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Any NYC T-Mobile USA owners getting 3G using 1900MHz/850MHz HSPA+ 84?

Any NYC T-Mobile USA owners getting 3G on their Samsung galaxy note using 1900MHz/850MHz HSPA+ 84?

The Note would need to have the 1.7 Ghz Module accessible, while the hardware is capable, the drivers/software has not been developed to allow support. You need both 2.1 GHz and 1.7GHz to make T-Mobile 3g work. 1700MHz band (actually its 1710MHz -1755MHz) is the upload freq, and the 2100MHz band (2110MHz - 2155MHz) the download. You need both or T-Mobile will kick the phone into Edge only(850Mhz).

What is this I don't even...
The Note is not an AWS-capable device, and the hardware does not support it. Band IV (AWS) will never work. Ever.

Croak said:
The Note is not an AWS-capable device, and the hardware does not support it. Band IV (AWS) will never work. Ever.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400816
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395971

Spartan2x said:
The Note would need to have the 1.7 Ghz Module accessible, while the hardware is capable, the drivers/software has not been developed to allow support. You need both 2.1 GHz and 1.7GHz to make T-Mobile 3g work. 1700MHz band (actually its 1710MHz -1755MHz) is the upload freq, and the 2100MHz band (2110MHz - 2155MHz) the download. You need both or T-Mobile will kick the phone into Edge only(850Mhz).
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i don't think you guys understood what he was saying
T-Mobile is supposedly testing out non-aws band for their data service and he's simply asking if anyone has tried it in nyc
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/17/2642763/t-mobile-3g-1900-iphone-hspa-84

read what the OP wrote, think about it, read it again because you just skimmed it the first time, think about it a lot harder, read it one more time for good measure and realize your response wasn't applicable, move on to the next thread..
Do that before responding guys.....
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ph00ny said:
i don't think you guys understood what he was saying
T-Mobile is supposedly testing out non-aws band for their data service and he's simply asking if anyone has tried it in nyc
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/17/2642763/t-mobile-3g-1900-iphone-hspa-84
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+1 for reading what the OP wrote before responding
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If someone was getting T-Mobile 3G on the 1900 band, don't you think someone would have posted it by now?

Nope. I'm still only getting EDGE in/near NYC. And slow EDGE at that.
I've been switching back and forth between my T-Mobile SIM and an AT&T mvno SIM. I'm getting decent speeds with the latter but dreaming T-Mobile will come through with the 1900mhz 3G.

Any updates on this? Some markets like Pittsburgh have this already right?

I keep hearing end of the year. My understanding is that T-Mobile is working to get current 2G users off the 1900Mhz band before refarming can occur. They had a pilot program in a couple of markets and there was some rumbling of a national rollout of that program possibly in September. I follow this very closely and there is still nothing concrete. I just asked about this in a T-Mobile store and they said they are expecting further information, but nothing yet, They are moving as quickly as they can as they need the iPhone and can't get it until the refarm is done.

Data on TMobile G2 w/ ATT gophone

I was wondering why I can only get EDGE on my TMobile G2 phone... is it because of the GSM incompatibility that some TMobile phones have with the ATT network or am I doing something wrong?

Does your phone support 1900 MHz UTMS? That would be a problem. If it does then use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked.
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MrObvious said:
Does your phone support 1900 MHz UTMS? That would be a problem. If it does then use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked.
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I got "connection problem or invalid MMI code" when I ran that.
Edit: Did a bit more research and it turns out that it does *not* support 1900 MHz UTMS for 3G, so basically, this phone + ATT network = no 3G service, as the hardware is incompatible.

