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Mytouch 4g or G2?

I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!

Slide out keyboard over front facing camera anyday... g2

Its personal preference. Both have advantages over the other. The MyTouch4G has a front facing camera, 256MB more ram and is slimmer. The G2 has a full physical keyboard, more solid design, better dev support.

the mytouch series is a joke. they're for people who dont really know what android is and its capabilities.
g2. any day.
or if its your cup of tea, wait for the nexus s.

Nexus S. Buying a mt4g is a joke right now.
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I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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nivlac978 said:
I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch

Vandam500 said:
Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.

Vandam500 said:
Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.

bradleymor said:
Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Well it may not be real "4G" but I get 4G like speeds

going_home said:
Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.
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Remember the G2 has full support from the ROM makers. It will get Gingerbread pretty soon via XDA. I say matter of weeks, maybe days after the Gingerbread source has been released

bradleymor said:
Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics. I do agree that its lame to exclude some of the things excluded on the Nexus S, including 4G.
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G2 if you type a lot and want almost stock Froyo
Mytouch4G if you want a front facing camera and don't mind TMobile's HTC sense
But then again this is XDA, you can root and get whatever lovely ROM a developer has cooked up on your phone. So it just comes down to hardware if you want to root it.

sinistersai4d4d said:
Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics.
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Not to mention at current speeds (whatever you want to call them) it's very easy to eat through your entire monthly bandwidth cap in an afternoon. Given this, wtf is the point of more speed? I'd take a higher cap over more speed any day of the week at this point.

sinistersai4d4d said:
Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G.
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EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !

I got the G2 and my wife picked the white MyTouch 4G. Personally, I think the G2 is better (obviously). It has a hardware keyboard, better dev support, stock Android (with a *really* easy HTC Sense port, since the Desire Z is the same hardware).
Preferences aside, the MyTouch line is really.....plasticky. When I use her phone, the plastic squeaks like crazy - that annoys me like no other, especially on such a 'high-end' phone.

steviewevie said:
EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !
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Thank you. Peoples need to understand this. 4G by ITU-R standards is only available through networks with IMT-Advanced, and trust me....NO network has that capabilities yet......
With that aside,I'd go with the G2!! More industrial feel, not plasticky like samsung and mytouch 4g. Even the nexus S won't feel as good as the G2, even with the better hardware.
I wish Google would have stayed with HTC for the second Nexus.

keyboard or NO keyboard, that is the question..

I went with the Desire Z for a few reasons:
Great Developer Support
GREAT Build Quality - I HATE phones that are made of any plastic/cheap material
QWERTY Keyboard - I send upwards of 100 Messages a day between SMS and Email
New Generation Processor - The 800mhz was a disappointment to me when I read the specs, but after reading of its over-clocking capabilities and having run mine at 1.4ghz for the past few weeks, this is a huge advantage of the G2/Desire Z.

Soo.. the Thunderbolt?

can someone please explain to me whats the Hype with the Htc Thunderbolt? isnt it basically a Evo with a bump in Ram and Verizon suppose Lte Network? More or less what we have had with the evo for a while now.?

Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.

It's hyped because verizon is finally getting something to compete with us
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8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
source for spec check: phonearena.com

xfullmetal17 said:
8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
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I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.

Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt

mattykinsx said:
I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.
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Yeah it is but is the same evo just redesign more like evo 1.5
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phatmanxxl said:
Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt
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Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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mattykinsx said:
Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.
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Anyone who truly believes this, is an ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.

popular nobody said:
Anyone who truly believes this, is a ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.
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An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.

mattykinsx said:
An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.
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Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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jgalan14 said:
Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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Well that only matters if you care about sense, but it's been suggested [and is completely realistic] that the Evo/Evo Shift will be getting the new sense.
As far as the core it's pretty much the same exact one as in the Evo Shift except instead of clocked at 800 mhz it's clocked at 1GHZ.
So, at best, it's an extremely minor spec bump from the Evo Shift.

