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Moving to Verizon need hellpppppp.

I'm moving to Verizon because of complicated reasons. What phone should I get? I freaking love my evo and I have no clue what to get.
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Get a "full featured" flip phone so you dont have to worry about going over your limited data plan.

Thunderbolt seems like the obvious choice. It is the HTC flagship phone for Verizon. It is the Evo on steroids I believe

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Get a "full featured" flip phone so you dont have to worry about going over your limited data plan.
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Haha, I'll just get a env3. Oh yeah , look at me now 0.0
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I'd go incredible s.
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Thunderbolt.

Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.

The Thunderbolt really is an Evo on steroids, as lehalter said, and I think it's Verizon's best phone right now. The Droid Charge (Samsung) is nice too, but especially if you like Sense, Thunderbolt is the way to go. My dad just got it after having the original Droid, and he's really happy with it.
I'd have a hard time buying anything that's not LTE compatible on VZW right now, unless you live in the middle of nowhere and aren't likely to see LTE in the next 2 years. VZW's LTE network is everything we wish Sprint's 4G network was (well, except for cheap and soon, unlimited). That would knock the Incredible 2 and Droid X2 off my list, personally.

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If he has Verizon now, he can get true unlimited data.

Award Tour said:
If he has Verizon now, he can get true unlimited data.
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Maybe unlimited but throttled at the same time.

animal7296 said:
Maybe unlimited but throttled at the same time.
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I don't think it's conclusively been shown that Verizon is throttling LTE if you go over a certain cap. I honestly don't know the details, but I think it's safe to say that one would be better off getting on VZW now before the "unlimited" plan really does go away.
In any event, the OP said he needs to move to VZW and probably doesn't need us to try to talk him out of it. I think the question is just which VZW phone is going to be best for an Evo lover, and I think the Thunderbolt is a pretty clear choice.

I'd get the Droid charge.
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bkrodgers said:
I don't think it's conclusively been shown that Verizon is throttling LTE if you go over a certain cap. I honestly don't know the details, but I think it's safe to say that one would be better off getting on VZW now before the "unlimited" plan really does go away.
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They have openly admitted they throttle.
They've said its only the "top 5%"
(Whatever thats supposed to mean)
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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/verizon-will-throttle-data-for-the-top-5-of-users-and-optimize-content-for-all-2011023/

i just left verizon.. data throttling was pi$$ing me off, i use about 10 to 13 gigs a month and that was without tethering...
on the note of throttleing.. big v woiuld actually shut off my 3g connection and id be stuck with 1x for the rest of the day... also they are not friendly to tetherin.... DO NOT MAKE THIS INTO A TETHERING FIGHT
back to the original topic...
i personally would go with the thunderbolt... even though it is "old tech" just to lock in the 4g unlimited now.
before anyone starts in... verizon's ceo has already announced that tiered data will start this summer... which so happens to be right before the dual cores hit...., and their dual core lte phones just so happened to have been "delayed" for "further testing".....whatever .......
Again i would stick with thunderbolt... DO NOT GO TO MOTO... moto has awesome phones and i hate to say it but personally any moto phone is 10 times better in hardware and some software than anyone else right now... however they all have encrypted bootloaders..
this means that yes you can have root access, however what this means is that ther are NO TRULY CUSTOM ROMS... think cyanogenmod and asop... also NO kernels, and no truly great upgrades...
dx is much better that evo .. however it is ristricted due to the encrypted bootloader... and no the bootloader will not be broken ....
plain and simple switch now to make sure you get unlimited 4g, or wait and take a chance, also again i would rec thunderbolt do to at least htc at this time is listening to its customers....

bjb_nyj101 said:
Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.
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First off... If he never wants to mod anything on his phone then yes, he should get something made by Motorola. Second... All he has to do is shut off the extra radio to save power. You do know that you are on the Evo section of the forum right? Most people on here have their WiMax radios turned off because they don't get WiMax in their area. The X2 only scores about 500-600 higher than the Thunderbolt on quadrant... and it has an entire extra core. Motorola can do better than that.

