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What are the rules about posting other peoples work, i.e. ROMS and themes? Im not sure but I see over in other forums, like the EVO for example where 5 people are making ROMS using a base that they give credit to one guy for. I only ask this because over here in the D2 section, there is only 3-4 different groups working on stuff, everyone is tight lipped and not willing to let anyone in on the "secret". I see random posts where it says that the source for the base of ALL these ROMS is open, meaning ANYONE should have access, and ANYONE should be able to do as they please with them. I know that is not the case and it comes down to who you know, just like anywhere else in life, but I think the community is only being held back because we only have those select few working on new stuff....DONT get me wrong, all the devs. are doing amazing work for us D2 users, I just think we are being limited alot. I sent a pm to one dev in particular asking him to release a variant of his themes with the ApeX flip and fly out transition animations added. They are really cool and they compliment his ROMS well. I even got permission from some others to use those. I not only didnt get a response, but when I pm'd him askin why he hadnt responded, he said he never got it, (I still have it in my outbox). I just think it would be cool to have, say, a Fission Blackout ROM with the blackout Swype and android keyboard, and the cool transitions from ApeX, and only have to flash one zip in recovery. Im just sayin. Im not being ungrateful so please dont tear me apart, just puttin it out there

mikeyinid said:
What are the rules about posting other peoples work, i.e. ROMS and themes? Im not sure but I see over in other forums, like the EVO for example where 5 people are making ROMS using a base that they give credit to one guy for. I only ask this because over here in the D2 section, there is only 3-4 different groups working on stuff, everyone is tight lipped and not willing to let anyone in on the "secret". I see random posts where it says that the source for the base of ALL these ROMS is open, meaning ANYONE should have access, and ANYONE should be able to do as they please with them. I know that is not the case and it comes down to who you know, just like anywhere else in life, but I think the community is only being held back because we only have those select few working on new stuff....DONT get me wrong, all the devs. are doing amazing work for us D2 users, I just think we are being limited alot. I sent a pm to one dev in particular asking him to release a variant of his themes with the ApeX flip and fly out transition animations added. They are really cool and they compliment his ROMS well. I even got permission from some others to use those. I not only didnt get a response, but when I pm'd him askin why he hadnt responded, he said he never got it, (I still have it in my oubox). I just think it would be cool to have, say, a Fission Blackout ROM with the blackout Swype and android keyboard, and the cool transitions from ApeX, and only have to flash one zip in recovery. Im just sayin. Im not being ungrateful so please dont tear me apart, just puttin it out there
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Straight from XDA rules
Forum Rules said:
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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And that is reasonable. Thanks

mikeyinid said:
And that is reasonable. Thanks
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No problem.... mind if I close this?

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No problem.... mind if I close this?
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nope. go ahead.

Due to question being answered and consent of the OP, thread closed

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Hello Moderators,
People are posting their roms here which are not doing what they are supposed to do, but the page where one dodwnloads the roms remains the same without any update on what is working and what is not.Can anything be done about it?
lol maybe if they could tell what you were asking.
Edit: I get it.. Are you seriously *****ing bout devs who take there personal time to post ROMs but not always update their main page?
I think he is talking about the WIKI pages and if that is the case then to the OP you need to understand how this works
1. a dev posts a rom they cooked in a new thread
2. it is up to us as a community to update the WIKI not the moderators
if the rom is a popular one then it is going to stay at the top of the treads deal with it.
edit: nope you are right Tipharet I read it worng. rukshmani you need to deal with it and read the treads that these roms have before you flash them anyways becuase if you dont then you end up asking questions that have been asked 200 times before. please stop complaing about these great people taking time from their lives and families to make our experience better.
Well, just read through the posts and you will no what is working or not working. It really is as easy as that.
Updating the first post to a ROM release is the responsibility of the developer of that rom. Not the job of the moderators.
If you think a rom needs to have it's post updated, why don't you PM the developer yourself. If you were instead referring to the sticky-wiki for tracking roms, you aare as free to update/edit that as any one of us are.
Not, trying to sound rude, but it is difficult to understand what EXACTLY it is that you are asking for.
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Its okay if apps2sd and other stuff are not working. But update the first page, where people download. That page still says app2sd working.
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It's working on mine... I'm running V2. I can't remember what I had to do exactly to get it working though.
