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Still laggy even after lagfix hitting 2200 on quadrant.

Yes. Phone its some how better but it gets stock here and there. .lags make me sick. Any one knows a real fix for lag? I'm hitting 2200 plus on quadrant and all but I think that means ****. .. any one have a real solution. ...
Love for this to be like my evo running cm6. Snappy and fast. But I got to say I'm in love with galaxy. ..love the amoled. Can't ever go back to a regular screen LOL. I just want this to fly the way is suppose to man.
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i have no idea, I read some things that said these lag fixes show higher numbers, but are not actually faster. that is just what I read, I have not applied any.
but do have a question kind of related so not trying to thread jack.
I am under the impression that the lag fixes make the phone use dalvic (which is faster then how ever samsung had it set up) (i obviously dont completely understand the technical details of the lag fixes). When we get 2.2, either from samsung or developers, will it be faster because 2.2 is more optimized and using jit AND will they use what ever these lag fixes implement?
in other words, 2.2 will make the phone faster and partly due to jit, but will we still have to do these fixes to make the phone use dalvic (instead of what ever samsung did) to make it as fast as it should be, or will 2.2 make that change also?
not trying to thread jack, if this needs its own thread, please let me know and I apoligize, just though i would post as its related.

Amen to that. Hit 2200 exactly just about an got ago but there are still lag issues. I believe the JIT compiler will make all the difference. So, uh, just be prepared to get a bunch of "be patient" "just wait" posts.

kboater said:
i have no idea, I read some things that said these lag fixes show higher numbers, but are not actually faster. that is just what I read, I have not applied any.
but do have a question kind of related so not trying to thread jack.
I am under the impression that the lag fixes make the phone use dalvic (which is faster then how ever samsung had it set up) (i obviously dont completely understand the technical details of the lag fixes). When we get 2.2, either from samsung or developers, will it be faster because 2.2 is more optimized and using jit AND will they use what ever these lag fixes implement?
in other words, 2.2 will make the phone faster and partly due to jit, but will we still have to do these fixes to make the phone use dalvic (instead of what ever samsung did) to make it as fast as it should be, or will 2.2 make that change also?
not trying to thread jack, if this needs its own thread, please let me know and I apoligize, just though i would post as its related.
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can anyone comment on my question? will 2.2 be more speedy just because of the great things that make 2.2 fast (jit/optimized) or will it include what ever our current lag fixes do with an ext partition/dalvic?
so say we get 2.2 and its great, would it be even better if we do the lag fixes that we are currently doing it samsung does not already implement this change?
thanks

kboater said:
can anyone comment on my question? will 2.2 be more speedy just because of the great things that make 2.2 fast (jit/optimized) or will it include what ever our current lag fixes do with an ext partition/dalvic?
so say we get 2.2 and its great, would it be even better if we do the lag fixes that we are currently doing it samsung does not already implement this change?
thanks
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yes 2.2 it that big of a difference. Jit realy speeds up the phone. I can't wait. I still though have no lag without a lag fix. I got a n1 with froyo and the sgs is just as quick CPU wise without it.

Be patient and just wait........lol

That's because Quadrant score is biased by the "lag fix". If my understanding of the lag fix is correct, it creates and ext2 FS on top of the existing one, acting, in a sense, like a buffer. It may help you fool the quadrant score with writes and may improve a little if you are invoking the same app multiple times, but all that at the expense of losing journaling, a very important feature in a portable device.

I've noticed the same issues -- fast quadrant, still laggy -- and so I basically disregard all mentions of "quadrant" in the forums. That said, the One Click Lag Fix is still a huge improvement over stock, but not perfect.
For my phone, I've reverted back to the METHOD #1 fix mentioned in this thread -- basically moving the /data storage into RAM. While it's not perfect (mainly due to the small app storage space), it is *very* quick and remains quick. It's also relatively easy to apply using Busybox and a Terminal Emulator.
Hope that helps.

smashpunks said:
yes 2.2 it that big of a difference. Jit realy speeds up the phone. I can't wait. I still though have no lag without a lag fix. I got a n1 with froyo and the sgs is just as quick CPU wise without it.
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i realize that 2.2 is a big improvement (i had it running on mytouch). what I am asking is:
regarding the lag fixes that we do now, I am wondering if that issue will be addressed when we get 2.2? or if that it will be faster because of jit and other things, and the problems that are causing lag (not using dalvic) will still need to be addressed?

