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me im weighing my options tbh.
it's either going to be a moment...which i currently have a offer on
moment2
N1 if it EVER comes to sprint!
or maybe the next gen webos phone?
im not buying the evo as most are, im not fond of the design, too bulky IMO.
I'm going for the Evo. I was also concerned about the size, so I went to a T-Mobile store and scoped out the HD2. The size wasn't as bad as I'd feared.
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EVO !!!
no looking back
hero for now. maybe evo at the end of the year. ( my bday present ) etc.. whatever it is is will be android on sprint thats for sure..
whatever it is it'll have a hard keyboard, be on Sprint, and run Android.
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I've already brought my Palm Pre out of retirement and the last five updates that it received while I was away (yes, five!, and a phone that is actually supported and receives updates was surprising to me too) have really made it shine. It's a completely different phone. The high-performance 3D games rock, the web browser kills the one in the Hero, and the whole experience just feels better designed, more natural, and far more professional overall.
WebOS kicks major ass and with HP backing it and "doubling down" on the operating system I think that it has an enormous amount of potential, especially with updated hardware. So my next phone is definitely going to run WebOS. I'm tired of this fragmented Android nonsense and manufacturers who don't stand behind their products at all.
The WebOS homebrew community is utterly amazing as well. They actually publish the source code for their modifications and work together under one project:
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page
Palm also supports them wholeheartedly. You don't have to root your phone, you simply enter the Konami code (literally by typing upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart--a badass easter egg) and it gives you full developer mode access to the device. Palm also publishes the source code that they modify (including the Pre's Linux kernel) under the GPL. They do this automatically without their customers having to stage a formal Twitter protest and waiting four months like HTC made us do last time:
http://opensource.palm.com/
To all my fellow Hero owners, best of luck with your abandoned handset. To those of you who decide to stay with Android, best of luck with your future abandoned handset.
Now that I know Fixxer isn't getting one, I'm going with the Evo.
@Sawawa good luck with your abandoned company (Palm). Whatever talent hasn't already quit will likely be muted by HP.
Maybe I have low expectations, but I only expect a cellphone to last me 6 months - 1 year. The Hero has done that already and still has plenty of life left in it. Whichever Ebayer gets mine will be lucky.
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Now that I know Fixxer isn't getting one, I'm going with the Evo.
@Sawawa good luck with your abandoned company (Palm). Whatever talent hasn't already quit will likely be muted by HP.
Maybe I have low expectations, but I only expect a cellphone to last me 6 months - 1 year. The Hero has done that already and still has plenty of life left in it. Whichever Ebayer gets mine will be lucky.
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Only one person has quit, and his position was obviated by the HP acquisition. The other executive, the Director of Carrier Marketing, was quite clearly fired for failing to properly market the device, but was allowed to leave gracefully to save face. No one else has left. They believed in the company enough to stick with it while things were dire, I doubt many of them are now suddenly eager to leave with the future looking so bright. HP didn't just spend 1.2 billion to watch the asset that they purchased languish and die.
Whatever. I'd rather be on a platform with some upside. The situation with Android is deteriorating, not getting better. If Google really releases Android 2.2 at their upcoming IO Conference in a few weeks (as is widely expected) can you imagine what kind of clusterfuck that will be?
1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2 = LOL
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Only one person has quit, and his position was obviated by the HP acquisition. The other executive, the Director of Carrier Marketing, was quite clearly fired for failing to properly market the device, but was allowed to leave gracefully to save face. No one else has left. They believed in the company enough to stick with it while things were dire, I doubt many of them are now suddenly eager to leave with the future looking so bright. HP didn't just spend 1.2 billion to watch the asset that they purchased languish and die.
Whatever. I'd rather be on a platform with some upside. The situation with Android is deteriorating, not getting better. If Google really releases Android 2.2 at their upcoming IO Conference in a few weeks (as is widely expected) can you imagine what kind of clusterfuck that will be?
1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2 = LOL
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HP killed the Ipaq (PDA), HP also killed the Voodoo brand after they bought it in 2006, so I wouldn't put it past them to squander an asset. I think competition drives better results, so I hope HP can keep Palm together.
I also fail to see Android segregation as hurting anyone. Apps that don't work on different versions aren't available in Market by design. Someone running 1.5 who is upset they don't have Latitude without buying a new phone doesn't qualify as a clusterfuck.
Old phones become obsolete, despite the platform. Check out the Iphone 4.0 software, only the 3gs and the new Iphone are actually going to utilize the majority of the new features available.