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Hello Moderators,
People are posting their roms here which are not doing what they are supposed to do, but the page where one dodwnloads the roms remains the same without any update on what is working and what is not.Can anything be done about it?
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This is what this about. He downloaded DarchLegend and couldnt get his app2sd to work. And then started this thread. Although its clearly working for someone else.
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This is what this about. He downloaded DarchLegend and couldnt get his app2sd to work. And then started this thread. Although its clearly working for someone else.
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seriously I try not to flame people but apps2sd is a perk on a rom not a requirement! stop trying to get a moderator involved because you dont want to do the work little bit of work that might need to be done to get something to work that YOU want.
if I didnt think it would get me susspended I would pull a page from gbhils book and post a rediculiously inapropriate image to get this thread closed down.
edit: not directed at you gomorrah I forgot that what you quoted doesnt show when I quote you.
Developers cannot sit at their computers 24/7 watching to make sure every developer updates his OP timely... u have to realize two things. One these guys developing roms 99% of them have real world jobs and families which take 99% of their time. Two, this would take time away from the mods real job which is to warn and ban offenders of the forum rules. This is not part of a mod's day to day task. Now if a developer is posting bs roms that r bricking everyones' phones that have downloaded them then yes at that point a mod would have to get involved but that has never happened to my knowledge on this site. Sorry dude but just b/c everyone else on this forum has the same phone as u doesn't mean that it will accept new rom flashes/modifications the same as someone elses. Any slight variance is settings from urs to the next guys could plunder a rom flash attempt. Do ur homework before messing with ur phone. Tons of others have had no problems so obviously they did something right. Most of all every developer always puts " Not responsible for what happens to ur phone by flashing this software" It's completely ur risk.
i see link is not being updated.. and other link is being updated.. two links active and same rom download pages.. Maybe, he clicked one of those that is not being updated and got confused.
man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
another case of the "entitled victim"... where is the vomit smilie when you need one?
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Avalaunchmods said:
man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
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Uh no you started a donation war :O.
Also in response to the person who needed a vomit smiley.
Here yah go
All I gotta say is tuff ****, read buddy.
If you want something your way do it yourself and if you cant then again tuff **** take what you get.
Avalaunchmods said:
man this whole cdma hero thread has gone downhill this week. one guy posting warez, another whining bout devs. at least theres no donation warz lol
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Yep and now theres another guy that just posted on how to get free service. What is going on here?
My theory still holds I think. People are so desperately wanting 2.1 ( not even really knowing why) and it seems to be making ppl irrational to say the least...lol
Yeah and I was hoping the op wasnt actually *****ing bout what I translated. You would assume that most people know not all devices and software run the same on 100% of devices.
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What is going on here?
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who knows... to a certain degree forums should be a priveledge not a right...
too bad we couldn't create a "pay for membership" forum where all the members control the other members, threads, guidelines, etc.
a self-moderating group of like minded people that understand the guidelines and follow them. if you could be banned with no refund, i'm sure people would be ready to follow rules, not give opinions where none were asked for or any of the other atrocities i've seen on this site since i joined just a few weeks ago.
i sometimes wonder why there aren't "etiquette moderators" that enforce common forum etiquette. i find that too often one wrong post can start 6 pages of useless banter eventually rendering the thread a personal vendetta against one person, vs the etiquette moderator simply dealing with the issue and not allowing good threads to go to thread hell.
i can dream right?
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My opinion, Android is just so seemless and appealing to everyone, not just tweakers. So what we are seeing is more folks that havent been in forums like these and understand what is right and wrong. When little petey goes to the sprint store and sees the TP2 with winmo, plays with it and says "This is just to hard for me." he then picks up the Hero and says "Wow, this phone is more asthetically appealing and much easier to use.". Hence why we now have to deal with a much lower intellect of members because quite simply, Android is a great OS.
Oh my God, I can't even believe this thread exists. I'm moving to AndroidCentral.

DEVs - You've been called upon to remove an app!

This is quoted from the developer of SetCPU and his thread:
ROM developers: I became aware of a number of devs who are now bundling this version of SetCPU with ROMs. For now, do not include SetCPU with your ROM. If it is in your ROM, please remove it. I'm probably going to find out a solution to this but barely anyone is giving (enough) credit or mentioning that it's also in the Market, and on top of that, they are putting their own donate links in there (the worst offenders do not give credit at all). Most devs are putting the APK in /system/app making purchasing (donating!) and upgrading SetCPU difficult, and rendering the one time donate link useless. That's a kick in the face to me. No dev has bothered to ask me for permission. It's really irritating me - SetCPU has been a huge effort, it's older than most of your ROMs (look at the date of this topic, look at how many times it's been updated - this isn't even the full changelog), and I would like people to at least read this thread.