keejung said:
i just left verizon.. data throttling was pi$$ing me off, i use about 10 to 13 gigs a month and that was without tethering...
on the note of throttleing.. big v woiuld actually shut off my 3g connection and id be stuck with 1x for the rest of the day... also they are not friendly to tetherin.... DO NOT MAKE THIS INTO A TETHERING FIGHT
back to the original topic...
i personally would go with the thunderbolt... even though it is "old tech" just to lock in the 4g unlimited now.
before anyone starts in... verizon's ceo has already announced that tiered data will start this summer... which so happens to be right before the dual cores hit...., and their dual core lte phones just so happened to have been "delayed" for "further testing".....whatever .......
Again i would stick with thunderbolt... DO NOT GO TO MOTO... moto has awesome phones and i hate to say it but personally any moto phone is 10 times better in hardware and some software than anyone else right now... however they all have encrypted bootloaders..
this means that yes you can have root access, however what this means is that ther are NO TRULY CUSTOM ROMS... think cyanogenmod and asop... also NO kernels, and no truly great upgrades...
dx is much better that evo .. however it is ristricted due to the encrypted bootloader... and no the bootloader will not be broken ....
plain and simple switch now to make sure you get unlimited 4g, or wait and take a chance, also again i would rec thunderbolt do to at least htc at this time is listening to its customers....
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So verizon would cut down your unlimited usage? WTF
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LexLuger82 said:
So verizon would cut down your unlimited usage? WTF
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bjb_nyj101 said:
Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.
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yea the battery normally sucks but i rooted my buddies and tweaked it a bit he is now getting 8 - 9 hours ( LoL) with moderate usage
he was getting 5 - 6

depends where you live. if you are in a 4g area, get a Droid Charge... the screen alone will win you over and it gets better battery life than the thunderbolt.
If no 4g, get the incredible 2.
Be warned however, Verizon is having lots of issues with their 4g network and/or 4g handsets.

632627 said:
depends where you live. if you are in a 4g area, get a Droid Charge... the screen alone will win you over and it gets better battery life than the thunderbolt.
If no 4g, get the incredible 2.
Be warned however, Verizon is having lots of issues with their 4g network and/or 4g handsets.
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4G is in its infancy. No one has all the bugs worked out of there 4G . Give it a couple more years and it will be like 3G

Galaxy s2 coming to Verizon this summer

Galaxy s2 coming to Verizon soon supposedly.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-headed-to-verizon-in-july/
EDIT: Not happening.
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It better. July is my Birthday and I'd be buying one on release day.

Still no word on LTE or not though

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Still no word on LTE or not though
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No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.

I dont care, as long as it comes put.
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imnuts said:
No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.
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This... SGSIII or bust.
or some other unreleased super phone

imnuts said:
No LTE and no thanks. LTE and I'll be getting one.
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Yeah likely same here

Looks like VZW is debunking the rumor of a July release
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-rumored-possibly-july-launch-verizon

jpricesd said:
Looks like VZW is debunking the rumor of a July release
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-rumored-possibly-july-launch-verizon
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That sucks but also not surprising. Honestly I originally thought the SGS2 wouldn't drop for verizon till september. Then again I'm still content with this fasc as is, at 1.5ghz already, and in cm7 and I can wait
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Speaking of LTE I saw this article for 4G download speeds on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution
When it said 100Mbps I honestly puked in excitement then I started thinking why aren't the phones showing these fast of speeds?

Because the frequency band they are using currently...lte technology benefits exponentially on wider frequencies...fastest they can get on 5ghz is around 25mbps
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Here is a link to the rumored leaked spec sheet.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Function_id5535
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The function is what i'm waiting for before I upgrade but I want them to do better on the price than they did on the Droid Charge

What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?

I cannot wait to get the SGSII my locked down X is killing me. It'll be a great sitting next to my fascinate.