I'm at a crossroad and totally not sure what phone will be my next. i have to say that I want an EVO really bad but at the same time, I want a phone that will have prompt future support. My current thinking is that HTC (devices other than Nexus) does not fit that bill. So, at this point, I'm leaning toward the Nexus.
EVO
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Now that I know Fixxer isn't getting one, I'm going with the Evo.
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haha, whats with you? jesus man let **** go.
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haha, whats with you? jesus man let **** go.
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What are you talking about?
The first morestown powered android phone.
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if a fixed nexus one comes to sprint this summer I'll buy it. I'm not a fan of the size of the evo. I'm thinking I can hold out for android 2.2 devices if necessary.
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The first morestown powered android phone.
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I have high hopes for this also. Maybe it will be my Evo replacement... I wonder how long until we will see production handsets?
troyboytn said:
I'm at a crossroad and totally not sure what phone will be my next. i have to say that I want an EVO really bad but at the same time, I want a phone that will have prompt future support. My current thinking is that HTC (devices other than Nexus) does not fit that bill. So, at this point, I'm leaning toward the Nexus.
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My thoughts exactly. I have a bad taste from what happened with 2.1 on the hero. I don't wan to re-live that with the evo. I think the nexus one would be my next choice also.
I have a pre also and will most likely sell it but if hp makes a super phone in the near future, I will probably go back to webos. I like webos but it is just not growing at a rapid pace and with all the stability issues with the company. The phones not selling for as much as it used to on ebay. I am gonna get out so I don't lose too much money.
Evo and XDA Devs, FTW! Sure hope toast and Flipz get one too.
I'm not eligible to upgrade till who-knows-when, so there will most likely be some exciting phones out by then lol. While I do love Android, I am also a little anxious to see what Blackberry OS 6 (and by then some new hardware) brings to the table. Regardless of OS, I'm fairly certain my next phone is going to have a physical keyboard.
Evo all the way. Since I wasn't thinking when I made my XDA user, I'll have to change it to EvoMeng
Hey guys-
Please bare with me here . I recently purchased an almost brand new T-mobile HTC HD2 from a person on Craiglist for 300 bucks. Well it turned out that the phone the person sold me was defective, i.e. a hardware malfunction of somekind , and because T-mobile thought I had bought it through them online, they said it was covered under the "Buyer's Remorse" period. So because of this I sent the one I had originally bought back to T-Mobile for a replacement, and they are sending me a brand new one in the box with all the accesories, factory sealed. But, since I had a chance to play around with winmo 6.5, and HTC Sense, I hate them both. So my question is, because I'm getting a brand new HTC HD2, should I return this one in exchange for a refund and buy something like a nexus one? Or should I stick with this phone? Or...should I exchange the HD2 for something else on T-mobile's network? Any advice would be appreciated. Btw, I payed 300 for the original hd2 I bought, but T-Mo is sending me one worth $450, so it's like there paying me 150 bucks, and they didn't even ask for a proof of purchase, lmao. Kinda cool that's all.
-regards, Bobofosho123
I had the HTC HD and ended up not liking it at all, I really wanted to but just hated everything about it in the end with the exception of the camara. I ended up trading my HD with someone on CL for a T-Mobile 3G Slide and I LOVE it! Im originally coming from an iPhone which I loved but got tired of Crapple and not having 3G speed and this slide is turning out to be even better than my iPhone. It sells for almost the same price as the HD. Just thought i would tell you that and maybe you can send your HD back (if you dont like it) and see if they will give you a slide.
Yeah, thanks for the response. And to he honest, to go from a high-end phone like the HD2 down to a mid-range phone like the slide seems like a ripoff to me. If it's possible, I may return the HD2 to T-Mobile and ask for a check or cash back, if that's possible, and just buy a Nexus One or an ipad (maybe).
get the tmobile samsung vibrant due out july 21. 1ghz cpu, 4" super amoled screen. android phone
ryan562 said:
get the tmobile samsung vibrant due out july 21. 1ghz cpu, 4" super amoled screen. android phone
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i would say check out the android port for the HD2, but it isnt anywhere near completion and who knows how long it could be.
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i would say check out the android port for the HD2, but it isnt anywhere near completion and who knows how long it could be.
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The android port will probably never work like an android phone... it probably won't be good enough to use full-time instead of winmo for at least a year... so if you want android, get an android phone.