I appreciate the work you're doing, but link to this thread instead. It is free here.
Here is the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
I posted this a couple weeks ago.
well I believe you should post this through the entire site as many of the dev’s have moved on to other phones I did read the notice about 3 weeks ago, it was posted, Hopefully others will follow your request even if they are just upgrading an existing rom or a new one from scratch.
Yeah, this is a very good app. .. I had no promblem getting the paid version after useing it compared to the overclock widget
Thread moved to General.
I removed from my rom before it came out of testing phase. I actually prefer overclock widget but that's a different convo
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This is quoted from the developer of SetCPU and his thread:
ROM developers: I became aware of a number of devs who are now bundling this version of SetCPU with ROMs. For now, do not include SetCPU with your ROM. If it is in your ROM, please remove it. I'm probably going to find out a solution to this but barely anyone is giving (enough) credit or mentioning that it's also in the Market, and on top of that, they are putting their own donate links in there (the worst offenders do not give credit at all). Most devs are putting the APK in /system/app making purchasing (donating!) and upgrading SetCPU difficult, and rendering the one time donate link useless. That's a kick in the face to me. No dev has bothered to ask me for permission. It's really irritating me - SetCPU has been a huge effort, it's older than most of your ROMs (look at the date of this topic, look at how many times it's been updated - this isn't even the full changelog), and I would like people to at least read this thread.
I appreciate the work you're doing, but link to this thread instead. It is free here.
Here is the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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Unless this is a PAID APP there is no reason anyone can't use it any way they see fit. This is an open source community, which means there are no requirements to give credit, that is a courtesy. I agree that they should you give you credit, but you have no right to say they can't use it.
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Unless this is a PAID APP there is no reason anyone can't use it any way they see fit. This is an open source community, which means there are no requirements to give credit, that is a courtesy. I agree that they should you give you credit, but you have no right to say they can't use it.
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If u look in the market it is a paid app. On xda he gives it out for free but respectfully asks that since its a paid app he shares here for free then he would like people to be directed to his page to get it. Makes sense to me. There is a lot of info on his page and u find out who made it and how to use it.
First off, this is another bad call by mods toi move this to a general section when out of respect for the developer of the app, it was posted in he development section since it is directly affecting ROMs that are being made.
I agree it should be sitewide but that's not my business.
In response to you, chfields, I really hope you're not directing that response to me personally. I am not the one who made the original post. I made this post so the guys here who make ROMs can respect a man's wishes. Simple as that.
cbarlan: you're absolutely correct. Devs here, as well as anywhere else, should be respectful enough to post a guide on how to use it or whatever, or at least post a simple link and not include the application, per the app dev's request.
Guys, it's a respect issue mainly. I aint stirring the **** pot, aint trying to make anyone upset, and I don't think this information will get the proper attention it deserves being shoved off into a non-related sub-forum when this information directly affects the development of any ROMs that use this app.
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I posted this a couple weeks ago.
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I had no clue you posted it. I thought it was relatively new information since the post was last edited on the 13th. My bad, and hopefully all is well with ya.
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I had no clue you posted it. I thought it was relatively new information since the post was last edited on the 13th. My bad, and hopefully all is well with ya.
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I am well. I posted it after he posted about it on Twitter. However, I got some jerks that posted on mine saying that I was just trying to stir up trouble and stuff...I am not..I just want people to be recognized for their work. He updates often and works hard. OC widget gets updated once every 6 months. How are you doing?
I am on top of the world and ready to help people out wherever I can! Thanks for asking. I think people might feel like I am trying to stir trouble too but trays not the case. When the guy posts something like that, attention needs brought to it. Know what I mean?
I had no clue you posted it. I thought it was relatively new information since the post was last edited on the 13th. My bad, and hopefully all is well with ya.
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I am well. I posted it after he posted about it on Twitter. However, I got some jerks that posted on mine saying that I was just trying to stir up trouble and stuff...I am not..I just want people to be recognized for their work. He updates often and works hard. OC widget gets updated once every 6 months. How are you doing?