Smeed said:
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
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Because a phone is a phone. If it does what it is supposed to do, why complain? We buy phones for what they do; whatever they'll be capable of later after updates is just a plus.
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Why stick with Verizon? Because they're still by far the best nationwide carrier. Let's compare:
Sprint: Good satisfaction ratings, reliable network, lower prices. But their coverage isn't perfect, and they have a 4G network that's already outdated.
T-Mobile: Generally good satisfaction ratings, low prices. But like Sprint, their coverage is sub-par. Fake 4G (HSPA+) network, and doesn't even plan to develop a real 4G network for a few years. Likely will soon be part of AT&T.
AT&T: Terrible satisfaction ratings; the only carrier that's actually getting worse. Unreliable network. Has begun work on an actual 4G network (despite advertising HSPA+ as 4G like T-Mobile), but it's not active anywhere yet. Oh, and if you want to talk about mistreating Android: did you know that until just last month they didn't allow sideloading of apps?
Verizon: Has the widest-ranging, most reliable network. Tops consumer satisfaction ratings year after year (though Sprint is catching up). Has the fastest and most advanced (in both technology and deployment) 4G network, by far. And believe it or not, Verizon actually tends to be a bit more customer-friendly than other carriers. For example: they were the first to prorate early termination fees, and while they will eventually have capped data plans they've also said they'll roll out shared family data plans, something nobody else has talked about.
The consumer satisfaction ratings I'm citing, by the way, are Consumer Reports' -- you could probably find them via some Googling.

What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
Ill type it twice because your memory must be really short.
What motivates you guys to give money to either samsung or verizon after the the crap they've pulled with the fascinate?
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Why?
1 look at our options. Inferior screens across the board. Singlecored great phones for now, but what about next year. Overall design, few other phones are as sleek.
2 community development. Other than the nexus series or og droid, what other phone has been this great for customizing. Yes I know the driver issues are crap, but have you ever seen a bricked sgs without physical damage?
3 verizon for much of the country is the only choice. I'm not happy about it but there are simply no other options for some. If I found out tmo worked in my area I would drop verizon today.
4 and last, it seems manufactures are learning. samsung donating a sgs2 to the cyan team might just might indicate a reversal in previous ways of thinking.
If nothing else, it comes back to what other choice is there. Name any other option and there is a list of cons to go with it.
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rand4ll said:
Because the frequency band they are using currently...lte technology benefits exponentially on wider frequencies...fastest they can get on 5ghz is around 25mbps
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Wrong! We've hit 57mbps. Reason why it'll be slower speeds is because it will be "real world" with multiple users as apposed to 1 user testing the max speeds. Also they are going to cap the data throughput.

BGR says iPhone 5 to be Sprint exclusive with WiMAX?

http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/03/sprin...rom-apple-launching-the-iphone-5-exclusively/
Well, this is interesting... Just wanted to see what everybody thought. I'm scratching my head about it, considering the following thoughts:
- WiMAX?
- It is rumored to only be exclusive until Q1 next year when AT&T/Verizon will get LTE iPhones
- $20 billion invested to guarantee the purchase of 30.1 million iPhones over 4 years.
- I don't think Sprint can bet the house on something like this.
Just trying to wrap my head around it and wanted some other educated opinions...

No way that would happen

As much as I've been considering switching to the iPhone on Sprint when I could, if this is true I think I'd rather they'd dropped that $20B into the network.

I also read that the reveal of the iphone 5 tomorrow will be highly unlikely because there were no leaks whats so ever of this phone. In the past, every new iphone had a leak right before the reveal, but since the reveal is tomorrow and since the hardware specs points to a 4S rather than a new iphone, i think it's gonna be a while till we hear about the iphone 5.
that would be nice if sprint payed out to get an exclusive iphone 5 for a couple of months, but i think its unlikely. The whole $20b story, sadly, is true.

I almost think it has some validity considering the "Operation Leapfrog" rumor that was floating around recently. Having a WiMAX iPhone 5 exclusive with unlimited data at $79.99 for 6 months would yield some pretty significant sales for them, but until they roll out that EVDO rev. B/1X advanced network that was rumored, I think the iPhone would rape Sprint's 3G network the same way the AT&T's EDGE network.

So is this an apple forum or a evo forum
The iphone 5 is just another way apple is ripping people off.