M!x said:
I got "connection problem or invalid MMI code" when I ran that.
Edit: Did a bit more research and it turns out that it does *not* support 1900 MHz UTMS for 3G, so basically, this phone + ATT network = no 3G service, as the hardware is incompatible.
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Someone doing their own research? Get the hell out.
Actually, I don't think the G2 even does 3G on anything but AWS. The HTC Desire Z (identical but without carrier branding) has a version that supports AT&T 3G, however.

luftrofl said:
Someone doing their own research? Get the hell out.
Actually, I don't think the G2 even does 3G on anything but AWS. The HTC Desire Z (identical but without carrier branding) has a version that supports AT&T 3G, however.
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You are correct.
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MrObvious said:
Does your phone support 1900 MHz UTMS? That would be a problem. If it does then use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked.
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Can you explain what you mean by "use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked"? My Samsung phone can't get 4g service here on T-Mobile and it doesn't do 3G so I'd really like to enable HSPA+ if that's possible. I don't see anything on that screen that I can unlock though.

stevec5000 said:
Can you explain what you mean by "use *#0011# and make sure the bands are unlocked"? My Samsung phone can't get 4g service here on T-Mobile and it doesn't do 3G so I'd really like to enable HSPA+ if that's possible. I don't see anything on that screen that I can unlock though.
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Check which UMTS (3G) bands your phone supports - I suspect yours does not support T-Mobile's 3G band (IV). The information is usually available on wikipedia or gsmarena.
You do not "enable" 3G through software changes. Your phone supports it or it doesn't.

luftrofl said:
Check which UMTS (3G) bands your phone supports - I suspect yours does not support T-Mobile's 3G band (IV). The information is usually available on wikipedia or gsmarena.
You do not "enable" 3G through software changes. Your phone supports it or it doesn't.
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It does support band IV, 1700Mhz, but it doesn't do HSPA+ so it can't get 3G. That screen still doesn't tell me anything though.
GSMArena says it has 3G Networking on HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100 / 1900 but that's not true. There is no 2100Mhz band, not on mine anyway. Actually GSMArena isn't very complete or very accurate, it don't even list the model T959V!

stevec5000 said:
It does support band IV, 1700Mhz, but it doesn't do HSPA+ so it can't get 3G. That screen still doesn't tell me anything though.
GSMArena says it has 3G Networking on HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100 / 1900 but that's not true. There is no 2100Mhz band, not on mine anyway. Actually GSMArena isn't very complete or very accurate, it don't even list the model T959V!
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That's not how HSPA+ works - it's essentially just faster 3G. Also, I found your phone on GSMArena, not sure how you searched but the information is all there and it supports band IV (1700/2100) and I (2100).
Are you sure you've enabled 3G (or deselected "Use only 2G networks")?
What is the history of the phone (bought new, used, etc.)? It should "just work" on T-Mobile as it's T-Mobile branded but, no offense, your details are a little vague.

luftrofl said:
That's not how HSPA+ works - it's essentially just faster 3G. Also, I found your phone on GSMArena, not sure how you searched but the information is all there and it supports band IV (1700/2100) and I (2100).
Are you sure you've enabled 3G (or deselected "Use only 2G networks")?
What is the history of the phone (bought new, used, etc.)? It should "just work" on T-Mobile as it's T-Mobile branded but, no offense, your details are a little vague.
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Sorry if I was vague but it doesn't "just work" on T-Mobile! At first I though all Exhibit II models would be the same however they could have different versions like the Galaxy 2 that has an older version for 3G and a newer version that also now gets 4G, who knows.
The phone was purchased new a few months ago and is still stock. I know HSPA+ is faster 3G since I can get it on 1700Mhz on another device using the T-Mobile SIM from the Exhibit 2. Can't get HSPA+ or 3G on the Exhibit 2 though.
Yes the phone is on GSMArena but the info is not accurate, it claims the phone gets 3G and has a 2100Mhz band but that's not true. It only supports band IV on 1700.
There is no option to enable 3G or "Use only 2G networks". It has options for WCDMA (for 4G on 1700) or GSM (for Edge on 1900) but there is no setting in between for 3G or HSPA+. I tried setting it to WCDMA only but it defaults back to Auto using Edge unless I go to a T-Mobile store where they have a strong 4G signal that gives 5 bars. If I leave the store and go down the street there's no signal though.
I have verified that WCDMA for 4G is on 1700 and GSM for Edge is on 1900 using a spectrum analyzer but it never uses 2100 and has never used 3G anywhere in the Phoenix, Mesa or Scottsdale area, just Edge. There may be other modes and frequencies but I haven't been able to verify them.
If there is a way to turn on 3G I'd like to know what it is? Someone suggested dialing *#32489# clicking #3 then UTMS but that didn't do anything.

