Allegations of Kanging.
Since it appears that I am not going to receive a message from the XDA staff or the member who has made the complaint [which is a requirement of the rules I was supposed to have broken - see below], here is my response:
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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1. Thread clearly states that I am using the EB/TW base.
2. Using Eugenes kernel - There are several publicly available posts from Eugene stating that he does not care:
Eugene_373 Eugene373 / BH_MAN
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[email protected] i see mine all the time! With my notes removed in scripts. No biggy though!
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3. Personal message from Sombionix saying to feel free to use what I need from TW releases, in response to notifying him that I had run a diff on a TW file to find the location of a text color:
sombionix said:
jellette said:
Hey, even though no one would ever know, I'll post credit to you in my next update.
It was driving me nuts that I couldn't set the secondary menu text to white - remove "inverse"... - so I ended up doing a diff on one of the TW frameworks to find it.
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No worries, feel free to use it or anything else you need.
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4. SD mounting in settings.apk fix by EDT member Whitehawkx and posted in original 4g thread - also given to Krylon360:
Whitehawkx said:
@Krylon360
@Eugene373
I have modded the Settings.apk to show both the internal and external storage. It works and does show both, but it displays the internal memory on both fields. Using the stock kernel provided with the rom I have not been able to access my external memory card (haven't cared either b/c I never use it). I'm assuming this is why it is displaying the same on both.
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5. Wifi fix by myself of EDT and posted in original 4g thread:
Finally happy that the Einherjar Dev Team makes a contribution or two to this project!
Along with the AOSP lockscreens.
Wifi fix
1.32MB
Flash in recovery - not tested without Eugenes replacement build.prop
If you flash without the new build.prop and it works, let us know.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ndp9tv4gg99f23f
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6. Theme is a mix of Flagship, CM7, MIUI, Gingerbread and Honeycomb.
7. AOSP lockscreen by EDT member Whitehawkx and posted in original 4g thread:
Whitehawkx said:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16614486/android.policy.jar
Aosp lockscreen. Not flashable. Push to /system/framework.
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Whitehawkx said:
AOSP lockscreen. Flash through clockwork.
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I see no grounds for a continuation and thread should be re-opened.
Upon re-reading rule 12, it appears that both the member who made the complaint and the Mod who closed the thread will need to review rule 12 as the protocols that it sets forth were not followed.
Let me also note here that Sombionix and myself have a great working relationship and that I do not expect this to change that.
Let me start with this, I think it sucks that this is going on with you guys.
I contacted @Krylon360 last night and told him that wasn't a good thing.
I hate how someone can kang someone and NOTHING happens but when someone else kangs someone everything happens.
When I talked to him I told him what he did wasn't good & he just said well they put a lot of work into it.
Let me tell you, my secgps script is in bionix, opened a case, nothing happened. I sent stock, mine, and his, and they told me nothing could be done because of the '#Generated by' at the top even though I sent stock aslo (Which is way different)
I spent a while to get that to work for some of the people having gps problems, and to my suprise krylon knew what GPS script I was talking last night (I also have screenies, but not trying to start anything) He said "Yeah, Frost isn't using the one that is in bionix"
If they wanted the dev wars to stop, why did they start this again?
//Just mad, not trying to start flame wars here
Okay, let me start this over again (EDIT By the way..)
I just guess I don't see how a team can kang people & nothing be done but another team 'kang' someone and the thread gets closed.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is, if you didn't give credit, that would be one thing.. But hell, they don't even give credit..
//Once again, sorry, just mad
This kanging subject has really gotten out of hand. Maybe i am wrong since i am not a dev but tell me this ain't most of the codes,scripts,kernel,and such written by google or the phones manufacturer and the devs just change a few lines of code and such to basically say that it his or hers. If thats the case android wouldnt be open source in which its suppose to be. everyone steals from everybody thats the way the world world works get used to it. I'm sorry but team whiskey should be called called team drunk with power or team anal retentive. If they are so worried about everyone kanging their brilliant ideas I'm suprised that they don't stop the themers from themeing their roms since you know how anal they can be. Which in point somehow i feel they really cant say anything cause if it wasn't for supercurio and his voodoo injected kernels then where would their rom's be thank goodness he says that he doesnt care who uses his work too bad everyone can not think and be like he is. unless you can truly prove that you built your kernel, rom, etc from the ground up with no source or anything then you probably are in the same boat as the one's you are accusing of stealing your work.