The guys here at xda are doing a fabulous job porting Android to the HD2. I've been reading their progress stream and a year to complete is ridiculous. These guys are making leaps and bounds. Recently they put Ubuntu Linux "successfully" on the HD2. No phone functions but what a triumph! Not going to be long for the full port. I'll keep my HD2 just in anticipation of their success. Thanks again developers for all your long hours and hard work. It's much appreciated.
and by the way, Microsoft is losing the battle against Android and will continue doing so. Microsoft's business plan is skewed. Get the product out by the deadline...even if it isn't finished. (Windows 95, 98, 98Se, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista...)The mobile 6.5 is the SSDD. It is PLAGUED with problems. I should know, I have one. Sorry for the soapbox everyone.
Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
The things is the HD2 just seems sleeker and more refined to me personally, sure the Vibrant may have the Android OS but I'll wait to get Android on my HD2.
Just my 2 cents.
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Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
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the samsung vibrant looks to be a good phone. if you've been reading some of the reviews on it you will find out that it has a better/dedicated GPU for gaming and graphics then our own hd2, nexus one, droid, iphone 3gs. its hummingbird processor is also considered to run faster/smoother than our own 1ghz snapdragon processor as well. on top of that, it's super amoled screen rivals that of the iphone 4 and performs better in sunlight then typical amoleds and offers better battery life.
you make the call. i may purchase the vibrant out of contract while keeping my hd2. good to have the best of both worlds for me. i also forgot to mention that you also have to worry about gingerbread and froyo updates via OTA from t-mobile. much easier to get them on an android-ready phone like the vibrant. samsung is going to release this phone on all major carriers so updates are on the horizon. (this is for those who think that samsung won't push for updates as they haven't had in the past)
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If it's possible, I may return the HD2 to T-Mobile and ask for a check or cash back, if that's possible, and just buy a Nexus One or an ipad (maybe).
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This sounds like a really bad idea. Ever hear the phrase, "Take the money and run" Take the HD2 and sell it on ebay, then go buy what ever you want. If you have no receipt and your not listed as the owner on the account you may get screwed. What if this guy got the phone on a payment plan? What if he got the contract deal and they won't issue the refund and won't send you your phone once they discover the error. Just think about it a bit and count your blessings because this whole thing could of gone a whole other direction.
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The guys here at xda are doing a fabulous job porting Android to the HD2. I've been reading their progress stream and a year to complete is ridiculous. These guys are making leaps and bounds. Recently they put Ubuntu Linux "successfully" on the HD2. No phone functions but what a triumph! Not going to be long for the full port. I'll keep my HD2 just in anticipation of their success. Thanks again developers for all your long hours and hard work. It's much appreciated.
and by the way, Microsoft is losing the battle against Android and will continue doing so. Microsoft's business plan is skewed. Get the product out by the deadline...even if it isn't finished. (Windows 95, 98, 98Se, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista...)The mobile 6.5 is the SSDD. It is PLAGUED with problems. I should know, I have one. Sorry for the soapbox everyone.
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Yes, they are making great progress... but there will probably never be a full "completed" port.... it will probably never run like an android phone. It's ridiculous to think it will. Have you used any of the other android ports for winmo phones? Some have been developed for years... and development went just as quick for some of them... and they are still a long way from being complete or "fully" functional. It will be awesome to have winmo, which I consider the best and most customizable mobile os, on my hd2 most of the time and be able to boot into android to use specific apps or play around with when I want. It will be somewhat functional in the next couple months (probably missing camera, and a few other things, and will probably be a battery drain... but usable)... but it will not be as functional as an android phone and probably not functional enough to want to use full-time on the hd2 instead of winmo for probably a year or so. Like I said... do some research... look at the development history of the other ports.
I also disagree about what you say about winmo... I've used it since 2003. I've also used android for a couple years.... Winmo is just as stable, and much more customizable and functional than android is at this point. I admit.. its not as user friendly... and it takes time and knowledge to set it up to use it's functionality. Android is quickly catching up as it's constantly being developed, and android was designed from the beginning to be a phone os. WinMo was designed to be a stand alone pocket pc os, and phone functionality has been added since the convergence of pocket pcs and phones... so the phone functions of it can be a little awkward or not implemented efficiently. But if you're looking for pc functionality, winmo blows android out of the water.
Don't get me wrong... I love android too... and can't wait for the hd2 port to be developed more... but be realistic with your expectations. There's plenty of past times this has been done to know what to expect with it if you do some reading. Android on the HD2 will be great... that's another great thing about winmo phones... they usually get android ported at some point. But if you want to use android full-time, its best to get an android phone. If you can't stand winmo, don't keep the HD2 expecting a perfect android port that runs like an android phone.
