This is not intended to be mean personally, but this confusion needs to be sorted out.
1. there is a reason why mimocan's lagfix is the only fix stickied.
2. there is a reason why cyanogen has chosen supercurio's voodoo fix to be implemented with Cyanogen *A hugely famous ROM*
I think this speaks for itself. I urge people to consider the fact why are Cyanogen choosing the voodoo method to implement as their lagfix and not the one click fix.
I know not much on this technical details of all this. But logic tells me that if Cyanogen is behind supercurio then that is all that needs to be said. beta2 will be out within days, as for a public release hold tight.
Just wait and see, and donate some money for the hard work I know curio has put in.
Ryan I welcome a rebuttal on this, but you can't really argue that the team at cyanogen are incorrect in supporting the 'wrong lag fix concept'..
This just in:
Lag Fix - There are different ways of doing it.
Well I don't think Cyanogen would have flipped a coin to decide whichfix they will use..
Give cyanogen team some credit please..
Give RyanZA some credit. He's never claimed that his solution is the only solution, or that it's the best one. It is a solution.
As for Mimocan's, I'm guessing it's stickied because he was the first person to come up with a solution.
RyanZA's fix has gained popularity IMHO because it's easy to apply.
You are missing the point of the thread then.
It is confusing for users with the fixes available. The better/safest one needs to be pointed out.
Ryan has done a great job and I praise his work and intentions.
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Just wait and see, and donate some money for the hard work I know curio has put in.
Ryan I welcome a rebuttal on this, but you can't really argue that the team at cyanogen are incorrect in supporting the 'wrong lag fix concept'..
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Wrong? What is wrong? There is no right or wrong, please get that straight.
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Wrong? What is wrong? There is no right or wrong, please get that straight.
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it was in inverted comma's for a reason..
make love not war. C'mon lads
Please be open and kind about this discussion, I apologise if the tone was set in a negative way.
The aim is just to inform the newer users that the preferenced fix is endorsed by a hugely respected dev team at cyanogen.
This forum may have alliances towards the wrong advice.
I am simply putting it out there as an external view point on this, it is important to note that for cyanogen to back the voodoo fix, this itself holds great merit in this debate. as apposed to the in fighting/tension that has been in this forum.
I do not apologise for pointing out the elephant in the room though.
Is cyanogen bringing out a galaxy s rom?
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Is cyanogen bringing out a galaxy s rom?
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yes here is the update
http://bit.ly/cmprogress
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4527-running-update-thread-on-sgs-progress/
cmon, the tone of your post is already a huge disrespect to RyanZa. I've been using lagfixes since Modaco Paul's nand-fix, then Mimocan, then RyanZa and now Supercurio's voodoo fix.
I have huge respect to all of them for the work and dedication they do which makes our life a little better. I'd just like to offer an observation, when RyanZa's one-click fix came out, he was being cheered and praised like a popstar. Then later when Supercurio's voodoo fix came out, some of those who cheered ryan previously quickly turn to disparaging him. What hypocrites...
I am not here to argue about the merits and demerits of each lagfix. I am not nearly knowlegable enough. But what is the "BEST" method?? there are people who are still happily using Modaco paul's nand-fix and lately there are some who has stopped using lagfixes altogether because they felt samsung's latest firmwares improved the situation for them. Should we then try to "convert" everyone to use supercurio voodoo fix just becoz some ppl feel it's the best and cyanogen team has chosen it? Cyanogen team has also chosen to use ADW launcher only. Should everyone else stop using Launcher Pro?
The point abt android systems is CHOICE. this is why i use android phone instead of Steve Job's "we know what's best for you" iphone.
I'm cool.
Just a recap,
First there was this modaco fix by Paul, moving apps into dbdata, even zenkinz do it in another way, which is to shift all the system data into the dbdata.
Then came mimocan's fix (believe there was 2 versions: ext3 and ext4)
Next came ykk_five idea, which RyanZA had followed on, in fact there were 3 versions. version 1, version 2 and the apk. Tayutama's uses script to install the lag fixes, and Chainsfire lagfix where there is a better UI. All these are variants.
All these fixes were applied by the various people, at different times, and most, if not all gained from these fixes, be it temporary or permanent.
As the product evolve, so does the lagfixes. The beginning was using adb commands, and later evolve into one app which can be downloaded. That's how we progresses.
And at this point of time, sc's fix is an excellent way of eliminating lag, but I definitely don't believe that it is going to be the last.
Of course, YMMV.
Please start saying what you mean or don't say anything.