Bad moderating on XDA... SHOCKER.
Hate that happened, hope it doesnt discourage you at all. EDT has made some huge ground and I appreciate ALL of our wonderful developers/themers... ALL of them.
How long have you been working on this project?
Now that you got it 100% they want to take your work away....it couldn't be done ...you proved them wrong...that's what they are pissed about...lol
All I want to say is I appreciate each and every DEV and every TEAM on here at XDA. But really, who cares, who does what and who did what first. We (consumer) appreciate it all and I feel you all get donated to equally. With that said....
TEAM EDT - Do your thing! Love your work and will continue to support you guys fully! Master you as well!
Everything I've seen from EDT, they always give credit and offer info to anyone about where they get anything they use. You guys seem very honest, and I don't know why anyone would freak out about you using anything from them.
I hope you guys get this figured out so you can keep churning out great roms!
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
UGH, It seems as though all devs play nice with each other for a couple weeks and then something like this pops up seemingly out of nowhere.
It's like the menstrual cycle of XDA developers. lol.
I am not partial to any certain DEV. I've first used TW roms then made the move to Trigger. Both great teams who put out great stuff.
Hopefully this gets worked out. I mean come on guys. It seems at least to me all devs try to give credit where it's due. Can't we all just get along?
PEACE BE WITH YOU!
WHats funny, is I have seen in TW threads, EDT members giving them certain help and vice versa. Just in the one krylon is working on I see JF giving help with certain scripts and krylon using them to adjust things to get them working. So why in the world would he be upset.
I usually supports TW and their roms but in this case I would have to go with EDT.
It just seems a little extreme to immediately report a thread and not be able to talk privately before public actions were taken.
In addition, obviously at one point TW posted the source, or at one point given it to EDT. Now, EDT used it in a rom and has given credit to TW/EB in their opening post, I failed to understand how this is constituted as Kanging.
irockstar661 said:
WHats funny, is I have seen in TW threads, EDT members giving them certain help and vice versa. Just in the one krylon is working on I see JF giving help with certain scripts and krylon using them to adjust things to get them working. So why in the world would he be upset.
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@the person who got the thread locked don't be a
Hypocrite!
THERE!
I SAID IT AGAIN!
now let's not start another flame-fest.
Let's undo the wrongs and move forward.
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
scrizz said:
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
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Exactly...there is so much potential that goes unrealized when these things happen.
scrizz said:
@the person who got the thread locked don't be a
Hypocrite!
THERE!
I SAID IT AGAIN!
now let's not start another flame-fest.
Let's undo the wrongs and move forward.
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
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Its the truth....
I've seen Master help both TW/EDT, Ive seen the xboarder help with MUIU, I've seen EDT help TW, and TW help EDT. It's been great here recently, why ruin it now krylon? I followed you and your work closely and this will not effect that, but this was way out of line bro!
In fact. most of you KANG sammy! hahaha
i don't think any dev here will probably say i did all the work by myself i dont need help doing anything from anyone i built the kernel,rom,themed,etc... by myself. i even manufactured the phone and distributed it out of the trunk of my car this is totally mine.
Removed. Posted out of anger towards a certain dev.
Correct me if im wrong, but wasn't EDT a collaborator in the original build of the 2.2.1 kernel base that both TW and EDT are using? I don't see an issue here as they have just as much right to use the 2.2.1 kernel as any one else does.
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Ban me if you want, but Krylon, that was a punk ***** move..
I've never used anything of jellettes till rc3 of last night, I've only used team whiskey ****. Anyways, I don't think OP did anything wrong. I am ashamed to have anything krylon on my phone..
Op I support you 100%. Win this battle.... krylon you should be ashamed of yourself...
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That's the kind of fanboyism that we want to avoid in a thread like this one. Otherwise, this thread will just get closed like the 2.2.1 EDT thread (not because of fanboy issues).
PaiPiePia said:
That's the kind of fanboyism that we want to avoid in a thread like this one. Otherwise, this thread will just get closed like the 2.2.1 EDT thread (not because of fanboy issues).
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Apparently you didn't read my post.. It says ban me if you want. Meaning what was coming next is probably out of line. Didn't take a genius to figure that out lol...
P.s. Look up fan boy.lol I use krylon all the time, not jillette, but I'm sticking up for jillette... Lol @ fanboy.