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the samsung vibrant looks to be a good phone. if you've been reading some of the reviews on it you will find out that it has a better/dedicated GPU for gaming and graphics then our own hd2, nexus one, droid, iphone 3gs. its hummingbird processor is also considered to run faster/smoother than our own 1ghz snapdragon processor as well. on top of that, it's super amoled screen rivals that of the iphone 4 and performs better in sunlight then typical amoleds and offers better battery life.
you make the call. i may purchase the vibrant out of contract while keeping my hd2. good to have the best of both worlds for me. i also forgot to mention that you also have to worry about gingerbread and froyo updates via OTA from t-mobile. much easier to get them on an android-ready phone like the vibrant. samsung is going to release this phone on all major carriers so updates are on the horizon. (this is for those who think that samsung won't push for updates as they haven't had in the past)
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Yeah man, I'm watching some reviews on the vibrant now and it definitely looks like the phone for me, and I can deal with .3 inches less screen size, as compared to the HD2. Not to mention, the vibrant seems to have a better screen than the HD2 anyway. And to think I only paid 300 bucks for my HD2 on Craigslist originally, lmao!!!! I'm certainly going to get one hell of a trade here, woot woot !!!!
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Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
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You got to remember, when i first saw it on tmobile website, the Vibrant was in the list and it was sold for $350 bucks. And that was like 4 or 5 in the morning. I got really stoked because i thought tmobile watned to surprise anyone by releasing galaxy s. But turned out, it think it was their mistake for putting up the price tag. Anyway, my point is, no matter how good Vibrant could be, the hardware quality does not come any near my HD2. No matter how some people hate this device, they must admit it is the highest quality device out there. Vibrant has plastic back, no flash and 4in screen is a joke compared to 4.3 And heard it was light which doesn't feel expensive. Anyway, i'm waiting for even bigger one HD3. I know it is a rumor, but HD2 was a ridiculous rumor, but hey, i'm holding one right now.
Eric Schmidt's words concerning why the Nexus One was created and how we dont need number Two.
Initially, Google felt that they needed to build a device to help Android along so they worked with HTC to create the Nexus One handset. Schmidt says: “The idea a year and a half ago was to do the Nexus One to try to move the phone platform hardware business forward. It clearly did. It was so successful, we didn't have to do a second one. We would view that as positive but people criticised us heavily for that. I called up the board and said: 'Ok, it worked. Congratulations - we're stopping'. We like that flexibility, we think that flexibility is characteristic of nimbleness at our scale."
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Heh, google is the inverse of apple
...I would like a Nexus Two though?
What about a 1280x720 4" IPS screen, sub-10mm thickness, aluminum/carbon fiber construction, HDMI port, front-facing camera, Tegra 2 SoC, battery life that is amazing, and capacitive touch buttons that are actually silk screened right?
And of course, a unicorn detector
oh well, there's the answer to that. now we all just wait for the next developer phone, whoever google decides to use. let's hope HTC again or maybe motorola.
i would like to see SE get into the game and develop a phone that is 100% backed up by Google. they make good phones.
I thought the title was a joke. lol
Wow, damage control ahoy.
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i would like to see SE get into the game and develop a phone that is 100% backed up by Google. they make good phones.
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+1 on this. SE really dropped the ball when they attacked the smartphone market. The W series phones were cutting edge in terms of being music centric. The K series were really good too, my K750i has the best 2 megapixel sensor of any camera. The K850i was a real stormer of a phone too.
I don't know what happened in SE HQ when they moved onto touchscreen phones and the like. They were ahead of the curve back in the day but maybe their UI let them down?
Samsung are another company who made good hardware but ****ed it up with their clunky software.
I'm not sure how these guys turn the ship around but HTC came from nowhere and are one of the biggest mobile phone manufacturers about now. Surely SE and Samsung can make a cracking phone again and win some of the market share back.
Another issue might be locking down access to root or bastardising Android with a clunky shell. HTC avoided that with a pretty nice UI in Sense.
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Heh, google is the inverse of apple
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That's why I love em.
Knew it and have been saying it all along.
The Nexus One was never supposed to outsell any other phone or become an income source for Google. It was meant to drive the Android OS and the hardware platform and as Schmitty says, it "clearly worked".
Android market share has rocketed and continues to do so and even today, 7 months later from intro, new Android phones are STILL catching up to the specs of the Nexus One.
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+1 on this. SE really dropped the ball when they attacked the smartphone market. The W series phones were cutting edge in terms of being music centric. The K series were really good too, my K750i has the best 2 megapixel sensor of any camera. The K850i was a real stormer of a phone too.
