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2.2 Roms, which one? Should I even bother?

So my question is which 2.2 ROM should I choose to update my Epic4g
I already running a 2.1 based rom from ACS (Syndicate ROM).
Flash is the only upside I'm am seeing atm. For some reason Im doubting ill see any day by day performance increases. or am I wrong?

Tried stock 2.2 but ended up going back to stock 2.1. Flash support in browser, bluetooth voice dialing, etc. are useful but don't make up for losing MobileAP support which currently works only in 2.1. Some of the other enhancements in 2.2 don't really add to the experience or workflow such as preview windows in browser. I prefer the simplicity and workflow of 2.1. Also, after a few days of using 2.2 GPS stopped locking on no matter what I tried including toggling airplane mode and the only way to restore GPS was to power cycle. GPS on 2.1, on the other hand, has been stable so far.

If your looking for stability and battery life stay away from the un-official 2.2 for now..
These are based on a slightly flaky release.
Don't get me wrong I have loaded most all of them out of curiosity BUT...
Froyo is still sadly not ready for prime time.

tmspyder said:
If your looking for stability and battery life stay away from the un-official 2.2 for now..
These are based on a slightly flaky release.
Don't get me wrong I have loaded most all of them out of curiosity BUT...
Froyo is still sadly not ready for prime time.
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I would have to disagree here. When the first froyo leaks came out I would areee that it was not ready. Now there are some good ones that are stable and have good battery life. I like nebula and bonsai the best. I would say give it a shot and if you don't like it go abck to 2.1. Flash runs choppy for me though.
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InfDaMarvel said:
So my question is which 2.2 ROM should I choose to update my Epic4g
I already running a 2.1 based rom from ACS (Syndicate ROM).
Flash is the only upside I'm am seeing atm. For some reason Im doubting ill see any day by day performance increases. or am I wrong?
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Nebula 1.0.4 Horsehead is what i'm running. The best in my opinion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154

LordLugard said:
Nebula 1.0.4 Horsehead is what i'm running. The best in my opinion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
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+1 . No issues so far with this rom!
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Viperrom is what i've been running. I have flashed every dk28 rom and nothing compares, besides thomas and rodderick are awesome with support.

I have tried all 2.2 roms and mammons bonsi4all is now my primary rom... quickest for me. Battery life although is not as good as syndicate rom was on 2.1 with xtreme kernal... but I use flash so its worth it for me.
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O boy, maybe ill just wait for andriod 2.3, i dont want to revert back to a rom with bad battery life. Plus, there isnt to many quality 2.2 themes.
Hopefully ACS can release another rom like syndicate or cyannogen mod will be ready soon.
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I had been on the Stock Froyo, but I just flashed Nebula & reallllly like it...

mi7chy said:
Tried stock 2.2 but ended up going back to stock 2.1. Flash support in browser, bluetooth voice dialing, etc. are useful but don't make up for losing MobileAP support which currently works only in 2.1. Some of the other enhancements in 2.2 don't really add to the experience or workflow such as preview windows in browser. I prefer the simplicity and workflow of 2.1. Also, after a few days of using 2.2 GPS stopped locking on no matter what I tried including toggling airplane mode and the only way to restore GPS was to power cycle. GPS on 2.1, on the other hand, has been stable so far.
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I'm running Bonsai and the WirelessTether works fine. But I guess you want to use it with multiple devices at once?

Which other roms have you tried??
I loved syndicate rom but they don't offer 2.2 version
Tried viper and epic experience.
How would you compare it to the quantum rom.
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I'm running Bonsai, latest version, and loving it. No issues to report on my phone.
Sent from my shoe, I mean....Epic shoe... I mean Samsung Epic! http://mobilehighway.blogspot.com/

I'm really enjoying the latest update of Epic Experience. It feels really snappy, and the battery life is stellar. I've also had no trouble with GPS or tethering. The browser just has a strange loading animation. Other than that, it's awesome.

DI18 2.1 unrooted > DK28 2.2 rooted

I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.

huh? i've only had my phone since tuesday, i haven't rooted it as of yet... but i wanted to see what that froyo is all about.