You talk in vague term, repeating "there's a reason why..." without naming the reason you mean. You say "I think this speaks for itself". What speaks for itself? And what does it say? You haven't told us.
You're showing that you have a strong opinion for or against certain devs or solutions. You did not make this topic because you are actually asking for people to tell you which lagfix you should use. You made it because you want people to change to your point of view, or discredit you disagree with. And you do it by talking vaguely, without any relevant arguments. The only type of argument I could find was "Well, I think A is cool, and A is saying B is cool, so that must mean B is pretty cool! Guys, go for B, it's the only true path!"
Right now you sound to me like someone who wants to whine or *****, but knows he shouldn't, or who is too afraid to. I find that quite incorrect and annoying.
Please behave. Please let people make their own choices about this stuff by reading whatever they are interested in, without this weird type of drama-starting behavior.
Thread moved to General.
Wise man once said "Whether it's black cat or white cat. So long as it can catch a mouse, it's a good cat."
On that note can we delete this thread?
If everyone has full faith that any and all fixes are 100% safe then so be it.
'I'm just a boy who's intentions are good, oh lord please don't let me be misundertood'
You know what they say about the road to hell...
Lol yeah... I know , im just concerned one of the cats may have a terminal illness I guess
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Lol yeah... I know , im just concerned one of the cats may have a terminal illness I guess
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Lol exactly what I opened this thread for, although nobody has addressed this yet....
Related
I was wondering if someone could make a ROM for me... I know that it's kind of unreasonable to ask a chef that already devotes alot of their free time to make a special ROM but I figure'd, what the hey?
I like the Plain Jane sense ROM that Jcase made but I was wondering if someone could take that ROM and run with it a little more like fixing the TWS 50% bug, removing the bloatware, improving battery life ( if possible),adding apps2sd and JIT. This is assuming that it can be done. Don't worry, my feelings won't be hurt if there aren't any takers. Thanks!
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I was wondering if someone could make a ROM for me... I know that it's kind of unreasonable to ask a chef that already devotes alot of their free time to make a special ROM but I figure'd, what the hey?
I like the Plain Jane sense ROM that Jcase made but I was wondering if someone could take that ROM and run with it a little more like fixing the TWS 50% bug, removing the bloatware, improving battery life ( if possible),adding apps2sd and JIT. This is assuming that it can be done. Don't worry, my feelings won't be hurt if there aren't any takers. Thanks!
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Word of advice. You want something, learn it. TWS is a joke. No battery difference. Dont care what anyone says. Removing bloatware can be done via either adb or root explorer. Sounds like you dont want to learn, so invest a few bucks and buy root explorer. You can access system files and remove them that way. Improving battery life is by changing OC options.
Dont mean to sound like a **** but you are asking for stuff that is already out there or can be done by you by either running a flash able update or by adb. Google is your friend.
Re: ROM request...
First of all tws is not a joke because. If it was a joke, developers wouldn't be talking about fixes for it. Second, are you a dev? Or are you just having fun throwing around your little bit of knowledge for everyone else here to ooh and aw over and say "oh kevlar is soo smart!" Im looking for feedback from an established developer.... I. E. Not you. Thanks.
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First of all tws is not a joke because. If it was a joke, developers wouldn't be talking about fixes for it. Second, are you a dev? Or are you just having fun throwing around your little bit of knowledge for everyone else here to ooh and aw over and say "oh kevlar is soo smart!" Im looking for feedback from an established developer.... I. E. Not you. Thanks.
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LOL. Man, I needed that. Yes, I am not a dev. Never said I was. But I know how to read. Clearly you are too lazy to do that. But hey, I cant wait for a dev to chime in. This will make for some good comedy.
And I wont respond to this thread after this, so ya dont have to worry about my non dev talk.
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First of all tws is not a joke because. If it was a joke, developers wouldn't be talking about fixes for it. Second, are you a dev? Or are you just having fun throwing around your little bit of knowledge for everyone else here to ooh and aw over and say "oh kevlar is soo smart!" Im looking for feedback from an established developer.... I. E. Not you. Thanks.
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I may be no special dev, but I can honestly say Kevlar is 100% correct. The tools are on this forum and devs can't take out the time to make special roms for each person. All I do is port roms for the community and that's even a hassle, o do everyone a favor and reaed up a little bit. It will do you some good.
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I may be no special dev, but I can honestly say Kevlar is 100% correct. The tools are on this forum and devs can't take out the time to make special roms for each person. All I do is port roms for the community and that's even a hassle, o do everyone a favor and reaed up a little bit. It will do you some good.