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I don't know about you, but that's what I dislike about SE. Why couldn't they just combine the best walkman and camera in one phone? Instead, they made two phones out of almost the same hardware and charge a high price for each of them...
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oh well, there's the answer to that. now we all just wait for the next developer phone, whoever google decides to use. let's hope HTC again or maybe motorola.
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Hey Roger, do you mean the next developer phone that's not under a carriers control and gets updates ota directly from Google?
I guess I am kinda confused since I assumed Google is never gonna dip their hand in the smartphone market again besides supplying android.
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The Nexus One was never supposed to outsell any other phone or become an income source for Google. It was meant to drive the Android OS and the hardware platform and as Schmitty says, it "clearly worked".
Android market share has rocketed and continues to do so and even today, 7 months later from intro, new Android phones are STILL catching up to the specs of the Nexus One.
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Amen!
I love the N1, and can't wait for a future device done the same way (without any branding). I seriously hope HTC is the manufacturer. Can't see myself using a phone not made by them.
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Hey Roger, do you mean the next developer phone that's not under a carriers control and gets updates ota directly from Google?
I guess I am kinda confused since I assumed Google is never gonna dip their hand in the smartphone market again besides supplying android.
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Since android's beginning, there has always been Google's developer phone, the one that Google uses to write the android OS on. First was the g1, now its nexus. It will always be a vanilla android version, not HTC sense or MOTOblur or whatever. Perhaps the next one will be sold thru a carrier, but I think they will ensure it can be purchased unlocked too. We don't know, this is new territory, and The nexus kinda set the standard. So I'm anticipating Google will make sure the next phone can be had without the carrier influence as well.
I actually don't think there should be a Nexus 2 from Google. They should just stick to what they do best and make great software. I don't think selling physical products is their thing and the Nexus One has served it's purpose of demonstrating the potential of Android.
Hopefully the plan is to dramatically improve the UI with Gingerbread and convince manufacturers like HTC and Motorola to run vanilla Android. They can release new versions of Android and leave it up to the manufacturers to deliver the updates.
I'm done with SE, myself. I followed them for a little while with a P990i, then Xperia X1 and was going to get an X10... but glad I got a Nexus One instead.
High-priced pieces of trash, they are. I know the X1 was HTC built and rebranded, but WinMo was so laggy on it and SE slapped an $800 price tag on it. Enough to wake you up.
So there won't be a N1 successor ??
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I actually don't think there should be a Nexus 2 from Google. They should just stick to what they do best and make great software. I don't think selling physical products is their thing and the Nexus One has served it's purpose of demonstrating the potential of Android.
Hopefully the plan is to dramatically improve the UI with Gingerbread and convince manufacturers like HTC and Motorola to run vanilla Android. They can release new versions of Android and leave it up to the manufacturers to deliver the updates.
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Sure is nice having Google dictate what goes on the phone and not T-Mobile or AT&T or whoever. I think I'd opt for a slightly weaker phone over one with Sense UI and branding all over it.
I guess I'll be buying whichever dev phone is popular at the time, or making damn sure the phone has Cyanogen et al behind it and that it is vanilla.
No N2?!? Oh come on! It's not like they have to do much. Just make it a 4" screen, swap in a better 3D co-processor, slap a real keyboard on it and call it a day. I'd buy that off-contract any day!
I would agree that the N1 put android on the map, at the centre. They have multiple partners now SPAMMING rediculously good phones for android, the consumers know about it and WANT it, theyve done their task. Let them get back to making the OS orgasmic, and let HTC etc make phones that can vibrate
Like a guy said eariler this is whats called damage control. The N1 didn't start anything with Android OS, it was the Droid that did that. The N1 is a tiny blip on the radar of Android sales. The N1 failed and this is an arrogant look at the N1. The fact of the matter is HTC was planning 1ghz phones regardless of the N1 existance or not, remeber that phone list that was leaked last year of all the phones coming out this year? I love my N1 but lets face it google dropped the ball on it.
1. restrictions on the subdizing
2. restrictions on the type of plan
3. No dummy phones for TMO stores
IMO if they would have stuck the N1 in stores made it easy like Droid, Samsung Vibrant, and EVO, then N1 at the time would have been a mega hit. It was the first phone (that I can remember) with a ghz processor ppl would have went nuts for it because of the speed and its a really sexy looking phone.
Ah bless. It should eventually produce some truly boring phones. Nokia should have gone android IMO? We will have to wait a long time for a Nokia Nexus N!
If that means they drop Meego, they can have a kick in the nuts from me!!!!
If not i forgive them
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If that means they drop Meego, they can have a kick in the nuts from me!!!!
