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Now that JI6 is everyones norm. can I still use one click root and one click lag fix.
My scores are down from 2200 to the 800s.
Should I wait for these to be updated?
Well, OCLF works just fine, the only issue is that you will lose your vibrate until Ryan gets it fixed. He is actively working on it. However, JI6 is plenty fast enough, especially if you are using a custom rom such as Bionix. Whatever Samsung did in the latest update really has the phone moving.
Voodoo? OCLF? Other?
I just updated to JI6 via KIES mini and I'm ready for a lag fix. Which one will work best with JI6?
None. Seriously, just try it without one for awhile. You will be surprised.
But to answer your question, Voodoo would be best if your NAND supports it. I say that because OCLF v2.1+ breaks the vibration on our Vibrants right now until they fix it. I have never personally used Voodoo because of my NAND. I have used OCLF and loved it.
Lag? Wtf are you talking about?
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I had OCLF before JI6. It worked fine. Just wondering if one worked better than the other with JI6 or if there were any problems with either.
What vibration does OCLF break?
None. The lag hacky hack v1 is unreliable
What's a NAND?
It breaks all vibration on the phone. Calls, pressing buttons, notifications. Any and everything that requires your phone to move.
So I had a choice, do I want the lag fix or do I want my phone to vibrate? I chose having my phone vibrate and uninstalled it until they get it fixed.
What I am saying is that in JI6, Samsung did something that REALLY helps with the lag. They did not change from the RFS system but whatever they did, the phone does not lag as much as JFD. Before I couldn't even wake my phone up without the screen freezing for a few seconds. Imagine how embarassing that is when trying to show your friends you new toy lol. But now, everything opens fast and it just flies.
So yea... try it without the lag fix for awhile and see how you like it. Otherwise, if your NAND supports it, go with Voodoo, if not OCLF. OCLF v2.1+ breaks the vibrate but v1 does not. v1 is less secure though which is why I didn't want to use it. If you don't care about the vibrate, then go with v2.1+
yea but doesn't Voodoo mess with your color? I don't want that. I also wanted the convenience of rooting it while I was at it. Just to be able to use the wireless tether app and "shoot me"(screen capture app)
There is a version of Voodoo that does not include the "Color Fix."
Check this thread for the versions with and without color fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791478
m4r10 said:
Voodoo? OCLF? Other?
I just updated to JI6 via KIES mini and I'm ready for a lag fix. Which one will work best with JI6?
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I'm running Bionix 1.8, which is derived from JI6. I'm currently running the Voodoo kernel, but I've had Voodoo disabled for most of the day after flashing the Youtube/VideoPlayer patch...
I've found no real difference in perceivable lag between having a lagfix and not having one. I've generally found this to be the case since I've been playing around with JIx based builds. There is a sizable difference in Quadrant score, but as I don't sit around staring at horizontal bar charts all day I've become underwhelmed by this phenomenon.
Try running without one long enough to get a feel of things. You'll find periodic every so tiny instances of lag no matter what you do (lagfix or not) in my experience. In either case it's WAY better than JFD...
masterotaku said:
I'm running Bionix 1.8, which is derived from JI6. I'm currently running the Voodoo kernel, but I've had Voodoo disabled for most of the day after flashing the Youtube/VideoPlayer patch...
I've found no real difference in perceivable lag between having a lagfix and not having one. I've generally found this to be the case since I've been playing around with JIx based builds. There is a sizable difference in Quadrant score, but as I don't sit around staring at horizontal bar charts all day I've become underwhelmed by this phenomenon.
Try running without one long enough to get a feel of things. You'll find periodic every so tiny instances of lag no matter what you do (lagfix or not) in my experience. In either case it's WAY better than JFD...
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I've used Ryanza's ext2 lag fix for awhile (about a month) until Voodoo released their lag fix. Then I decided to use Bionix's rom with the Voodoo lag fix.
Compared to stock, any lag fix will be noticeable. Compared to Bionix's roms, it's much harder to notice.