Actually, we were more talking Sprint's business plans, but go ahead and troll it up if that's the only intelligent thought you can put into this thread. Kthnxbye
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Dump in 20b on one phone yet post quarterly losses year after year.....something don't make sense here. Besides betting on one phone to save you as sprint has done numerous times, ie: palm pre. Lol
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I really hope this not true... I know that sprint is kinda low when it comes to available cash but to shell out 20B* to carry an exclusive phone when their network has some areas where it could be improved sounds more like an impulsive decision instead of a well thought one. Investment-wise it might look like the push Sprint needs to get customers to their network (also because of they can use the shiny phone with unlimited data) but seems high risk.
*I am aware this is not a $20B cash-now type of deal... more like a sales agreement but still means that Sprint must dedicate more resources like advertising and training to encourage the sale of the Apple devices instead of any other.

Well I have to believe that Dan Hesse and the board are thinking that they need new subscribers (contract, not prepay) to start generating revenue so they can start upgrading their network. If the iPhone launches and cripples their network, it could possibly be the deathblow that finally ends it all. Or this could be a huge deal for them that finally gives them the kick in the shorts they need to realize their network is their Achilles' heel and actually fix it.
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tempe38 said:
As much as I've been considering switching to the iPhone on Sprint when I could, if this is true I think I'd rather they'd dropped that $20B into the network.
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Great post! put the money into the network. they didnt need exclusivity as they still offer the best value of the 3. They could of still released the iphone and applied that investment towards the network. Now they will bring on a great device, without the data network to back it up. People will say it sucks and it will fail. Bad move sprint. Unless Hesse has something else up their sleeves. who knows.

if the iphone comes to sprint tomorrow im leaving to tmobile's new $30 unlimited data/text plan, im not going to deal with sprint's ****ty 3g speeds because their network is poorly maintained and they wont invest in it.

I kinda figured the iPhone 5 would be sprint's first LTE offering, well this just got interesting, I wonder what the 4G plan is Sprint is working on, u don't set those types of sales goals to announce the device is going to be out dated before it is released.
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detcup4evr said:
I kinda figured the iPhone 5 would be sprint's first LTE offering, well this just got interesting, I wonder what the 4G plan is Sprint is working on, u don't set those types of sales goals to announce the device is going to be out dated before it is released.
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Heard from a Sprint guy they'll make the Wimax phones work on LTE somehow when Sprint launches LTE..using some type of converter. If that's possible....

clj575 said:
Heard from a Sprint guy they'll make the Wimax phones work on LTE somehow when Sprint launches LTE..using some type of converter. If that's possible....
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I'm hoping its possible because Sprint keeps rolling out these Wimax capable phones, and if they are starting LTE in 2012, they are gonna have a bunch of pissed off people stuck in 2 year contracts with ****ty Wimax 4g. It would be a slap in the face to lock someone in just to say o by the way were switching our 4G source, deal with it.
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.

Jayavarman said:
Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
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I'd rather wait for lte on Sprint. Wimax is pathetic, signal is flaky and coverage is down right horrible. And to top it off, bringing the iPhone to a crippled network could be the demise of Sprint. I know people are saying 3g has improved, but I have yet to see any changes. I've maxed out at 1500 down, but my normal speeds are around 300 kbps. Flooding this network with iPhones would be a terrible thing to do. Sprint should focus on network structure and leave the iphone to the data capping companies.
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
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That seems to be the rumor mill online, the listed report states that Verizon and ATT will get the iPhone 4s and then get the i5 in 2012. Sprint gets the i5 with 4g as an exclusive phone. This will definitely boost their sales this year and now I see why they are getting rid of premier plans and changing things around so when the the next version of the phone comes out you can't upgrade in one year and will be stuck paying full price for to upgrade.

So looks like no i5 announced today.
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Apple did not announce a completely new phone, just a redesign of an old one....
Sorry, kids, there’s no iPhone 5 this year. Instead,
Apple will start selling on Oct. 14 the iPhone 4S.
It has the same look and feel of the current iPhone 4,
but has updated internals. It uses the same A5 processor as the iPad 2,
has a full gigabyte of RAM and sports improved graphics capabilities.
It also has an updated, 8-megapixel camera with a resolution of 3,264-by-2,448. It also will record 1080p HD video with image stabilization.
• Yes, Sprint is getting the iPhone 4S, along with AT&T and Verizon. T-Mobile is not. If you listen carefully, you can hear T-Mobile executives whimpering quietly in the corner.​
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Sprints new network questions.....

