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Voodoo? OCLF? Other?
I just updated to JI6 via KIES mini and I'm ready for a lag fix. Which one will work best with JI6?
None. Seriously, just try it without one for awhile. You will be surprised.
But to answer your question, Voodoo would be best if your NAND supports it. I say that because OCLF v2.1+ breaks the vibration on our Vibrants right now until they fix it. I have never personally used Voodoo because of my NAND. I have used OCLF and loved it.
Lag? Wtf are you talking about?
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I had OCLF before JI6. It worked fine. Just wondering if one worked better than the other with JI6 or if there were any problems with either.
What vibration does OCLF break?
None. The lag hacky hack v1 is unreliable
What's a NAND?
It breaks all vibration on the phone. Calls, pressing buttons, notifications. Any and everything that requires your phone to move.
So I had a choice, do I want the lag fix or do I want my phone to vibrate? I chose having my phone vibrate and uninstalled it until they get it fixed.
What I am saying is that in JI6, Samsung did something that REALLY helps with the lag. They did not change from the RFS system but whatever they did, the phone does not lag as much as JFD. Before I couldn't even wake my phone up without the screen freezing for a few seconds. Imagine how embarassing that is when trying to show your friends you new toy lol. But now, everything opens fast and it just flies.
So yea... try it without the lag fix for awhile and see how you like it. Otherwise, if your NAND supports it, go with Voodoo, if not OCLF. OCLF v2.1+ breaks the vibrate but v1 does not. v1 is less secure though which is why I didn't want to use it. If you don't care about the vibrate, then go with v2.1+
yea but doesn't Voodoo mess with your color? I don't want that. I also wanted the convenience of rooting it while I was at it. Just to be able to use the wireless tether app and "shoot me"(screen capture app)
There is a version of Voodoo that does not include the "Color Fix."
Check this thread for the versions with and without color fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791478
m4r10 said:
Voodoo? OCLF? Other?
I just updated to JI6 via KIES mini and I'm ready for a lag fix. Which one will work best with JI6?
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I'm running Bionix 1.8, which is derived from JI6. I'm currently running the Voodoo kernel, but I've had Voodoo disabled for most of the day after flashing the Youtube/VideoPlayer patch...
I've found no real difference in perceivable lag between having a lagfix and not having one. I've generally found this to be the case since I've been playing around with JIx based builds. There is a sizable difference in Quadrant score, but as I don't sit around staring at horizontal bar charts all day I've become underwhelmed by this phenomenon.
Try running without one long enough to get a feel of things. You'll find periodic every so tiny instances of lag no matter what you do (lagfix or not) in my experience. In either case it's WAY better than JFD...
masterotaku said:
I'm running Bionix 1.8, which is derived from JI6. I'm currently running the Voodoo kernel, but I've had Voodoo disabled for most of the day after flashing the Youtube/VideoPlayer patch...
I've found no real difference in perceivable lag between having a lagfix and not having one. I've generally found this to be the case since I've been playing around with JIx based builds. There is a sizable difference in Quadrant score, but as I don't sit around staring at horizontal bar charts all day I've become underwhelmed by this phenomenon.
Try running without one long enough to get a feel of things. You'll find periodic every so tiny instances of lag no matter what you do (lagfix or not) in my experience. In either case it's WAY better than JFD...
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I've used Ryanza's ext2 lag fix for awhile (about a month) until Voodoo released their lag fix. Then I decided to use Bionix's rom with the Voodoo lag fix.
Compared to stock, any lag fix will be noticeable. Compared to Bionix's roms, it's much harder to notice.
There's only 2 programs I use everyday that I noticeable any perceivable difference. Aldiko and Touchdown. The voodoo lag fix definitely makes a difference for me. Outside those 2 programs, you'd be hard pressed to find any noticeable differences with a Bionix rom.
does the OCLF only break vibration if u have the JI6 update? cuz i dont have the JI6 update yet and OCLF 2.1+ didnt break my vibration...or did i just get lucky?
Maverick777 said:
I've used Ryanza's ext2 lag fix for awhile (about a month) until Voodoo released their lag fix. Then I decided to use Bionix's rom with the Voodoo lag fix.
Compared to stock, any lag fix will be noticeable. Compared to Bionix's roms, it's much harder to notice.
