Anyone know if Atrix 4g supports LTE as well? or Only HSPA+?
It would be a waste of money if the phone didn't support LTE and we have to get a new phone later this year to for LTE.
No LTE. It'll be a year at least until there's any solid LTE coverage so I'm not worried about it.
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Thought some of you might, or might not, like to read this:
http://www.slashgear.com/sprint-tea...n-as-2013-in-clearwire-negotiations-03137666/
elegantai said:
Thought some of you might, or might not, like to read this:
http://www.slashgear.com/sprint-tea...n-as-2013-in-clearwire-negotiations-03137666/
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Can someone explain what would happen if they do decide to go with LTE? Would that mean that places without 4g currently at the time of contract will have to wait now for LTE 4g network to be set up. Currently, I am in Michigan with no 4g and it sucks because I have had my Evo since last year waiting for 4g. Now all of a sudden Verizon and Tmobile have 4g in my city. WTF!!!
bsmoove386 said:
Can someone explain what would happen if they do decide to go with LTE? Would that mean that places without 4g currently at the time of contract will have to wait now for LTE 4g network to be set up. Currently, I am in Michigan with no 4g and it sucks because I have had my Evo since last year waiting for 4g. Now all of a sudden Verizon and Tmobile have 4g in my city. WTF!!!
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If it were to happen, which I still doubt (sprint has too much invested in wimax), it would take at least a few years. And during that time there would be a switchover from wimax phones to lte, so people probably wouldnt be affected too much.
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Can someone explain what would happen if they do decide to go with LTE? Would that mean that places without 4g currently at the time of contract will have to wait now for LTE 4g network to be set up. Currently, I am in Michigan with no 4g and it sucks because I have had my Evo since last year waiting for 4g. Now all of a sudden Verizon and Tmobile have 4g in my city. WTF!!!
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Well, Verizon doesn't have to deal with Clearwire, which is Sprint's WiMax provider. They are the reason that WiMax hasn't spread as much as it should. And TMobile's "4G" isn't even 4G, its just a beefed up 3G network. I know that Sprint's 4G towers can be "converted" into LTE towers by just a simple firmware update, but I am pretty sure the hardware in the phones that support WiMax can't be changed. I may be wrong though. I believe that's why Sprint is now releasing smartphones without 4G support, because of the uncertainty of their deal with Clearwire. Again, this is all just what I think, but honestly, I'd rather have TMobile's "4G" than have to deal with LTE. I really REALLY do not want to own an LTE device. I really hope that Clearwire can fix itself and start deploying more towers, because then we won't have to deal with LTE. But we'll see what happens.
From what I have read, once Sprint's infrastructure clean up happens they will have 800 mHz spectrum leftover from the iDen network. This could go to LTE.
Tuffgong4 said:
From what I have read, once Sprint's infrastructure clean up happens they will have 800 mHz spectrum leftover from the iDen network. This could go to LTE.
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Didn't the DoD buy the iDen network a while back? I thought they were supposed take over it after Sprint phased it out.
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From what I have read, once Sprint's infrastructure clean up happens they will have 800 mHz spectrum leftover from the iDen network. This could go to LTE.
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That's a no go at 800mhz for Sprint. The reason is because they only have 14mhz of spectrum there. LTE needs 20mhz of spectrum (I think there's something with TD-LTE that can get by on 15mhz, but they're still short there).
From what I've read, 800 mhz will go CDMA with PTT. If they wanted, they could use 10mhz of it for LTE, but would need to go to 1900mhz for any additional spectrum they would need. Because of this, it would make more sense to move their current CDMA service to 800mhz and install LTE at 1900mhz.
I just wanted to ask a question about the Nexus 4 for T-Mobile users specifically.
As many are probably aware T-Mobile in the US is refarming their spectrum to provide 42mbps speeds on the 1900mhz spectrum which will allow phones like the iPhone to get hspa+ speeds.
I don't care about the iPhone. I want to know what network speeds will be like for current handsets like the nexus 4 that get 42 Mbps right now.
I ask because I am currently in Boston with a gnex and when I first switched to T-Mobile network speeds kept getting better but within the last 6 months speeds have just gotten worse. I think the 1900mhz refarm may be to blame.