After reading the announcement from this mornings strategy meeting I have a few questions bouncing around in my head. Was wondering if anyone here might know the answers. First, and most important, what happens to all the phones that are currently set for their 4g? Will they still work on the new network or is the change in band only for the 4g? I.e. if I were to buy a epic touch 4g would I still have 3g and the end of 2012 or would I have to buy another handset?
Secondly, wtf? Where did all the money go that I/we have been pouring into sprint for the 4g that most, myself included haven't been receiving? Is that the money that sprint just announced it would be spending to buy into apple? That's not what I signed up for.
Rant over.
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downyours said:
After reading the announcement from this mornings strategy meeting I have a few questions bouncing around in my head. Was wondering if anyone here might know the answers. First, and most important, what happens to all the phones that are currently set for their 4g? Will they still work on the new network or is the change in band only for the 4g? I.e. if I were to buy a epic touch 4g would I still have 3g and the end of 2012 or would I have to buy another handset?
Secondly, wtf? Where did all the money go that I/we have been pouring into sprint for the 4g that most, myself included haven't been receiving? Is that the money that sprint just announced it would be spending to buy into apple? That's not what I signed up for.
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They are committing to selling WiMax devices all though next year which implies support for much longer although they currently only have in place agreements with clearwire through the end of next year.
A crazed lady at the end of the call pissed the hesse and others off by questioning that they knew nothing about clearwire potential bankruptcy since they are 54% stake holders in the company. My take away is that sprint plans for Clearwire to fail and take the spectrum for themselves in bankruptcy court.
Oh but the epic 4g touch would take advantage of the 1x advanced 3g technology, but for 4G you are stuck with WiMax.

They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.

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They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.
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Exactly the argument that I was making. It would be pointless for anyone to buy new phones at this point. Which sucks because I really wanted to buy the epic touch or the nexus.
Basically they are writing checks that they can't cash. And they are going get it because they are practically forcing people to get new phones. They have announced 20 billion to be spent on apple over 4 years and now the new network which will cost who knows how much.
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They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.
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Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.

It looks like they will be continuing to support WiMAX until at least the end of 2012. They didn't really say what is happening after that, but I'm guessing that they'll still have significant WiMAX coverage through most of 2013.
From engadget:
The company plans for a rapid deployment of this new 4G network, with the first LTE markets and handsets to hit in mid-2012, and the full rollout mostly completed by 2013. Current subscribers signed up for WiMAX plans won't have to worry as their devices will continue to be supported throughout 2012.
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By the end of next year, Sprint aims to have a combined WiMAX/LTE population coverage of 176 million -- with 123 million covered by LTE and 76 million overlapping both. When the network build-out is nearly complete in 2013, the company should have over 250 million blanketed in LTE, far outstripping the stagnant 120 million served by WiMAX.
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stilesja said:
Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.
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Are you kidding? None of the iphone variants support 4g? The only difference is the att version supports HSPA+, which is certainly not 4g.
Also, nearly every phone sold will be upgradeable to 1x advanced, which considering this advanced 3g tech can reach speeds as fast or faster than current wimax, i don't think you'll be missing out on alot
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DiGi760 said:
It looks like they will be continuing to support WiMAX until at least the end of 2012. They didn't really say what is happening after that, but I'm guessing that they'll still have significant WiMAX coverage through most of 2013.
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This statement is a little inaccurate, as the statement made was that wimax devices will continue to be SOLD through 2012. As with nearly every cell technology, you can expect to still be able to utilize it for a long time.
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downyours said:
Exactly the argument that I was making. It would be pointless for anyone to buy new phones at this point. Which sucks because I really wanted to buy the epic touch or the nexus.
Basically they are writing checks that they can't cash. And they are going get it because they are practically forcing people to get new phones. They have announced 20 billion to be spent on apple over 4 years and now the new network which will cost who knows how much.
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One thing you need to remember is that this cost is spread out, so about 5bil a year, and sprint is nearing the start of the lightsquared deal, which will PAY sprint money...the figure i can't remember, but I think it was close to that same cost. So effectively, they may only be paying for the network upgrade.
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They are committing to selling WiMax devices all though next year which implies support for much longer although they currently only have in place agreements with clearwire through the end of next year.
A crazed lady at the end of the call pissed the hesse and others off by questioning that they knew nothing about clearwire potential bankruptcy since they are 54% stake holders in the company. My take away is that sprint plans for Clearwire to fail and take the spectrum for themselves in bankruptcy court.
Oh but the epic 4g touch would take advantage of the 1x advanced 3g technology, but for 4G you are stuck with WiMax.
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That lady was a complete idiot. She argued against sprint spending 6bil on a new LTE network (that's nearly half complete mind you) when it would only take 600mil to upgrade clearwires network to LTE. What she seriously failed to understand is that clearwires total footprint is much less than 1/10th of the projected total footprint that will be covered by sprint's 1900mhz lte, and therefore this is more cost effective. She sounded like a typical misinformed PTA member.
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Just go about your business and buy phones when you need them and stop worrying about this bs and people will come to sprint for the iphone cuz they will want unlimited data. I would not be with another carrier simply because I would go over 2 gb every month and f**k a $200 + every month that's just retarted
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jbadboy2007 said:
Just go about your business and buy phones when you need them and stop worrying about this bs and people will come to sprint for the iphone cuz they will want unlimited data. I would not be with another carrier simply because I would go over 2 gb every month and f**k a $200 + every month that's just retarted
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Sprint just slapped a limit on "wifi tethering" data to 5GB. What makes you think they won't do something similar to "handset" data once iPhone users come crawling around the corner?
I really think that was a step in the wrong direction for Sprint considering what people already pay to get wifi tethering... Now they have to pay the same price and get a big fat limit on their service... Not even grandfathered in to the new policy either