I believe Samsung need to address the lag issue with a seperate firmware update to change the file system. I just hope and pray they will do it I can only imagine how fast the phone would be with a more modern file system given its performance on RFS!

kboater said:
i have no idea, I read some things that said these lag fixes show higher numbers, but are not actually faster. that is just what I read, I have not applied any.
but do have a question kind of related so not trying to thread jack.
I am under the impression that the lag fixes make the phone use dalvic (which is faster then how ever samsung had it set up) (i obviously dont completely understand the technical details of the lag fixes). When we get 2.2, either from samsung or developers, will it be faster because 2.2 is more optimized and using jit AND will they use what ever these lag fixes implement?
in other words, 2.2 will make the phone faster and partly due to jit, but will we still have to do these fixes to make the phone use dalvic (instead of what ever samsung did) to make it as fast as it should be, or will 2.2 make that change also?
not trying to thread jack, if this needs its own thread, please let me know and I apoligize, just though i would post as its related.
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Well the differences for me is my 3G speed from 200K-400K has change to 2Mbps-4Mbps, and I am happy. Thanks to the hard work of RyanZA's One Click Lag Fix.

nguyenmd said:
Well the differences for me is my 3G speed from 200K-400K has change to 2Mbps-4Mbps, and I am happy. Thanks to the hard work of RyanZA's One Click Lag Fix.
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Wow. I was not aware that the lag fix would change data speeds THAT much. can anyone else confirm results like that?

[Q] JI6 what next?

Now that JI6 is everyones norm. can I still use one click root and one click lag fix.
My scores are down from 2200 to the 800s.
Should I wait for these to be updated?

Well, OCLF works just fine, the only issue is that you will lose your vibrate until Ryan gets it fixed. He is actively working on it. However, JI6 is plenty fast enough, especially if you are using a custom rom such as Bionix. Whatever Samsung did in the latest update really has the phone moving.

[Q] Whats the best lag fix for the fascinate?

I just rooted using the super one click root and was wondering what the best lag fix was for the fascinate?

It's all the same lagfix, it's the kernels that are different.
I use Dirk's kernels.
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Voodoo has shown much greater success for me vs. Ryanza's 1 click lagfix. Voodoo is ext4 vs. running loop commands in an ext2 partition for the other. Not to mention the fact that you are giving up about .7 GB with one click lagfix. Quadrant scores are higher on RyanZA's but quadrant scores don't translate directly into real world results. Voodoo and OC until Froyo's arrival. BIG DISCLAIMER!!!!! RTFM before doing anything with either or you will soft brick your phone. Nothing hard about applying voodoo or fixing it if you do happen to brick it if you read the manual.

Old lagfix is old. If you want one, definitely use voodoo. Your options are from Dirk and jt, each with overclock kernels available as well.
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I wouldn't recommend doing any lag fix at this time.
Ryanza's 1 click fix is a "fake" lag fix. It's mainly for faking/improving quadrant scores. Don't even bother. Has little to no real world performance increases.
Voodoo is a true lag fix, however, the current version that exists in the kernels that our out for device (such as jt's and dirk's) are buggy. You may install them ok, and they will work just fine, and they definetly help. However, many people are noticing slowdowns after some usage, that start to negate the improvements. But worse, many people, including myself, are unable to get the "disable_lagfix" working, to shut voodoo off, which is required prior to flashing non-voodoo kernels, or using CWM, etc. If you're one of these people like I was, your phone basically bricks after disabling voodoo and you have to use Adrynalyn's voodoo uninstaller which involves wiping your phone, so you'll lose all your data. I didn't believe that it was a problem until it happened to me, I thought it was just noobs being noobs. however, many skilled people including myself have not gotten voodoo to disable in it's current form.
While there are backup utilities like Ti Backup that work awesome, setting your phone back up from scratch even with backups can be a pain. If you don't like doing such things, I wouldn't bother messing with voodoo for now.
There IS a new voodoo base kernel in development/out now by supercurio. However, it needs to be ported over to the Fascinate for it to work on our phone. This version contains many fixes/improvements, and will hopefully resolve the issues people (like me) have had disabling voodoo. There are no kernels out yet for our phone that yet have this new voodoo.
There is also z4mod on the horizon which is an alternative to voodoo, that allows for greater compatability and may replace the voodoo project for our phones. That should be out soon too.
Basically: if you don't mind the potential to need to wipe your phone to get rid of voodoo, and are a trigger happy flasher - go ahead and flash any kernel you want. But if you wait even a week, I'm sure there will be better kernels out there. Birdmans project looks promising. I'm running his test20 kernel right now.