Seriously people.... can we all just.... get along????
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
smashpunks said:
Apparently you didn't read my post.. It says ban me if you want. Meaning what was coming next is probably out of line. Didn't take a genius to figure that out lol...
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No one care about you getting banned, I am more worried about the thread getting closed because of people like you.
Related
This should work on ANY rom
This remaps a longpress on the search softkey to the camera. aka....a long press on the search softkey will pull up the camera.
flash from recovery.
THIS WASNT STOLEN, I JUST HAPPENED TO RUN ACROSS IT MYSELF LAST NIGHT.
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED ON THE HERO FORUMS. HERE IS A FULL GUIDE ON CHANGING IT TO WHATEVER YOU WANT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695936
I can confirm 100% this works on Ivans ROM
anonomouse said:
This should work on ANY rom
This remaps a longpress on the search softkey to the camera. aka....a long press on the search softkey will pull up the camera.
flash from recovery.
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Hey andrizoid, why are you stealing work yet again? This was done over the Hero forum long long ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695936
Reporting your new nick and that you are stealing yet again.
droidkevlar said:
Hey andrizoid, why are you stealing work yet again? This was done over the Hero forum long long ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695936
Reporting your new nick and that you are stealing yet again.
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hey other guy OPEN SOURCE!!!
THIS COMMUNITY THRIVES ON STOLEN/BORROWED CODE, LEAKS, DREAMS, AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO HACK/MOD THE ABOVE.
Sjflowerhorn said:
hey other guy OPEN SOURCE!!!
THIS COMMUNITY THRIVES ON STOLEN/BORROWED CODE, LEAKS, DREAMS, AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO HACK/MOD THE ABOVE.
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And people like you are reasons why other devs dont like to help us out. Give credit, and most of the time, they allow. I used 5 diff devs stuff in my release. Got permission from all of them. They said, thanks for asking. Thats all it takes. Its called respect. And working together.
EDIT: XDA must have thought he was bad since they banned him, but he is now back again.
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And people like you are reasons why other devs dont like to help us out. Give credit, and most of the time, they allow. I used 5 diff devs stuff in my release. Got permission from all of them. They said, thanks for asking. Thats all it takes. Its called respect. And working together.
EDIT: XDA must have thought he was bad since they banned him, but he is now back again.
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alright look, im not fighting for him only stating that this is a forum dedicated to doing things your told you can't, correct? i don't agree with the fact that hes not giving credit to other devs or posting links back to original files. trust me i understand how having things stolen feels. but in his defense mabey speaking with him instead of accusing might be a good idea. Apple is suing GOOGLE for stealing ideas. honestly our phones seem to have been built around stolen ideas,
mabey im just playing devils advocate here but, you really have to ask yourself do you want to feel like steve jobs today?
but now thinking about it after xda as a wholes better judgement said to get rid of him . . . (head down) mabey there right
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alright look, im not fighting for him only stating that this is a forum dedicated to doing things your told you can't, correct? i don't agree with the fact that hes not giving credit to other devs or posting links back to original files. trust me i understand how having things stolen feels. but in his defense mabey speaking with him instead of accusing might be a good idea. Apple is suing GOOGLE for stealing ideas. honestly our phones seem to have been built around stolen ideas,
mabey im just playing devils advocate here but, you really have to ask yourself do you want to feel like steve jobs today?
but now thinking about it after xda as a wholes better judgement said to get rid of him . . . (head down) mabey there right
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You are literally ranting about nothing.
Did I just get called Steve Jobs?
Anyway, thanks for posting the link, give credit next time.
Awesome, I never use that search key anyways.
This is actually pretty cool, shoutout to whoever created this!
Guys, there's a reason I posted a guide..
It's so that anyone can adapt it however they want. I could even care less about credit, since that's the OP's choice.
And being that it's such a low level hack, all it takes is a little bit of tinkering to figure everything out.
No need to grill him.
nothings stolen. i found that myself when i was looking for some files myself.
it may have been posted already but i didnt know about it.
@ decadeance.
just checked your post. my bad. i honestly didnt know you already had this posted. i came across it myself last night. ill update the OP to include your link though. thats for not going ape **** on me
misunderstandings happen.
anonomouse said:
nothings stolen. i found that myself when i was looking for some files myself.
it may have been posted already but i didnt know about it.