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Sorry if I was vague but it doesn't "just work" on T-Mobile! At first I though all Exhibit II models would be the same however they could have different versions like the Galaxy 2 that has an older version for 3G and a newer version that also now gets 4G, who knows.
The phone was purchased new a few months ago and is still stock. I know HSPA+ is faster 3G since I can get it on 1700Mhz on another device using the T-Mobile SIM from the Exhibit 2. Can't get HSPA+ or 3G on the Exhibit 2 though.
Yes the phone is on GSMArena but the info is not accurate, it claims the phone gets 3G and has a 2100Mhz band but that's not true. It only supports band IV on 1700.
There is no option to enable 3G or "Use only 2G networks". It has options for WCDMA (for 4G on 1700) or GSM (for Edge on 1900) but there is no setting in between for 3G or HSPA+. I tried setting it to WCDMA only but it defaults back to Auto using Edge unless I go to a T-Mobile store where they have a strong 4G signal that gives 5 bars. If I leave the store and go down the street there's no signal though.
I have verified that WCDMA for 4G is on 1700 and GSM for Edge is on 1900 using a spectrum analyzer but it never uses 2100 and has never used 3G anywhere in the Phoenix, Mesa or Scottsdale area, just Edge. There may be other modes and frequencies but I haven't been able to verify them.
If there is a way to turn on 3G I'd like to know what it is? Someone suggested dialing *#32489# clicking #3 then UTMS but that didn't do anything.
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I don't know where to begin but let me get this straight...
-You bought a new Exhibit II from T-Mobile.
-It doesn't get 3G outside of the store.
-Your other T-Mobile compatible device gets 3G outside of the store.
-You've owned this same Exhibit II which hasn't been connecting to 3G for months.
On these points alone, am I understanding you correctly?

luftrofl said:
I don't know where to begin but let me get this straight...
-You bought a new Exhibit II from T-Mobile.
-It doesn't get 3G outside of the store.
-Your other T-Mobile compatible device gets 3G outside of the store.
-You've owned this same Exhibit II which hasn't been connecting to 3G for months.
On these points alone, am I understanding you correctly?
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Close but not quite correct, it doesn't get 4G outside of the store.
It can't get 3G at all anywhere!
Since there is no 4G network is there a way to turn on or enable 3G or is it hopeless?

stevec5000 said:
Close but not quite correct, it doesn't get 4G outside of the store.
It can't get 3G at all anywhere!
Since there is no 4G network is there a way to turn on or enable 3G or is it hopeless?
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In a previous post you said that you "know" what I'm talking about but clearly that is not the case.
What T-Mobile calls 4G is actually 3G with improvements to the backhaul as well as the radios on the phones - where T-Mobile has 4G, it also has 3G.
The point of my last post was to make it obvious that you have a defective phone. I shouldn't have assumed you would figure it as you haven't figured it out in the months you've owned a phone that obviously has reception issues.

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In a previous post you said that you "know" what I'm talking about but clearly that is not the case.
What T-Mobile calls 4G is actually 3G with improvements to the backhaul as well as the radios on the phones - where T-Mobile has 4G, it also has 3G.
The point of my last post was to make it obvious that you have a defective phone. I shouldn't have assumed you would figure it as you haven't figured it out in the months you've owned a phone that obviously has reception issues.
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Again not true! What they call 4G is using WCDMA but 3G is using HSPA+. 3G using HSPA+ has improvements that will allow it to go up to 20Mb but my Android phone doesn't have an option for 3G, just 4G using WCDMA. The people at the T-Mobile stores would beg to differ with you about the phone being bad since I've been to 5 T-Mobile stores and they say the phone works OK since it can get 4G on 1700Mhz in the store.