There's only 2 programs I use everyday that I noticeable any perceivable difference. Aldiko and Touchdown. The voodoo lag fix definitely makes a difference for me. Outside those 2 programs, you'd be hard pressed to find any noticeable differences with a Bionix rom.
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Yeah.....Just as an aside though, I found no level of worrisome lag with JI6 stock either. At least not a level that a lag fix made a noticeable difference in. I don't use either Aldiko or Touchdown though.
As Samsung's firmwares have improved it's likely going to be a personal preference thing going forward, depending on whatever apps people are using. I generally try to stick to the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" on my gadgets, so I'll probably not be lag fixing anymore unless I hit a brick wall about it with some new awesomesauce app...
I use K9 to sync multiple email accounts and there isn't any major horrible lag going on when it polls in a totally new account or when it gets new email.
Seriously -- if you're having FC's and horrible lag you should consider starting out fresh or reupdating if you haven't.
thegendler said:
does the OCLF only break vibration if u have the JI6 update? cuz i dont have the JI6 update yet and OCLF 2.1+ didnt break my vibration...or did i just get lucky?
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Only on JI6.
kangxi said:
None. Seriously, just try it without one for awhile. You will be surprised.
But to answer your question, Voodoo would be best if your NAND supports it. I say that because OCLF v2.1+ breaks the vibration on our Vibrants right now until they fix it. I have never personally used Voodoo because of my NAND. I have used OCLF and loved it.
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OCLF v2.2+ IS OUT MAYBE VIBRATION FIXED?
is this your first day here? lag - the difference in time between initiating an action and receiving a response.
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What's a NAND?
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j56bp said:
OCLF v2.2+ IS OUT MAYBE VIBRATION FIXED?
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Confirmed, it is fixed.
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I'm installing it right now. I;ll see how it goes.
Guys I have nero v5 installed and I want to install the stock samsung vibrant froyo. Is it stable and how do I install the update. I backed up my stock 2.1 rom and am ready to restore to 2.1. Do I idyll 2.2 through kies or what
download kies mini and update through there
You install it through Odin. Personally I don't think its worth the upgrade from Nero unless you like the stock look. I came from Nero v5 to try out this rom and notice that my wifi is much slower, when wifi is off my bars say 3g but internet browsing feels like its on edge, and I can barely get a gps lock. On Nero I always get a lock no matter where I am. Of course apps load slightly slower, but that's not my biggest issue with the rom.
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You install it through Odin. Personally I don't think its worth the upgrade from Nero unless you like the stock look. I came from Nero v5 to try out this rom and notice that my wifi is much slower, when wifi is off my bars say 3g but internet browsing feels like its on edge, and I can barely get a gps lock. On Nero I always get a lock no matter where I am. Of course apps load slightly slower, but that's not my biggest issue with the rom.
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Any other ideas?
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You install it through Odin. Personally I don't think its worth the upgrade from Nero unless you like the stock look. I came from Nero v5 to try out this rom and notice that my wifi is much slower, when wifi is off my bars say 3g but internet browsing feels like its on edge, and I can barely get a gps lock. On Nero I always get a lock no matter where I am. Of course apps load slightly slower, but that's not my biggest issue with the rom.
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I get consistently over 3.8mbps dow now. Thats almost 1 mbps morw than my average before the update. I wrote in another thread wifi reception was better as well.
I think youre just expweienving some placebo effect. Happens a lot to people who use lag fixes and stuff.
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I was wondering the exact same thing. Im running Nero v5 and was debating weather to revert back to stock and do the 2.2 update
It is very stable for me, upgraded from stock 2.1 am pleased my gps never worked anyways so meh.
I upgraded from stock ji6 so that's the only rom I have to compare with. It was a nail-biting experience since kies wouldn't pick up my phone thanks to Tmobile leaving out the minor detail that USB debugging had to be enabled. Midway during the upgrade process kies crapped out with an error saying upgrade failed. Phone would only boot into emergency recovery and was luckily able to use the kies recovery option to finish. Phew! I've flashed phones before but they were always spares so I didn't care if they bricked or not - this is my first time flashing my main phone.
Ka6 is a definite improvement over ji6. The one thing I noticed immediately is lag is gone!! ji6 used to go from 3g to edge for no apparent reason, now it stays on 3g. Haven't noticed any difference in the transfer speeds in 3g or wifi, seems about the same. Built-in wifi and usb tethering is nice, and much improved copy paste. Different colors, GPS still is meh. I was using my Garmin for 2 years before I got this phone so I never really cared about the GPS. Aside from built-in flash all the other changes appear to be cosmetic. Media scanner seems quicker.
