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Today markes the day that Sony Ericsson Ends it partnership with Wm, I guess the Next smartphone the X2 Will either be for Symbian S60 or Google's Android OS. Welll the had a good run with windows mobile but now its over.
But Atleast We know that there will be/could be a PSP Phone coming.
Source plz.
I'm not surprised. SE was barely involved in SEX1 developement, x1 is HTC device excluded panels... And even panels... I don't know how much has been developed by SE
so, who cares basically? I purchased X1 'cause I need a qwerty small device... that's it
Here You Go!!
http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/009/05/sony_ericsson_to_dump_windows_mobile.htm
Thats true, Thats why i nvr Bought one. But its a little sad that no more inovative things for Wm like panals. But its okay tho.
The article is barely a reliable source to confirm that SE is ending partnership with Microsoft.
The rumor has been been going around since even before X1 was launched and if Ericsson is really off loading their shares to Sony, if i remember correctly Sony was always a big fan of Windows Mobile.
mkouk said:
The article is barely a reliable source to confirm that SE is ending partnership with Microsoft.
The rumor has been been going around since even before X1 was launched and if Ericsson is really off loading their shares to Sony, if i remember correctly Sony was always a big fan of Windows Mobile.
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Well this time it is most likely true because First there sales for the flagship X1 sucked, second There phones arent selling so there losing money, Third Wm is the MOST expensive OS out there, so there trying to cut cost and maybe save them self from Spliting up. There almost sdoing as bad as Motorola. And ya
I heard a rumour that it was the andriod phones that are likely to be reduced or stopped by companies like sony and a few others as it does not really hold its own market. i think people see it like symbian for normal phones and mw for business. android is like iphone but companies are thinking if u want something like iphone u would buy an iphone.
not saying the rumour is true as there is at the mo nothing to back it up but i hear that was what a lot of mobile phones companies were thinking
Ya, and i have use Symbian i Wm has just 2 things over it, 1 Its UI is very costumizable and Its great intergration with everything Windows. But symbian has Way better res 16 million colors, better Costumizablility Video ring and others, better more stable Wi-Fi connection, Faster too. So really X2 would be alot better on symbian even.
Rumors, nothing else. (it's a symbian "fan-page" )
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Rumors, nothing else. (it's a symbian "fan-page" )
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But It also says android, Also there saying what the head of Ericsson said so it couldn't be to far from The truth. But I think its true, Bad Pofits+Low selling Wm phones+ EXPENSIVE OS($99 each Vs $29 s60 vs Free android)=Bye Bye Window Phones, And For them to Truly have a High tech Phone and Feature packed the cant Us wm, cuz it doesn't support alot of things I.e OMINIA HD left Wm because it couldnt support half the things it has especially HD. But maybe Windows Phone 7 will change that.
workingman, your specific facts are all wrong, all your arguments are retarded and your source is just pure speculation of a dumb writer. go back to your homes citizens nothing interesting here.
THE GRIZZ said:
workingman, your specific facts are all wrong, all your arguments are retarded and your source is just pure speculation of a dumb writer. go back to your homes citizens nothing interesting here.
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"Go back to your home" What are you a racist. I bet you voted for McCain. Wow havent heard something like that for a while But hmmmm I dont know, maybe your right. Just because I work As a Firmware engineer For samsung in California i dont know anything right.... Sorry. I guess a person that most likely works a walmart knows more than me.
I also bought the X1 because it is just an amazing phone. Although I owned two SE-phones before the X1 I never thought that I HAVE to buy a SE-phone again... The X1 is a HTC device and I think it opened the HTC-window for many SE-users; I think the X1 is a better commercial success for HTC then for HTC, because SE will loose with the X2 at least all the users that don't like Android and Symbian (including me).
With the X1 I said in fact 'goodbye SE', 'hello HTC'
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"Go back to your home" What are you a racist. I bet you voted for McCain. Wow havent heard something like that for a while But hmmmm I dont know, maybe your right. Just because I work As a Firmware engineer For samsung in California i dont know anything right.... Sorry. I guess a person that most likely works a walmart knows more than me.