Don't do it. It's fun to play with, but like the OP said, if you want something that works reliably and well, stay stock.

Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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I have nothing against people who experiment with different baked ROMs on their phones--after all, where would we be without 'em?--but the performance of stock 2.1 on my Epic was already solid enough that I only really felt I needed to root for a few specific apps. I think any flashing I was going to do was always going to wait until official 2.2 was out and more development is done. I am jonesing for the new features and hopefully speed but am patient.

lynyrd65 said:
Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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Agree bonsai is fantastic, no bugs what so ever and very clean and fast. Way better then 2.1 stock battery life ia about the same.
i wont go back to d118, i will miss hulu and, humans vs, aliens and andy 83 those apps only work on 2.2 and my phone has been running fantastic and way better then d118.
GPS works better!
Wifi Works perfect!
Orientation switch is fast!!
And what ever other bugs people are having im having 0

I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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I want to go back to 2.1, but the ONLY thing that stops me is that I NEED GPS.
GPS on 2.1 is poop. I would have a hard time finding my peepee if it weren't for GPS.

I just did the exact same thing!
Running Nebula, was getting weird issues, so I went back to Syndicate with Xtreme kernel v1.2.
Ahh, everything is so snappy. I'll stick with this for a while.
MojoSwag said:
I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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It sounds like most of the people who are noticing problems are using nebula. You guys should give bonsai a try.

Ryjabo said:
I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.
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Lolol! I have been saying exactly this for as long as I remember. Froyo is freaking jerky. The animation transitions are not smooth.
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Flashing to Midnight ROM 3.2 is the best thing I ever did.
I love my Epic 4G…I loved it with Eclair, and I am now using midNIGHT 3.2 BYOR and I love it. It’s benchmark scores are twice as fast as Eclair, and you can tell how fast and snappy the phone is. Here is a list of the things I like best that Froyo was needed for.
1. Chrome to Phone – Huge time saver and way more useful than I thought it was going to be, and I thought it would be useful, lol
2. Flash 10.1
3. The apps that needed Froyo for enhancement… Gmail, Youtube, Winamp (there is a station I like on Shoutcast and Winamp required Froyo for Shoutcast)
4. Google Docs – being able to edit Google Docs on the go. The reason I wanted a phone with a keyboard was for doing long emails and editing documents and spreadsheets. The on-screen keyboard is OK, but takes up a lot if real estate.
5. Moving apps to the SD Card – I am an app junkie and I need the space, lol
There are more things, but those are the most important to me. It is was like I got a new phone for a second time. Some of the other things I think that help make the phone better that are not Froyo “items” are the Gingerbread Keyboard (really, really good, better than iOS in my opinion), ASOP Lock Screen, and the EXT4 file system.
I still liked the phone when it had Eclair, and I wouldn’t go back and buy a different phone (and I like it on Froyo even better), it is nice hardware, awesome 5-row keyboard, and it’s AMOLED screen rocks and everyone who see’s it immediately compares it to their own back lit LCD screens, and develops a serious case of envy, lol. I am old enough to know that companies will be companies and will always make and break promises(Apple customers have to put up with a company that said their alarm was fixed in November to have it happen again in January and tells them they are holding their phone wrong). It would be nice if they always kept their promises, but they can’t. If companies were 100% honest, no one would buy their products just like if politicians were 100% honest, no one would vote for them. It would be nice to think we still would, but if we would….wouldn’t there already be 100% honest companies and politicians, lol

Zeinzu said:
I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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Agreed.
Sent from Carl Sagan through the Cosmos

If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.

hazridi said:
If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.
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+1 bonsai runs way better then 2.1 and bettery life us slightly better...
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Been running TrulyEpic 1.5 and quite pleased with the performance, features, battery-life, etc. I really really like that it now boots in < 30 seconds. (I swap batteries instead of charging, so quick boot times are especially nice).
2.1 Eclair simply unusable because of the Calendar and Bluetooth Voice Search bugs.
But beyond that you're just wrong on performance in Eclair vs Froyo.

[Q] is EB 13 worth it?