Protonus said:
I wouldn't recommend doing any lag fix at this time.
Ryanza's 1 click fix is a "fake" lag fix. It's mainly for faking/improving quadrant scores. Don't even bother. Has little to no real world performance increases.
Voodoo is a true lag fix, however, the current version that exists in the kernels that our out for device (such as jt's and dirk's) are buggy. You may install them ok, and they will work just fine, and they definetly help. However, many people are noticing slowdowns after some usage, that start to negate the improvements. But worse, many people, including myself, are unable to get the "disable_lagfix" working, to shut voodoo off, which is required prior to flashing non-voodoo kernels, or using CWM, etc. If you're one of these people like I was, your phone basically bricks after disabling voodoo and you have to use Adrynalyn's voodoo uninstaller which involves wiping your phone, so you'll lose all your data. I didn't believe that it was a problem until it happened to me, I thought it was just noobs being noobs. however, many skilled people including myself have not gotten voodoo to disable in it's current form.
While there are backup utilities like Ti Backup that work awesome, setting your phone back up from scratch even with backups can be a pain. If you don't like doing such things, I wouldn't bother messing with voodoo for now.
There IS a new voodoo base kernel in development/out now by supercurio. However, it needs to be ported over to the Fascinate for it to work on our phone. This version contains many fixes/improvements, and will hopefully resolve the issues people (like me) have had disabling voodoo. There are no kernels out yet for our phone that yet have this new voodoo.
There is also z4mod on the horizon which is an alternative to voodoo, that allows for greater compatability and may replace the voodoo project for our phones. That should be out soon too.
Basically: if you don't mind the potential to need to wipe your phone to get rid of voodoo, and are a trigger happy flasher - go ahead and flash any kernel you want. But if you wait even a week, I'm sure there will be better kernels out there. Birdmans project looks promising. I'm running his test20 kernel right now.
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^ well said ^
the disable_lagfix worked for me, luckily; now i'm running a clean rom with no voodoo and no overclock - works great without either of these (more stable and still very fast!)

Protonus said:
I wouldn't recommend doing any lag fix at this time.
Ryanza's 1 click fix is a "fake" lag fix. It's mainly for faking/improving quadrant scores. Don't even bother. Has little to no real world performance increases.
Voodoo is a true lag fix, however, the current version that exists in the kernels that our out for device (such as jt's and dirk's) are buggy. You may install them ok, and they will work just fine, and they definetly help. However, many people are noticing slowdowns after some usage, that start to negate the improvements.
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I've found that the "slowdowns" really only occur on the Overclocked Voodoo kernels. I've been on the 0.2 Voodoo kernel (with no OC) and have found that it's been consistently fast with no lag, lockups, or slowdowns whatsoever (I've been running it for weeks). It's been stable as a rock. Your point is well noted on the reported removal issues (as well as your own experience) and the effects of the OC'd kernels though.