If not i forgive them
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Symbian and meego are to be 'sidelined' according to BBC news so a swift kick to the nuts is in order. They putting all their chips on MS.....what an exciting partnership. I am sure apple are already living in fear
I don't get it.
I think Microsoft is a mistake, but if it works out it will benefit both sides.
It will be interesting to see what this will yield.
On another Note I see Meego can run Dalvik Turbo.
It seems to be something similar to Wine for linux, but for Android on Meego.
Basically you can run Android apps seamlessly on Meego.
I want to post link but I can't yet. So the Source is Linuxfordevices.com
Title is: "Dalvik ported to MeeGo, promising instant Android app compatibility"
With this development, I think they should have stuck to what they were doing, and made a deal with google to allow Android Market on their Meego Phones.
I understand there would be some sort of premium for them to do that, but damn that would be awesome, it might have killed android.
As much as I love Maemo for it's Multitasking capabilities, I don't like the provided Market on it. Not to mention Qt for Meego.
I hope they still release a Meego device.
Peace.
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This is going to be interesting
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This decision definitively benefits Microsoft more than Nokia. MSFT gets a great handset maker with international market. Nokia gets.... a new OS. I think Android would have definitively been a better choice.
I just think this partnership will produce some very dull devices that are locked down to the extreme. Now if they put some good Xbox functionality in a device.....that might be interesting.
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Ah bless. It should eventually produce some truly boring phones. Nokia should have gone android IMO? We will have to wait a long time for a Nokia Nexus N!
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Yeah after i saw the news this morning i was like
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-nokia-elop-idUSTRE71A2T820110211
Nokia may you rest in peace
1979 - 2011
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Yeah after i saw the news this morning i was like
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-nokia-elop-idUSTRE71A2T820110211
Nokia may you rest in peace
1979 - 2011
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LOL I cannot pretend I will miss them while they rest in peace...its been a long time since I thought "Damn I wish I had that Nokia"
I disagree entirely (having come from an n900 to a Nexus s just one week ago).
I hope for great things on the Nokia experimental side, and will be rooting for Meego in any form factor..
Win Mobile looks OK, but it's not my kinda thing, i would rather Android/Meego/Maemo anyday!
Symbian was good in it's day, it's just a bit "old hat" ...it for me is hard to fathom how they could make that maemo device and then stick with symbian as a main platform, lost respect from me for that alone!
I hope to see them thrive though, even if i will not buy the win7 devices, ALL mobile companies (inc. google) could do with the kick up the arse that comes from competition, any competition, is good for us all i say!
nyway .. ramble over ....out with the meego allready!!
the only thing i want to see RIP, is fanboi's ...they suck (from apple or android, or any other brand)
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I just think this partnership will produce some very dull devices that are locked down to the extreme. Now if they put some good Xbox functionality in a device.....that might be interesting.
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I look at it this way:
When the iPhone was released it was absolutely, bar-none the best, easiest-to-use, most powerful smartphone on the market. It offered a device that anyone could jump into and use without much of a learning curve and as a result it gained a huge amount of market share. When the G1 launched it brought open-source and entirely different UI that allowed users to truly customize their phone experience. It took Google a bit longer but then started to take away from Apple's dominance. Now we have WP7 and I ask myself, what new or interesting features does it bring? You can't copy and paste, you can't customize it, you can't even add storage and the UI is basic and bland. I guess its sort of cool that it has the XBox live support, but that would only be a cool feature to XBox owners and I sold my XBox to get a PS3 because I was tired of paying Microsoft just to watch Netflix which I was already paying to watch. Besides, what is WP7 except Kin with a little more power? And I'm sure I don't need to explain how that worked out.
So to continue my line of thinking, Nokia made the wrong choice. I've seen no real sales figures on WP7 and I know one person who owns one and he happens to work for Microsoft. Actually, my sister's boyfriend who also works for Microsoft owns a Droid X so not even all their employees believe in the platform. Nokia is continuing its history of hitching itself to a wagon with a broken wheel. I was looking forward to Nokia Android devices but I won't lose any sleep over the loss and I won't lose any when they announce bankruptcy in a few months or years.
even the iPhones needs to accommodate the competition now
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Nokia would have been way better off with Android
To us not in the Nokia boardroom it does seem a strange partnership. I mean we could all have told them that apple is king for most 'casual' phone users with android gaining general recognition and acceptance to. MS windows I really don't think will generate any excitement among the masses. Kev is right....what will they bring to the party? I guess accountants in crisp suits may be attracted to a windows device but would many under 25's be interested in MS office for mobile 2011?