I am running DK28 viper 2.0 trinity with the genocide kernel and I am pretty happy with it. It is ridiculously fast and haven't had any problems with it all.
Is it worth going to all the trouble to flash it to EB13? Is it any better than the viper rom?

EB13 is amazingly smooth. There are a lot of shortcomings, but omfg the smoothness.

Plus pretty soon I'm sure viper rom well require eb13.
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Your rom will most likely be updated to EB13 in the future, if you want to wait to just update the rom. I flashed the deodexed EB13 and am using LauncherPro and have not had any issues whatsoever, it is amazingly smooth and stable for me.

I think I will wait to change... It took a lot of time to find a ROM that was kickass and I don't want to downgrade it to EB13 if the specs are not overwhelming.

cmj22098 said:
I think I will wait to change... It took a lot of time to find a ROM that was kickass and I don't want to downgrade it to EB13 if the specs are not overwhelming.
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Specs? God knows you could never get back that millisecond extra it took you to open up a app.

Dk28 will not be supported anymore. If you like viper rom then just wait till they get a rom on eb13 and then upgrade to it.

I'm liking EB13 haven't seen the dk28 bugs like wifi errors.

My Experience with EB13
Here are the pros:
-Great TouchWiz launcher improvements. Allows for user settable home screens up to 7.
-Bluetooth VoiceDial works if you Odin the.tar file.
If you flash EB13 with CWM or update.zip its hit or miss. (errors out right after connecting to headset). I tried several times and still buggy.
-EB13 modem seems stable.
-TWS issues.
Here are the cons:
-Map compass is 180' off. Fix is to calibrate screen upside down. Then its fine. Accurate within 3-5 meters and oriented correctly.
So far I am running unrooted and happy. Baking it for a week.
Once I remove the bloatware, this should be a fast, smooth machine and I will be even happier. Stay tuned.
Epic Stock EB13 (Odin) Unrooted for now.

I say yes.
I have EB13 deodexed with Genocide 0.3a kernel and LauncherPro+, and everything is buttery smooth for me.

With the camera blur fixed. Its worth it. I love it!

I've noticed 0 difference, going from dk28 to eb13... genocide . 3a is AMAZING!!!!! But I was running it on dk28 also.
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I'd say yes since the voice call (speaker toggle) bug and wifi bugs are no more, and it is smoother overall performance than DK28. Personally I would just flash the genocide .3 kernal on top of what you have now as I believe genocide is compatible with DK28 (or was it just that first release) and then wait till they update viper to eb13.

I plan on upgrading, just waiting for a ROM that catches my eye.

dmanwithnoname said:
I plan on upgrading, just waiting for a ROM that catches my eye.
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I may wait for cm7. But I did upgrade to the genocide kernel.

syndicate
I made the plunge and upgraded to EB13 with syndicate... Its absolutely insane. All my iphone friends cant believe how fast and how amazing the phone is.
Screw you apple

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I made the plunge and upgraded to EB13 with syndicate... Its absolutely insane. All my iphone friends cant believe how fast and how amazing the phone is.
Screw you apple
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ACS Syndicate is so FAST. They are about to release the 1.1 version. Make sure to update. Excellent fixes involved. Should be the best EB13 ROM until Gingerbread (CM7) releases.
Steve Jobs can suckad*ck

Who has tried 2.2 and went back to 2.1?

Just curious. I was thinking of going back. My phone used to fly on 2.1. They only thing I did not like was lack of flash player capability.
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Until we got the open source kernel with BLN, I was strongly thinking about downgraded (and rather regretted upgrading so soon), due to the loss of BLN. Now, my phone is at least as fast, has all the same features (lacked GPS then, and still do now ), but also all the new Froyo features like push notifications (push = infinitely better for battery!).