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jerry43812 said:
First off, this is another bad call by mods toi move this to a general section when out of respect for the developer of the app, it was posted in he development section since it is directly affecting ROMs that are being made.
I agree it should be sitewide but that's not my business.
In response to you, chfields, I really hope you're not directing that response to me personally. I am not the one who made the original post. I made this post so the guys here who make ROMs can respect a man's wishes. Simple as that.
cbarlan: you're absolutely correct. Devs here, as well as anywhere else, should be respectful enough to post a guide on how to use it or whatever, or at least post a simple link and not include the application, per the app dev's request.
Guys, it's a respect issue mainly. I aint stirring the **** pot, aint trying to make anyone upset, and I don't think this information will get the proper attention it deserves being shoved off into a non-related sub-forum when this information directly affects the development of any ROMs that use this app.
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I was not directing this at you personally and not trying to cause trouble. I was simply stating that if it is not a paid app (which, thanks to cbarlan/papa smurf I now know that it is) he has no right to tell people they can't use it. Since it is, the point is moot...............I do apologize if it came out the wrong way..
Dude you're cool, no worries man!
First off, this is another bad call by mods toi move this to a general section when out of respect for the developer of the app, it was posted in he d
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I was not directing this at you personally and not trying to cause trouble. I was simply stating that if it is not a paid app (which, thanks to cbarlan/papa smurf I now know that it is) he has no right to tell people they can't use it. Since it is, the point is moot...............I do apologize if it came out the wrong way..
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kingxklick slide 2 g1 1.4

kings 1.4 is out at kingxklick.com if anyones interested
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smjfosho said:
Mods close this
He was banned, don't post things about him
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its perfectly fine to post this...
its not like klick is posting it. There are many threads on xda of Devs who have been banned/left xda (and they are some of the best roms)
why was he banned?
Wow
People get all crazy. He's a dev and just because you don't like him doesn't mean you have to go out like some psycho and call a dev to close a thread about him. If you don't like him, then avoid threads with his name in it! However, I love his roms and continue to use them.
Wanna pm me the link?
nvm got it. If only there was a changelog :\
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Mods close this
He was banned, don't post things about him
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WOW!!! That is a bit of a childish comment!! Sorry not trying to flame but hell
protomanez said:
Wanna pm me the link?
nvm got it. If only there was a changelog :\
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Version 1.4
- New base full wipe update
- Fasted release yet – I AM SERIOUS (getting towards the end of development until A newer leak I am afraid)
- Rougly 75% optimized
- Fixed some syntax errors in vital scripts
- Cleaned up each boot
- Fixed Permissions issues
- Cleaned up build
its on the main page . GUYS PLEASE USE THE TORRENT DOWNLOAD FOR THIS. My webserver is upset!
wow
some people really hate king which is really funny cause i remember when he would put out some of the best hero roms out there (still does) and people were on his d*&% and now he gets accused of stealing work haha and gets banned hahahahah who cares everyone copies other devs work.
P.S.
his rom is on his forum http://kingxklick.com/?p=21
nice to see someone is still working on a sense rom too bad for whoever was working on the aria rom that was never released... got my hopes up for nothing and legend was even greater disappointment... legend could have been great but now its a legend of the past...
God this rom...is fricking beautiful... *cries*
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Isn't that the point of "OPEN SOURCE" I mean lets be honest here. No dev and I mean NO as in NONE OF THEM build an android Rom from scratch. They take from the release and build it to what they want right?? So.... what did King really do? He didn't give credit?? Funny I look through these thread and no one gives credit to Android or HTC or anyone like that. Ban them all I guess!!
Just a noobs opinion!!
Thanks for the link, I'll install tomorrow!
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nice to see someone is still working on a sense rom too bad for whoever was working on the aria rom that was never released... got my hopes up for nothing and legend was even greater disappointment... legend could have been great but now its a legend of the past...
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Aria has been more difficult than originally thought but i sure someone will have one out soon dont give up hope
He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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You mean like Defcons CM6 Test builds? I'm pretty sure he didnt even change anything just a straight rip from cyans github and nobody got on his ass about it. Cyanogen even helped him out a little stop hating on King just cuz it was the thing to do like 2 weeks ago every dev is using the work of others and calling it their own with a few little changes else every Rom should have the words HTC or Google in the title. Cyan changes quite a bit but in reality its just a drop in the bucket compared to the original work put into the source we're all handed and encouraged to freely modify and distribute any way we desire with or without credit given
Huh?