stevec5000 said:
Again not true! What they call 4G is using WCDMA but 3G is using HSPA+. 3G using HSPA+ has improvements that will allow it to go up to 20Mb but my Android phone doesn't have an option for 3G, just 4G using WCDMA. The people at the T-Mobile stores would beg to differ with you about the phone being bad since I've been to 5 T-Mobile stores and they say the phone works OK since it can get 4G on 1700Mhz in the store.
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Your posts are too long to be trolling, but it still feels like you are because everything you post is wrong.
In case you're not trolling:
-Your phone has hardware defects that are affecting how well it connects to 3G.
-The fact that you get reception in stores is likely because stores have signal boosters.
-Retail employees are idiots. They are trained to use the products just enough to sell them (read: not much) and aren't paid enough to attract anyone with half a brain to the position. Walk a block away from the store and show them that your phone doesn't connect to 3G (or "4G" if you still want to call it that).

stevec5000 said:
Again not true! What they call 4G is using WCDMA but 3G is using HSPA+. 3G using HSPA+ has improvements that will allow it to go up to 20Mb but my Android phone doesn't have an option for 3G, just 4G using WCDMA. The people at the T-Mobile stores would beg to differ with you about the phone being bad since I've been to 5 T-Mobile stores and they say the phone works OK since it can get 4G on 1700Mhz in the store.
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luftrofl said:
Your posts are too long to be trolling, but it still feels like you are because everything you post is wrong.
In case you're not trolling:
-Your phone has hardware defects that are affecting how well it connects to 3G.
-The fact that you get reception in stores is likely because stores have signal boosters.
-Retail employees are idiots. They are trained to use the products just enough to sell them (read: not much) and aren't paid enough to attract anyone with half a brain to the position. Walk a block away from the store and show them that your phone doesn't connect to 3G (or "4G" if you still want to call it that).
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Both of you are feeling like you're trolling.
It may be a tower issue or your phone. The only way to check is to use another phone.

USA unlocked with LTE?

will the N7100 or the N7105 work on Tmobile or AT&T's 4G? and will it work on Tmobile's HSPA+?

No LTE on international version.
You can get H+ on AT&T I know.. Not sure about tmo
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So what you're saying is there is no LTE chip in the international version, correct?

I'm using the international one on the AT&T. Just have the H+ only but speed is good.
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nmhung100 said:
I'm using the international one on the AT&T. Just have the H+ only but speed is good.
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Yep. I was contemplating selling mine and getting the LTE version (on contract) but HSPA+ is fast enough for Netflix in HD. Fast enough for me! Don't need the carrier bloat, contract extension and battery reduction.

I'm getting 5-8 Mbps down and 750-1,000 kbps up on Tmo in NYC with my N2.
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so what would you guys say? should I go for the Tmo version for LTE or international and skip the carrier bloat? I only have a 3G phone right now, is the increase in speed of LTE over HSPA+ a big enough deal? also will the international version work on Tmo HSPA+ or only on AT&T?

U should consider on battery consumption..i heard lte using high consumption battery..better ask community from att for note 2 thread it self..
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theoilman said:
so what would you guys say? should I go for the Tmo version for LTE or international and skip the carrier bloat? I only have a 3G phone right now, is the increase in speed of LTE over HSPA+ a big enough deal? also will the international version work on Tmo HSPA+ or only on AT&T?
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Uhh... if you want to use it on T-Mobile expect 2G speeds unless you're in an area where they've started or finished the 1900 MHz refarm (even if they do, it'll be pretty much limited to a city or county, but anywhere else you won't get 3G/HSPA speeds at all)
here's a link to a website with reported sightings of 1900MHz refarm on T-Mobile:
http://www.airportal.de/
Also, the T-Mobile version of the Note II has support for AT&T HSPA as its HSPA radio is a pentaband (so it'll work pretty much everywhere else on HSPA), also the radio of the T-Mobile version is DC-HSPA, or more commonly known as HSPA 42mbps whereas the Internaltional and AT&T versions have HSPA radios with support for only 21mbps. The T-Mobile version also has LTE bands for AT&T and the eventual T-Mobile LTE network, but is currently DISABLED in the software, so we'll have to wait to get that unlocked (I also heard there'll be requirement of a LTE SIM card, but I can't say that for a fact yet).
In essence, if you're going to spend ~$700, get the T-Mobile one, at least you'll have warranty, better signal on HSPA, LTE support later for T-Mobile and AT&T, and as a result, you'll get a better resale value when its time.