If you're still on stock ji6 the upgrade to froyo is definitely worth. If you're running a custom rom like Nero, Axura etc. I guess you should stay with it. You upgraded to a custom rom because you obviously put a custom rom on your phone because you didn't like stock!
I am running DK28 viper 2.0 trinity with the genocide kernel and I am pretty happy with it. It is ridiculously fast and haven't had any problems with it all.
Is it worth going to all the trouble to flash it to EB13? Is it any better than the viper rom?
EB13 is amazingly smooth. There are a lot of shortcomings, but omfg the smoothness.
Plus pretty soon I'm sure viper rom well require eb13.
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Your rom will most likely be updated to EB13 in the future, if you want to wait to just update the rom. I flashed the deodexed EB13 and am using LauncherPro and have not had any issues whatsoever, it is amazingly smooth and stable for me.
I think I will wait to change... It took a lot of time to find a ROM that was kickass and I don't want to downgrade it to EB13 if the specs are not overwhelming.
cmj22098 said:
I think I will wait to change... It took a lot of time to find a ROM that was kickass and I don't want to downgrade it to EB13 if the specs are not overwhelming.
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Specs? God knows you could never get back that millisecond extra it took you to open up a app.
Dk28 will not be supported anymore. If you like viper rom then just wait till they get a rom on eb13 and then upgrade to it.
I'm liking EB13 haven't seen the dk28 bugs like wifi errors.
My Experience with EB13
Here are the pros:
-Great TouchWiz launcher improvements. Allows for user settable home screens up to 7.
-Bluetooth VoiceDial works if you Odin the.tar file.
If you flash EB13 with CWM or update.zip its hit or miss. (errors out right after connecting to headset). I tried several times and still buggy.
-EB13 modem seems stable.
-TWS issues.
Here are the cons:
-Map compass is 180' off. Fix is to calibrate screen upside down. Then its fine. Accurate within 3-5 meters and oriented correctly.
So far I am running unrooted and happy. Baking it for a week.
Once I remove the bloatware, this should be a fast, smooth machine and I will be even happier. Stay tuned.
Epic Stock EB13 (Odin) Unrooted for now.
I say yes.
I have EB13 deodexed with Genocide 0.3a kernel and LauncherPro+, and everything is buttery smooth for me.
With the camera blur fixed. Its worth it. I love it!
I've noticed 0 difference, going from dk28 to eb13... genocide . 3a is AMAZING!!!!! But I was running it on dk28 also.
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I'd say yes since the voice call (speaker toggle) bug and wifi bugs are no more, and it is smoother overall performance than DK28. Personally I would just flash the genocide .3 kernal on top of what you have now as I believe genocide is compatible with DK28 (or was it just that first release) and then wait till they update viper to eb13.
I plan on upgrading, just waiting for a ROM that catches my eye.
dmanwithnoname said:
I plan on upgrading, just waiting for a ROM that catches my eye.
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I may wait for cm7. But I did upgrade to the genocide kernel.
syndicate
I made the plunge and upgraded to EB13 with syndicate... Its absolutely insane. All my iphone friends cant believe how fast and how amazing the phone is.
Screw you apple
cmj22098 said:
I made the plunge and upgraded to EB13 with syndicate... Its absolutely insane. All my iphone friends cant believe how fast and how amazing the phone is.
Screw you apple
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ACS Syndicate is so FAST. They are about to release the 1.1 version. Make sure to update. Excellent fixes involved. Should be the best EB13 ROM until Gingerbread (CM7) releases.
Steve Jobs can suckad*ck
I updated my Epic on the day EB13 was released. I used the update.zip using the stock recovery on my stock/rooted DI18 (no data/cache wipes before updating) which kept all my data and apps intact. After the update, the only problems I had were the one related to the camera (video lag in low light and still camera FC in sport mode), but after the kernel fix was introduced (thanks to mkasick) I have had absolutely ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NO problems. Granted I am still using basically the stock EB13 rooted only with Launcher Pro, but everything has worked as it should (GPS, SMS, MMS, video recording, camera, music player, SD card, etc.). The only issue for me is probably the checkerboarding on the stock browser which is not a big deal for me anyways.
How many of you have been happy with your EB13 upgrade experience?