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He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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Then why don't you get everyones work and make a rom out of it? I honestly don't think that it's easy to dev, spending hours on tedious work. He still put it together and got it running which is more than I can do alone. Is a giant Android Jesus going to come down and smite him of his deving powers? No. He puts time into it, that's all I need to know. I see roms like someone mentioned before of roms from Cyo's github and his other mods. People got crazy a while back when someone made a rom from Cyo's github for a rom that Cyo hadn't even released and he had to lock the thread...why? Because people get butthurt and think that it's "stealing" or whatever they want to call it. Every dev is different, they have their own preferences and all have different setups. Some create things for other developers to use. >:O
So sad KingKlik got banned...But Credit giving has been a big issue..
Do u guys remember the early day the 1.1 days..And the ROm theme Skins..
Some guy Tootall4la?? And His Frankenstein Theme??
He Made a theme and every once in awhile would change up his theme..i think he copy and pasted 2 or 3 things on to his theme from another theme..he thought it would be a good addition to his theme..and BAM!! he got banned?? he didnt source the things he got but cmon--Thats were the Frankenstein name came in..its made up of different parts..
Everytime there will be a different guinea pig to attack
I thought it was Open Sourced Project..
but any ways KingKliK I Fully Support Your ROMS!!!
Outstanding WORK!!!!!
Fact.
You guys are thinking way too hard.. open source means... Like a definition?
http://tinyurl.com/33acugo
Also, it is not about giving credit to HTC and Google, they know we are here and this community has permision to do modding and rebuilds of the source...
As I was saying king was using other people's work then, would call it his own, and he never gave credit to the work and mods done by others, had he done that he would still be here and maybe wold have finished a rom (completely).
People please stop saying we should just forget the meaning of open source... open source does not mean and is not an excuse for copying others work. Also if your defending him.. put some thought into it.
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Version 1.4
- New base full wipe update
- Fasted release yet – I AM SERIOUS (getting towards the end of development until A newer leak I am afraid)
- Rougly 75% optimized
- Fixed some syntax errors in vital scripts
- Cleaned up each boot
- Fixed Permissions issues
- Cleaned up build
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So he has fixed nothing as normal but it gos like a bat out of hell.
In other words he is using a new version on winzip
And you forgot to add the credits to the people that did the DEV work in your post!

For all those who used my ROM, reFREeze, what did you think? (DO NOT FLAME)

For those who tried it, How did you like reFREeze. For those who havent tried it, look at the other thread.
Any bugs, questions, concerns can be posted here. NO FLAMES!!!!!!!!
why could this not have been posted in the original thread for your rom?
dont consider this a flame, its not. i just think its unnecessary to start a feedback thread for a rom that already has a thread
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why could this not have been posted in the original thread for your rom?
dont consider this a flame, its not. i just think its unnecessary to start a feedback thread for a rom that already has a thread
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So i could get away from that inferno of the original thread. Look at my signature!
gee wilikers, batman, its a flame-fest in here!!!
This is not necessary, people that try ur rom will always post feedback in the thread, it's how everyone learns and the community grows. Not flaming, u made a rom something I can't do, but u don't need this thread.
EDIT(saw ur reply): I understand, that's their bad, they need to give you a chance. I'll give it a try later and post back in the roms thread.
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This is not necessary, people that try ur rom will always post feedback in the thread, it's how everyone learns and the community grows. Not flaming, u made a rom something I can't do, but u don't need this thread.
EDIT(saw ur reply): I understand, that's their bad, they need to give you a chance. I'll give it a try later and post back in the roms thread.
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Thanks.
gee wilikers, batman, its a flame-fest in here!!!
Yeah just relax man, people will definitely try it. Give it time, people have work, families, and other priorities and don't have time to switch ROM's 24/7...even if it's tempting! I'll give it a shot too if I have time. But works been super crazy so we'll see. But don't double thread.. you don't want to clog up the forum
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Yeah just relax man, people will definitely try it. Give it time, people have work, families, and other priorities and don't have time to switch ROM's 24/7...even if it's tempting! I'll give it a shot too if I have time. But works been super crazy so we'll see. But don't double thread.. you don't want to clog up the forum
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I check d/l on megaupload every 5minutes. This may be paranoid, but
I just want.to know if peoplelike my rom, as it was my contribution to the community
gee wilikers, batman, its a flame-fest in here!!!