I'm using an unlocked TMIB on at&t and there's no LTE
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I'm using an unlocked TMIB on at&t and there's no LTE
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I wonder if that's because it lacks the right bands or just because it's disabled in the software?

achusaysblessyou said:
Uhh... if you want to use it on T-Mobile expect 2G speeds unless you're in an area where they've started or finished the 1900 MHz refarm (even if they do, it'll be pretty much limited to a city or county, but anywhere else you won't get 3G/HSPA speeds at all)
here's a link to a website with reported sightings of 1900MHz refarm on T-Mobile:
http://www.airportal.de/
Also, the T-Mobile version of the Note II has support for AT&T HSPA as its HSPA radio is a pentaband (so it'll work pretty much everywhere else on HSPA), also the radio of the T-Mobile version is DC-HSPA, or more commonly known as HSPA 42mbps whereas the Internaltional and AT&T versions have HSPA radios with support for only 21mbps. The T-Mobile version also has LTE bands for AT&T and the eventual T-Mobile LTE network, but is currently DISABLED in the software, so we'll have to wait to get that unlocked (I also heard there'll be requirement of a LTE SIM card, but I can't say that for a fact yet).
In essence, if you're going to spend ~$700, get the T-Mobile one, at least you'll have warranty, better signal on HSPA, LTE support later for T-Mobile and AT&T, and as a result, you'll get a better resale value when its time.
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thanks for the info! I'll prob get the tmobile version after all. I am in a refarm area according to your link, but I wouldn't want to be restricted to my area and lose good speeds when I drive somewhere else.

achusaysblessyou said:
In essence, if you're going to spend ~$700, get the T-Mobile one, at least you'll have warranty, better signal on HSPA, LTE support later for T-Mobile and AT&T, and as a result, you'll get a better resale value when its time.
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I'm using an unlocked TMIB on at&t and there's no LTE
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Exactly, achu, are you sure it's possible to get LTE working on T889 on AT&T's network in the future? Please be certain when you state so, because we already have enough mis-info here on the forum thanks to the Samsung's decision on making *this* many variants. (already 14 or so)

Guys, I have the tmo version. This thing is amazing, and now I'm thinking of buying another one to send to my brother in the philippines. Not sure which would be the best model to buy, tmo US version or international version? Anyone from the phils who can cobfirm the bands use and iis it hspa or lte or something else??
Thanks
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I'm getting 5-8 Mbps down and 750-1,000 kbps up on Tmo in NYC with my N2.
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I have an international N2 bought in France (N7100XXALIH), and I am having trouble to get the H+ in Atlanta with tmo even though it's fairly well covered. I am stuck with Edge (which is quite frustrating) and tried to flash a few radios without any success. The tech guy from tmo told me that only tmo-N2 can use H+ so what you wrote is encouraging. Did you guys use a specific modem? Or did it work straight out of the box? Please help.