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+1 on that. Especially the porting being a pain in the ass thing.
Not so sure about TWS though, as when I fix it I DO see battery life improvements. And it's with OC off. But I'm no dev either so I could be wrong.
lol you are seriously asking for people to make you a ROM?? for free. I just have one question. What makes you think you're so special...
I find it hilarious that even when I have a request that is stated in the most polite, non-begging, completely understanding and respectful way of the ones who would actually be able and capable of helping me out, the trolls of XDA STILL have nothing better to do than flame me. This was a very simple question AND I even stated that I understand the time constraints of the developers. Also, being that I have flashed just about every ROM for the Eris there is right now, I don't really have a problem reading and researching...I have a problem with developing (you know, the whole reason for my question in the first place). So I'd like to thank you guys so much for really making a mountain out of a mole hill here. ADMIN: Could someone please delete this topic? The children can't seem to play nice.
Maybe you should wait till Christmas and ask someone to make you one.
Or maybe offer some money, people might be more inclined to make 1 ROM for 1 person.
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I find it hilarious that even when I have a request that is stated in the most polite, non-begging, completely understanding and respectful way of the ones who would actually be able and capable of helping me out, the trolls of XDA STILL have nothing better to do than flame me. This was a very simple question AND I even stated that I understand the time constraints of the developers. Also, being that I have flashed just about every ROM for the Eris there is right now, I don't really have a problem reading and researching...I have a problem with developing (you know, the whole reason for my question in the first place). So I'd like to thank you guys so much for really making a mountain out of a mole hill here. ADMIN: Could someone please delete this topic? The children can't seem to play nice.
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semmtexx don't call me a troll. I asked you one simple question. I never stooped down to your level to name calling. I asked you to answer a very simple question. AND I'd still like to know it. You should live by a golden rule. IF you want something done right DO IT YOURSELF. Now, back to my question. Why DO YOU, think you're so special, that someone is going to take time out of their life, to build YOU a ROM, for FREE, to a STRANGER. Sorry but I don't think I'm the troll here.
PS, ONE last thing, and what exactly are you getting so upset about. You open a thread, people respond, you don't like the way they respond now you ask the ADMINs to WASTE their time cleaning up crap that shouldn't have ever been made. do us all a favor, and read before you write.
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I was wondering if someone could make a ROM for me... I know that it's kind of unreasonable to ask a chef that already devotes alot of their free time to make a special ROM but I figure'd, what the hey?
I like the Plain Jane sense ROM that Jcase made but I was wondering if someone could take that ROM and run with it a little more like fixing the TWS 50% bug, removing the bloatware, improving battery life ( if possible),adding apps2sd and JIT. This is assuming that it can be done. Don't worry, my feelings won't be hurt if there aren't any takers. Thanks!
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check out xtrROM. not custome taylored but sounds like it has "most" of what you are looking for...
TWS is only about half fixed and I have yet to add apps2sd however there is a bit more room on the phone after all the boatware has been removed.
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check out xtrROM. not custome taylored but sounds like it has "most" of what you are looking for...
TWS is only about half fixed and I have yet to add apps2sd however there is a bit more room on the phone after all the boatware has been removed.
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Ah.. Thanks for the constructive input, zach.xtr. I must admit, I flashed your latest (well not the Vboost quite yet) this morning and the battery life seems damn good even with OC. I can see myself sticking with yours for a while. I actually had 2 PM's today from two developers wondering if I'd like them to work on a ROM for me.... for a price of course. I really don't know why Blazed One thinks that I am assuming that I am "special" and would like a ROM for free. I really didn't state either of those things nor would I. Oh and Blazed One, I'll be sure to let you know how my custom ROM turns out. I may even give you the name of the developer that I end up going with, if you are nice. Thanks again zach.xtr for you hard work. This latest is really great.
Well this was an interesting read.
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well this was an interesting read.
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lol! Lol! Lol!
Well this was an interesting read.
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Derived from an interesting mind.... holla.
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You will not get data back if you flash EB01 modem from Fascinate!
There a workaround posted below
Yeah, noob had me test this, and it failed spectacularily.
I didn't get Data back, so I odin'd back to DI18 and waited about an hour.
Lo and behold, 3G came back.
I'll post more details when i get back later on tonight.
Dont plan on it,I can wait till 4 hours after the OTA gets ripped to an update.zip thats pre-rooted and deodexed on 21st... Unless I or someone else can get the leak first.