That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...

xfullmetal17 said:
That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Um... why couldn't an 800mhz core get it too??

xfullmetal17 said:
That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Well the extra MHz doesn't really give u update as Google said it they never put how much you CPU has to be to run gingerbread 800GHz should be more then enough , it all depends on HTC and Sprint
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People seem to be in denial that the Evo isnt the best phone on the market anymore. And honestly the LTE alone was enough to make me switch. If you want to see the huge differences, look at the benchmark comparisons on youtube between the thunderbolt and the evo. It's not even remotely close.

Thunderbolt has a fatter kickstand and they put a larger speaker behind the kickstand. Pretty neat.
The HTC Thunderbolt (ADR6400 codename "Scorpion or Mecha") will be the first 4G LTE smartphone on Verizon Wireless. It is a CDMA variant of the HTC Desire HD. It was first announced at CES on January 6, 2011. This phone is to be considered the flagship phone for Verizon, going head to head with the HTC EVO.
In addition to 4G service, the Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
You can run gingerbread on your phone clocked down to 250 MHz. Animations will be choppy but it'll run just fine. So all this B.S. about mhz is b.s.

strung said:
Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
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orly?
10char

To be fair, simultaneous voice and data over 3G will be possible with Sprint as well. Verizon just happened to drop a phone that will use it first. The chipset wasn't ready when EVO was in production.Inspire 4G and HTC Thunderbolt is of the same cloth, but a minor spec to the EVO Shift, which is a carbon copy of the G2? That's just inviting the flames. Verizon's answer to the EVO was the Droid X, not the TB. People don't understand how long the EVO was being worked on by HTC and Sprint. It was a true flagship. HTC Pyramid is a true flagship, so keep your eyes on it at CTIA.

jgalan14 said:
Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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You mean that made up patched up coverage map of roaming agreements?
my 3g and 4g speeds are crazy, i normally get between 800k-1.1mbps on 3G and like 7 or 8mbps on 4G. the last major 3G speedtest done rated At&t 1st over 3G (where its available), and Sprint came in at 2nd place. ive NEVER had any signal issues with sprint. And i travel frequently. the truth of the matter is the Sprint vs Verizon battle is never ending, but at the end of the day, it only matters if it works where YOU need it to work at.
Now, I will say that we all know about sprints recent 3G data speed troubles, but im sure they will have it fixed soon. ****ty, but true.
As far as the thunderbolt goes, Im not envious of it at all. The new Snapdragon core + more ram is better, but other than the its just the Evo, with a LTE radio in it. Better than the Evo? yes. Enough to make me switch? No chance

Moto Atrix (Dual C) vs Epic

Just watched a demo of the MOTO Atrix dual core....wow the scrolling is horrible. Side by side with the Epic, the differences are HUGE! It's hard not to smile knowing that the EPIC still dominates even dual core offerings.
I noticed it's an ATT "4G" phone, so after going to ATT site and clicking their 4G link, it took me to a map of blue colored coverage, which oddly enough looks EXACTLY like their 3G coverage. Upon further examination, that's EXACTLY what they show you, the 3G coverage. There are but a small handful of cities that actually implement TMOs HSPA+ '4G'. Just like apple, att using their 'full of ****' marketing practices. It's really sad how much $ apple and att has made selling inferior hardware and service for twice that of which I pay for the Epic on Sprint.
I have 2 Epics, with unlimited everything (except the landline 1500min pool), and both phones plans combined is cheaper than 1 iphone with unlimited everything, except the 4GB worth of data. And that's 3G data!
Man that's so sad. I can't believe how many fools there are out there.
Samsung can't get Froyo right to save their life, but even the Eclair Epic is a better choice than the Atrix.

Atrix makes sammiches tho

Atrix? Meh.

NoSoMo said:
Just watched a demo of the MOTO Atrix dual core....wow the scrolling is horrible. Side by side with the Epic, the differences are HUGE! It's hard not to smile knowing that the EPIC still dominates even dual core offerings.
I noticed it's an ATT "4G" phone, so after going to ATT site and clicking their 4G link, it took me to a map of blue colored coverage, which oddly enough looks EXACTLY like their 3G coverage. Upon further examination, that's EXACTLY what they show you, the 3G coverage. There are but a small handful of cities that actually implement TMOs HSPA+ '4G'. Just like apple, att using their 'full of ****' marketing practices. It's really sad how much $ apple and att has made selling inferior hardware and service for twice that of which I pay for the Epic on Sprint.
I have 2 Epics, with unlimited everything (except the landline 1500min pool), and both phones plans combined is cheaper than 1 iphone with unlimited everything, except the 4GB worth of data. And that's 3G data!
Man that's so sad. I can't believe how many fools there are out there.
Samsung can't get Froyo right to save their life, but even the Eclair Epic is a better choice than the Atrix.
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i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms

Good.luck with the custom kernels on the atrix.
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Atrix > Epic > Evo
Multi-cores are the future, lets not have a redundant debate on how multi-cores aren't useful until apps and games are optimized for them, we all know how that ended up when PC's went multi-core; And lets not be like the EVO folks who were in denial when the Epic came out.

brian2220 said:
i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms
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That I agree about the service here... T mobile 3G is faster than our 3G...
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ghostrid3r said:
Atrix > Epic > Evo
Multi-cores are the future, lets not have a redundant debate on how multi-cores aren't useful until apps and games are optimized for them, we all know how that ended up when PC's went multi-core; And lets not be like the EVO folks who were in denial when the Epic came out.
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i am in denial but I cant wait till cm7 gets here for my girls phone

My friend who I have known for 8 years bought the Atrix with the Dock and everything spending $500+. Personally, I would have not invested so much in a device that is not going to easy to make custom kernel's for. Matter of fact, its a locked boot loader which means you are screwed. Even Cyanogen himself said today that he would support the device had it not been for that fact. Still, its kinda cool, but makes developing for it a lot ( LOT ) harder than it should be.
Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?

heathmcabee said:
My friend who I have known for 8 years bought the Atrix with the Dock and everything spending $500+. Personally, I would have not invested so much in a device that is not going to easy to make custom kernel's for. Matter of fact, its a locked boot loader which means you are screwed. Even Cyanogen himself said today that he would support the device had it not been for that fact. Still, its kinda cool, but makes developing for it a lot ( LOT ) harder than it should be.
Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?
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Not the first moto device with a locked boot loader, anything and everything is hackable. Period.
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Yet they make the XOOM developer friendly. Go figure, why would they not choose this with the phone? Do we have the provider to blame? Is it what they want for their phone systems, or are we just being put to a test to see how far developers can push the envelope with the newest phones to make custom roms/kernels?
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XOOM is a "flagship device" all of google's flagship devices are the first to ship with the OS and are VERY developer friendly so far the list is G1,Droid,Nexus 1, Nexus S, XOOM

Honestly, I can not stand AT&T. They have the same pricing as Verizon, yet they're inferior (network wise) to Sprint. The only reason they had a chance in the mobile market industry is because of the iPhone (which I still prefer Android over).
Now that Verizon has iPhone, ATT will probably be bought out by another carrier, or something weird.

brian2220 said:
i have both the epic and the atrix
the epic has its winning points and the atrix has its also
the att 4g coverage is 3x better then sprint service in phoenix
its all personal opinion of what people think
i love the atrix 4g and dont really care for the epic because i live in a blind spot but i love the work that is done with the roms
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LOL -- ATT....did someone just defend ATTs service???
Sprint's CLEAR division has LTE in Phoenix running 100Mb down and peak 47Mb uploads.........ATT probably runs their whole network off of one of the LTE connections.
There will always be someone who lives in a dead zone. WiMax ins't there yet, but between Sprint and Verizon's networks, Phoenix couldn't be covered any better. Roms allow for forced roam, which I had on my WinMo 6.5 phone.....and could switch between networks and roam 3G if I had a Sprint issue. It made for the most robust phone I've ever seen anyone in possession of (TP2 was quad band).

dcowboys2184 said:
That I agree about the service here... T mobile 3G is faster than our 3G...
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Their 'enhanced' 3G is quite fast....Got over 5Mb on my sisters Samsung Tab sitting 100ft in front of the tower....2Mb up. Damn't Sprint, unlock our WiMax UPLOAD already.......bandwidth is clearly available up and down, it won't do jack to the network if they let us full duplex. I mean, it's a phone..... I couldn't imagine FB pic uploads swamping the network with just a fraction of the HD YouTube streaming