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label me whatever you like . that does not change the fact that you are spreading garbage based on a very dumb article writen by a symbian "freak" (pun intended) and a very retarded speculation from your part.
the recent development in software and some of the leaks about the x2 hardware (better keyboard, based on 6.5..etc) as mentioned in the other thread suggests that SE are committed to WM.
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I also bought the X1 because it is just an amazing phone. Although I owned two SE-phones before the X1 I never thought that I HAVE to buy a SE-phone again... The X1 is a HTC device and I think it opened the HTC-window for many SE-users; I think the X1 is a better commercial success for HTC then for HTC, because SE will loose with the X2 at least all the users that don't like Android and Symbian (including me).
With the X1 I said in fact 'goodbye SE', 'hello HTC'
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True, True, But ya. I think your right with that But another reason i like the X1 is because of the designe , Thats why i like most Phone, I mean teh OS is very important to me BUt if The feature List is Killer like The Upcoming Nokia n97(which i already pre-odered for $750). Its sooo advanced that i would give Up the best OS out there WM for a less advanced but still good S60. You gatta be open minded when it comes to OS's. I have owned and used all the Mobile Os. Android, Mac, S60, RIM, Wm, Palm and touch wiz, so i know what i am talking about when i say what i say. Now i am using the HTC HD because its super sexy, In 1 month ill be using the Nokia N97 because its sexier, Way more features, 32 GIGS of memory, 3.5 inch screen With 16:9 Res, NOW no Phone can top that. Can you name one, that has better features?
Oh well, windows mobile is actually a really good OS.
I have an iphone, blackberry bold, nokia n82, and my beloved Xperia X1i.
That being said, I've come to learn and know about almost every OS, of course there's Android which I probably will not experience.
I love Windows Mobile. Symbian is quite responsive, but simplistic.
The iphone's OS is also simple, beautiful, and good for gaming.
Blackberry's OS is mainly for eye candy and business, I couldn't really find many games on its platform.
Android, not too sure!
Heres a little proof That Sony ericsson is starting its move FROM WM http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-foxconn-sourced-android-phones-from-sony-er/
But also you could be right that the are not gonna completely Move. I can admit to my wrong, But im say theres a huge chance there gonna start to move away from WM
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-epic-quarterly-loss-adds-another-round-of-j/
Like this is the years flagship phone and guess what its a symbian OS phone UHHHH
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_idou-2683.php
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Oh well, windows mobile is actually a really good OS.
I have an iphone, blackberry bold, nokia n82, and my beloved Xperia X1i.
That being said, I've come to learn and know about almost every OS, of course there's Android which I probably will not experience.
I love Windows Mobile. Symbian is quite responsive, but simplistic.
The iphone's OS is also simple, beautiful, and good for gaming.
Blackberry's OS is mainly for eye candy and business, I couldn't really find many games on its platform.
Android, not too sure!
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Yes your Right.. I dont think anyone on this web site can say the have had a better OS(even me) but im just saying SE is loving Wm now. Did you know that the Have only made 1 Wm phone and the sales were BAD, All other smartphones have been Symbian(which i like because how it interhrates everything into its Ui(which cant be costumizedbut okay)
For example The P series, M series G series and W series.
your silly topic is now your signature. seriously dude, you have issues
-SE releasing android does not mean leaving WM. it just means they are experimenting with something new . SE said they were supporting android since LAST YEAR.
-your other links (idou and SE losing money) are pointless and irrelevant here
-whare the hell did you come up with the wm OS price and the very poor X1 sales numbers??!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry if it is off topic but a 4g blackberry tablet with a dual core processor what do you guys think
http://now.sprint.com/playbook/
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BlackBerry? That's unexpected.
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BlackBerry? That's unexpected.
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It's been known for a while now. Well, except Sprint officially carrying it. But um, who'd want a RIM product? iOS, Android, and WP7 are going to have the most support by both developers and community.
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It's been known for a while now. Well, except Sprint officially carrying it. But um, who'd want a RIM product? iOS, Android, and WP7 are going to have the most support by both developers and community.
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Yeah, I did some research and it was supposed to be WiFi only and/or allow tethering to an existing BB phone to power the tablet.