Just put your phones mode to wcdma it will only force h+ settings> moresettings>mobile networks > network mode choose wcdma if ur area has h+ it will pick it up otherwise no signal wont default to edge
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Nyxagamemnon said:
Just put your phones mode to wcdma it will only force h+ settings> moresettings>mobile networks > network mode choose wcdma if ur area has h+ it will pick it up otherwise no signal wont default to edge
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I did this already and, as you mentioned, the phone defaults to no signal if no h+ is fetched, and is rendered unusable. However, my friend is able to pickup the h+ network with much more ease using a tmo GN1 (both phones operate on WCDMA in this case). So I suspect something with the radio rather than the hardware, no strong statement here. I tried to flash icsblaze and others without any success (actually had to recover my system several times due to major crash). Are there any tmo radios available for Jelly Beans?

[Q] Will Nexus 4 still get 42 mbps hspa+ after 1900mhz refarm?

I just wanted to ask a question about the Nexus 4 for T-Mobile users specifically.
As many are probably aware T-Mobile in the US is refarming their spectrum to provide 42mbps speeds on the 1900mhz spectrum which will allow phones like the iPhone to get hspa+ speeds.
I don't care about the iPhone. I want to know what network speeds will be like for current handsets like the nexus 4 that get 42 Mbps right now.
I ask because I am currently in Boston with a gnex and when I first switched to T-Mobile network speeds kept getting better but within the last 6 months speeds have just gotten worse. I think the 1900mhz refarm may be to blame.
I would love to get 42Mbps speeds and this would be my main reason for upgrading to a nexus 4. But does the nexus 4 only support DC-HSPA+ on T-mobile's current bands or will it supports hspa+ (42mbps) on the 1900mhz bands as well. I ask because if this is not the case there is a serious issue of future proofing for this phone and I would probably wait for the next Nexus.
So just wandering if anyone knows more about this kind of stuff than me. Thanks!

Of course it will still get HSPA+:42
The reason your speeds are getting slower has to do with network congestion and 1900mhz should allow for a greater transmission

Thanks. Just wanted to make sure.

spitefulcheerio said:
Of course it will still get HSPA+:42
The reason your speeds are getting slower has to do with network congestion and 1900mhz should allow for a greater transmission
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Sorry to bring old post back up but this isn't correct. It will not be 1700mhz HSPA+ and 1900mhz HSPA+. It will be 1700 LTE, 1900 HSPA+. Currently HSPA+ is on 1700mhz. So it might be worse for the Nexus 4.

Maybe you can then enable the hidden LTE?
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Verizon xt1060 4.4.4 update works with T-Mobile SIM

I updated my Verizon XT1060 4.4.2 to the 4.4.4 with the posted method in the other thread. [FXZ] Moto X 4.4.4 212.55.26 (XT1060)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
Now it works flawlessly with my T-Mobile sim using the unlocked GSM function.
Previously with 4.4.2 it would say "unknown sim", have LTE, MMS, SMS and voice call switching issues. Even forcing HSPA was inconsistant. Now all's well with my experience.

good to know, just picked up a tmo sim yesterday, but have it in my att note 2 right now
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I'll have to try it with my T-Mobile SIM later

After further testing, I had to change preferred network type to LTE, GSM, UMTS. default settings were flaky after driving around town.
Rebooted a few times and airplane mode a few times. Still good for now. Settings stick unlike 4.4.2
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I'll test it the next time I'm in an LTE area. The nearest one is 35 miles away. I could do everything on HSPA, but I had issues in LTE areas on 4.4.2.

I wonder if that means the Maxx will work perfect on T-Mobile when it gets triple 4

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I wonder if that means the Maxx will work perfect on T-Mobile when it gets triple 4
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The maxx already has 4.4.4, had it before the X. According to several posts over there, LTE is still broken

The default APN on the XT1060 with 4.4.4 is now fast.t-mobile.com, so a manual entry is no longer needed. I still put one in though because I like to customize the APN type settings.
It now correctly falls to HSPA/GSM from LTE when calling out too, instead of locking you to CDMA voice. So, you can use the phone as a phone now, even when connected to LTE.
I'd consider this fixed now.