FWIW, I'm one of the apparently few people that actually did notice real-world performance increases using the "old" lag fix. It is most noticeable with applications that do a lot of read/writes to the /data/data and cache directories (web browsers, for example). There is, of course, still lag when installing or loading applications themselves, because those don't get stored in the virtual partition, but that's not quite as big of a deal.
I will say that it is without a doubt much less risky than the voodoo one, as I have enabled and disabled it two or three times without any issues whatsoever. I'm very nervous about messing around with voodoo as it appears there's a good chance of bricking my phone. I have decided to wait until Froyo comes out, and see if there is still any lag after that that would warrant a lag fix of any kind. If there is still lag, I'll probably wait for an actual custom Froyo ROM instead of just swapping kernels around. Until then, my phone is fast enough.
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ivorycruncher said:
There is, of course, still lag when installing or loading applications themselves, because those don't get stored in the virtual partition, but that's not quite as big of a deal.
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Lolwut?
I think you are confused on how the lag fix works.
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Thanks
guys i really appreciate all of your input you have been really helpful...i am coming from the original droid and i was flash happy but the fascinate seems a bit more complicated as of now i am trying to research alot right now and really hoping for some froyo because i truly do miss it. so i think i might just keep it rooted and give it a few weeks and see whats on the horizon

I hear you, I am in the same boat. A little harder to find the info here as well. But there is a lot of great info here and helpful people!
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adrynalyne said:
Lolwut?
I think you are confused on how the lag fix works.
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Nope, I went through every line of code in the setup script, and I know exactly how it works. It simply creates a virtual ext2 partition within a data file that contains your /data/data, /data/system, and /data/dalvik-cache directories. The apps themselves (apk files) are stored in /data/app, so they're still on the physical RFS partition, which has slower read/write times.
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ivorycruncher said:
Nope, I went through every line of code in the setup script, and I know exactly how it works. It simply creates a virtual ext2 partition within a data file that contains your /data/data, /data/system, and /data/dalvik-cache directories. The apps themselves (apk files) are stored in /data/app, so they're still on the physical RFS partition, which has slower read/write times.
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Now I definitely know you are confused.
I'll give you a hint:
pssst: RFS is only slow on writing.

adrynalyne said:
Now I definitely know you are confused.
I'll give you a hint:
pssst: RFS is only slow on writing.
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This is getting interesting... Popcorn anyone?

No worries, I am done. Some of these guys are interesting because they don't actually know what the lag fix is for

adrynalyne said:
No worries, I am done. Some of these guys are interesting because they don't actually know what the lag fix is for
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Okay, I admit, I didn't know it was just the write speed that was an issue. However, I don't appreciate the fact that you made it sound like everything I said was incorrect, because that's not true. While loading apps may not be any faster, I still see my phone slow to a crawl when installing new apps, during which there are obviously write operations occurring. But like I said before, not that big of a deal. The data and cache folders are what really matter, as data frequently gets written to those directories.
I'm well aware that the virtual ext2 partition is not as good as a true physical ext4 partition, but it's still better than RFS, and the extra benefit Voodoo brings is not worth the risk of bricking my phone, in my opinion. Anyway, 'nuff said.
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Thinking of moving from my incredible to a fascinate and i see a lot of posts about "lag." After playing with one in the store I'm wondering if it is lag associated with the UI (swipe between home screens for instance) which seems way slower than the incredible or lag only associated with installing programs. I love the hardware, but honestly Touchwiz seems a bit slow overall for a phone with such outstanding hardware. Does the "lag fix" improve this as well?