@ decadeance.
just checked your post. my bad. i honestly didnt know you already had this posted. i came across it myself last night. ill update the OP to include your link though. thats for not going ape **** on me
misunderstandings happen.
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Thanks for giving credit to decadeance. Just FYI for anyone else that might be wondering, using the work of others without giving due credit IS against the rules of XDA-Developers.
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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Since this was resolved in a matter of which did not require a moderators attention then no warnings will be issued since it seems to have been an honest mistake. It is true that this is OPEN SOURCE however that does not mean that you can claim rights to another developers work. We are striving to aid others in achieving more with the community but a house divided against itself cannot stand. Work together, treat each other with respect, resolve issues/problems/differences via private messages whenever possible to keep the forum from getting out of hand and always remember to follow the rules.
Thanks for your time.
Decad3nce said:
Guys, there's a reason I posted a guide..
It's so that anyone can adapt it however they want. I could even care less about credit, since that's the OP's choice.
And being that it's such a low level hack, all it takes is a little bit of tinkering to figure everything out.
No need to grill him.
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+10,000,000 to decadance
-1,000,000,000 to the Steve B-Jobs taddle tale
EDIT: I BELIEVE IN A FAIR TRIAL, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
Sjflowerhorn said:
+10,000,000 to decadance
-1,000,000,000 to the Steve B-Jobs taddle tale
EDIT: I BELIEVE IN A FAIR TRIAL, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
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Actually... the OP's account was disabled until further notice because enough compelling evidence was recently discovered to prove that he was "guilty" and because the fact that he is a repeat offender we had no choice but to take the necessary actions.
kings 1.4 is out at kingxklick.com if anyones interested
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10 char
smjfosho said:
Mods close this
He was banned, don't post things about him
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its perfectly fine to post this...
its not like klick is posting it. There are many threads on xda of Devs who have been banned/left xda (and they are some of the best roms)
why was he banned?
Wow
People get all crazy. He's a dev and just because you don't like him doesn't mean you have to go out like some psycho and call a dev to close a thread about him. If you don't like him, then avoid threads with his name in it! However, I love his roms and continue to use them.
Wanna pm me the link?
nvm got it. If only there was a changelog :\
smjfosho said:
Mods close this
He was banned, don't post things about him
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WOW!!! That is a bit of a childish comment!! Sorry not trying to flame but hell
protomanez said:
Wanna pm me the link?
nvm got it. If only there was a changelog :\
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Version 1.4
- New base full wipe update
- Fasted release yet – I AM SERIOUS (getting towards the end of development until A newer leak I am afraid)
- Rougly 75% optimized
- Fixed some syntax errors in vital scripts
- Cleaned up each boot
- Fixed Permissions issues
- Cleaned up build
its on the main page . GUYS PLEASE USE THE TORRENT DOWNLOAD FOR THIS. My webserver is upset!
wow
some people really hate king which is really funny cause i remember when he would put out some of the best hero roms out there (still does) and people were on his d*&% and now he gets accused of stealing work haha and gets banned hahahahah who cares everyone copies other devs work.
P.S.
his rom is on his forum http://kingxklick.com/?p=21
nice to see someone is still working on a sense rom too bad for whoever was working on the aria rom that was never released... got my hopes up for nothing and legend was even greater disappointment... legend could have been great but now its a legend of the past...
God this rom...is fricking beautiful... *cries*
xftox said:
everyone copies other devs work.
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Isn't that the point of "OPEN SOURCE" I mean lets be honest here. No dev and I mean NO as in NONE OF THEM build an android Rom from scratch. They take from the release and build it to what they want right?? So.... what did King really do? He didn't give credit?? Funny I look through these thread and no one gives credit to Android or HTC or anyone like that. Ban them all I guess!!
Just a noobs opinion!!
Thanks for the link, I'll install tomorrow!
skater4690 said:
nice to see someone is still working on a sense rom too bad for whoever was working on the aria rom that was never released... got my hopes up for nothing and legend was even greater disappointment... legend could have been great but now its a legend of the past...
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Aria has been more difficult than originally thought but i sure someone will have one out soon dont give up hope
He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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You mean like Defcons CM6 Test builds? I'm pretty sure he didnt even change anything just a straight rip from cyans github and nobody got on his ass about it. Cyanogen even helped him out a little stop hating on King just cuz it was the thing to do like 2 weeks ago every dev is using the work of others and calling it their own with a few little changes else every Rom should have the words HTC or Google in the title. Cyan changes quite a bit but in reality its just a drop in the bucket compared to the original work put into the source we're all handed and encouraged to freely modify and distribute any way we desire with or without credit given
Huh?