Smart of them to change their minds, they would not be able to compete without data. 4G can't hurt.
idk it is a blackberry and running their os. could be drama in the long end, but if the hardware is in there for 4g, that makes me believe that you could set it up as a phone with a dialer... could be a combo of old school meets new school.
a Blackberry tablet ...
... who was the fool at Sprint who green-lighted backing this hot mess? RIMs target audience and the typical tablets target audience aren't even close to the same focus groups ... a square peg/round hole failure. Has RIM ever competed in the home user space? Apple at least has worked in that arena, Google clouds absolutely everything, RIM does ... well ... email.
I predict failure here.
looks nice probably be nice for corporate email? I just do not want a tablet tied to contract and do not want some just no name tablet.
From what I hear there's no built in support for calendar or email - those features won't work unless tethered to a blackberry. The os is actually supposed to be pretty impressive though.
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The tablet looks well built..i hate blackberry os, but i would consider rocking this. I signed up for alerts.
Justin.G11 said:
a Blackberry tablet ...
... who was the fool at Sprint who green-lighted backing this hot mess? RIMs target audience and the typical tablets target audience aren't even close to the same focus groups ... a square peg/round hole failure. Has RIM ever competed in the home user space? Apple at least has worked in that arena, Google clouds absolutely everything, RIM does ... well ... email.
I predict failure here.
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To answer that question I'd have to say yes! I love that there is this huge envisioning by the tech world that BB is only used by businesses.
BB may not do nearly as much marketing and focus on non-business users, but I can say that 35-45% of my friends have a BB as their PERSONAL phone. Not because all of the "business" advantage, but because BB makes attractive, ergonomic, simple to use phones and people do buy them. Not to mention brand recognition, how many people do you know that wouldn't know what "blackberry" is?
Now ask that same person about "android" or "WP7"...
The re-written BB OS is actually pretty sleek looking IMO, so I wouldn't say it's a completely horrible idea for Sprint to take this on. Plus many of the businesses would certainly fall into the potential for stocking these up given their employees are all robots equipped with BBs...
Meh...
Just because it's not Google/Apple/Microsoft doesn't mean it won't be a success or that it's a "hot mess".
Les we forget that RIM was top of the mobile world for a long time.
mattykinsx said:
Meh...
Just because it's not Google/Apple/Microsoft doesn't mean it won't be a success or that it's a "hot mess".
Les we forget that RIM was top of the mobile world for a long time.
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RIM is a sinking ship. Of all the OS', BBOS is destined to have the least support from developers. Their SDK is also based on AIR/Flash, a dying platform if I ever seen one.
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RIM is a sinking ship. Of all the OS', BBOS is destined to have the least support from developers. Their SDK is also based on AIR/Flash, a dying platform if I ever seen one.
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I think with a nice breath of fresh air they can be a competitor again.
Having the user base, even though it is dwindling, definitely puts them in a good position still.
I think it's really silly to count anyone out at this point in any mobile business, ESPECIALLY tablets.
Per example, Android was practically NOTHING last year...
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Per example, Android was practically NOTHING last year...
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The difference is that Android was a startup that was growing from nothing. RIM is a dinosaur that is dying and making mistakes by frantically looking for solutions.
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The difference is that Android was a startup that was growing from nothing. RIM is a dinosaur that is dying and making mistakes by frantically looking for solutions.
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I can come up with 100 logical reasons why Android shouldn't be where it's at right now.
I think this tablet could help revive BB.
And I certainly don't think it's silly for Sprint to carry it.
With the lack of Sprint news from CES I was very surprised by this move.. Of all the tablets with that mobile focus mentioned a few months ago the PlayBook was the one I was most excited about. Unfortunately I doubt it will be a star by the time it releases as I've already seen a number of tablets from CES that would mop the floor with the PlayBook.
It'll be 4-6 months before we make another mover forward with a new halo handset IMO.
I would buy one of the blackberry tablets before I bought a crummy apple tablet... Apple is a joke and there os is even more of joke... But android on the other hand is far superior to any other tablet out there. If the android tablets didnt exist I would definitley buy a blackberry tablet though.
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Award Tour said:
The difference is that Android was a startup that was growing from nothing. RIM is a dinosaur that is dying and making mistakes by frantically looking for solutions.