Did your set preferred network type to global or LTE,GSM,UMTS?
I originally had it at Global, but it started acting like 4.4.2 (problems switching between phone and data) after I started moving around town.
LTE, GSM, UMTS works good but takes a long time to find a signal if I come out of a no signal zone
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HJC73734 said:
Did your set preferred network type to global or LTE,GSM,UMTS?
I originally had it at Global, but it started acting like 4.4.2 (problems switching between phone and data) after I started moving around town.
LTE, GSM, UMTS works good but takes a long time to find a signal if I come out of a no signal zone
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I did set it to LTE/GSM/UMTS, and I added my own APN even though the default (hidden) APN is correct.
Yeah, even on Verizon, the phone is slow to switch networks. If I get dropped from LTE, it'll stay on 3G or 1X even though LTE is available; sometimes I get no data on Verizon for a while. Seems the same with LTE and HSPA switching.
I should add that Global mode doesn't lock to EDGE now, but it is sketchy, as you say.

I've been having calling issues using 4.4.4 when connected to tmobile LTE on my xt1060 dev edition. If I force GPRS, calls work fine, if I switch to LTE/GSM/CDMA auto (prl) I connect to LTE, but then can't make or receive calls. I haven't been able to figure out how to force H+ which seems like it would fix the problem, any ideas?
Also OP mentioned a "unlocked GSM" function, could you elaborate? I search these forums all the time but have never posted anything until now.

might work on AT & T? It may be possible?
Enviado desde mi XT1058 mediante Tapatalk

Think it should work as it is supposed to be a GSM unlocked world phone.
For me 4.4.4 fixed some of the phone/data switching problems and issues with the gsm settings resetting after reboots.
Sent from my XT1060 using XDA Free mobile app

Well Verizon is currently doing testing because I made a complaint against them with the FCC.
I told the Verizon guy that I can connect to T-Mobile LTE on 4.4.4 (though I had issues with 4.4.2), but that I didn't test voice capability very thoroughly while connected to LTE (fallback to GSM may still be sketchy). So, he said he'd get back to me after they've done some testing on this particular issue. I did say that 4.4.4 fixed a lot of the issues I was having though, mainly getting connected to LTE, and having overall GSM/HSPA network issues when the phone was trying to connect to LTE.

Looks like my issue is that I'm not in the so called "refarmed" spectrum area for HSPA+, so I can either get LTE, or EDGE, nothing in between. I've tinkered with the build.prop to no avail. Guess I'll keep tinkering.

RAZRBL8DE said:
Looks like my issue is that I'm not in the so called "refarmed" spectrum area for HSPA+, so I can either get LTE, or EDGE, nothing in between. I've tinkered with the build.prop to no avail. Guess I'll keep tinkering.
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That's interesting considering the same amplifier for band 4 AWS LTE is the one used for HSPA. Band 4 AWS LTE operates on 1700/2100 MHz, the same frequency as the non-refarmed T-Mobile areas.
I think I'm also in a non-refarmed area, but I do have access to HSPA. The download speeds are just highly limited (0.05Mbps), so there's likely some baseband setting preventing full speeds. The last time I had reliable HSPA+ in my area was on 4.2.2 where I could pull just over 1Mbps down. In better areas, I get 5-15Mbps on HSPA+. These are certainly 1900/2100MHz areas.

Jason.DROID said:
That's interesting considering the same amplifier for band 4 AWS LTE is the one used for HSPA. Band 4 AWS LTE operates on 1700/2100 MHz, the same frequency as the non-refarmed T-Mobile areas.
I think I'm also in a non-refarmed area, but I do have access to HSPA. The download speeds are just highly limited (0.05Mbps), so there's likely some baseband setting preventing full speeds. The last time I had reliable HSPA+ in my area was on 4.2.2 where I could pull just over 1Mbps down. In better areas, I get 5-15Mbps on HSPA+. These are certainly 1900/2100MHz areas.
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I'm confused. Are you using a Verizon device? The XT1060?
While perhaps the same amplifier is being used (I have no info to either confirm or disprove this statement), the XT1060 (according to all relevant FCC data) lacks the actual physical radio hardware to support UMTS on 1700mhz. Additionally, 0.05Mbps sounds MUCH more like EDGE data than HSPA/HSPA+ data.
I'm very curious now. Would you mind trying out this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roaderster.mrf&hl=en
And seeing which UMTS (WCDMA) band/frequency it says you are using when your phone supposedly says you are using HSPA on 1700mhz?
We already know for a fact that the XT1060 does indeed support UMTS band 2 (1900mhz). I also *thought* we knew for a fact that the XT1060 does NOT support band 4 (1700mhz). LTE, yes, but UMTS, no.
I'm anxious to see what this app has to say...