ivorycruncher said:
Okay, I admit, I didn't know it was just the write speed that was an issue. However, I don't appreciate the fact that you made it sound like everything I said was incorrect, because that's not true. While loading apps may not be any faster, I still see my phone slow to a crawl when installing new apps, during which there are obviously write operations occurring. But like I said before, not that big of a deal. The data and cache folders are what really matter, as data frequently gets written to those directories.
I'm well aware that the virtual ext2 partition is not as good as a true physical ext4 partition, but it's still better than RFS, and the extra benefit Voodoo brings is not worth the risk of bricking my phone, in my opinion. Anyway, 'nuff said.
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Voodoo has yet to brick a phone.
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nmyeti said:
Thinking of moving from my incredible to a fascinate and i see a lot of posts about "lag." After playing with one in the store I'm wondering if it is lag associated with the UI (swipe between home screens for instance) which seems way slower than the incredible or lag only associated with installing programs. I love the hardware, but honestly Touchwiz seems a bit slow overall for a phone with such outstanding hardware. Does the "lag fix" improve this as well?
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That is mostly the crappy Verizon bloatware and all the crap that runs all the time as a result. Flash a ROM like jt's clean rom and you'll see how fast TouchWiz can really be.
that being said, ditch touchwiz anyways and get Launcher Pro, which is all around better...
The lag fixes help with the reading and writing of data to the internal memory of the phone, which is formatted using a propiretary RFS format, rather than a more common / faster one like ext4. So you'll see the speed improvements doing things like writing/reading from a database (such as pulling up a list of all your installed programs), or when installing an app from the market, etc. While the phone with a clean ROM (like JT1134's super clean) is VERY fast, and even faster over clocked, you'll notice on the stock kernel, sometimes it doesn't seem as fast as it should be doing somethings, for a moment, like it pauses. This is the "lag" in question.
It's really not that bad, either way, once you have a clean ROM, and a better kernel loaded.
I can pretty much guarantee you'll love the Fascinate vs. an Incredible once you hack it up a bit Get the kickstand case ;-)

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nmyeti said:
Thinking of moving from my incredible to a fascinate and i see a lot of posts about "lag." After playing with one in the store I'm wondering if it is lag associated with the UI (swipe between home screens for instance) which seems way slower than the incredible or lag only associated with installing programs. I love the hardware, but honestly Touchwiz seems a bit slow overall for a phone with such outstanding hardware. Does the "lag fix" improve this as well?
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[Q] Is voodoo worth the hassle?

Seems like there are a lot of posts/threads with problems.
I'm currently running JT's super clean with 11/06 test non voodoo kernel and few different mods/themes etc...
contemplating voodoo.

andmer said:
Seems like there are a lot of posts/threads with problems.
I'm currently running JT's super clean with 11/06 test non voodoo kernel and few different mods/themes etc...
contemplating voodoo.
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Short answer? no.

Just use the Lagfix in the market, Safe easy....and easily uninstallable

BingoDanny said:
Just use the Lagfix in the market, Safe easy....and easily uninstallable
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It's not uninstalled much easier and all it creates is high benchmarks. There is not the same type of performance gain as with voodoo.
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I had some serious problems with voodoo and I wont install it again, but lots of people love it and have no problems. There are lots of posts on here if you do get in trouble with it tho - up to you I guess.
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Hmmm i begg to differ ive tried both. Fixes browser slow loads and market. I noticed no difference. And im not much into Benchmarks. Whats the point.
Youll be hard pressed to find 5 apps that the fascinate can play.......that a old htc eris cant.
Lag fixes are artficial fixes in my eyes. but thats my opinion....im not a techie!

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Just use the Lagfix in the market, Safe easy....and easily uninstallable
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The ex2 lagfix isn't safe: it's prone to data corruption. I suppose if you're reflashing every other day this won't matter so much.
Voodoo is only ever a hassle on uninstalling, so it depends how often you're planning to swap ROMs. If you just want to set your phone up to an optimum point and leave it there for a while, it's essential. If you're flash-happy with new ROMs, you may want to hold off until we get a Voodoo-enabled CWM.

Hogwash
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s44 said:
The ex2 lagfix isn't safe: it's prone to data corruption. I suppose if you're reflashing every other day this won't matter so much.
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Um, sorry, but I call BS on this one. I have not seen one single thread on this forum that has anyone reporting days corruption resulting from the ext2 lag fix. Furthermore, I have been running it for quite a while, and have had absolutely no data corruption of any kind. I'd like to see some proof to back this claim.
Also, I have enabled and disabled it several times, all without incident, so I would say it's very safe when compared with Voodoo, even if the reward isn't as great.
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You are welcome to call BS, but ext2 has absolutely NO journaling capability. Google it a bit, you will see there is a Hugely increased chance of data loss/corruption on power loss.
Its a fact, not an opinion. Hence, ext3 was superseded by ext3, and eventually, ext4.