I am waiting for a custom ROM.
Mine worked good on stock and even better using the genocide kernel.
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I'm running a beta build of a custom rom and I couldn't be happier. I'm not having any of the issues reported
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I've been very happy with the upgrade, I haven't ran into any problems with this build. Now I'm just waiting for the developers to really start pushing out their releases! Dying to get my hands on a official CM6.2 and MiUi!
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Already running Midnight rom with the Genocide kernel. Getting great battery life and my GPS definitely feels improved. Haven't dropped signal during nav yet (knock on wood)
Can't wait for more Roms and especially updated Cyanogen and Miui like above.
Running EB13 with midNIGHT ROM 4.1....my phone runs great, better than when it was on a DK28 mod
Mine runs great all stock EB13
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Mine worked good on stock and even better using the genocide kernel.
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Whats the genocide kernel? what advantages does it have over the stock eb13 kernel?
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Whats the genocide kernel? what advantages does it have over the stock eb13 kernel?
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The Genocide Kernel, is a kernel made my one of the Devs here. You can find it's thread in the Development section for more details.
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I was using stock EB13 with no problems..today I flashed the genocide kernel since I figure it can't hurt to have more battery life...
As for checker-boarding on the browser..coming from a TP2..I hardly call that checkerboarding lol
as for the checkerboarding browser, does anyone know if that is only on the stock browser, or others such as Dolphin as well?
Running EB13 stock w/genocide, no complaints. I use the miren browser as my default.
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I flashed eb13 with the samsung exe and immediately got root access and changed over to deodexed/ext4 and with the lastest genocide kernel .... close to perfect ... with the overclock and pretty heavy use battery life is darn good, amazingly. My battery app estimates 11.5 hrs @ 58%. I'm constantly picking the thing up and using it today. All apps run fine and now the browser is substantially faster than the wifes laptop! Was just on the gamestop site with a flash game review playing along side a bunch of animated adds and it still played great. 1375/3020 smartbench. This is all the "phone" I'll need for some time to come! Since the camera fix in genocide kernel, all regrets are gone. Plus, if you love video media like I do, you MUST have 2.2 as the video decoding and audio decoding are sgnificantly improved. 2.1 would stutter a bit with very high bit rate stuff. 2.2 makes the best quality video play FLAWLESSLY. Never a dropped frame. Even @2mbit/sec. Watching a movie on my phone is nearly as pleasing as my well calibrated big screen.
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EB13 is pretty good. Except for the bt voice dialing not working. If you don't have this issue what update method and what rom are you running???
Epic 4g
I'm happy. the battery is lasting for up to 24 hours now. I even slept through the night without charging it and woke up to a not dead phone. oh the possibilities
stock eb13 w root and cam patch, couldnt b more pleased w my phone
Not me. Its seems much better at first. But when you start getting random fc's here and there it tells you somethings wrong. In all honestly I think 2.1 eclair ran this phone with ease like a current machine would run winxp. No problems and everythings snappy. Works the way its suppose to. Throw win7 in and now youve complicated things by adding in bore instruction sets that might conflict. Not to say that it isn't gonna work well but we can clearly see sprint was full of **** when they said they were thoroughly testing for bugs. Build the is from the ground up with gingerbread. Until that happens were gonna keep getting updates that fix **** instead of updates that turn our epics for the better. Its what this hardware deserves. Next year when tegra 2's are mainstream phonemena hummingbird will be the mid level tier. Even with 2.2 I still think this hardware has more to give.
My 2 cents.
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Not me. Its seems much better at first. But when you start getting random fc's here and there it tells you somethings wrong. In all honestly I think 2.1 eclair ran this phone with ease like a current machine would run winxp. No problems and everythings snappy. Works the way its suppose to. Throw win7 in and now youve complicated things by adding in bore instruction sets that might conflict. Not to say that it isn't gonna work well but we can clearly see sprint was full of **** when they said they were thoroughly testing for bugs. Build the is from the ground up with gingerbread. Until that happens were gonna keep getting updates that fix **** instead of updates that turn our epics for the better. Its what this hardware deserves. Next year when tegra 2's are mainstream phonemena hummingbird will be the mid level tier. Even with 2.2 I still think this hardware has more to give.
My 2 cents.