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Why would someone use the modem from a different phone...
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Ya that doesn't sound smart too me, wouldn't do that and ill wait til the official source and the new bonsai rom to upgrade any modems and what not, probably wait a day or 2 after so they can iron put early issues.l with there script and what not, I would never flash a modem that wasn't mentioned for my phone
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Why would someone use the modem from a different phone...
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Cause they are noobs and kinda dumb... idk why people do things to there phone especially when they don't know what there doing
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Noobnl, that is why YOU don't tell people to do it. Use your own damn phone as a lab rat and stop attempting to destroy other folks equipment.
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Noobnl, that is why YOU don't tell people to do it. Use your own damn phone as a lab rat and stop attempting to destroy other folks equipment.
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I have to agree with this, if something needs to be tested i think it should be done by the person who wants it tested not someone else.Its very irresponsible to have someone flash something that you won't flash yourself first.
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I have to agree with this, if something needs to be tested i think it should be done by the person who wants it tested not someone else.Its very irresponsible to have someone flash something that you won't flash yourself first.
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+1
Althought I only due themes but this is the practice I follow. If it don't work on my phone wjy would I give it someone else.
Flashing anything has a chance of bricking your phone people. Don't flash something cause someone told you especially if they didn't test it them selfs.
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When you flash ANYTHING you take the risk of destroying your device. I'm almost positive that Noob made sure to voice the possible issues that could come from flashing it. Don't down on him, if he says wanna flash something for me? It might break your phone though, and you accept its not his fault if you brick it.
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Noobnl, that is why YOU don't tell people to do it. Use your own damn phone as a lab rat and stop attempting to destroy other folks equipment.
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Everyone has a choice whether to try it or not. Noobnl is a well respected contributer here and I would lay off noobnl if u want him to continue his work. There is nothing wrong with asking people to test something out. Each phone is different. Read threw the forums everyone is experiencing different problems with different roms. Its hit or miss. Atleast he was kind enough to warn us about. I tell u what if noobnl asked me to test something I would without thinking twice.
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noobnl is active in the irc and communicates with these people about potential risks, so far he is one of the ONLY people doing development work on the Epic and currently he only has one device, if people are willing to test stuff so he can keep his device up and working than good for him. quit *****in and talkin about things you have no idea about
Am I insane are are the same people screaming about the lack of development here now screaming at noobnl for trying to develop for our phones?
You do realize that development is sometimes trial and error and there will always be bugs, right? Everyone who flashes anything or uses any workaround on this site is testing things that might destroy their phone but this you have a problem with? Wow.
i want to brick my phone EVERY day. if you dont, there are other forums for that. whats wrong with you people. this forums name is xda-DEVELOPERS. not xda-cryingbabies
Always riding noobnl and not his ass either! Noobnl...your our only hope... Only hope...only hope. It was bad taste but I'm sure the dude was willing. Still bad taste. To the men out there on noobnls johnson, hes a dude y'all post like your walking on egg shells. "oooooh noo if we say something mean he ll leave and its 2.1 forever. Dont be suprised when source is out to find out how wrong you guys are lol. 4 real what rom are all of you on andromeda? Must have more than 1 dev here then.
/end rant
: reports to the impaler for his infraction:
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Before this thread gets locked can someone please tell me what makes noobnl so great? And why he should be above the law?
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Before this thread gets locked can someone please tell me what makes noobnl so great? And why he should be above the law?
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That's a very confrontationally phrased question you got there and it makes it kinda difficult to answer in a manner that won't be taken as an attack on your opinion.
I will speak for nobody else, but for your first question, "...what makes noobnl so great?", here's my answer:
Nobody but you has stated that noobnl's "great". It is a seemingly resentful statement especially when the viewer reads on and sees that you also believe him "above the law". Therefore, I can only conclude that you personally consider him a great man but are resentful (for whatever reason) of that greatness.
The second question, "why should he be above the law?", I'm a bit confused about. How is he exhibiting behavior or actions that you perceive as "above the law"? I see no police here nor do I see him committing any crimes...but this is the internet and I only see him as a name and words and am not involved with his life outside of these sites. If he is, in fact, breaking the law and you have witnessed it, it is your duty as a citizen to report his activities to the authorities. Otherwise, aren't you just as guilty as he?
I appreciate your willingness to put together ROMS and such and put work into this phone. I am certain that someday, you, too will be so great that other people will take a chance on not reporting illegal activities that you perform, either.