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He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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Then why don't you get everyones work and make a rom out of it? I honestly don't think that it's easy to dev, spending hours on tedious work. He still put it together and got it running which is more than I can do alone. Is a giant Android Jesus going to come down and smite him of his deving powers? No. He puts time into it, that's all I need to know. I see roms like someone mentioned before of roms from Cyo's github and his other mods. People got crazy a while back when someone made a rom from Cyo's github for a rom that Cyo hadn't even released and he had to lock the thread...why? Because people get butthurt and think that it's "stealing" or whatever they want to call it. Every dev is different, they have their own preferences and all have different setups. Some create things for other developers to use. >:O
So sad KingKlik got banned...But Credit giving has been a big issue..
Do u guys remember the early day the 1.1 days..And the ROm theme Skins..
Some guy Tootall4la?? And His Frankenstein Theme??
He Made a theme and every once in awhile would change up his theme..i think he copy and pasted 2 or 3 things on to his theme from another theme..he thought it would be a good addition to his theme..and BAM!! he got banned?? he didnt source the things he got but cmon--Thats were the Frankenstein name came in..its made up of different parts..
Everytime there will be a different guinea pig to attack
I thought it was Open Sourced Project..
but any ways KingKliK I Fully Support Your ROMS!!!
Outstanding WORK!!!!!
Fact.
You guys are thinking way too hard.. open source means... Like a definition?
http://tinyurl.com/33acugo
Also, it is not about giving credit to HTC and Google, they know we are here and this community has permision to do modding and rebuilds of the source...
As I was saying king was using other people's work then, would call it his own, and he never gave credit to the work and mods done by others, had he done that he would still be here and maybe wold have finished a rom (completely).
People please stop saying we should just forget the meaning of open source... open source does not mean and is not an excuse for copying others work. Also if your defending him.. put some thought into it.
infinitybiff said:
Version 1.4
- New base full wipe update
- Fasted release yet – I AM SERIOUS (getting towards the end of development until A newer leak I am afraid)
- Rougly 75% optimized
- Fixed some syntax errors in vital scripts
- Cleaned up each boot
- Fixed Permissions issues
- Cleaned up build
its on the main page . GUYS PLEASE USE THE TORRENT DOWNLOAD FOR THIS. My webserver is upset!
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So he has fixed nothing as normal but it gos like a bat out of hell.
In other words he is using a new version on winzip
And you forgot to add the credits to the people that did the DEV work in your post!
This is not intended to be mean personally, but this confusion needs to be sorted out.
1. there is a reason why mimocan's lagfix is the only fix stickied.
2. there is a reason why cyanogen has chosen supercurio's voodoo fix to be implemented with Cyanogen *A hugely famous ROM*
I think this speaks for itself. I urge people to consider the fact why are Cyanogen choosing the voodoo method to implement as their lagfix and not the one click fix.
I know not much on this technical details of all this. But logic tells me that if Cyanogen is behind supercurio then that is all that needs to be said. beta2 will be out within days, as for a public release hold tight.
Just wait and see, and donate some money for the hard work I know curio has put in.
Ryan I welcome a rebuttal on this, but you can't really argue that the team at cyanogen are incorrect in supporting the 'wrong lag fix concept'..
This just in:
Lag Fix - There are different ways of doing it.
Well I don't think Cyanogen would have flipped a coin to decide whichfix they will use..
Give cyanogen team some credit please..
Give RyanZA some credit. He's never claimed that his solution is the only solution, or that it's the best one. It is a solution.
As for Mimocan's, I'm guessing it's stickied because he was the first person to come up with a solution.
RyanZA's fix has gained popularity IMHO because it's easy to apply.
You are missing the point of the thread then.
It is confusing for users with the fixes available. The better/safest one needs to be pointed out.
Ryan has done a great job and I praise his work and intentions.
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Just wait and see, and donate some money for the hard work I know curio has put in.
Ryan I welcome a rebuttal on this, but you can't really argue that the team at cyanogen are incorrect in supporting the 'wrong lag fix concept'..
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Wrong? What is wrong? There is no right or wrong, please get that straight.
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Wrong? What is wrong? There is no right or wrong, please get that straight.