Dk28 vs EB13 is switch worth the trouble?

I had to start this thread because the more I read on EB13 the more I get the feeling that its not that big of impovement over DK28.
I would at least think that they would make web browser lag free like its on Syndicate(Maybe even stock DI18),but no-that was too much to ask.
Anyways to make it short:Syndicate is still the fastest and smoothest and 2.2 supposed to be an improvement in ui responsiveness and speed but in this case its not from what im reading so far.
Before I delete my peronal modded version of Bonsai Ext4 and flash to EB13(DK28Plus,lol) and spend a few more hours modding it,is it worth it?

Id wait untill roms are updated
Epic

I don't think EB13 is an improvement over the DK28 just yet. But since the source is out, the devs will be able to improve it to a point of being superior to DK28 since they have more info.
A would think a lot of people aren't even going to upgrade to EB13 till the devs have had their hand in it. I think it is the flash freaks that will get EB13 just to get it.

lviv73 said:
I had to start this thread because the more I read on EB13 the more I get the feeling that its not that big of impovement over DK28.
I would at least think that they would make web browser lag free like its on Syndicate(Maybe even stock DI18),but no-that was too much to ask.
Anyways to make it short:Syndicate is still the fastest and smoothest and 2.2 supposed to be an improvement in ui responsiveness and speed but in this case its not from what im reading so far.
Before I delete my peronal modded version of Bonsai Ext4 and flash to EB13(DK28Plus,lol) and spend a few more hours modding it,is it worth it?
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The more I read your posts the more certain I become that you are a professional troll. What do you get out of being so negative all the time?

lviv73 said:
I had to start this thread because the more I read on EB13 the more I get the feeling that its not that big of impovement over DK28.
I would at least think that they would make web browser lag free like its on Syndicate(Maybe even stock DI18),but no-that was too much to ask.
Anyways to make it short:Syndicate is still the fastest and smoothest and 2.2 supposed to be an improvement in ui responsiveness and speed but in this case its not from what im reading so far.
Before I delete my peronal modded version of Bonsai Ext4 and flash to EB13(DK28Plus,lol) and spend a few more hours modding it,is it worth it?
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Isnt it kind of early for this thread???
In the 30 minutes I've been running EB13 I havent had any issues. Browser seems fast and responsive...keyboard is much improved...and overall its quick and responsive.

swanysto said:
I don't think EB13 is an improvement over the DK28 just yet. But since the source is out, the devs will be able to improve it to a point of being superior to DK28 since they have more info.
A would think a lot of people aren't even going to upgrade to EB13 till the devs have had their hand in it. I think it is the flash freaks that will get EB13 just to get it.
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Thats what I was thinking,why they dint just release the source months ago instead of giving us this half ass update?Oh well,lets hope that we dont have to wait long for CM6 and MIUI.

Quis89 said:
Isnt it kind of early for this thread???
In the 30 minutes I've been running EB13 I havent had any issues. Browser seems fast and responsive...keyboard is much improved...and overall its quick and responsive.
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Maybe youre right.I started it because I read that web browser is chekerboarding and lagging and keyboard bugs are still there.Keyboard bugs I dont care about but browser lag I do.
Maybe you had a better expirience on your phone thats why I started this thread to hear people's opinions because not everyone knows how to update the "Right way"(Odin,reboot,3 wipes,etc,lol).

It does make me question whether wiping the phone first will make it perform better (but I wouldn't be coming from DK28, mine's just rooted stock).

Yes. It fixes the sensors, mine now read correctly and don't jump all over the place.

Browser lag? Y'all talking about the checkerboard stuff? Is that really an issue? How often are you zooming in and out to where its "annoying"? The browser in EB13 puts DK28 to sleep. Loads pages way faster than DK28. 3G also seems to go to sleep a lot quicker on EB13. Other than those two things, it kinda seems the same to me. Idk though, im gonna test Dungeon Defenders in a bit. I'd say its worth the upgrade.