Overstew said:
Honestly, I can not stand AT&T. They have the same pricing as Verizon, yet they're inferior (network wise) to Sprint. The only reason they had a chance in the mobile market industry is because of the iPhone (which I still prefer Android over).
Now that Verizon has iPhone, ATT will probably be bought out by another carrier, or something weird.
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Fck att,i hope they go under.Their costumer support is the worst,when I had iphone 3gs they acted like they were doing me a favor by me staying with them,lol.
I had tmobile and sprint since then and both of these carriers are light years ahead in terms of everything,dont know about verizon but I havent heard nothing bad about them.

lviv73 said:
Fck att,i hope they go under.Their costumer support is the worst,when I had iphone 3gs they acted like they were doing me a favor by me staying with them,lol.
I had tmobile and sprint since then and both of these carriers are light years ahead in terms of everything,dont know about verizon but I havent heard nothing bad about them.
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sprints customer service in stores sucks big time **** and thats another reason why i left.
some of the employees are just braindead and dont what is right or left
att and verizon are the best right now and because they know what they are doing and thats why they are so big
sprints barely getting its stupid company ass back in gear after all the years it was behind and watch it fall back down soon

brian2220 said:
sprints customer service in stores sucks big time **** and thats another reason why i left.
some of the employees are just braindead and dont what is right or left
att and verizon are the best right now and because they know what they are doing and thats why they are so big
sprints barely getting its stupid company ass back in gear after all the years it was behind and watch it fall back down soon
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Almost all store employees are dumb at any carrier.
What counts for sprint and tmobile is that they dont disconnect your service if you dont pay wkthing 2-3 days.I can be 2 weeks late with sprint and not get charged extra and not even have a warning from sprint.
Plus on sprint and tmobile I can download 80gb of movies a month,they dont have data cap.So if you use your phone as your primary internet then tmo and sprint is only choices.
I just wish I dint leave tmobile for sprint because speed was way faster on tmobile,and my promised sprint's 4g never came.

Yeah your ridge about Tue paying the.bill late. I've been late before and they don't even care.
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Yeah your ridge about Tue paying the.bill late. I've been late before and they don't even care.
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Lol at swype fail . Jk
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The atrix is a far more powerful device, but the first true dual cores will be powered by omap4 and perhaps 3rd Gen snapdragons or tegra3's. That's when it all really begins.

Moving to Verizon need hellpppppp.

I'm moving to Verizon because of complicated reasons. What phone should I get? I freaking love my evo and I have no clue what to get.
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Get a "full featured" flip phone so you dont have to worry about going over your limited data plan.

Thunderbolt seems like the obvious choice. It is the HTC flagship phone for Verizon. It is the Evo on steroids I believe

mattykinsx said:
Get a "full featured" flip phone so you dont have to worry about going over your limited data plan.
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Haha, I'll just get a env3. Oh yeah , look at me now 0.0
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I'd go incredible s.
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Thunderbolt.

Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.

The Thunderbolt really is an Evo on steroids, as lehalter said, and I think it's Verizon's best phone right now. The Droid Charge (Samsung) is nice too, but especially if you like Sense, Thunderbolt is the way to go. My dad just got it after having the original Droid, and he's really happy with it.
I'd have a hard time buying anything that's not LTE compatible on VZW right now, unless you live in the middle of nowhere and aren't likely to see LTE in the next 2 years. VZW's LTE network is everything we wish Sprint's 4G network was (well, except for cheap and soon, unlimited). That would knock the Incredible 2 and Droid X2 off my list, personally.

mattykinsx said:
Get a "full featured" flip phone so you dont have to worry about going over your limited data plan.
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If he has Verizon now, he can get true unlimited data.

Award Tour said:
If he has Verizon now, he can get true unlimited data.
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Maybe unlimited but throttled at the same time.

animal7296 said:
Maybe unlimited but throttled at the same time.
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I don't think it's conclusively been shown that Verizon is throttling LTE if you go over a certain cap. I honestly don't know the details, but I think it's safe to say that one would be better off getting on VZW now before the "unlimited" plan really does go away.
In any event, the OP said he needs to move to VZW and probably doesn't need us to try to talk him out of it. I think the question is just which VZW phone is going to be best for an Evo lover, and I think the Thunderbolt is a pretty clear choice.