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Apple was a dying dinosaur before Steve Jobs came back and then they came up with new computer designs and took off with the ibook, ipod, etc.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/nokia-ceo-stephen-elop-rallies-troops-in-brutally-honest-burnin/
so it appears that Nokia is no longer staying idle as their company loses huge margins in the cell phone arena. According to the above article there is a chance that they might join the android team!
IMO that would be awesome. Nokia "still imo" the best phone manufacturer out there. Faaaar superior to Motorola, HTC and Samsung combined. Their phones are always aesthetically pleasing and much more thought out than the *cough* dual screen phones coming.
While Motorola, Htc and samsung are decent phone manufacturers, I think if Nokia jumped ship then android would really be an unstoppable force.
EDIT
WE LOSE ):
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/exclusive-nokias-windows-phone-7-concept-revealed/
that is one sexy ass looking phone!
It could also be wp7 though. I believe one of their technology officers used to be a high up at microsoft before he went to work at nokia.
elegantai said:
It could also be wp7 though. I believe one of their technology officers used to be a high up at microsoft before he went to work at nokia.
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yeah I know... That would give wp7 a lot of leverage in the game since they came in late... I'm still hoping the at least get into the high end android game. I just love their phones soooo much. They do everything right except for the software.
Their 8mp cameras from 2 years ago are far superior to our 8 and 5mp's today...
If they do go android, even with part of their lineup, it would definitely push android over the top in os distribution! So that is who I am rooting for Don't they have some sort of shareholder conference or something this week?
I'd buy day one...best cameras, though their phones have been kind of ugly recently.
elegantai said:
If they do go android, even with part of their lineup, it would definitely push android over the top in os distribution! So that is who I am rooting for Don't they have some sort of shareholder conference or something this week?
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I'm not sure about that, but I know that the article I posted says that they will be talking about their new game plan February 11th. I'm assuming by then we may get a hint as if they will try and catalyze their own OS or jump on board with android/wp7...
The most recent nokia phone that I got to play with was the N8 and holy cow was that phone amazing. It was by far the most solid feeling phone that I ever held and the touch screen was superb. The software itself wasn't too shabby neither....
I really think that Nokia can utilize android to its fullest potential. The extent at which they polish their devices is remarkable.
a dual core nokia phone would be my dream come true.
I use to like nokia (minus the garbage battery locks), then they had to shut down all their factories in the us and move to china.
Screw them.
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they were great... over 10yrs ago...
but...
W7 needs help to get a jump start
nokia needs a huge savior...
looks like ...
microsoft will love to get an experienced mgfr to back them.
Nokia needs a new OS to plan thier future on...
both will most likely do anything to get love for the other....
match made in heaven!
but if they do get android.. that would be so great!!!
And they chose microsoft, go figure. lol
Ah bless. It should eventually produce some truly boring phones. Nokia should have gone android IMO? We will have to wait a long time for a Nokia Nexus N!
If that means they drop Meego, they can have a kick in the nuts from me!!!!
If not i forgive them
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If that means they drop Meego, they can have a kick in the nuts from me!!!!
If not i forgive them
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Symbian and meego are to be 'sidelined' according to BBC news so a swift kick to the nuts is in order. They putting all their chips on MS.....what an exciting partnership. I am sure apple are already living in fear
I don't get it.
I think Microsoft is a mistake, but if it works out it will benefit both sides.
It will be interesting to see what this will yield.
On another Note I see Meego can run Dalvik Turbo.
It seems to be something similar to Wine for linux, but for Android on Meego.
Basically you can run Android apps seamlessly on Meego.
I want to post link but I can't yet. So the Source is Linuxfordevices.com
Title is: "Dalvik ported to MeeGo, promising instant Android app compatibility"
With this development, I think they should have stuck to what they were doing, and made a deal with google to allow Android Market on their Meego Phones.
I understand there would be some sort of premium for them to do that, but damn that would be awesome, it might have killed android.
As much as I love Maemo for it's Multitasking capabilities, I don't like the provided Market on it. Not to mention Qt for Meego.
I hope they still release a Meego device.
Peace.
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This is going to be interesting
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This decision definitively benefits Microsoft more than Nokia. MSFT gets a great handset maker with international market. Nokia gets.... a new OS. I think Android would have definitively been a better choice.