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it was in inverted comma's for a reason..
make love not war. C'mon lads
Please be open and kind about this discussion, I apologise if the tone was set in a negative way.
The aim is just to inform the newer users that the preferenced fix is endorsed by a hugely respected dev team at cyanogen.
This forum may have alliances towards the wrong advice.
I am simply putting it out there as an external view point on this, it is important to note that for cyanogen to back the voodoo fix, this itself holds great merit in this debate. as apposed to the in fighting/tension that has been in this forum.
I do not apologise for pointing out the elephant in the room though.
Is cyanogen bringing out a galaxy s rom?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
lokhor said:
Is cyanogen bringing out a galaxy s rom?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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yes here is the update
http://bit.ly/cmprogress
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4527-running-update-thread-on-sgs-progress/
cmon, the tone of your post is already a huge disrespect to RyanZa. I've been using lagfixes since Modaco Paul's nand-fix, then Mimocan, then RyanZa and now Supercurio's voodoo fix.
I have huge respect to all of them for the work and dedication they do which makes our life a little better. I'd just like to offer an observation, when RyanZa's one-click fix came out, he was being cheered and praised like a popstar. Then later when Supercurio's voodoo fix came out, some of those who cheered ryan previously quickly turn to disparaging him. What hypocrites...
I am not here to argue about the merits and demerits of each lagfix. I am not nearly knowlegable enough. But what is the "BEST" method?? there are people who are still happily using Modaco paul's nand-fix and lately there are some who has stopped using lagfixes altogether because they felt samsung's latest firmwares improved the situation for them. Should we then try to "convert" everyone to use supercurio voodoo fix just becoz some ppl feel it's the best and cyanogen team has chosen it? Cyanogen team has also chosen to use ADW launcher only. Should everyone else stop using Launcher Pro?
The point abt android systems is CHOICE. this is why i use android phone instead of Steve Job's "we know what's best for you" iphone.
I'm cool.
Just a recap,
First there was this modaco fix by Paul, moving apps into dbdata, even zenkinz do it in another way, which is to shift all the system data into the dbdata.
Then came mimocan's fix (believe there was 2 versions: ext3 and ext4)
Next came ykk_five idea, which RyanZA had followed on, in fact there were 3 versions. version 1, version 2 and the apk. Tayutama's uses script to install the lag fixes, and Chainsfire lagfix where there is a better UI. All these are variants.
All these fixes were applied by the various people, at different times, and most, if not all gained from these fixes, be it temporary or permanent.
As the product evolve, so does the lagfixes. The beginning was using adb commands, and later evolve into one app which can be downloaded. That's how we progresses.
And at this point of time, sc's fix is an excellent way of eliminating lag, but I definitely don't believe that it is going to be the last.
Of course, YMMV.
Please start saying what you mean or don't say anything.
You talk in vague term, repeating "there's a reason why..." without naming the reason you mean. You say "I think this speaks for itself". What speaks for itself? And what does it say? You haven't told us.
You're showing that you have a strong opinion for or against certain devs or solutions. You did not make this topic because you are actually asking for people to tell you which lagfix you should use. You made it because you want people to change to your point of view, or discredit you disagree with. And you do it by talking vaguely, without any relevant arguments. The only type of argument I could find was "Well, I think A is cool, and A is saying B is cool, so that must mean B is pretty cool! Guys, go for B, it's the only true path!"
Right now you sound to me like someone who wants to whine or *****, but knows he shouldn't, or who is too afraid to. I find that quite incorrect and annoying.
Please behave. Please let people make their own choices about this stuff by reading whatever they are interested in, without this weird type of drama-starting behavior.
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Wise man once said "Whether it's black cat or white cat. So long as it can catch a mouse, it's a good cat."
On that note can we delete this thread?
If everyone has full faith that any and all fixes are 100% safe then so be it.
'I'm just a boy who's intentions are good, oh lord please don't let me be misundertood'
You know what they say about the road to hell...
Lol yeah... I know , im just concerned one of the cats may have a terminal illness I guess
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dan 6a said:
Lol yeah... I know , im just concerned one of the cats may have a terminal illness I guess
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Lol exactly what I opened this thread for, although nobody has addressed this yet....