I tried for a short bit. No FCs but as has been pointed out without the GPS, camera, etc not much point. Using Quadrant it was okay, about like most of the other 2.2 stuff. A positive note is that it worked well with the overclocking stuff.
I can only imagine how much time it took to construct so thanks for that - but you'll need to catch up with some of the other devs.
Again, thanks for the efforts.
I see things have started to cool off in the actual rom thread, this essentially just adds another needless thread to the forum. Mods please delete this.
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Hey do you guys think this is the guy who made multiple accounts before the other week saying he was able to put fryo on the dInc by downloading the source or something and called it something like b1u31c3 or something lol
TNS201 said:
Hey do you guys think this is the guy who made multiple accounts before the other week saying he was able to put fryo on the dInc by downloading the source or something and called it something like b1u31c3 or something lol
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Yes, I do.
TNS201 said:
Hey do you guys think this is the guy who made multiple accounts before the other week saying he was able to put fryo on the dInc by downloading the source or something and called it something like b1u31c3 or something lol
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Yes, it's the same guy.
Its not rr13$6 or whatever his name was. Please dont tarnish my reputation by stating the untrue
DO I HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE.CLEAR THAT THIS IS A NO FLAME THREAD?
Phone:
HTC Incredible
ROM: reFREeze 1.0 with hydra ovuv 1.15
Recovery: Clockworkmod
romflash said:
Its not rr13$6 or whatever his name was. Please dont tarnish my reputation by stating the untrue
DO I HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE.CLEAR THAT THIS IS A NO FLAME THREAD?
Phone:
HTC Incredible
ROM: reFREeze 1.0 with hydra ovuv 1.15
Recovery: Clockworkmod
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Who's flaming? We are just making an observation.
This thread is flaming the development section....
jonnybueno said:
This thread is flaming the development section....
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+1 to this, mods please close thread.
romflash said:
Its not rr13$6 or whatever his name was. Please dont tarnish my reputation by stating the untrue
DO I HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE.CLEAR THAT THIS IS A NO FLAME THREAD?
Phone:
HTC Incredible
ROM: reFREeze 1.0 with hydra ovuv 1.15
Recovery: Clockworkmod
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Just the fact that you even acknowledge this person as potentially being you screams that you are him. You did the exact same thing in the last three threads that you made on three different accounts trying to fool people. You also are the only person on this forum who I've seen that speaks as if they're a little kid. Why are you trying so desperately hard to fit in? If you're not good enough then you're not good enough. Leave it at that. Clogging up the forums with your terrible attempts at making ROMs isn't helping anyone.
JTCGiants56 said:
Just the fact that you even acknowledge this person as potentially being you screams that you are him. You did the exact same thing in the last three threads that you made on three different accounts trying to fool people. You also are the only person on this forum who I've seen that speaks as if they're a little kid. Why are you trying so desperately hard to fit in? If you're not good enough then you're not good enough. Leave it at that. Clogging up the forums with your terrible attempts at making ROMs isn't helping anyone.
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He is a little kid. If I recall correctly, there was a youtube video with his prepubescent voice on it
To the OP, seriously man, just give up on this. You can't just take someone elses rom +/- apks to it and call it your rom. i guess this happened alot with Moto Droid too. People would just through together a bunch of other peoples work and call it their rom, but they did credit the devs of those apks that were used.
Its good that you are experimenting with stuff but you don't have to release stuff to the public. Keep it to yourself to enjoy. Releasing someone elses modified work and then waiting on them to fix stuff isnt the way to go. It seems you want to get complimented for doing work and releasing something, but it just hurts your rep more the way you are doing things.
Can we get this thread deleted. What kind of 2 year old makes two threads moments apart.
I don't think you should call it YOUR ROM, considering close to 0% of it is your original work.

In response to Gothi thread closed.

Allegations of Kanging.
Since it appears that I am not going to receive a message from the XDA staff or the member who has made the complaint [which is a requirement of the rules I was supposed to have broken - see below], here is my response:
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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1. Thread clearly states that I am using the EB/TW base.