I just think this partnership will produce some very dull devices that are locked down to the extreme. Now if they put some good Xbox functionality in a device.....that might be interesting.
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Ah bless. It should eventually produce some truly boring phones. Nokia should have gone android IMO? We will have to wait a long time for a Nokia Nexus N!
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Yeah after i saw the news this morning i was like
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-nokia-elop-idUSTRE71A2T820110211
Nokia may you rest in peace
1979 - 2011
AllGamer said:
Yeah after i saw the news this morning i was like
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-nokia-elop-idUSTRE71A2T820110211
Nokia may you rest in peace
1979 - 2011
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LOL I cannot pretend I will miss them while they rest in peace...its been a long time since I thought "Damn I wish I had that Nokia"
I disagree entirely (having come from an n900 to a Nexus s just one week ago).
I hope for great things on the Nokia experimental side, and will be rooting for Meego in any form factor..
Win Mobile looks OK, but it's not my kinda thing, i would rather Android/Meego/Maemo anyday!
Symbian was good in it's day, it's just a bit "old hat" ...it for me is hard to fathom how they could make that maemo device and then stick with symbian as a main platform, lost respect from me for that alone!
I hope to see them thrive though, even if i will not buy the win7 devices, ALL mobile companies (inc. google) could do with the kick up the arse that comes from competition, any competition, is good for us all i say!
nyway .. ramble over ....out with the meego allready!!
the only thing i want to see RIP, is fanboi's ...they suck (from apple or android, or any other brand)
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I just think this partnership will produce some very dull devices that are locked down to the extreme. Now if they put some good Xbox functionality in a device.....that might be interesting.
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I look at it this way:
When the iPhone was released it was absolutely, bar-none the best, easiest-to-use, most powerful smartphone on the market. It offered a device that anyone could jump into and use without much of a learning curve and as a result it gained a huge amount of market share. When the G1 launched it brought open-source and entirely different UI that allowed users to truly customize their phone experience. It took Google a bit longer but then started to take away from Apple's dominance. Now we have WP7 and I ask myself, what new or interesting features does it bring? You can't copy and paste, you can't customize it, you can't even add storage and the UI is basic and bland. I guess its sort of cool that it has the XBox live support, but that would only be a cool feature to XBox owners and I sold my XBox to get a PS3 because I was tired of paying Microsoft just to watch Netflix which I was already paying to watch. Besides, what is WP7 except Kin with a little more power? And I'm sure I don't need to explain how that worked out.
So to continue my line of thinking, Nokia made the wrong choice. I've seen no real sales figures on WP7 and I know one person who owns one and he happens to work for Microsoft. Actually, my sister's boyfriend who also works for Microsoft owns a Droid X so not even all their employees believe in the platform. Nokia is continuing its history of hitching itself to a wagon with a broken wheel. I was looking forward to Nokia Android devices but I won't lose any sleep over the loss and I won't lose any when they announce bankruptcy in a few months or years.
even the iPhones needs to accommodate the competition now
News: Apple Is Said to Work on Cheaper, Smaller IPhones
Nokia would have been way better off with Android
To us not in the Nokia boardroom it does seem a strange partnership. I mean we could all have told them that apple is king for most 'casual' phone users with android gaining general recognition and acceptance to. MS windows I really don't think will generate any excitement among the masses. Kev is right....what will they bring to the party? I guess accountants in crisp suits may be attracted to a windows device but would many under 25's be interested in MS office for mobile 2011?
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To us not in the Nokia boardroom it does seem a strange partnership. I mean we could all have told them that apple is king for most 'casual' phone users with android gaining general recognition and acceptance to. MS windows I really don't think will generate any excitement among the masses. Kev is right....what will they bring to the party? I guess accountants in crisp suits may be attracted to a windows device but would many under 25's be interested in MS office for mobile 2011?
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Lol agreed but my name is Ken not Kevin kenvan is my first and last name pushed together hehe
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Nokia's CEO(?) isn't going to eat his own words and use Android. That isn't the world we live in. Although I'm curious to see what they can bring to the table. I remember Nokia used to bring out some awesome phones, but now it's just either Android phones or Apple's iPhone that gets everyones attention.