Cuz the unlimited data is the only reason that new iphone users would stay. During the strategy meeting dan hesse said over and over that sprints brand is unlimited data and they are changing the rest of the company to fit that brand. So honestly you have nothing to worry about as far as your phone goes
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stilesja said:
Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.
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people will still come to sprint man. no iphone supports 4g capability at all yet in the US. people will come for the unlimited data and cheaper price plan. i know im adding a line to my account to get one. im no apple fanboy but the phone is pretty sweet so ill have my epic and iphone. Im deff waitin on LTE network to deploy before upgrading my epic tho. pic has ben hands down best phone ive ever had and wouldnt settle for anything without a keyboard

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Cuz the unlimited data is the only reason that new iphone users would stay. During the strategy meeting dan hesse said over and over that sprints brand is unlimited data and they are changing the rest of the company to fit that brand. So honestly you have nothing to worry about as far as your phone goes
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That shut me up. Finally, someone in the community who answers questions instead of snyde comments. Thank you <3

[NEWS] Sprint to end deal with lightSquared

Thought I'd share this
http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=2211

Thanks for posting this. So now who are they going to use for LTE?

I think they are is going with Lightsquared. Found the article in the link below.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...its-network-vision-plan-is-still-on-schedule/

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Thanks for posting this. So now who are they going to use for LTE?
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I believe they're still going with Lightsquared. After all the 1600mhz band they're referring to belongs to Lightsquared, not Sprint. Sprint is still planning on rolling out LTE over their existing 1900mhz band.

Ron Overdrive said:
I believe they're still going with Lightsquared. After all the 1600mhz band they're referring to belongs to Lightsquared, not Sprint. Sprint is still planning on rolling out LTE over their existing 1900mhz band.
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So they are going to have 2 bands of LTE?

No if you read it says Sprint is terminating the agreement unless LightSquared meets their conditions on some interference issues. This is why I'm going to Verizon after my contract is up. At least then I'll have good 4G where I live and a decent LTE device to use it on. The Evo Shift will not magicaly turn into a LTE device once they get the network up and running. Unless sprint rolls out with something really good before the end of this year I'm leaving sprint.

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No if you read it says Sprint is terminating the agreement unless LightSquared meets their conditions on some interference issues. This is why I'm going to Verizon after my contract is up. At least then I'll have good 4G where I live and a decent LTE device to use it on. The Evo Shift will not magicaly turn into a LTE device once they get the network up and running. Unless sprint rolls out with something really good before the end of this year I'm leaving sprint.
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All signs point to GNexus launch on April 15th. HTC One S is also rumored to hit us this year (I'd say probably late summer/early fall). There's still another big electronics expo thing this year, I believe, so there's a possibility we'll see more phones then.