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That's impossible in all honesty. With the way people were crying about the 2.2 update to build something from kernel up and redo it people would be crying "gingerbread is taking too long" screw Samsung, and Sprint...
i odin'd back to DI18 a day before EB13 and only restored contacts.
once EB13 dropped, i wiped everything 3 times w/ clockwork, upgraded via the update.zip method. Then did the 1 click root, and manually re-installed all my apps etc.
The one thing that really kills the 'new' froyo for me is the bluetooth problems still being present like on DK28. I got so damn irritated w/ DK28's bluetooth problems that i actually went back to 2.1
Now that i'm using EN13, I'm still pretty honked off but it hasn't irritated me enough yet to go back to eclair.. depends on how flaky the bluetooth becomes.
So far, I'm running stock EB13, 1 click root, genocide kernel installed yesterday) and gonna gauge battery life.
I'm really wanting to try out the MIUI and/or cyanogenmod once they're a little less buggy.. the devs are making great progress, but i need a fairly non-buggy phone for work so that's why i'm waiting (not complaining.. i experiment on the weekends w/ ROMs and such)
my .02
What does everyone think of EF02?
I have EC05 rooted and have had occasional issues with visual voicemail (says cant play until I restart the device), texts not coming through properly, and misc other issues. I was considering going to a ROM such as bonsai, but thought maybe EF02 would be better since it's close to a stock release.
I use my phone for business and look for stability and battery life primarily with performance and eye candy ranked third or fourth. Thanks ahead of time for the help.
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What does everyone think of EF02?
I have EC05 rooted and have had occasional issues with visual voicemail (says cant play until I restart the device), texts not coming through properly, and misc other issues. I was considering going to a ROM such as bonsai, but thought maybe EF02 would be better since it's close to a stock release.
I use my phone for business and look for stability and battery life primarily with performance and eye candy ranked third or fourth. Thanks ahead of time for the help.
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There are some kinks to work out. GPS is pretty iffy, and some apps don't work, for some reason. Still, it's clear the future is bright, cause I can't wait for something already this snappy to get rfs replaced, overclocked, and tweaked to hell like the froyo roms.
As for your other issues, I ported my number to google voice, so they handle all my texting/voicemail. No regrets so far, other than maybe that I can't use handcent anymore. People get my texts instantly too. My brother was at a ball game I was watching on tv once and was getting my texts along the lines of "He was safe!" so quickly after the plays he jokingly asked me if the TV was somehow ahead of live action.
One issue I'm having with EF02 is that I've lost the default shortcuts on the toolbar. All I have is Applications...
Anybody know how to get them back?
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I'm taking aa i3 for a run. But for a worry free xperience do the following..
Odin eb13.
Get gps lock.
Root.
Flash ef02. Set it up to ur liking.
Odin ec05 modem.
If you use titanium backup then restore only app not data!
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I've had no issues at all with EF02 w/EF10 modem. The only GPS issue I ever have is using check in on Facebook but the GPS locks fast so I think it's the Facebook app which in my opinion is pure garbage. It sucks on my girlfriends phone too and some of my coworkers have problems with the app as well.
I'm getting excellent performance. With 105+ apps installed, I'm getting 2500 on quadrant. I'm going to test gps in a few. All apps seem to be working.. i had some that didn't but i just uninstalled then reinstalled from market and it worked. Running i3 with GPS fix and chris41g rotation lag fix.
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I ended up going back to EC05 for SRF 1.2, but thats out of personal preference for the SRF rom. In my experience with EF02, it was very good. Fast for RFS, pretty good battery life, and all around mostly pretty stable... seems Samsung/Sprint are pretty close to a final/official build to me.
I am using EF02 with EF10 modem and it has worked perfectly so far. GPS works better than ever. All of my apps work. And I have had none of the wierd EC05 force closing with the 3 vibrates. It works great for me and can't wait for the official to drop.
I have been using EF02 for a while (AR i2) and everything has been very good, I had some strange issues with the GPS at first but now everything is working fine.
I get 12-15 hours with moderate use, not nearly as good as some of the Froyo roms but worth it because of Skype/Netflix... With the EF10 modem I got about half that, so I went back to the EF02 modem and everything is great.
I thought ef02 aa i3 was pretty good. Memory issues pushed me back to froyo. The leak didn't seem to clear memory correctly and used too much. other than that and gps issues at first I was actually happy with it. All in all not to bad. These froyo roms seem to be to polished to continue on a leak rom though.
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