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Nokia's CEO(?) isn't going to eat his own words and use Android. That isn't the world we live in. Although I'm curious to see what they can bring to the table. I remember Nokia used to bring out some awesome phones, but now it's just either Android phones or Apple's iPhone that gets everyones attention.
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But they have a new CEO who isn't the one who made the Android is like pissing yourself to stay warm comment. And you can't just say its just Android phones, because as a result of Android, the playing field has been leveled. People get excited over Motorola phones the same as LG or HTC or Samsung or any other brand.
I am glad Nokia picked Microsoft.
Really, this is the best outcome for us, Android users.
Why?
Because this will trigger more competition, which will result more innovation from Google Android and Apple iOS (major players on smartphone. No RIM is not )
Believe me, you should be thankful to Nokia and Microsoft.
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I am glad Nokia picked Microsoft.
Really, this is the best outcome for us, Android users.
Why?
Because this will trigger more competition, which will result more innovation from Google Android and Apple iOS (major players on smartphone. No RIM is not )
Believe me, you should be thankful to Nokia and Microsoft.
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I don't think Microsoft is much competition to either iOS or Android and I don't think either side sees them as such. Their market share, last I saw, was pathetic at best. I would prefer there was more hardware competition than software and another manufacturer pushing out high end hardware would have been just that.
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I don't think Microsoft is much competition to either iOS or Android and I don't think either side sees them as such. Their market share, last I saw, was pathetic at best. I would prefer there was more hardware competition than software and another manufacturer pushing out high end hardware would have been just that.
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exactly, i was really hoping to see some Nokia with Android love, but the moment they selected Microsoft... all hopes were gone.
I used to be a big Nokia fan, they always had the best hardware.
My apologies Ken I typed in haste. It certainly seems that poor Nokia has not inspired much enthusiasm. I am pleased not to own any Nokia shares...MS wont suffer half as much IF this strategy fails.
I know, wrong forum. I'll get no sympathizers here.....regardless, I toast Steve Jobs and his amazing accomplishments in this industry.
As much as I love Android, and wouldn't go back after 3 years of IPhoneness for most of the same reasons/frustrations most of you wouldn't, I don't subscribe to the
I hate Jobs/Apple, type childishness.
Credit where credits due.
Control freak or not, he's THE pioneer in developing an elegant OS that still hasn't been matched, and pushing this technology to the masses..
Cheers Steve. Good luck.
This is of course going to be objected to with venomous fervor....specially since our Samsungs presently under 'attack' lol. Could care less.
Won't be responding.
Just wanted to get this out there.
Agreed, like it or not, he was one of the visionaries that made all of this possible, cheers!
he is not CEO anymore of Apple
Agreed he was the one
Don't really have a problem with Jobs, but I don't think there's anything wrong with those that 'hate' apple or Jobs. Not childish at all to be put off by someone/company/something.
Of coursee, all to a certain extent.
A lot of things that a company does can put off a lot of people, and that's certainly valid, and most certainly not "childish" as you put it.
Granted a lot of people on the internet are childish. Still doesn't invalidate other people's opinions.
Yeah cheers alright... Thank God for Steve and his hate for Flash. Otherwise I'd probably be using an iCrap instead of my S2!
Darth Wader is gone but the Empire is still there.
Except he has good jobs about fonts, none other... That I appriciate. He sucked people for devices that does not worth half for YEARS, just with false advertising and such. It is same with very early macs till today. Yeah it is business but hey, you can't go to otherside with money you know...
And about your Elegant OS, http://www.neowin.net/news/os-x-lion-fails-to-check-passwords-if-authenticating-via-ldap (and again, back to false advertising about elegancy and being cool and all)
Sorry but I hated him since Amiga vs. Mac days, so he can go to hell, see if I care...
Steve Jobs will always be remembered for taking a company from the brink of bankruptcy to one of the most powerful in the world. The iPod and iPhone have forever changed the landscape for media and mobile devices. If it wasn't for him/Apple I'd probably still be using a crackberry. While it's not been explicitly stated, it's a shame that health issues have forced him to step away.