There's only 2 programs I use everyday that I noticeable any perceivable difference. Aldiko and Touchdown. The voodoo lag fix definitely makes a difference for me. Outside those 2 programs, you'd be hard pressed to find any noticeable differences with a Bionix rom.
does the OCLF only break vibration if u have the JI6 update? cuz i dont have the JI6 update yet and OCLF 2.1+ didnt break my vibration...or did i just get lucky?
Maverick777 said:
I've used Ryanza's ext2 lag fix for awhile (about a month) until Voodoo released their lag fix. Then I decided to use Bionix's rom with the Voodoo lag fix.
Compared to stock, any lag fix will be noticeable. Compared to Bionix's roms, it's much harder to notice.
There's only 2 programs I use everyday that I noticeable any perceivable difference. Aldiko and Touchdown. The voodoo lag fix definitely makes a difference for me. Outside those 2 programs, you'd be hard pressed to find any noticeable differences with a Bionix rom.
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Yeah.....Just as an aside though, I found no level of worrisome lag with JI6 stock either. At least not a level that a lag fix made a noticeable difference in. I don't use either Aldiko or Touchdown though.
As Samsung's firmwares have improved it's likely going to be a personal preference thing going forward, depending on whatever apps people are using. I generally try to stick to the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" on my gadgets, so I'll probably not be lag fixing anymore unless I hit a brick wall about it with some new awesomesauce app...
I use K9 to sync multiple email accounts and there isn't any major horrible lag going on when it polls in a totally new account or when it gets new email.
Seriously -- if you're having FC's and horrible lag you should consider starting out fresh or reupdating if you haven't.
thegendler said:
does the OCLF only break vibration if u have the JI6 update? cuz i dont have the JI6 update yet and OCLF 2.1+ didnt break my vibration...or did i just get lucky?
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Only on JI6.
kangxi said:
None. Seriously, just try it without one for awhile. You will be surprised.
But to answer your question, Voodoo would be best if your NAND supports it. I say that because OCLF v2.1+ breaks the vibration on our Vibrants right now until they fix it. I have never personally used Voodoo because of my NAND. I have used OCLF and loved it.
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OCLF v2.2+ IS OUT MAYBE VIBRATION FIXED?
is this your first day here? lag - the difference in time between initiating an action and receiving a response.
trunkstar1 said:
What's a NAND?
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j56bp said:
OCLF v2.2+ IS OUT MAYBE VIBRATION FIXED?
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Confirmed, it is fixed.
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I'm installing it right now. I;ll see how it goes.
With all the new lagfix trial-and-error, my SGS is still lagging and not error free. I'm about to get rid of it, unless there's another solution to fix the Lag. Why did Samsung come up with this expensive unit, that runs slower than my HD2 running Android?
Stock 2.2 have been very smooth for me compared to the stock 2.1 ROM I am using. Ive found that the OCLF has been pretty good for me on 2.1, although does need a reboot every 250 hours or so.
change your twlauncher30.apk to a more compact one?
compuse said:
change your twlauncher30.apk to a more compact one?
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which one would you recommend? i tried ADW and Launcher Pro and still experiencing laggy, especially when typing and looking up files. Any other inferior launchers would not look nice and defeats the purpose of having a "Samsung Galaxy S"
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Stock 2.2 have been very smooth for me compared to the stock 2.1 ROM I am using. Ive found that the OCLF has been pretty good for me on 2.1, although does need a reboot every 250 hours or so.
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Thanks, but I have been using stock 2.2 as well. I tried OCLF, VooDoo and SpeedMOD and screwed up my SGS many times. Luckily, I was able to bring it back to life again.
UPDATE: I was able to flash XXJPA ROM via Kies using the 1.6 patch and installed Z4root & OCLF 2.2 and my Quadrant score is 1600+ on first run and 1900+ on second run. Hip Hip Hooray! will test it out for the next couple of days to see if it keeps up the speed.
Thank you
Hello all, I updated my SGS to froyo DXJPA via kies about two weeks ago, and my overall impression is that this release is buggier than eclair.
After the update process was completed I did a factory reset, but still out feels buggy and clunkish. Apps FCed randomly, happened most of the time to twidroyd and gmail, the gallery does that too but not as often. Launcher pro's 3D app drawer does not run as smooth, and occasionally installed apps icons doesn't show up in the drawer.