I'd get the Droid charge.
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bkrodgers said:
I don't think it's conclusively been shown that Verizon is throttling LTE if you go over a certain cap. I honestly don't know the details, but I think it's safe to say that one would be better off getting on VZW now before the "unlimited" plan really does go away.
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They have openly admitted they throttle.
They've said its only the "top 5%"
(Whatever thats supposed to mean)
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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/verizon-will-throttle-data-for-the-top-5-of-users-and-optimize-content-for-all-2011023/

i just left verizon.. data throttling was pi$$ing me off, i use about 10 to 13 gigs a month and that was without tethering...
on the note of throttleing.. big v woiuld actually shut off my 3g connection and id be stuck with 1x for the rest of the day... also they are not friendly to tetherin.... DO NOT MAKE THIS INTO A TETHERING FIGHT
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i personally would go with the thunderbolt... even though it is "old tech" just to lock in the 4g unlimited now.
before anyone starts in... verizon's ceo has already announced that tiered data will start this summer... which so happens to be right before the dual cores hit...., and their dual core lte phones just so happened to have been "delayed" for "further testing".....whatever .......
Again i would stick with thunderbolt... DO NOT GO TO MOTO... moto has awesome phones and i hate to say it but personally any moto phone is 10 times better in hardware and some software than anyone else right now... however they all have encrypted bootloaders..
this means that yes you can have root access, however what this means is that ther are NO TRULY CUSTOM ROMS... think cyanogenmod and asop... also NO kernels, and no truly great upgrades...
dx is much better that evo .. however it is ristricted due to the encrypted bootloader... and no the bootloader will not be broken ....
plain and simple switch now to make sure you get unlimited 4g, or wait and take a chance, also again i would rec thunderbolt do to at least htc at this time is listening to its customers....

bjb_nyj101 said:
Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.
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First off... If he never wants to mod anything on his phone then yes, he should get something made by Motorola. Second... All he has to do is shut off the extra radio to save power. You do know that you are on the Evo section of the forum right? Most people on here have their WiMax radios turned off because they don't get WiMax in their area. The X2 only scores about 500-600 higher than the Thunderbolt on quadrant... and it has an entire extra core. Motorola can do better than that.

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i just left verizon.. data throttling was pi$$ing me off, i use about 10 to 13 gigs a month and that was without tethering...
on the note of throttleing.. big v woiuld actually shut off my 3g connection and id be stuck with 1x for the rest of the day... also they are not friendly to tetherin.... DO NOT MAKE THIS INTO A TETHERING FIGHT
back to the original topic...
i personally would go with the thunderbolt... even though it is "old tech" just to lock in the 4g unlimited now.
before anyone starts in... verizon's ceo has already announced that tiered data will start this summer... which so happens to be right before the dual cores hit...., and their dual core lte phones just so happened to have been "delayed" for "further testing".....whatever .......
Again i would stick with thunderbolt... DO NOT GO TO MOTO... moto has awesome phones and i hate to say it but personally any moto phone is 10 times better in hardware and some software than anyone else right now... however they all have encrypted bootloaders..
this means that yes you can have root access, however what this means is that ther are NO TRULY CUSTOM ROMS... think cyanogenmod and asop... also NO kernels, and no truly great upgrades...
dx is much better that evo .. however it is ristricted due to the encrypted bootloader... and no the bootloader will not be broken ....
plain and simple switch now to make sure you get unlimited 4g, or wait and take a chance, also again i would rec thunderbolt do to at least htc at this time is listening to its customers....
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So verizon would cut down your unlimited usage? WTF
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LexLuger82 said:
So verizon would cut down your unlimited usage? WTF
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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...f-users-and-optimize-content-for-all-2011023/

bjb_nyj101 said:
Obviously you should get the Droid X 2
Unless you live in an LTE area, and are dying to have your battery absolutely demolished. Then, you should get the Thunderbolt.
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yea the battery normally sucks but i rooted my buddies and tweaked it a bit he is now getting 8 - 9 hours ( LoL) with moderate usage
he was getting 5 - 6

depends where you live. if you are in a 4g area, get a Droid Charge... the screen alone will win you over and it gets better battery life than the thunderbolt.
If no 4g, get the incredible 2.
Be warned however, Verizon is having lots of issues with their 4g network and/or 4g handsets.