Keep up the good work, Mystery, and don't let the naysayers get to you. Just focus on what you're doing and remember that it's for yourself; if you're happy with what you're doing, don't let anyone else force you to believe otherwise.
What rules did he break?
but anyways man he's not the only Dev "above the law"
he's trying hard to make cm6/cm7 work on our epic and would've been done by now if samsung/sprint handled their business but he's a very active Dev even though he has school and i believe he provided us with our first leak?and provided us with 1Click root? and he's been trying to get another leak apparently.
No im not **** riding but you have to admit noobnl has probably done the most SO FAR when it comes to development on the Epic but im not taking away from other Devs like the ACS team who made the Smoothest/Fastest 2.1 rom i've ever seen.
But leave noobnl alone people should know the risk of testing for him and im sure noobnl wouldn't do it was pointless
I am not Above the law.. I warned them.. testing something is only way to learn something
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Allegations of Kanging.
Since it appears that I am not going to receive a message from the XDA staff or the member who has made the complaint [which is a requirement of the rules I was supposed to have broken - see below], here is my response:
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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1. Thread clearly states that I am using the EB/TW base.
2. Using Eugenes kernel - There are several publicly available posts from Eugene stating that he does not care:
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[email protected] i see mine all the time! With my notes removed in scripts. No biggy though!
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3. Personal message from Sombionix saying to feel free to use what I need from TW releases, in response to notifying him that I had run a diff on a TW file to find the location of a text color:
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jellette said:
Hey, even though no one would ever know, I'll post credit to you in my next update.
It was driving me nuts that I couldn't set the secondary menu text to white - remove "inverse"... - so I ended up doing a diff on one of the TW frameworks to find it.
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No worries, feel free to use it or anything else you need.
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4. SD mounting in settings.apk fix by EDT member Whitehawkx and posted in original 4g thread - also given to Krylon360:
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I have modded the Settings.apk to show both the internal and external storage. It works and does show both, but it displays the internal memory on both fields. Using the stock kernel provided with the rom I have not been able to access my external memory card (haven't cared either b/c I never use it). I'm assuming this is why it is displaying the same on both.
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5. Wifi fix by myself of EDT and posted in original 4g thread:
Finally happy that the Einherjar Dev Team makes a contribution or two to this project!
Along with the AOSP lockscreens.
Wifi fix
1.32MB
Flash in recovery - not tested without Eugenes replacement build.prop
If you flash without the new build.prop and it works, let us know.
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6. Theme is a mix of Flagship, CM7, MIUI, Gingerbread and Honeycomb.
7. AOSP lockscreen by EDT member Whitehawkx and posted in original 4g thread:
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16614486/android.policy.jar
Aosp lockscreen. Not flashable. Push to /system/framework.
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AOSP lockscreen. Flash through clockwork.
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I see no grounds for a continuation and thread should be re-opened.
Upon re-reading rule 12, it appears that both the member who made the complaint and the Mod who closed the thread will need to review rule 12 as the protocols that it sets forth were not followed.
Let me also note here that Sombionix and myself have a great working relationship and that I do not expect this to change that.
Let me start with this, I think it sucks that this is going on with you guys.
I contacted @Krylon360 last night and told him that wasn't a good thing.
I hate how someone can kang someone and NOTHING happens but when someone else kangs someone everything happens.
When I talked to him I told him what he did wasn't good & he just said well they put a lot of work into it.
Let me tell you, my secgps script is in bionix, opened a case, nothing happened. I sent stock, mine, and his, and they told me nothing could be done because of the '#Generated by' at the top even though I sent stock aslo (Which is way different)
I spent a while to get that to work for some of the people having gps problems, and to my suprise krylon knew what GPS script I was talking last night (I also have screenies, but not trying to start anything) He said "Yeah, Frost isn't using the one that is in bionix"
If they wanted the dev wars to stop, why did they start this again?
//Just mad, not trying to start flame wars here
Okay, let me start this over again (EDIT By the way..)
I just guess I don't see how a team can kang people & nothing be done but another team 'kang' someone and the thread gets closed.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is, if you didn't give credit, that would be one thing.. But hell, they don't even give credit..