What are the rules about posting other peoples work, i.e. ROMS and themes? Im not sure but I see over in other forums, like the EVO for example where 5 people are making ROMS using a base that they give credit to one guy for. I only ask this because over here in the D2 section, there is only 3-4 different groups working on stuff, everyone is tight lipped and not willing to let anyone in on the "secret". I see random posts where it says that the source for the base of ALL these ROMS is open, meaning ANYONE should have access, and ANYONE should be able to do as they please with them. I know that is not the case and it comes down to who you know, just like anywhere else in life, but I think the community is only being held back because we only have those select few working on new stuff....DONT get me wrong, all the devs. are doing amazing work for us D2 users, I just think we are being limited alot. I sent a pm to one dev in particular asking him to release a variant of his themes with the ApeX flip and fly out transition animations added. They are really cool and they compliment his ROMS well. I even got permission from some others to use those. I not only didnt get a response, but when I pm'd him askin why he hadnt responded, he said he never got it, (I still have it in my outbox). I just think it would be cool to have, say, a Fission Blackout ROM with the blackout Swype and android keyboard, and the cool transitions from ApeX, and only have to flash one zip in recovery. Im just sayin. Im not being ungrateful so please dont tear me apart, just puttin it out there
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What are the rules about posting other peoples work, i.e. ROMS and themes? Im not sure but I see over in other forums, like the EVO for example where 5 people are making ROMS using a base that they give credit to one guy for. I only ask this because over here in the D2 section, there is only 3-4 different groups working on stuff, everyone is tight lipped and not willing to let anyone in on the "secret". I see random posts where it says that the source for the base of ALL these ROMS is open, meaning ANYONE should have access, and ANYONE should be able to do as they please with them. I know that is not the case and it comes down to who you know, just like anywhere else in life, but I think the community is only being held back because we only have those select few working on new stuff....DONT get me wrong, all the devs. are doing amazing work for us D2 users, I just think we are being limited alot. I sent a pm to one dev in particular asking him to release a variant of his themes with the ApeX flip and fly out transition animations added. They are really cool and they compliment his ROMS well. I even got permission from some others to use those. I not only didnt get a response, but when I pm'd him askin why he hadnt responded, he said he never got it, (I still have it in my oubox). I just think it would be cool to have, say, a Fission Blackout ROM with the blackout Swype and android keyboard, and the cool transitions from ApeX, and only have to flash one zip in recovery. Im just sayin. Im not being ungrateful so please dont tear me apart, just puttin it out there
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Straight from XDA rules
Forum Rules said:
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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And that is reasonable. Thanks
mikeyinid said:
And that is reasonable. Thanks
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No problem.... mind if I close this?
theimpaler747 said:
No problem.... mind if I close this?
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nope. go ahead.
Due to question being answered and consent of the OP, thread closed
Hello Guys,
I'm pretty sure you are aware of the controversy between me, DesignGears& Pulser lately with my ROM (Infusion) and below is the whole truth, I'm not hiding anything anymore as you deserve the truth.
Just going to cut straight to the point.
Yes, I stole Cognition 1.13 and applied my own theme and claimed it as my own, I also stole Villain ROM 2.0 & also claimed that as my own, the situation got WAY out of hand and I have personally apologised for Pulser & DesignGears for his.
Me & Pulser are in talks to resolve the issue with my ROM & most likely it will eventually get deleted, as, honestly, I am not a ROM cooker, I'm a theme creator & wanted to show my themes potential in a ROM.
I will continue posting my themes on XDA, I just hope everybody can forgive me for what I've done, I have refunded all donations received as I do not deserve them, you should be donating to Pulser & DesignGears, I did nothing.
I have a new theme coming up with permission for use from BoyRacer and we're working on something great.
Take it easy & I'm sorry.
NitrozK
Flame at your peril... While some people are understandable pissed off at what happened, please keep this civil.
nitrozk said:
Hello Guys,
I'm pretty sure you are aware of the controversy between me, DesignGears& Pulser lately with my ROM (Infusion) and below is the whole truth, I'm not hiding anything anymore as you deserve the truth.
Just going to cut straight to the point.
Yes, I stole Cognition 1.13 and applied my own theme and claimed it as my own, I also stole Villain ROM 2.0 & also claimed that as my own, the situation got WAY out of hand and I have personally apologised for Pulser & DesignGears for his.
Me & Pulser are in talks to resolve the issue with my ROM & most likely it will eventually get deleted, as, honestly, I am not a ROM cooker, I'm a theme creator & wanted to show my themes potential in a ROM.