samwathegreat said:
I'm confused. Are you using a Verizon device? The XT1060?
While perhaps the same amplifier is being used (I have no info to either confirm or disprove this statement), the XT1060 (according to all relevant FCC data) lacks the actual physical radio hardware to support UMTS on 1700mhz. Additionally, 0.05Mbps sounds MUCH more like EDGE data than HSPA/HSPA+ data.
I'm very curious now. Would you mind trying out this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roaderster.mrf&hl=en
And seeing which UMTS (WCDMA) band/frequency it says you are using when your phone supposedly says you are using HSPA on 1700mhz?
We already know for a fact that the XT1060 does indeed support UMTS band 2 (1900mhz). I also *thought* we knew for a fact that the XT1060 does NOT support band 4 (1700mhz). LTE, yes, but UMTS, no.
I'm anxious to see what this app has to say...
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The Skyworks 77619-12 is a penta-band amplifier that provides bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8 support for HSPA/LTE and is used in the XT1053 and XT1060, among others. See here: http://www.skyworksinc.com/Product.aspx?ProductID=1024
I don't have root, so I used an older LTE phone without band 4 support, and put in a T-Mobile SIM. There was no signal at all, and T-Mobile says this will be so if a phone doesn't support 1700MHz even if it supports 2100MHz. So, I only deduced from that that I'm in a 1700/2100MHz area rather than a more typical 1900/2100MHz area. The limited down speeds are on HSPA+, but upload speeds are around 1Mbps.

Jason.DROID said:
The Skyworks 77619-12 is a penta-band amplifier that provides bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8 support for HSPA/LTE and is used in the XT1053 and XT1060, among others. See here: http://www.skyworksinc.com/Product.aspx?ProductID=1024
I don't have root, so I used an older LTE phone without band 4 support, and put in a T-Mobile SIM. There was no signal at all, and T-Mobile says this will be so if a phone doesn't support 1700MHz even if it supports 2100MHz.
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Thanks for the link. As you already know (no doubt), an amplifier can do nothing if the underlying radio doesn't support the band/mode (UMTS on band 4, in this case). Likely, they use that same amp in all the Moto X variants (except, of course the Sprint variant, which uses band 25 on TDD-LTE).
The fact that the phone won't work unless both 1700 and 2100 are supported by the radio itself makes perfect sense since they are using FDD-LTE (Frequency division - requires 2 seperate bands - one for uplink and downlink).
Did you try the app I suggested? The description doesn't say it requires root...
And finally - you never confirmed: are you using the XT1060, or the XT1053?

samwathegreat said:
Thanks for the link. As you already know (no doubt), an amplifier can do nothing if the underlying radio doesn't support the band/mode (UMTS on band 4, in this case). Likely, they use that same amp in all the Moto X variants.
The fact that the phone won't work unless both 1700 and 2100 are supported by the radio itself makes perfect sense since they are using FDD-LTE (Frequency division - requires 2 seperate bands - one for uplink and downlink).
Did you try the app I suggested? The description doesn't say it requires root...
And finally - you never confirmed: are you using the XT1060, or the XT1053?
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The app only lists possible bands and converts them to frequencies. It won't tell you what bands the phone is using.
On 4.2.2, my XT1060 reported using bands 1 and 4 for HSPA, which is 1700/2100MHz. I figured it was misreporting.