//Once again, sorry, just mad
This kanging subject has really gotten out of hand. Maybe i am wrong since i am not a dev but tell me this ain't most of the codes,scripts,kernel,and such written by google or the phones manufacturer and the devs just change a few lines of code and such to basically say that it his or hers. If thats the case android wouldnt be open source in which its suppose to be. everyone steals from everybody thats the way the world world works get used to it. I'm sorry but team whiskey should be called called team drunk with power or team anal retentive. If they are so worried about everyone kanging their brilliant ideas I'm suprised that they don't stop the themers from themeing their roms since you know how anal they can be. Which in point somehow i feel they really cant say anything cause if it wasn't for supercurio and his voodoo injected kernels then where would their rom's be thank goodness he says that he doesnt care who uses his work too bad everyone can not think and be like he is. unless you can truly prove that you built your kernel, rom, etc from the ground up with no source or anything then you probably are in the same boat as the one's you are accusing of stealing your work.
Bad moderating on XDA... SHOCKER.
Hate that happened, hope it doesnt discourage you at all. EDT has made some huge ground and I appreciate ALL of our wonderful developers/themers... ALL of them.
How long have you been working on this project?
Now that you got it 100% they want to take your work away....it couldn't be done ...you proved them wrong...that's what they are pissed about...lol
All I want to say is I appreciate each and every DEV and every TEAM on here at XDA. But really, who cares, who does what and who did what first. We (consumer) appreciate it all and I feel you all get donated to equally. With that said....
TEAM EDT - Do your thing! Love your work and will continue to support you guys fully! Master you as well!
Everything I've seen from EDT, they always give credit and offer info to anyone about where they get anything they use. You guys seem very honest, and I don't know why anyone would freak out about you using anything from them.
I hope you guys get this figured out so you can keep churning out great roms!
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UGH, It seems as though all devs play nice with each other for a couple weeks and then something like this pops up seemingly out of nowhere.
It's like the menstrual cycle of XDA developers. lol.
I am not partial to any certain DEV. I've first used TW roms then made the move to Trigger. Both great teams who put out great stuff.
Hopefully this gets worked out. I mean come on guys. It seems at least to me all devs try to give credit where it's due. Can't we all just get along?
PEACE BE WITH YOU!
WHats funny, is I have seen in TW threads, EDT members giving them certain help and vice versa. Just in the one krylon is working on I see JF giving help with certain scripts and krylon using them to adjust things to get them working. So why in the world would he be upset.
I usually supports TW and their roms but in this case I would have to go with EDT.
It just seems a little extreme to immediately report a thread and not be able to talk privately before public actions were taken.
In addition, obviously at one point TW posted the source, or at one point given it to EDT. Now, EDT used it in a rom and has given credit to TW/EB in their opening post, I failed to understand how this is constituted as Kanging.
irockstar661 said:
WHats funny, is I have seen in TW threads, EDT members giving them certain help and vice versa. Just in the one krylon is working on I see JF giving help with certain scripts and krylon using them to adjust things to get them working. So why in the world would he be upset.
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@the person who got the thread locked don't be a
Hypocrite!
THERE!
I SAID IT AGAIN!
now let's not start another flame-fest.
Let's undo the wrongs and move forward.
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
scrizz said:
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
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Exactly...there is so much potential that goes unrealized when these things happen.
scrizz said:
@the person who got the thread locked don't be a
Hypocrite!
THERE!
I SAID IT AGAIN!
now let's not start another flame-fest.
Let's undo the wrongs and move forward.
I thought the whole point of Android was to be able to collaborate etc..
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Its the truth....
I've seen Master help both TW/EDT, Ive seen the xboarder help with MUIU, I've seen EDT help TW, and TW help EDT. It's been great here recently, why ruin it now krylon? I followed you and your work closely and this will not effect that, but this was way out of line bro!
In fact. most of you KANG sammy! hahaha
i don't think any dev here will probably say i did all the work by myself i dont need help doing anything from anyone i built the kernel,rom,themed,etc... by myself. i even manufactured the phone and distributed it out of the trunk of my car this is totally mine.
Removed. Posted out of anger towards a certain dev.
Correct me if im wrong, but wasn't EDT a collaborator in the original build of the 2.2.1 kernel base that both TW and EDT are using? I don't see an issue here as they have just as much right to use the 2.2.1 kernel as any one else does.
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Ban me if you want, but Krylon, that was a punk ***** move..
I've never used anything of jellettes till rc3 of last night, I've only used team whiskey ****. Anyways, I don't think OP did anything wrong. I am ashamed to have anything krylon on my phone..
Op I support you 100%. Win this battle.... krylon you should be ashamed of yourself...
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That's the kind of fanboyism that we want to avoid in a thread like this one. Otherwise, this thread will just get closed like the 2.2.1 EDT thread (not because of fanboy issues).