632627 said:
depends where you live. if you are in a 4g area, get a Droid Charge... the screen alone will win you over and it gets better battery life than the thunderbolt.
If no 4g, get the incredible 2.
Be warned however, Verizon is having lots of issues with their 4g network and/or 4g handsets.
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4G is in its infancy. No one has all the bugs worked out of there 4G . Give it a couple more years and it will be like 3G

EVo

What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...

Pivo187 said:
What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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specs: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3742
4g: the 4g will be the same $10 charge we pay for the current wimax 4g
Speed: no one knows how good the lte will be yet but it will almost definitely be above 2mbps since you can get about 5mbps on the current 4g and lte is much better.
Coverage: they just started rolling out lte so it will be a while before it covers anything near what verizon has. but if the rumors are true then we should have lte just about anywhere we have 3g at some point in the future
hope this answers your questions

Pivo187 said:
What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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For specs http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-4665.php visit here. In short, the screen on this phone has been voted by some, as the best on a smart phone yet; as well as the camera.
Id recommend on also do a comparison on 4g vs lte to see the true differences, but lte should bring a much faster network to us. In reality 2mb down is very slow for lte speeds, and in many areas it's common to get 15mb down or more.
Also, chances are that if you are not receiving 4g services currently, you will more than likely be one of the last ones to receive the lte service. LTE or not, this phone is definitely worth the upgrade on 3g alone.
Hope this helps you a bit.

Why is it def worth the upgrade for 3g alone? BTW I just started modding my evo 4g LoL maybe I should visit sprint & see how well the 4glite network is in my area...maybe wait til it goes full swing to 5mb like you said...also I just ordered exdended batteries 3 weeks ago!! lol

If you are still enjoying the EVO Og, and it is doing everything you need it to, there's nothing wrong with stick with it until more details emerge on the LTE network. For a lot of us, we've been flashing and modding since the phone first came out and it's time to move on.
A few big reasons to consider still switching over though are:
- Mod support - a large chunk of the top devs from OG Evo are making the switch, meaning, most of them will likely stop development on this phone.
- The battery life upgrade is going to make a huge difference, or at least we hope. Considering the fact that no one has one in hand yet, we don't have an accurate depiction of the actually battery life - but consider it safe to say that it will easily outlast the OG.
- Screen wise side-by-side it is night and day. Although OG screen isn't bad, a decent comparison is when you first made the switch from watching standard cable to hd (assuming you have).
- Processor is much, much, faster. This will allow for better game play, smooth transitions, and a better overall user experience.
I could literally write at least another 10 - 20 reasons on why to make the switch, but really no need. As I said, if you're still happy with the OG and don't feel the need to switch just yet, you likely will not miss out on much anyways.

Right I understand..Did they finally move the SD card location to the outside and not behind the damn battery...I hated that about the evo...When is the phone due to be out?

id_twin said:
If you are still enjoying the EVO Og, and it is doing everything you need it to, there's nothing wrong with stick with it until more details emerge on the LTE network. For a lot of us, we've been flashing and modding since the phone first came out and it's time to move on.
A few big reasons to consider still switching over though are:
- Mod support - a large chunk of the top devs from OG Evo are making the switch, meaning, most of them will likely stop development on this phone.
- The battery life upgrade is going to make a huge difference, or at least we hope. Considering the fact that no one has one in hand yet, we don't have an accurate depiction of the actually battery life - but consider it safe to say that it will easily outlast the OG.
- Screen wise side-by-side it is night and day. Although OG screen isn't bad, a decent comparison is when you first made the switch from watching standard cable to hd (assuming you have).
- Processor is much, much, faster. This will allow for better game play, smooth transitions, and a better overall user experience.
I could literally write at least another 10 - 20 reasons on why to make the switch, but really no need. As I said, if you're still happy with the OG and don't feel the need to switch just yet, you likely will not miss out on much anyways.
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Wondering how long I can keep it going. If it could rum ics like sense 1.0 it would hold it own. The devs are working hard. Hats off for the efforts. So funny I will run a rom with broken features when it is perfectly capable but yet we press forward for something better. Nothing wrong with that.
Come on little evo...
Come on devs...
And thank you for your hard work.
Next flash? OK...
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The speculation is that the phone will release on May 18th with pre-orders receiving them (possibly) early. And yes, the phone's micro-sd slot is no longer behind the battery, in fact, you will likely never see the battery ever unless you decide to take your's apart.