I would love to get 42Mbps speeds and this would be my main reason for upgrading to a nexus 4. But does the nexus 4 only support DC-HSPA+ on T-mobile's current bands or will it supports hspa+ (42mbps) on the 1900mhz bands as well. I ask because if this is not the case there is a serious issue of future proofing for this phone and I would probably wait for the next Nexus.
So just wandering if anyone knows more about this kind of stuff than me. Thanks!
Of course it will still get HSPA+:42
The reason your speeds are getting slower has to do with network congestion and 1900mhz should allow for a greater transmission
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure.
spitefulcheerio said:
Of course it will still get HSPA+:42
The reason your speeds are getting slower has to do with network congestion and 1900mhz should allow for a greater transmission
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Sorry to bring old post back up but this isn't correct. It will not be 1700mhz HSPA+ and 1900mhz HSPA+. It will be 1700 LTE, 1900 HSPA+. Currently HSPA+ is on 1700mhz. So it might be worse for the Nexus 4.
Maybe you can then enable the hidden LTE?
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So if I remember correctly T-Mobiles upcoming LTE network slated for a mid 2013 rollout, this network will use LTE band 4 the only band that works on our phone will they only be using band 4? And what frequency will they use, will it improve indoor coverage?
Also do you think we can use it on their monthly 4G prepaid plans? I hate signing contracts and paying out my ass per month.
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Yes they will be using Band 4 so that they will have their own LTE modified with their antenna which is easier for them, strange that they invested a lot but since iphone will be in tmobile, it might be worth it.
When LTE starts, there will an option if you are still in contract to pay an extra fee to gain this benefit.prepaid? don't think about LTE with prepaid, the strategy is to make you bind into a contract.
oh and about improvement on indoor coverage, it still depends how far you are within their antennas.
No coverage will likely not improve. They are using the same frequencies that their current HSPAP uses, so if your coverage sucks now, it will probably suck after LTE. You will not get LTE with prepaid. They will probably only use band 4, but LTE on this phone sucks anyways due to the battery drain.
I know T- mobile is rolling out their 1900mhz band across the US this year, and in the last few days I've noticed much better signal strength and I just ran a speedtest and was very impressed by the results. I've had better upload results but this is by far the fastest upload speeds I've seen on the mobile data network.
Showed the 'H' icon next to the signal bars, I wonder if our phones will ever show 'LTE'?
I know I'm getting 4G but never says 4G. Always just 'H'.
Anyway, here's a screen if the results:
http://db.tt/V0IaSyjO
Close to 20Mbps!
Haha, I, as well as many others in this forum have been getting 20-25 off HSPA 42. There is an internal setting in the Nexus 4 to enable LTE, and if you connect to LTE, it shows the appropriate symbol, too. Currently, the flavor of LTE that the Nexus likes is only available in Canada (and maybe other places, but not US yet as far as I know), but it's starting to get deployed in the US via T-Mobile. It started off in Las Vegas and Kansas, or will be starting off, so if you're not in either of those places, you probably don't have LTE.
AW: Are these speeds LTE level?
Look under Settings-About the phone- status, there you can see the type of connection
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Its always gonna say h. There are ROMS that replace the icon with a 4g icon but most of them leave them as is. That doesnt mean your not getting 4g , plus those speeds look very good to me
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Those speeds are excellent for 4g, but with lte you're going to see upload speeds as fast as your download speeds.
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Haha, I, as well as many others in this forum have been getting 20-25 off HSPA 42. There is an internal setting in the Nexus 4 to enable LTE, and if you connect to LTE, it shows the appropriate symbol, too. Currently, the flavor of LTE that the Nexus likes is only available in Canada (and maybe other places, but not US yet as far as I know), but it's starting to get deployed in the US via T-Mobile. It started off in Las Vegas and Kansas, or will be starting off, so if you're not in either of those places, you probably don't have LTE.
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All good to know.
I'm in Seattle regularly, which was one if the first places T-Mobile rolled out their 1900mhz LTE service, do how do I turn on this internal setting you mentioned?
Thanks.
Globespy said:
All good to know.
I'm in Seattle regularly, which was one if the first places T-Mobile rolled out their 1900mhz LTE service, do how do I turn on this internal setting you mentioned?
Thanks.
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T-Mobile isn't rolling out LTE on 1900mhz. That's just 3G.
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joshnichols189 said:
T-Mobile isn't rolling out LTE on 1900mhz. That's just 3G.