DK28 is POS full of bugs... lol

How did you guys get it already?

ms79723 said:
Browser lag? Y'all talking about the checkerboard stuff? Is that really an issue? How often are you zooming in and out to where its "annoying"? The browser in EB13 puts DK28 to sleep. Loads pages way faster than DK28. 3G also seems to go to sleep a lot quicker on EB13. Other than those two things, it kinda seems the same to me. Idk though, im gonna test Dungeon Defenders in a bit. I'd say its worth the upgrade.
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Im just quoting what I read.So browser is smoother?Im on Bonsai with Dolphin HD and no chekerbording.
Is the browsing expirience like on Syndicate because to me DK28 browsing is not that good compared to Syndicate.
But I would say that I use "zoom in" function alot because I download ps3 games and movies straight to Epic and use Epic more than my laptop.

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swanysto said:
How did you guys get it already?
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really bro seriously?? sorry not to be rude but havent you read all the post everywhere??

Personally, I've been running it and for the short time I've been using it, it's very smooth. It's snappy there isn't any random lag, no glitches popping up. The stock browser is actually semi enjoyable because it's snappier than it was in DI18 and DK28. EB13 is worth the jump, I mean Rod is already working on having Genocide out for EB13 and once that happens we'll have an even snappier performance as well an influx of Roms and ports of other Froyo Roms and AOSP roms.
Just try it out and give it some time to sink in with you.

lviv73 said:
Maybe youre right.I started it because I read that web browser is chekerboarding and lagging and keyboard bugs are still there.Keyboard bugs I dont care about but browser lag I do.
Maybe you had a better expirience on your phone thats why I started this thread to hear people's opinions because not everyone knows how to update the "Right way"(Odin,reboot,3 wipes,etc,lol).
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I updated by downloading update.zip and then rebooting into stock recovery and applying it. Right enough for me.
I'm satisfied so far. It matches the performance I've become used to with DI18, so I'm not disappointed. I can view my favorite educational (read: porn) websites with flash on my phone now. My bluetooth headset just got a whole lot more useful. I can install more apps, shoving bits of them off to the SD card.
The browser does checkerboard, but not to the point where it bothers me enough to even try out another browser. I haven't had any more keyboard lag than I did with DI18, and never had any other than when the browser was first starting even then.
It's a far sight better than DK28 was when I tried it and rapidly ditched it as not up to par.
As of yet my phone is not printing money, nor do the teachers on the aforementioned educational websites offer anything more than visual, so I guess it could have been better...

I went from bonsai to eb13. I can't really complain about anything, yet. It seems pretty smooth, but I've barely had a chance to really put it through its paces. Most people on roms will probably be best off waiting for roms to update. It might be Saturday or Sunday before we start seeing rebuilt roms since this is a full framework change, so you might have to be patient. If patience isn't your thing, do a backup and switch over. You can always go back to what you have now.

LOL (for real) - thanks JMMusic for a well written and witty review of the new ROM. Someone should make (I don't feel qualified enough) a thread just for reviews/impressions/bugs of EB13, I think.

AproSamurai said:
Personally, I've been running it and for the short time I've been using it, it's very smooth. It's snappy there isn't any random lag, no glitches popping up. The stock browser is actually semi enjoyable because it's snappier than it was in DI18 and DK28. EB13 is worth the jump, I mean Rod is already working on having Genocide out for EB13 and once that happens we'll have an even snappier performance as well an influx of Roms and ports of other Froyo Roms and AOSP roms.
Just try it out and give it some time to sink in with you.
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Thanx man,thats what I been waiting to hear instead of irrelevant and negative comments.
I was thinkin "It cant be possibly worse than DK28",negative feedback I was getting is probably from people that dint do a clean update.
Alot of people on here use Titanium Backup and just flash over old rom and thats the people that have problems mostly.I always wipe everything clean before I install any rom or update and never have any problems.