Yes. No need to worry. Get it. Now. It's in all our best interest. Do it.
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So we will not be able to upgrade the battery!? That sounds like a ****ty iphoney move...THat is one reason I hated the iphone among many others...But Im a power user & I have 3 spare batteries...I work offshore & my phone can only pull 1X so its constantly drawing massive amounts of power...I usually go thru 1 sprint 2600mah battery & about 50% of an anker 1700mah battery...2000mah is not going to cut it....
Also, will sprints lte network actually work & be widespread...I have fears of the lte network never even being available somewhat like the evo 4g...I never once got to use 4g on it...BTW verizon 4g is amazingly fast & very widespread, tested it out on a friends razor max

Pivo187 said:
So we will not be able to upgrade the battery!? That sounds like a ****ty iphoney move...THat is one reason I hated the iphone among many others...But Im a power user & I have 3 spare batteries...I work offshore & my phone can only pull 1X so its constantly drawing massive amounts of power...I usually go thru 1 sprint 2600mah battery & about 50% of an anker 1700mah battery...2000mah is not going to cut it....
Also, will sprints lte network actually work & be widespread...I have fears of the lte network never even being available somewhat like the evo 4g...I never once got to use 4g on it...BTW verizon 4g is amazingly fast & very widespread, tested it out on a friends razor max
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With Sense 4.0 and ICS in general, battery life should be amazing compared to our OG Evo. If I were you, wait a couple of months to see results of how battery life is from real world experience. People with the One X with the Quad core are reporting great battery life and their phones have a smaller battery (1800 mAh). The new Evo has a SoC, 28nm chip which will help wasting precious battery life and generate less heat, as well as its larger battery. Overall it seems to be a great phone with enough new quirks to help many upgrade from the OG for a better experience.
One thing that no one talks about is that at some point were expected to be able to ROAM on someones LTE network. (Most likely Verizon) We don't have that now because nobody is running WiMAX except Sprint. Good article about it on goodandevo.net
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Roam to verizons network?? How is that possible if EVO does not use SIM card...I thought to get on another carriers network you need their sim card...I almost jumped the gun due to the low price offered at wirefly..But after the promises of 4g on the first EVO never coming to light for me I Have decided to wait & see...My current evo does everything I need. Only gripe is the 4g that sprint promised which makes me think the same will happen with 4glite....Ive tried a razor max on verizons 4glte & it leaves sprint in the dust....Also, if the lte network is not up & working when the EVO lte is released & the evo lte has no working wimax then what network are you supposed to connect too? Sounds eerily similar to the EVO 4g launch

Verizon and Sprint phones, to the best of my knowledge stopped using SIM cards awhile ago. Sprint allows us to roam on Verizon when there's no Sprint coverage because Sprint signed a roaming agreement to use Verizon.
How were going to roam, I'm not 100% sure but I'm sure we will find out soon.
goodandevo.net/2012/03/here-is-sprints-future-lte-coverage-cap.html
Edit: this would be for the new EVO LTE, not the previous WiMAX versions. Just wanted to clarify.
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You won't be able to roam as sprints lte is at 1900mhz and Verizon is something totally different.
Should be a beast of a phone though. Lte is already live in a few cities and the LG viper lte is already out along with a Samsung lte phone.
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That's true but one can hope lol. But don't forget that Sprint is shutting down Nextels iDen network which will give us the 800 MHz frequency for better building penetration. At least we have that to look forward to in the future. I think Verizon is somewhere in the 700 MHz.
Maybe Sprint classifies some builder of LTE towers (sort of like ClearWire) are the future "roaming" areas that are the grey on the map from goodandevo.net?
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