I will continue posting my themes on XDA, I just hope everybody can forgive me for what I've done, I have refunded all donations received as I do not deserve them, you should be donating to Pulser & DesignGears, I did nothing.
I have a new theme coming up with permission for use from BoyRacer and we're working on something great.
Take it easy & I'm sorry.
NitrozK
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so you are back on xda... what about the website?
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so you are back on xda... what about the website?
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I'm still using the website, thats for exclusive stuff
well at least you had the guts to tell us the truth have donated but wouldnt mind at all..
Fair play to Nitrozk, hope everyone agrees and they move on from this. The apology was comprehensive and named those whose work was used, which must have been quite hard to do.
moving ahead, what are your next plans? any new themes? and are you really working on bringing the stock lock screen without using widgetlocker?
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moving ahead, what are your next plans? any new themes? and are you really working on bringing the stock lock screen without using widgetlocker?
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I'm not even going to attempt to make a ROM to be honest, let's leave that to the professionals I do have a theme coming up which I'm creating now, do you remember the Spectrum theme from the SGS1? Well, it's like that, but better
What a hell! And you swore yor innocence on Google+ and twitter. Charming
And what the hell was it you wanted people to beta test? this builds were already tested. I can say your unfollowed and i well never go near anything your name is on again. And you say your a themer, you f*****g port other peoples work. Even if you had permission that doesnt make you a themer maybe a porter.
It takes a brave and humble man to apologise publicly. Props to you sir :]
What the hell man? I gave you the permission to use the theme for your rom but that was just a copied one? So you didn't do anything yourself and just put all the pieces together?
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What a hell! And you swore yor innocence on Google+ and twitter. Charming
And what the hell was it you wanted people to beta test? this builds were already tested. I can say your unfollowed and i well never go near anything your name is on again. And you say your a themer, you f*****g port other peoples work. Even if you had permission that doesnt make you a themer maybe a porter.
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I think you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. I AM using his theme as a basis of what my theme is going to be like, it's not going to be just copying and pasting and done, I asked for permission from the dev so I could use just a few images from his theme and he agreed and wished me luck, technically it is his theme I'm just adding to it to make it better for the SGS II. So, it's half porting, half adding to.
Good of you to man up, apologise and refund donations. Anything less would be unacceptable, as I'm sure you know...
You were in the wrong, you know it and you're doing as much as can be expected to make it right.
The many people here who will have lost any faith and trust in you is going to hurt, I reckon, but it's deserved.
Why not start again by updating the black theme that you had started on (with permission, for those who didn't know)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131746
Lots of potential there, some bugs need ironing out though. See that job through and get some credibility back!
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What the hell man? I gave you the permission to use the theme for your rom but that was just a copied one? So you didn't do anything yourself and just put all the pieces together?
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I actually used the theme I ported from the SGS version just added a CM7 battery to it. Should of told you.
Interesting,I realy liked that ROM,hmmm,thanks got,I've found a replacement ROM,which is rock stable.
Thanks for the apology a lesser man would have run off .
jje
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Even if you had permission that doesnt make you a themer maybe a porter.
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por·ter
[pawr-ter, pohr-] –noun
1.
a person hired to carry burdens or baggage, as at a railroad station or a hotel.
2.
a person who does cleaning and maintenance work in a building, factory, store, etc.
3.
an attendant in a railroad parlor car or sleeping car.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/porter
Regarding the thread. I'm all about sharing stuff and if someone can improve it in any way then great and I don't care for these arguments about who "burrowed" what from whom as long as the person's work is credited. In a way falsely taking credit for someone else's work is kind of a shady move but manning up and doing a full apology with disclosure of what you did kind of makes me like the OP a bit. I'm hoping it's lesson learnt and we can move on with the OP doing some great themes for the community.
Porter a drink of stout topped up with water beloved of Smithfield and Covent Garden market porters in the Victorian age .
Generically used across the water for a drop of the black stuff before it was pumped full of nitrogen and frozen .
jje
JJEgan said:
Porter a drink of stout topped up with water beloved of Smithfield and Covent Garden market porters in the Victorian age .
Generically used across the water for a drop of the black stuff before it was pumped full of nitrogen and frozen .
jje
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_%28beer%29
Well I think that despite what he has done he had the courage to come clean and did not run off.
Don't flame the guy and give him time to redeem himself
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