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To us not in the Nokia boardroom it does seem a strange partnership. I mean we could all have told them that apple is king for most 'casual' phone users with android gaining general recognition and acceptance to. MS windows I really don't think will generate any excitement among the masses. Kev is right....what will they bring to the party? I guess accountants in crisp suits may be attracted to a windows device but would many under 25's be interested in MS office for mobile 2011?
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Lol agreed but my name is Ken not Kevin kenvan is my first and last name pushed together hehe
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Nokia's CEO(?) isn't going to eat his own words and use Android. That isn't the world we live in. Although I'm curious to see what they can bring to the table. I remember Nokia used to bring out some awesome phones, but now it's just either Android phones or Apple's iPhone that gets everyones attention.
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Nokia's CEO(?) isn't going to eat his own words and use Android. That isn't the world we live in. Although I'm curious to see what they can bring to the table. I remember Nokia used to bring out some awesome phones, but now it's just either Android phones or Apple's iPhone that gets everyones attention.
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But they have a new CEO who isn't the one who made the Android is like pissing yourself to stay warm comment. And you can't just say its just Android phones, because as a result of Android, the playing field has been leveled. People get excited over Motorola phones the same as LG or HTC or Samsung or any other brand.
I am glad Nokia picked Microsoft.
Really, this is the best outcome for us, Android users.
Why?
Because this will trigger more competition, which will result more innovation from Google Android and Apple iOS (major players on smartphone. No RIM is not )
Believe me, you should be thankful to Nokia and Microsoft.
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I am glad Nokia picked Microsoft.
Really, this is the best outcome for us, Android users.
Why?
Because this will trigger more competition, which will result more innovation from Google Android and Apple iOS (major players on smartphone. No RIM is not )
Believe me, you should be thankful to Nokia and Microsoft.
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I don't think Microsoft is much competition to either iOS or Android and I don't think either side sees them as such. Their market share, last I saw, was pathetic at best. I would prefer there was more hardware competition than software and another manufacturer pushing out high end hardware would have been just that.
kenvan19 said:
I don't think Microsoft is much competition to either iOS or Android and I don't think either side sees them as such. Their market share, last I saw, was pathetic at best. I would prefer there was more hardware competition than software and another manufacturer pushing out high end hardware would have been just that.
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exactly, i was really hoping to see some Nokia with Android love, but the moment they selected Microsoft... all hopes were gone.
I used to be a big Nokia fan, they always had the best hardware.
My apologies Ken I typed in haste. It certainly seems that poor Nokia has not inspired much enthusiasm. I am pleased not to own any Nokia shares...MS wont suffer half as much IF this strategy fails.
Stopped by AT&T to see what Samsung, Sony, and HTC devices they had--mostly a waste of time. That said, I ended up checking out the Lumia 900. One very sexy piece of hardware in white. Very unfortunate for them that they decided to hop on the Windows Phone bandwagon because that lack of customization is something I could never enjoy. Extremely clean interface, but not my cup of tea.
Not sure why such curses must be upon us. The Samsung Galaxy SII (and likely SIII?) only on AT&T when many use Verizon, so few of the beautiful Xperia devices available for consumption, and great hardware going to waste on Windows devices when Moto saddles us with pain upon pain via locked bootloaders.
As to the original, I guess it's perhaps related to the heavy ties Nokia had with Cingular before that keeps them loyal to AT&T and not Verizon still. Ah well, first world problems aren't all that bad in the end.
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Stopped by AT&T to see what Samsung, Sony, and HTC devices they had--mostly a waste of time. That said, I ended up checking out the Lumia 900. One very sexy piece of hardware in white. Very unfortunate for them that they decided to hop on the Windows Phone bandwagon because that lack of customization is something I could never enjoy. Extremely clean interface, but not my cup of tea.
Not sure why such curses must be upon us. The Samsung Galaxy SII (and likely SIII?) only on AT&T when many use Verizon, so few of the beautiful Xperia devices available for consumption, and great hardware going to waste on Windows devices when Moto saddles us with pain upon pain via locked bootloaders.
As to the original, I guess it's perhaps related to the heavy ties Nokia had with Cingular before that keeps them loyal to AT&T and not Verizon still. Ah well, first world problems aren't all that bad in the end.
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I'm definitely an Android guy. I love the customization. I tried an iPhone 4S for a while coming from an Epic 4G Touch (now back on an Epic 4G Touch), and it was alright for a month, but even with a jailbreak the staleness got to me. Also the fact that EVERYONE has one.