I wonder, does these happen to anybody else? Is there any solution to these? Would you mind sharing your experience here? Thanks!
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Can I recommend darkys 4.1 rom? Seems most stable right now. Its not fastest like ultimate rom but its pretty dang stable
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Really? More stable than stock? Interesting..thanks for the info! I'll take a look. Would prefer to stay stock for a while longer though :-/
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nobody else having these problems? it's just my SGS then? really?
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Hello all, I updated my SGS to froyo DXJPA via kies about two weeks ago, and my overall impression is that this release is buggier than eclair.
After the update process was completed I did a factory reset, but still out feels buggy and clunkish. Apps FCed randomly, happened most of the time to twidroyd and gmail, the gallery does that too but not as often. Launcher pro's 3D app drawer does not run as smooth, and occasionally installed apps icons doesn't show up in the drawer.
I wonder, does these happen to anybody else? Is there any solution to these? Would you mind sharing your experience here? Thanks!
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I assumed you were on a stock DX series ROM before the upgrade? I also upgraded DXJPA, but I did it via odin with repartitioning. While I agree that DXJPA is much more laggy compared to Eclair, I do not have any issues with apps FC-ing. My phone is also a lot faster and smoother after flashing to the kernel in my signature and applying the lagfix.
Seifer1975,
How do you find the battery life with your kernel?
Thanks!
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Seifer1975,
How do you find the battery life with your kernel?
Thanks!
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Battery life is quite bad actually. I lose on average 2-4% battery per hour, without doing anything. But some people have reported very good battery life with the kernel, so I am not sure if it's due to that. But the speed is really good, and since I charge my phone all the time, it doesn't really bothers me so much.
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I assumed you were on a stock DX series ROM before the upgrade? I also upgraded DXJPA, but I did it via odin with repartitioning. While I agree that DXJPA is much more laggy compared to Eclair, I do not have any issues with apps FC-ing. My phone is also a lot faster and smoother after flashing to the kernel in my signature and applying the lagfix.
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yep, from DXJG4 to DXJPA. hmm.. perhaps I should try flashing via Odin.. do you use any lagfix by any chance? just read your signature
side note: your avatar's freaking me out man
To the OP,
I've upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 DXJPA and have not been having FC's (using 16 Gb stock Galaxy S and upgraded through Kies). I did install OCLF 2 and am using lag fix and the mem tool very early on. Been testing for stability by not installing too much but pretty am using as is now. Am also using Launcher Pro.
FYI, I was getting FC's before on 2.1 but I think this was because was starting to lag again. Anyway, all good now.
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You need to do factory reset to get rid off those FCs. Or, you can try to clear app data first. It works for me.
Edit: be sure to back up your data/rom first.
i`m just upgraded Eclair DXJG4 to DXJPA just a week...i`ve not seen any trouble on it and of course i`m upgrading it using Kies...the most dangerous way..
no problem about FC...maybe because i wiped all of my data after update...
before this i`m using OCLF but now i`m flashed my kernel using YA-OK! 1.40 @1.2ghz from zenkinz with stock DXJPA rom
To those, like me, who were disappointed with Froyo.
After doing a fair bit a tinkering and research experimenting for a month. I managed to find the BEST solution for people who don't want to use custom roms. Yet wanting a similar yet better mobile experience they had with 2.1 eclair.
After a factory reset.
Latest Voodoo Lagfix via Odin |or| ryanZA's OneClickLagFix your choice
1. root - z4root app from market.
2. ryanZA's OCLF app
- Alter minfree. Set to Aggressive
- Change Scheduler. Set to deadline
3. SGSTools.
- Upgrade stock apps.
+ Modded Contacts app showing all letters
+ Stock browser with useragent setting
+ Faster TouchWizLauncher(GTG) <--- TOUCHWIZ CAN't GET ANY SNAPPIER >
- GPS fix
Just like (2.1 with OLCF) Fast, snappy, loving it
u forgot to add:
+ use is for two weeks then redo the process
Best is to reboot everyday.
We don't have the same definition of "Stock"...