PaiPiePia said:
That's the kind of fanboyism that we want to avoid in a thread like this one. Otherwise, this thread will just get closed like the 2.2.1 EDT thread (not because of fanboy issues).
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Apparently you didn't read my post.. It says ban me if you want. Meaning what was coming next is probably out of line. Didn't take a genius to figure that out lol...
P.s. Look up fan boy.lol I use krylon all the time, not jillette, but I'm sticking up for jillette... Lol @ fanboy.
Seriously people.... can we all just.... get along????
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Apparently you didn't read my post.. It says ban me if you want. Meaning what was coming next is probably out of line. Didn't take a genius to figure that out lol...
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No one care about you getting banned, I am more worried about the thread getting closed because of people like you.
All the devs I have spoken to are seriously cold but seriously smart dudes, and not one wants to accept a suggestion upfront, but most do incorporate it anyway
Here is salutes to all you guys who have written coded designed or virally reposted any of your work. You make my heart skip a beat <3
within a sentence, you've manage to put an insult, a praise and display of gratitude...
and what's that for? Seems like you're not happy - and yet don't want to display it purely....
Maybe if he/she has made use of punctuations correctly, we would understand his/her statemant much easier.
WTF is this thread about????
Devs rock, I love em. Its about them, this thread.
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within a sentence, you've manage to put an insult, a praise and display of gratitude...
and what's that for? Seems like you're not happy - and yet don't want to display it purely....
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Are you a dev?
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Maybe if he/she has made use of punctuations correctly, we would understand his/her statemant much easier.
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Punctuations are correct only.
zolah said:
WTF is this thread about????
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About devs
I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
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I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
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I think he says you guys snub him when he suggests something to you & later on end up using his pieces of wisdom without acknowledging him.
This thread is good
DamianGto said:
I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
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I for one know you have SERIOUS attitude problem. I hope you take it in the right sense.
Why don't you some out in the open & tell?
Favouriting this one...
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I love these threads. Awesome.
So let's see some names of attitudy devs -)
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WTF is this thread about????
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As this guy said ...
Its about Devs who live at a high altitude i think .
jje
This thread has Tigerblood!
Perhaps a warlock could help?
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Intratech said:
This thread has Tigerblood!
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Don't forget the Adonis DNA.
#XDADEVS #WINNING
reflux21 said:
Are you a dev?
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why? do you sense my cold attitude and yet smart rebuff on your sentence?
but no.. i am not a dev - at least not on XDA.
Ok guys group hug?
Some people are tribal some dance to their own tune. Damian has ruffled many a feather here it seems but so be it he has pride in his work and seems to be a perfectionist, he has his tribe or rather had until the ext2 tribe disbanded along with z4mod and oclf... And the ext4 have theirs.
We all have our personality quirks and the devs often disagree which is expected and healthy.
I think the biggest weakness is pride which can prevent people admitting mistakes and learning from people who may actually know more. Since I am a layman I have no idea who is guilty of this not knowing technical coding talk.
I have seen some comments from Damian which sure seemed a bit rude, maybe a language barrier? Where are from Damian how well can you speak English? Btw... anyway I have grown to understand him an he has integrity and talent... and a Hot head LOL!
And I used ext2 with an old Damian kernel with no problems. Seemed ok to me, curious I even forced my phone to crash and pulled the battery with no problems. He still uses it and many using his new kernel too ...
My greatest respect for being the most diplomatic and humble of all the devs goes out to supercurio. A while back he found a serious bug in universal lag fix kernel, his direct competition, and didn't act smug about it or arrogant. In fact he wrote a kernel to fix the corrupted data this caused. And the ulfk guys promptly rectified it with a thanks. We all make mistakes. Considering his professional level of talent and amazing work he could be arrogant, plus he is French! (Joke).
C'mon I hate to see the stereotype childish, *****y geek coming out so much.
Now Damian, prove to us all you don't have to much pride or passive/aggressive problems with other devs and use some of the work from others in your great kernel that we all want. If you believe the code is sloppy or not up to your standard so be it. You are clearly not afraid to say so, so put it in a separate kernel version with a warning if you like and silence your critics.
Ok...another group hug people
Stock JPY, Insanity SpeedMod OC-1200Mhz/UV, ext4, JVE gingerbread Modem,
Team Whiskey just announced the release of the next release after Bionix V 1.3.1, They're calling it Bionix Next Gen.
Figured everyone would be interested to know, as the 1.3.1 thread has about a million hits.