I stopped by an AT&T store yesterday for ****s and giggles. The Lumia 900 was nice, but I didn't like the raised glass. The Titan II is what felt nice and solid in my hands. The curved glass on the front felt really nice, and unlike the Lumia 900 the capacitive buttons light up. The Lumia 900 definitely wins for screen quality (AMOLED screen) but the Titan II wins for solidness and camera (the actual quality, I'm not talking about megapixels). The Titan II's test shots came out more vivid and natural looking (no tint) compared to the Lumia 900 if you check various sites.
WP7 is actually really, really smooth. The only things I don't like are:
- No MicroSD expansion with only 16GB of space (at least not without physically opening up the phone. I'm not sure if the Titan II uses one internally but the Lumia 900 definitely doesn't).
- Little customization; I get that it's supposed to be a clean design, but after a while it gets boring.
- Limited app selection
- Zune software is pretty much iTunes for Windows Phone 7
The hardware is always nice though.
the only reason that verizon didn't pick up the gs2 is because they already had a few samsung phones coming out at the same exact time, including the nexus. They didn't want to have 3 or 4 handsets launching at the same time from the same manufacturer, as it would likely confuse some consumers. Not to mention, when you ask the guy getting paid very little, what the difference is between the phones...and realistically there isn't much of one, then whats the point of having it? Just to say you got a gs2 on verizon?
Also, gs2 is not exclusive to att, as sprint has it, the epic 4g touch is the gs2 variant for sprint. Also, the galaxy note was exclusive for a little bit, to att, but now sprint will be getting it as well.
As far as wp7...I've messed with it some, but I personally didn't like it. I think that ms is following apples opporations platform to a T. Saying only certain hardware can be used, and they all have to have certain specs. It can be good or bad. Good, in the sense that apps should be easier to design, and run solidly. Bad, as, well, why even have more than one manufacturer making the things if they all have to be the same anyways?
The lack of customization is one issue, the second, and probably most glaring, is that they waited WAY to long to get into the mobile OS game...they had a steep hill to climb, and its only getting steeper.
Zune store IS itunes for wp7, no way around it. It looks a little different, but otherwise it runs the same way.
The good thing about wp7 is that there is more choices for the consumer. There is nothing wrong with that, and there are some people who really like wp7, and there is nothing wrong with that. Personally, I'm an android guy through and through, and I'll probably stick with it...definitely wont be switching to apples bland offering, and WP7 just doesn't appeal to me a whole lot.
I'm sorry to say that the general population thinks of Android like a piece of crap. Like what Windows 98 is now lol. Of course thats completely wrong, but thats just what the average consumer thinks, and is certainly what I thought before I got my Note.
I think WP7 is really gaining momentum as it is easy to use, looks hecka cool (for the first couple of months, will expand on that more), and is a nice change for iPhone users. I had a Windows Phone for a year and finally couldn't stand the lack of customization. When I bought it though I thought it looked really cool and I think a lot of people have the same idea.
Since people don't like Android as much, maybe Nokia wants to go for a different, more profitable market. I sure would if I were them, and I think they made a good choice using WP7.
I agree with you completely though when you say it would be better on Android.
Thats just my 2 centz.
I think windows seven will be amazing once it has been refined. The concept is a good one and it is a refreshing change from usual android/iOS.
That's what happens when a company known as the biggest phone seller sits on it's glory and forget to catch on with change. Nokia was too proud to jump the android bandwagon. Windows phone might turn out as a good alternative, but it's too new for it yet.
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Nokia should have stuck with Symbian Belle for low-end handsets and developing markets and MeeGo Harmattan for their mid- to high-end smartphones.
Choosing Windows Phail 7 was just baffling.
Many customers will buy a WP7 for XBL and belive it or not, some of them think that WP7 can run apps designed for PC!
I really dig the WP7 design... I'm running Windows 8 on my laptop which has similar design features. I'd love to be able to flash Windows Phone onto my G2, to try it out but alas, such is not to be.
Topic title should be: 'Nokia is being riden by the wrong horse.'
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I'd have only chosen Nokia if it had Android with it....recently I chosen a new smartphone without even looking at Nokia....just because it was giving Windows.....
I think we shall see what happens in the future but I think you should not ever put you eggs to one basket and you should have plan c available. Already now it is difficult for companies to differentiate your phone from other Android phones.
Nokia should be interested in the benefit of their own company, not Microsoft's. If they wanted to sell, they should have launched Android and WP handsets with similar or equal specs and went off to see which one sold off better. And then, only then should they have supported one OS, if they cannot afford to support both.
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