Link below adds a little more fuel to the fire. One thing I'm not seeing in all these leaks, and rumors. A device with a physical Ketboard. But anyway check the link below, good read
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-codenamed-jet-and-possibly-arriving-in-june/
TEAM MiK
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I've been thinking about leaving Sprint as well. With the extra $10 a month they wanted when 4g first came out and now the shaky prospects of if Sprint will even use WiMax or LTE has just put me over the top on the extra $240 over the lifetime of the contract I'm paying for "the possibility to use more bandwidth".
3g where I live is at best 100K download (maybe 400k late at night). Unless they can secure full 4g coverage in the areas I use my phone and offer me a drop dead sexy deal on a phone when my contract comes up I'm most likely going to bail.
I would have bailed back when they changed the family plan with company discounts but figured the extra $7 a month wasn't worth the effort... Now I'm wishing I had made the attempt.

I'm staying with sprint for the unlimited data and San Antonio is one of the first cities to get LTE so thats a bonus for me
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I'm staying with sprint for the unlimited data and San Antonio is one of the first cities to get LTE so thats a bonus for me
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Yeah true but you don't know what LTE devices they will have. What if it's all crappy phones to start. The Evo Shift will NEVER be a LTE device and therefore will NEVER be able to use LTE services.

retiredhp2200 said:
I've been thinking about leaving Sprint as well. With the extra $10 a month they wanted when 4g first came out and now the shaky prospects of if Sprint will even use WiMax or LTE has just put me over the top on the extra $240 over the lifetime of the contract I'm paying for "the possibility to use more bandwidth".
3g where I live is at best 100K download (maybe 400k late at night). Unless they can secure full 4g coverage in the areas I use my phone and offer me a drop dead sexy deal on a phone when my contract comes up I'm most likely going to bail.
I would have bailed back when they changed the family plan with company discounts but figured the extra $7 a month wasn't worth the effort... Now I'm wishing I had made the attempt.
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Sprint 4 lyfe!! Well at least for the next 2 years...

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Yeah true but you don't know what LTE devices they will have. What if it's all crappy phones to start. The Evo Shift will NEVER be a LTE device and therefore will NEVER be able to use LTE services.
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if the one x does come to sprint I might get it but I'm not big on 4g as it is. I rarely use it so I can wait for a slider no problem
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
if the one x does come to sprint I might get it but I'm not big on 4g as it is. I rarely use it so I can wait for a slider no problem
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Yeah june 10th
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...int-on-june-10th/&category=classic&postPage=1
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Also looking at the pic from above post it looks like a purly AOSP OS and not HTC Sense If that's the case that phone will be mine

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Also looking at the pic from above post it looks like a purly AOSP OS and not HTC Sense If that's the case that phone will be mine
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Isn't that Sense 4.0? They made it more AOSP like with the dock

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I'm staying with sprint for the unlimited data and San Antonio is one of the first cities to get LTE so thats a bonus for me
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I agree, can't wait for the LTE, hopefully one x. I need some LTE in my life. San Antonio ftw
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Isn't that Sense 4.0? They made it more AOSP like with the dock
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Yeah I guess your right and I saw a video of it and it looks really nice still! From what I was reading Sprint is planning on doing away with unlimited data and put a cap on it like all the other carriers.

sparksco said:
Yeah I guess your right and I saw a video of it and it looks really nice still! From what I was reading Sprint is planning on doing away with unlimited data and put a cap on it like all the other carriers.
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I was afraid that was going to happen. All great things have to come to an end
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sparksco said:
Yeah true but you don't know what LTE devices they will have. What if it's all crappy phones to start. The Evo Shift will NEVER be a LTE device and therefore will NEVER be able to use LTE services.
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Of course it won't. Neither will any of the current phones that are out. You'd obviously have to upgrade to use LTE no matter what carrier you're on, so what's the big deal? It's no different than upgrading from whatever your previous phone was to the Shift for the Wimax 4G.