Time to hang up the polo neck (turtle neck to some)
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You gotta admire the halo effect that the Apple marketing team created with regards to Apple products
Cheers Steve
Cheers to Steve Jobs for bringing revolutionary ideas and products to the world i have had all the iphones and loved them all! Thanks and Cheers Mr. Jobs
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No matter what anyone says, the truth is if there were no iPhone, there would be no Android. We'd probably still be using XDA's with resistive screen and stylus.
So a big thank you to Steve Jobs for being a trail blazer. I wish him all the happiness in the world in his retirement.
I totally agree with the OP. As much as we fight with Apple products, they're still good products regardless and Steve Jobs started it all off with the iPod then progressed to the likes of an iPad. He's only stepping down and he's acting as a Chairman now. It must be difficult to be a CEO of one of the richest companies out there.
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No matter what anyone says, the truth is if there were no iPhone, there would be no Android. We'd probably still be using XDA's with resistive screen and stylus.
So a big thank you to Steve Jobs for being a trail blazer. I wish him all the happiness in the world in his retirement.
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Well it should matter what people say because you're badly informed, Android started in 2003, and was bought by google in 2005, the iphone was first displayed in jan 2007
First capacitative screen was the lg prada
I remember having the Nokia N95 when the very first iphone came out.. it had a 5mp camera, int camera for videocalls, supported wifi streaming of music/vids etc.. apple only had these features with the iphone4 in 2010! (any my nokia supported flash!)
Jobs may be prolific, and he certainly has left his mark on the tech world, but the real geniuses at apple are the guys in marketing who make an ordinary product (which is lagging the latest tech in many aspects) seem extraordinary
Jobs is an ass, anyone who knows anything about Apples history knows this. It always irritates me when people hate on Bill Gates so much when he runs the world s largest charitable organization (The Gates Foundation) and has pledged (via the Giving Pledge) to give away the majority of his personal wealth, along with a number of other high profile Billionaires. Has Jobs? Has he hell, hes more interested in getting more money for his crappy devices and stealing IP. Even Baron Hilton is on the Giving Pledge list!
All my respect!
Apple and Job did nothing new, they merely took existing technologies and concepts, as viva.fidel described, and made them better. Can't knock Apple for that, they did a good job, but it's a bit rich them trying to sue others for copying their ideas...
Without Mr. Jobs, 90 % of the industry will be the same Nokia industry for much more years, all we have now is thanks to mr Jobs. Thanks for pushing to the limit all the other companies.
viva.fidel said:
Well it should matter what people say because you're badly informed, Android started in 2003, and was bought by google in 2005, the iphone was first displayed in jan 2007
First capacitative screen was the lg prada
I remember having the Nokia N95 when the very first iphone came out.. it had a 5mp camera, int camera for videocalls, supported wifi streaming of music/vids etc.. apple only had these features with the iphone4 in 2010! (any my nokia supported flash!)
Jobs may be prolific, and he certainly has left his mark on the tech world, but the real geniuses at apple are the guys in marketing who make an ordinary product (which is lagging the latest tech in many aspects) seem extraordinary
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Let's get some fact straights. The first Android device, the HTC G1, was released October 22, 2008. So for those doing the math that's a year after the first iPhone was released and several months after the 2nd gen iPhone. Those Google guys were real trailblazers
I do agree though that back in the day Nokia made some great devices. I remember when the E71 came out. Unfortunately, Nokia like Blackberry are heading into the toilet. We all chose the Android platform for different reasons but because of the iPhone Android was forced to step up their game in order to stay competitive.
As a person, I feel for him for his health, and wish him all the best.
As for apple and all their innovations, they simply take "Water" and re-brand it "I-Clear" and everyone buys it.
He is a magician for selling water to fishes, but at the end of the day, they simply take failing fads such as video calling, re-branding it Face Time and sheep buy into it. Very clever.
The new voice control software rumoured to be in the next Iphone, will probably be called Voice Time, and suddenly everyone will be out and about shouting at their phones to "Call John!! Call John!!" and then followed by "I said Call John! Not call Joan!!". Still people will say Apple invented it, and that it's great.
As for Mac's and Mac OS, Ugly, slow software. Sure it might not crash.. apparently, but still hate it.
Anyway as I said, he is a very clever man for pulling wool over people's eyes, so I say get well soon!