Head over to their forums at teamwhiskey.com to get their full instructions, otherwise just go to download here: sourceforge.net/projects/bionix-v/files/
This was already released a few months ago, but was in BETA and only for Donators, guess they released for everyone.
cheers!
Froyo? Not interested
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Froyo? Not interested
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I also wonder why they have stuck with 2.2 and only released one 2.2.1 that never got updated after the first day or so. Wonder what it is about the difference that they don't want to develop.
They ARE working on a GB rom, as heard..
Their probably releasing a 2.2 rom because.. well... people currently think their.. DEAD and they want people to know their still here, GB is probably hard as hell to work with.
their new rom NextGen was publicly released today on the TW forums. The OP is just slightly misinformed. IMO it seems to run better than v 1.3.1
Next Gen
1) based on Bionix 1.3.2 not 1.3.1
2) 1.3.1 ran like BUTTER< had damn near NO issues and was tough to improve on
3) Next Gen build was lead by a different group of devs that have contributed but not lead the charge
a) They have put together the BEST ROM the Team has done to date.
4) They are working on GB. With Samsung not hooking up some Vibrant GB source there are still holes, and we all know that the team is all about QUALITY!!!!!
5) Next Gen was a Beta for donators, because the doantor is the one most likely to give feedback on bugs (my guess).
Give it some love if you want. I have had NOTHING but great results. Battery, service, and GPS have been Phenomenal.....
If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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This isn't from viralblack or som, it's from a different group of aspiring devs associated with tw.
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s15274n said:
If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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If you go over to teamwhiskey.com then head to the forums or join their fan site on facebook they are alive and well...
I'm not 100% about WHAT exactly happened but I know they cut back on their XDA posts due to some...um...let's call them "miscommunications"
Team Whiskey has the best (most stable,fastest) roms I've found so far...great devs...
TW Rules!
s15274n said:
If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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You know they used to practically run these vibrant forums right? Sombionix would try to answer everyone's questions and be open with people. He ended up having the same problem that all of the greats had, and that's growing intolerant to whiny noobs that complained too much. I don't blame those guys for leaving and staying out of touch. It's not like they're obligated to us for anything. Long live Sombionix and his whole TW team. Imagine putting crazy long hours into a hobby, and once you were finished the people looking at your hard work criticize you and say it sucks even though they couldn't do any better. I don't know about you but it would drive me away too.
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You know they used to practically run these vibrant forums right? Sombionix would try to answer everyone's questions and be open with people. He ended up having the same problem that all of the greats had, and that's growing intolerant to whiny noobs that complained too much. I don't blame those guys for leaving and staying out of touch. It's not like they're obligated to us for anything. Long live Sombionix and his whole TW team. Imagine putting crazy long hours into a hobby, and once you were finished the people looking at your hard work criticize you and say it sucks even though they couldn't do any better. I don't know about you but it would drive me away too.
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I understand what you mean, but Team Whiskey should atleast talk to us a little or even a bit instead of AT ALL
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Nabeel10 said:
I understand what you mean, but Team Whiskey should atleast talk to us a little or even a bit instead of AT ALL
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the thing is, they still do. people just assume that if it isn't Som or Viral, then it's not TW. But the throne has been handed down, so to speak, to a new group.
Sigh, they said a while ago that they weren't going to release anything on XDA anymore. They grew tired of XDA so they decided to just post on their forums/website only. It's true that the Bionix developing has been handed down to someone else, Nopcodex90.
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Sigh, they said a while ago that they weren't going to release anything on XDA anymore. They grew tired of XDA so they decided to just post on their forums/website only. It's true that the Bionix developing has been handed down to someone else, Nopcodex90.
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and its an amazing rom!
is it 2.2.1 or 2.2 ? wow one another best rom to flash
Any idea why my battery drain fast... from 100%-73% in just 45mins. And im just browsing not even playing video.
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Ok, let me clear some smoke.
1. NextGen is still 2.2, based from the mysterious 1.3.2 build with some more tweaks by Nopcodex90
2. I'm not sure if Shorty, Alexia, or Nopcodex90 still gets on XDA, but i'm still here....but T.W. forums is where we mostly reside at now....Som, Viral, and Krylon are and will forever be the original founders of Team Whiskey..and with all the great, solid ROMs they put out...they deserve a break if they want one, and while they're taking a break...Shorty, Nopcodex90, grendel905, Alexia,creator2456, AlterBridge86, Allen, MacGyver, PezLee, }SkOrPn--', KidDynamite, along with myself is holding down the fort at the forums. We are a team....we are Team Whiskey, and we will never die.