFAIK CDMA only exists in USA, Japan and China. Let's live China out, cause China Telekom is pretty much all the choice you get. What about USA? If CDMA is bad, leave it. Go GSM. Vote with your money. Let corporations get a piece of your mind. IF people started to flee from Verizon maybe they would start rethinking their strategy (even if it took them years to implement anything)
As in most things in this world you can't have your cake and eat it too

The world uses GSM. Period. We can't take care of people who ride their special monocycle.

By the way China and Japan are two of the most technologically advanced economies in the world. CDMA is newer and more advanced then GSM. Verizon 4g phones are for better if you ask me because I can use Verizon or att or T-Mobile on my iPhone 5. I may not get 4g on the GSM networks but so what.
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CDMA sounds like the Betamax of network technology.
China most technologically advanced economy in the world. LOL
Who ever has to copy/steal stuff from the west is NOT technologically advanced.

blackout23 said:
CDMA sounds like the Betamax of network technology.
China most technologically advanced economy in the world. LOL
Who ever has to copy/steal stuff from the west is NOT technologically advanced.
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The first part of your statement is assinine.

MikeyCriggz said:
Honestly, CDMA networks like Verizon dominate the US because of their ties with Bell Atlantic and LTE coverage.
I personally think it's ridiculous that the most dominant US wireless carriers lock things down and monopolize like they do. Forcing customers to overpay for throttled and capped data, sign years of their life's hard earned money away in legally binding contracts, and they can't even give you decent customer support.
Google stopped making new Nexus devices for CDMA networks in the US because they know how immensely twisted they are. Canonical is smart to do the same thing.
Perhaps soon there will be better GSM coverage. Personally, I have a Google Play Galaxy Nexus on Straight Talk with unlimited everything for $45 a month. I'll never sell my soul to a CDMA crossroads demon again, haha.
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When my contract expires I was thinking of going to T-Mobile, or Straight Talk, it's pretty much almost the same thing though.
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The world uses GSM. Period. We can't take care of people who ride their special monocycle.
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Please, if you read my first post entirely you'd know that comments like those aren't needed.
So please stop.
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Your source may be wrong. The VGN is the most popular model out there and the only one with 4G. Ubuntu specifically started 4G support. Engadget did not say either way and I trust them. So why would they skip over the largest dev phone in the U.S. market? Answer: they wouldn't.
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jaed.43725 said:
Your source may be wrong. The VGN is the most popular model out there and the only one with 4G. Ubuntu specifically started 4G support. Engadget did not say either way and I trust them. So why would they skip over the largest dev phone in the U.S. market? Answer: they wouldn't.
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I think you're the one with the incorrect sources.
The VGN is not the only one with LTE and is not the most popular model. That would be the Play Store version.
Also Canonical stated no CDMA support.
Source:https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00125.html
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The first part of your statement is assinine.
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Agreed. Not one intelligent comment in his post.
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AW: My frustration towards CDMA
The US. Is pretty much almost alone with "pure" CDMA...
Most of Europe uses GSM and so does China.. But the GSM networks all use W-CDMA for their UMTS systems ..
Source : http://www.diffen.com/difference/CDMA_vs_GSM
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I should have been a little clearer. In the US the most popular variant is VZW.
The email link there is just someone asking about it and forming there own opinion.
Nowhere on the Ubuntu site does it say only GSM. The actually specifically state LTE compatibility. And as VZW has the largest LTE network it only makes sense.
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jaed.43725 said:
I should have been a little clearer. In the US the most popular variant is VZW.
The email link there is just someone asking about it and forming there own opinion.
Nowhere on the Ubuntu site does it say only GSM. The actually specifically state LTE compatibility. And as VZW has the largest LTE network it only makes sense.
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It's an email to Canonical, and a response from Canonical.
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since we are on the topic of network technologies i just have a quick question:
Speaking in terms of LTE will Merica use the same sort of LTE technology as europe? Or are their LTE network somesort of "apple 4g" speeds?
Are they using the same frequenzieisiisifis?

nicknamecharlston said:
since we are on the topic of network technologies i just have a quick question:
Speaking in terms of LTE will Merica use the same sort of LTE technology as europe? Or are their LTE network somesort of "apple 4g" speeds?
Are they using the same frequenzieisiisifis?
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Not sure but something I gotta tell you is that in San Antonio TX LTE is overrated. No kidding. T-Mobile 4G speeds are exactly the same as Verizon 4G LTE speeds.
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Jimlarck said:
Not sure but something I gotta tell you is that in San Antonio TX LTE is overrated. No kidding. T-Mobile 4G speeds are exactly the same as Verizon 4G LTE speeds.
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Ditto in Seattle, where my T-Mobile HSPA+42 seriously beats the crap out of AT&T's "LTE" and is the same speed as Verizon's LTE.
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[Q] Get LG G2 and stay on VZW Unlimited or Nexus 5 and jump to T-Mobile unlimited

Since it's piety much assured the Nexus 5 will never be available on Verizon I was looking at getting the G2 to keep unlimited data and Verizon's awesome network, however looking at how the original Optimus G on ATT never got official CM releases I am now worried about getting it as I love using ROMs and being able to keep the most recent Android version on my phone. Now the Nexus 5 well be based on the G2 and obviously have the best Dev support of any phone, but that means leaving Verizon's network for T-Mobile, just wondering what all of you think.

bose301s said:
Since it's piety much assured the Nexus 5 will never be available on Verizon I was looking at getting the G2 to keep unlimited data and Verizon's awesome network, however looking at how the original Optimus G on ATT never got official CM releases I am now worried about getting it as I love using ROMs and being able to keep the most recent Android version on my phone. Now the Nexus 5 well be based on the G2 and obviously have the best Dev support of any phone, but that means leaving Verizon's network for T-Mobile, just wondering what all of you think.
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Impossible to answer until the nexus 5 is announced with price
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psychoace said:
Impossible to answer until the nexus 5 is announced with price
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Willing to bet it'll be less than the off contract price of the G2, so set price aside, I'll pay whatever for either device, more concerned about network vs. development prospects.

I'm voting Verizon simply for the fact their coverage is just too good to ignore. I'd love to be on T-Mobile because it's hard to ignore how cheap it is to be on their network, but their coverage is just not good outside of cities. The frequency T-Mobile uses also has issues when it comes to reception within buildings. There are a lot of people who love the carrier, but even plenty of the loyal ones will say the signal isn't the greatest by any means.
If you don't plan on traveling and your city has good coverage, it's fine, but if you do travel, it's a more difficult decision. I hate the cost that comes with being on Verizon, but it's nice getting data in areas where ever other carrier fumbles. In fact, at the job I'm working part time at right now, I'm the only one who does not need to use the wifi there because I get great 3g reception.
Also, I think the G2 is going to have a better dev community than past LG phones. This is the first flagship LG Android phone to release on all carriers.

Guess there's not many opinions on this.

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Guess there's not many opinions on this.
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Ill second the opinion on VZWs network being too big to ignore.
I actually had a demo Tmo device for the last couple weeks and outdoors the coverage was great, but once inside a building it went to nothing. Just because of the frequency bands they use, so its not like its something fixable. AT&T/VZW own the lower bands, and lower freqs have better building penetration.
In my case, no matter how cheap it was, Tmo just wouldnt work for me.

I also average 5-7gb a month so no prepaid or other plan really has enough data for me other than T-Mobile.

I guess Aio is always an option with 7gb/month allowance and options for more but 8mbps cap kinda sucks.