2. Using Eugenes kernel - There are several publicly available posts from Eugene stating that he does not care:
Eugene_373 Eugene373 / BH_MAN
@
[email protected] i see mine all the time! With my notes removed in scripts. No biggy though!
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3. Personal message from Sombionix saying to feel free to use what I need from TW releases, in response to notifying him that I had run a diff on a TW file to find the location of a text color:
sombionix said:
jellette said:
Hey, even though no one would ever know, I'll post credit to you in my next update.
It was driving me nuts that I couldn't set the secondary menu text to white - remove "inverse"... - so I ended up doing a diff on one of the TW frameworks to find it.
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No worries, feel free to use it or anything else you need.
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4. SD mounting in settings.apk fix by EDT member Whitehawkx and posted in original 4g thread - also given to Krylon360:
Whitehawkx said:
@Krylon360
@Eugene373
I have modded the Settings.apk to show both the internal and external storage. It works and does show both, but it displays the internal memory on both fields. Using the stock kernel provided with the rom I have not been able to access my external memory card (haven't cared either b/c I never use it). I'm assuming this is why it is displaying the same on both.
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5. Wifi fix by myself of EDT and posted in original 4g thread:
Finally happy that the Einherjar Dev Team makes a contribution or two to this project!
Along with the AOSP lockscreens.
Wifi fix
1.32MB
Flash in recovery - not tested without Eugenes replacement build.prop
If you flash without the new build.prop and it works, let us know.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ndp9tv4gg99f23f
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6. Theme is a mix of Flagship, CM7, MIUI, Gingerbread and Honeycomb.
7. AOSP lockscreen by EDT member Whitehawkx and posted in original 4g thread:
Whitehawkx said:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16614486/android.policy.jar
Aosp lockscreen. Not flashable. Push to /system/framework.
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Whitehawkx said:
AOSP lockscreen. Flash through clockwork.
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I see no grounds for a continuation and thread should be re-opened.
Upon re-reading rule 12, it appears that both the member who made the complaint and the Mod who closed the thread will need to review rule 12 as the protocols that it sets forth were not followed.
Let me also note here that Sombionix and myself have a great working relationship and that I do not expect this to change that.
Let me start with this, I think it sucks that this is going on with you guys.
I contacted @Krylon360 last night and told him that wasn't a good thing.
I hate how someone can kang someone and NOTHING happens but when someone else kangs someone everything happens.
When I talked to him I told him what he did wasn't good & he just said well they put a lot of work into it.
Let me tell you, my secgps script is in bionix, opened a case, nothing happened. I sent stock, mine, and his, and they told me nothing could be done because of the '#Generated by' at the top even though I sent stock aslo (Which is way different)
I spent a while to get that to work for some of the people having gps problems, and to my suprise krylon knew what GPS script I was talking last night (I also have screenies, but not trying to start anything) He said "Yeah, Frost isn't using the one that is in bionix"
If they wanted the dev wars to stop, why did they start this again?
//Just mad, not trying to start flame wars here
Okay, let me start this over again (EDIT By the way..)
I just guess I don't see how a team can kang people & nothing be done but another team 'kang' someone and the thread gets closed.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is, if you didn't give credit, that would be one thing.. But hell, they don't even give credit..
//Once again, sorry, just mad
This kanging subject has really gotten out of hand. Maybe i am wrong since i am not a dev but tell me this ain't most of the codes,scripts,kernel,and such written by google or the phones manufacturer and the devs just change a few lines of code and such to basically say that it his or hers. If thats the case android wouldnt be open source in which its suppose to be. everyone steals from everybody thats the way the world world works get used to it. I'm sorry but team whiskey should be called called team drunk with power or team anal retentive. If they are so worried about everyone kanging their brilliant ideas I'm suprised that they don't stop the themers from themeing their roms since you know how anal they can be. Which in point somehow i feel they really cant say anything cause if it wasn't for supercurio and his voodoo injected kernels then where would their rom's be thank goodness he says that he doesnt care who uses his work too bad everyone can not think and be like he is. unless you can truly prove that you built your kernel, rom, etc from the ground up with no source or anything then you probably are in the same boat as the one's you are accusing of stealing your work.
Bad moderating on XDA... SHOCKER.
Hate that happened, hope it doesnt discourage you at all. EDT has made some huge ground and I appreciate ALL of our wonderful developers/themers... ALL of them.
How long have you been working on this project?