I went back to stock 2.1 (EA28) after using 2.2 with superclean 2.9.2. So far, I'm impressed with 2.1, check out the improvements:
1) Browser scrolling is much smoother!
2) Battery life is great without doing bunch of hacks each boot!
3) POP email client actually works correctly and doesn't snap to top of list constantly!
4) SMS looks much better!
5) GPS locks faster than any 2.2 ROM!
Negatives of 2.1:
1) slightly more UI lag sometimes... but not bad
2) Google maps doesnt fully 3D rotate
Overall, 2.1 is better. I'm waiting for official 2.2, hopefully it will address the bugs in the leak. Perhaps it will never come, and then we'll all never buy Samsung again.
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I made a post about this yesterday. Every time I mention 2.1 performs better overall than Froyo i get attacked my developers. Bottom line is that Battery/Performance just aren't as good for me on 2.2 as they were on 2.1. Also apparently memory management is supposed to be better but tasker constantly reports low memory and when I clear the RAM it hardly goes down until reboot.

Im back on 2.1. I got sick of constantly battling wakelocks. I will flash Nameless when v4 drops though.

If i go back, I will Root, CWR, and debloat, debing myself. I will also look into an AOSP voodoo kernel for voodoo lagfix and sound. I am considering trying this out. If I do I will let y'all know if the kernel and voodoo like 2.1, i know the rest of the stuff works as i have done it before, and now that we have a fixed CWR, even better, plus i really like the feeds and updates widget.

Went back to 2.1 myself as well
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I've gone back and forth 5 times already, all just to check and verify power consumption.

DaleV said:
If i go back, I will Root, CWR, and debloat, debing myself. I will also look into an AOSP voodoo kernel for voodoo lagfix and sound. I am considering trying this out. If I do I will let y'all know if the kernel and voodoo like 2.1, i know the rest of the stuff works as i have done it before, and now that we have a fixed CWR, even better, plus i really like the feeds and updates widget.
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Aosp kernel on 2.1 tw roms huh? Good luck with that one
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I flashed back to dl01 with root and sirgatez's blazed kernel. So far so fast!
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Honestly, after jumping onto the Froyo boat so late in the game from using DJ05 forever, and with kernels popping up, Froyo is as fast if not faster than 2.1 has ever been. Battery life is the same, and the extra 2.2 features are awesome.
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Battery life almost doubled when I switched to 2.2 and it's running quite a bit faster. Best of all is the working gps and flash! Never going back.
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Being the noob I am,, so far I've only personally experienced the 2.1 stock verizon bloat load and now SC 2.9 with voodoo. All I can say is WOW,, there is no comparison between the performance of those two,, the SC absolutely blows away the old stock 2.1. So eh no, I dont see ever going back to 2.1.
Now that being said, I've never tried a 'debloated' 2.1 version of a load of any kind, maybe running voodoo filesystem structure,, so maybe that would be even faster,, idk.. But at this point I am so happy with it that I really I dont want to mess with it

I've been back and forth and ultimately I would have to say that a ComaVolted SC 2.9.2 is a lot better than the eclair version of the phone. I get killer battery life and my phone actually works the way it was meant to. I don't think I will be going back to 2.1.

My battery life has increased by a great fold ever since I switched to 2.2. Everything else has far surpassed 2.1 from my experince.
The only reason I would ever go back to 2.1 was if I had to return my phone.
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I have reverted back to D101 so many times I lost count. In my opinion there are many things both benifitial and negative for both 2.2 and 2.1. Personally I go for stability, but I have finally got a stable 2.2. And I actually like TW.
D101 is still a good build in my opinion. I would still be perfectly happy running it, but theming and kernels are much more fun.

bond32 said:
I have reverted back to D101 so many times I lost count. In my opinion there are many things both benifitial and negative for both 2.2 and 2.1. Personally I go for stability, but I have finally got a stable 2.2. And I actually like TW.
D101 is still a good build in my opinion. I would still be perfectly happy running it, but theming and kernels are much more fun.
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Point me to a stable stock 2.2 build?
Debinged and debloated?
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chefthomas99 said:
Point me to a stable stock 2.2 build?
Debinged and debloated?
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/ver...tom-roms-w-root-clockwork-updated-3-25-a.html
When I first started all the customization, I was very hesitant. I ran just the Stock EB01 debing/debloat for a while and had zero issues, with the exception that the vibration length changed from 2.1 to 2.2.
Just use Odin 1.3 and follow the instructions if you haven't done it before.
Edit: I am running the Superclean 2.9.2 myself with all the TW aspects added back in, even the live wallpapers. I like the stock look and feel, but I also like many of the Superclean features.