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Interesting, I've received different information. I've spoken with level 3 tech support numerous times about the roll out of their 1900mhz band during 2013 across the US, and they confirmed that their version of LTE will use the 1900mhz frequency (which, incidentally is the most highly used global frequency for high speed data - I'm a British and Australian Citizen as well as US Citizen and use my phones worldwide). The 700mhz frequency is for Verizon LTE phones, so T-Mobiles decision to run 1900mhz will mean that AT&T customers can move to T-Mobile with their existing phones
Their current 3G and 4G runs on 1700mhz - of course your phone will only get 4G if it's hardware capable of 4G.
Here's an article that will explain it all for you:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/4GNetworkEvolutionVendorsSelected
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Globespy said:
Interesting, I've received different information. I've spoken with level 3 tech support numerous times about the roll out of their 1900mhz band during 2013 across the US, and they confirmed that their version of LTE will use the 1900mhz frequency (which, incidentally is the most highly used global frequency for high speed data - I'm a British and Australian Citizen as well as US Citizen and use my phones worldwide). The 700mhz frequency is for Verizon LTE phones, so T-Mobiles decision to run 1900mhz will mean that AT&T customers can move to T-Mobile with their existing phones
Their current 3G and 4G runs on 1700mhz - of course your phone will only get 4G if it's hardware capable of 4G.
Here's an article that will explain it all for you:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/4GNetworkEvolutionVendorsSelected
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I don't need an article.. T-Mobile is deploying band 4 LTE over 1700/2100mhz frequencies. The 1900mhz band is being refarmed to HSPAP which will allow AT&T users to use HSPAP on T-Mobile. This also allows T-Mobile to stop using 1700/2100 for HSPAP since they will be using it for LTE.
If you are calling T-Mobile and expecting their "level 3 tech support" to know anything, you're doing it wrong.
Also the article you posted even proves my point.. "Refarming 1900mhz for '4G HSPAP'"
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Uhh
I don't need an article.. T-Mobile is deploying band 4 LTE over 1700/2100mhz frequencies. The 1900mhz band is being refarmed to HSPAP which will allow AT&T users to use HSPAP on T-Mobile. This also allows T-Mobile to stop using 1700/2100 for HSPAP since they will be using it for LTE.
If you are calling T-Mobile and expecting their "level 3 tech support" to know anything, you're doing it wrong.
Also the article you posted even proves my point.. "Refarming 1900mhz for '4G HSPAP'"
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Thanks for your clarification. Good to know that we will get LTE regardless as the phone supports all those bands.
And, yes their tech support had been I'll informed before.... I was hoping that since several different people had said the same thing that there was consistency... Seems consistently crap information. However, 1700mhz currently is 4G, so moving it to 1900mhz is to improve signal strength through buildings etc right?
I've since looked at comparisons between HSPA+ and LTE... seems that LTE has a significant edge uploading, not that great of a difference download (especially as download speeds are often limited by the site you visit, regardless of how fast your carrier speed).
I'm sure I'll be happy with HSPS+ as I rarely upload much more than photos I take on my phone camera, and current 4G is plenty sufficient as it is..
I see in setting - about device: mobile network HSDPA:9
But in status bar - 4G
Is it correct?
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Yes; hspa is 4g and LTE will show up as 4g LTE.
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That's normally.
AT&T tries to hock off their HSPA+ service as "4G" where it is really 3G service. 3.5G (Or 3.75G) if you want to get technical, since regular HSPA is 7.2mbit where AT&T's HSPA+ is 14.4mbit. When connected to LTE it display "4G LTE" on stock roms.
If you switch to any AOSP ROM, they will tell it like it is. Instead of 3G/4G it display "HSPA+". And when on LTE it displays "4G"
Just a ploy by AT&T marketing because Verizon was advertising they had great 4G (LTE), and AT&T's network was very far behind so they got FCC to classify HSPA+ as "4G" so they could advertise against Verizon, where in reality the service is not as great.
On my iPhone it used to display 4G whenever I was connected to any HSPA or HSPA+ tower. The tower at my house was only HSPA (Not HSPA+) as max speed I got was 5mbit/s on full signal. Yet it tried to play itself off as 4G. No AT&T...no...
Thank you for the clarification WoodburyMan.