Now that you got it 100% they want to take your work away....it couldn't be done ...you proved them wrong...that's what they are pissed about...lol
All I want to say is I appreciate each and every DEV and every TEAM on here at XDA. But really, who cares, who does what and who did what first. We (consumer) appreciate it all and I feel you all get donated to equally. With that said....
TEAM EDT - Do your thing! Love your work and will continue to support you guys fully! Master you as well!
Everything I've seen from EDT, they always give credit and offer info to anyone about where they get anything they use. You guys seem very honest, and I don't know why anyone would freak out about you using anything from them.
I hope you guys get this figured out so you can keep churning out great roms!
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UGH, It seems as though all devs play nice with each other for a couple weeks and then something like this pops up seemingly out of nowhere.
It's like the menstrual cycle of XDA developers. lol.
I am not partial to any certain DEV. I've first used TW roms then made the move to Trigger. Both great teams who put out great stuff.
Hopefully this gets worked out. I mean come on guys. It seems at least to me all devs try to give credit where it's due. Can't we all just get along?
PEACE BE WITH YOU!
WHats funny, is I have seen in TW threads, EDT members giving them certain help and vice versa. Just in the one krylon is working on I see JF giving help with certain scripts and krylon using them to adjust things to get them working. So why in the world would he be upset.
I usually supports TW and their roms but in this case I would have to go with EDT.
It just seems a little extreme to immediately report a thread and not be able to talk privately before public actions were taken.
In addition, obviously at one point TW posted the source, or at one point given it to EDT. Now, EDT used it in a rom and has given credit to TW/EB in their opening post, I failed to understand how this is constituted as Kanging.
irockstar661 said:
WHats funny, is I have seen in TW threads, EDT members giving them certain help and vice versa. Just in the one krylon is working on I see JF giving help with certain scripts and krylon using them to adjust things to get them working. So why in the world would he be upset.
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@the person who got the thread locked don't be a
Hypocrite!
THERE!
I SAID IT AGAIN!
now let's not start another flame-fest.
Let's undo the wrongs and move forward.
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
scrizz said:
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
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Exactly...there is so much potential that goes unrealized when these things happen.
scrizz said:
@the person who got the thread locked don't be a
Hypocrite!
THERE!
I SAID IT AGAIN!
now let's not start another flame-fest.
Let's undo the wrongs and move forward.
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
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Its the truth....
I've seen Master help both TW/EDT, Ive seen the xboarder help with MUIU, I've seen EDT help TW, and TW help EDT. It's been great here recently, why ruin it now krylon? I followed you and your work closely and this will not effect that, but this was way out of line bro!
In fact. most of you KANG sammy! hahaha
i don't think any dev here will probably say i did all the work by myself i dont need help doing anything from anyone i built the kernel,rom,themed,etc... by myself. i even manufactured the phone and distributed it out of the trunk of my car this is totally mine.
Removed. Posted out of anger towards a certain dev.
Correct me if im wrong, but wasn't EDT a collaborator in the original build of the 2.2.1 kernel base that both TW and EDT are using? I don't see an issue here as they have just as much right to use the 2.2.1 kernel as any one else does.
smashpunks said:
Ban me if you want, but Krylon, that was a punk ***** move..
I've never used anything of jellettes till rc3 of last night, I've only used team whiskey ****. Anyways, I don't think OP did anything wrong. I am ashamed to have anything krylon on my phone..
Op I support you 100%. Win this battle.... krylon you should be ashamed of yourself...
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That's the kind of fanboyism that we want to avoid in a thread like this one. Otherwise, this thread will just get closed like the 2.2.1 EDT thread (not because of fanboy issues).
PaiPiePia said:
That's the kind of fanboyism that we want to avoid in a thread like this one. Otherwise, this thread will just get closed like the 2.2.1 EDT thread (not because of fanboy issues).
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Apparently you didn't read my post.. It says ban me if you want. Meaning what was coming next is probably out of line. Didn't take a genius to figure that out lol...
P.s. Look up fan boy.lol I use krylon all the time, not jillette, but I'm sticking up for jillette... Lol @ fanboy.
Seriously people.... can we all just.... get along????
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smashpunks said:
Apparently you didn't read my post.. It says ban me if you want. Meaning what was coming next is probably out of line. Didn't take a genius to figure that out lol...
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No one care about you getting banned, I am more worried about the thread getting closed because of people like you.

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