Personally I would hold off flashing anything new until NAMELESS drops. It should be within the next few days and may finally give us the 100% froyo experience we have been waiting for along with edify scripting and the new cwm.
Until then im going to stick with my personally debloated, debinged, detouchwiz-ed , EA28.
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bobloblaw1 said:
Personally I would hold off flashing anything new until NAMELESS drops. It should be within the next few days and may finally give us the 100% froyo experience we have been waiting for along with edify scripting and the new cwm.
Until then im going to stick with my personally debloated, debinged, detouchwiz-ed , EA28.
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Well, glad thats just you, personally.
By the way,
EC10 is about 70% binary identical to EB01.

[Q] EF02 Reviews

What does everyone think of EF02?
I have EC05 rooted and have had occasional issues with visual voicemail (says cant play until I restart the device), texts not coming through properly, and misc other issues. I was considering going to a ROM such as bonsai, but thought maybe EF02 would be better since it's close to a stock release.
I use my phone for business and look for stability and battery life primarily with performance and eye candy ranked third or fourth. Thanks ahead of time for the help.

rustyt22 said:
What does everyone think of EF02?
I have EC05 rooted and have had occasional issues with visual voicemail (says cant play until I restart the device), texts not coming through properly, and misc other issues. I was considering going to a ROM such as bonsai, but thought maybe EF02 would be better since it's close to a stock release.
I use my phone for business and look for stability and battery life primarily with performance and eye candy ranked third or fourth. Thanks ahead of time for the help.
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There are some kinks to work out. GPS is pretty iffy, and some apps don't work, for some reason. Still, it's clear the future is bright, cause I can't wait for something already this snappy to get rfs replaced, overclocked, and tweaked to hell like the froyo roms.
As for your other issues, I ported my number to google voice, so they handle all my texting/voicemail. No regrets so far, other than maybe that I can't use handcent anymore. People get my texts instantly too. My brother was at a ball game I was watching on tv once and was getting my texts along the lines of "He was safe!" so quickly after the plays he jokingly asked me if the TV was somehow ahead of live action.

One issue I'm having with EF02 is that I've lost the default shortcuts on the toolbar. All I have is Applications...
Anybody know how to get them back?
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I'm taking aa i3 for a run. But for a worry free xperience do the following..
Odin eb13.
Get gps lock.
Root.
Flash ef02. Set it up to ur liking.
Odin ec05 modem.
If you use titanium backup then restore only app not data!
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I've had no issues at all with EF02 w/EF10 modem. The only GPS issue I ever have is using check in on Facebook but the GPS locks fast so I think it's the Facebook app which in my opinion is pure garbage. It sucks on my girlfriends phone too and some of my coworkers have problems with the app as well.

I'm getting excellent performance. With 105+ apps installed, I'm getting 2500 on quadrant. I'm going to test gps in a few. All apps seem to be working.. i had some that didn't but i just uninstalled then reinstalled from market and it worked. Running i3 with GPS fix and chris41g rotation lag fix.
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I ended up going back to EC05 for SRF 1.2, but thats out of personal preference for the SRF rom. In my experience with EF02, it was very good. Fast for RFS, pretty good battery life, and all around mostly pretty stable... seems Samsung/Sprint are pretty close to a final/official build to me.

I am using EF02 with EF10 modem and it has worked perfectly so far. GPS works better than ever. All of my apps work. And I have had none of the wierd EC05 force closing with the 3 vibrates. It works great for me and can't wait for the official to drop.

I have been using EF02 for a while (AR i2) and everything has been very good, I had some strange issues with the GPS at first but now everything is working fine.
I get 12-15 hours with moderate use, not nearly as good as some of the Froyo roms but worth it because of Skype/Netflix... With the EF10 modem I got about half that, so I went back to the EF02 modem and everything is great.

I thought ef02 aa i3 was pretty good. Memory issues pushed me back to froyo. The leak didn't seem to clear memory correctly and used too much. other than that and gps issues at first I was actually happy with it. All in all not to bad. These froyo roms seem to be to polished to continue on a leak rom though.
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