Anyway, I'm using jk4 now, realy stock (no root,no lagfix) and it's fast and fluid. What more do I need?? Higher benchmark? That's about the only reason I'd do a lag fix...!
Doing all of the above = might as well install Doc's ROMs
t1mman said:
We don't have the same definition of "Stock"...
Anyway, I'm using jk4 now, realy stock (no root,no lagfix) and it's fast and fluid. What more do I need?? Higher benchmark? That's about the only reason I'd do a lag fix...!
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hi t1mman, is JK4 Froyo 2.2 or Eclair? mine is running JPA now and it's way too sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow and i'm ready to downgrade. thanks
traiviet said:
hi t1mman, is JK4 Froyo 2.2 or Eclair? mine is running JPA now and it's way too sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow and i'm ready to downgrade. thanks
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it's Froyo
Can you point me to GPS fix please ?
teryz said:
Can you point me to GPS fix please ?
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It's in the menu of SGSTools.
Before going modding, try some optimized kernels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856151
dk206 said:
To those, like me, who were disappointed with Froyo.
After doing a fair bit a tinkering and research experimenting for a month. I managed to find the BEST solution for people who don't want to use custom roms. Yet wanting a similar yet better mobile experience they had with 2.1 eclair.
After a factory reset.
Latest Voodoo Lagfix via Odin |or| ryanZA's OneClickLagFix your choice
1. root - z4root app from market.
2. ryanZA's OCLF app
- Alter minfree. Set to Aggressive
- Change Scheduler. Set to deadline
3. SGSTools.
- Upgrade stock apps.
+ Modded Contacts app showing all letters
+ Stock browser with useragent setting
+ Faster TouchWizLauncher(GTG) <--- TOUCHWIZ CAN't GET ANY SNAPPIER >
- GPS fix
Just like (2.1 with OLCF) Fast, snappy, loving it
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Unfortunately for me, I cant apply these settings even after reboot. I followed all teh procedure and it is still the same.
i changed the lounger to the modded one but it gave me a lot of forced closes. ..(not apps the lounger just force closed) so i had to fire my terminal thing up and change it back
kind of sad because it looked great and was butter smooth
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gbohm said:
i changed the lounger to the modded one but it gave me a lot of forced closes. ..(not apps the lounger just force closed) so i had to fire my terminal thing up and change it back
kind of sad because it looked great and was butter smooth
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or you can just go to settings -> applications -> manage applications -> ALL tab and find the launcher, force close and clear settings. For any applications you get force close on. it fixes
With hardcore's latest kernel everything is just as snappy as it should be for me I'm happy with the overall performance of the device, no hang up or major lag so far...
PaulForde said:
With hardcore's latest kernel everything is just as snappy as it should be for me I'm happy with the overall performance of the device, no hang up or major lag so far...
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you forgot to add something, hardcore's latest kernel improved GPS. i am able to lock up to 11 sat within 10 secs.
If your going to change the kernel, root, lagfix, gpsfix it ... why not just try for a custom ROM?
I do think we have different notions of the word "stock"
This isny "stock" at all... A good custom ROM like Doc's are more "stock" than this thing... Doc's stock!
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How can it still be considered stock after applying all these tweaks??
A stock and fast SGS with Froyo is like the Loch Ness monster. It's a myth.
Tnx!
About the GPX Fix, does it only support North American and european countries?
And can I do other items in SGS tools like 3d Gallery etc.
@all
I Think what he's trying to say is having a faster SGS without flashing it with other ROM's...just like me, I'm still not in the state of flashing it because I'm still afraid: Man this phone is too expensive and I don't want to mess with it yet. Maybe a year later
nYbEe said:
Tnx!
About the GPX Fix, does it only support North American and european countries?
And can I do other items in SGS tools like 3d Gallery etc.
@all
I Think what he's trying to say is having a faster SGS without flashing it with other ROM's...just like me, I'm still not in the state of flashing it because I'm still afraid: Man this phone is too expensive and I don't want to mess with it yet. Maybe a year later
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Yes. The gallery fix in the sgs tools also fixes the battery drain bug which is caused by the sensor in the stock froyo's gallery app.
And yes this is for poeple who are not wanting to flash custom roms yet wanting the same stable fast performance.
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