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No more 2.1 rom developing?

What happened to all the 2.1 fun? A leaked 2.2 drops and all of a sudden 2.1 dev'ing is a ghost town. 2.2 leak was ok, but I prefer the flawlessness of my TW2.1 set-up.
I take it everyone moved on?

2.2 brings alot of benefits to the platform as a whole, as a result alot of developers were actually waiting on 2.2 before starting development (ie. Cyanogen - however not sure where it is heading at the moment). There are some developers who started on 2.1 just because it was all we had at that time, but now that 2.2 is available there's no point in going back.

Why not? 2.1 is stable as hell. Until CM is released I see myself staying on tw final r1.
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And...I know it is all about moving forward, but I didn't really see much difference on a 2.2 rom. Our devs are so good, no discernible difference was to be had (for me).

TheSneakerWhore said:
And...I know it is all about moving forward, but I didn't really see much difference on a 2.2 rom. Our devs are so good, no discernible difference was to be had (for me).
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Just because you didn't notice the differences, doesn't mean they are not there. Flash player, copy/paste features, voice actions, etc...

I know it sounds silly, but I really like the drag tool when you are editing a line of text with the little drop down.

Like you said, 2.1 was already, "flawlessness" and "stable as hell" why mess with something thats not broken and room for little improvement as opposed to 2.2, where the development ceiling is much higher

Yea...I like seeing progress and will update to 2.2 once things get a bit more stable (admittedly I haven't used the new features--I'm pretty boring). I just feel like sometimes everyone looks to the future asap and once a dead horse is almost beaten no more support goes that way and those who like to play it safe only have a few flavors left.
I just really like 2.1--and would want a 2.2+ that makes me smile just as wide.

there are several 2.2 roms that are stable. i have tried them all and i am currently running obsidian v5 for now. having flash and all of the other goodies makes it worth it.

kizer said:
I know it sounds silly, but I really like the drag tool when you are editing a line of text with the little drop down.
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+1!! such a small feature, but it is so useful!!!
TheSneakerWhore said:
Yea...I like seeing progress and will update to 2.2 once things get a bit more stable (admittedly I haven't used the new features--I'm pretty boring). I just feel like sometimes everyone looks to the future asap and once a dead horse is almost beaten no more support goes that way and those who like to play it safe only have a few flavors left.
I just really like 2.1--and would want a 2.2+ that makes me smile just as wide.
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there are plenty of solid 2.1 roms. when tw has a bionix final and a fusion that's either final or close, plus aosp like roms, plus all of eugene's roms, 2.1 has been done thoroughly.
i'd recommend you try one of the good, new 2.2s like axura, obsidian, or macnut and see if it changes your mind. it's not just new features of 2.2, i went from 1.2ghz oc/uv core kernel with fusion to stock kernel obsidian, both with no lagfixes, and was benchmarking about exactly the same, which i found pretty impressive.

hows ur battery
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I tried onyx...it was really nice.
I tried mac nut...it was nice as well.
I just love my bionix final and core r310 more. It's just me being picky...when I had a mt3gs I had tons of options. Samsung has screwed the pooch and thus we are limited. Like I said earlier, I'm kind of boring...i like flashing, but rarely use things to the entire extent.
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established said:
hows ur battery
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1day 13hours 50min since unplugged (at full charge, i'm reconditioning the battery) with 35% remaining... with what's probably considered light usage: some web browsing (mostly on wifi), moderate texting, a little angry birds and sudokus, etc.
i'm using axura 2.0.4, first time i've flashed axura and i've been very impressed with it.

established said:
hows ur battery
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Great!
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kizer said:
I know it sounds silly, but I really like the drag tool when you are editing a line of text with the little drop down.
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+1. I love that too.
And yeah, honestly, even though it's a "leak", 2.2 has made it to the stable levels of 2.1 ROMS. I've been using Axura since it came out, and even the first build was just great, and now everything seems to have worked itself out, I literally don't have one feature I cannot do on this ROM, everything works. And if for some reason something doesn't, it must not be that important to me because I haven't noticed haha.

Lol this is an insult someone complaining for old firmware..... how retarded move on everything your had in 2.1 plus more in 2.2 lol
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ColbyRyptos said:
Lol this is an insult someone complaining for old firmware..... how retarded move on everything your had in 2.1 plus more in 2.2 lol
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Eh, the term "leak" scares people off, including myself actually. But once I saw so many positive comments about Axura that's when I finally took the dive. I know people seem to love Obsidian, but everytime I enter that forum it's just posts upon posts of people not only having problems, but with bricked phones/having to odin to stock/ etc etc. I highly recommend Axura, I've never used Odin to recover or get anything working. It's real easy, and even more rewarding.
PS This isn't a post to spark defense for Obsidian, obviously it works for some people, but just my observations.

kinda goes without saying, but: you are always free to carry on the 2.1 development torch if you think it's a worthwhile venture.

TheSneakerWhore said:
Why not? 2.1 is stable as hell. Until CM is released I see myself staying on tw final r1.
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I agree...at this stage 2.1 baked firmwares are stable as hell...which is also why there's little reason to bother tweaking them further.
It's really about resource and time management I think. We're weeks away from 2.1 being a distant memory officially, so there's little reason to play in that pond anymore.

To beat the dead horse even more:
Not much more can be done with Eclair.... and frankly, now that there is a froyo (with JIT compiler) why would you want to keep wasting time on it? I understand (and agree) that the Eclair builds we have are incredible ones... and there is of course things that could make them better, but why bother?
Froyo is a daily driver, incredibly stable and it brings a lot more to the table. Any developer is going to want to play with the new toy, and this is it. When there is another leak or OTA, THAT will be the new toy. And THIS leak did come from a T Mobile employee (who will continue to go unknown for his services) so there is no real worry issue here.
People on XDA tend to want this too... I flashed my phone probably 7 times in the past 2 weeks. Not because I needed to, but because there was a new rom or a new update... always going to want the latest/greatest.
Also, I am positive my froyo is faster than any eclair you have, it has very good battery life and it can do more....
REALLY wanting to see Axura 2.0.5 available....

Is anyone impressed with froyo so far?

I think having flash is cool. Doesn't seem as good to me as the oc'ed dl09 blackhole I was running before. Seems glitchy and temperamental. I haven't run one rom for a few days to let things settle in but that's because it just isn't doing it for me yet.
Maybe when the kinks are worked out and there is an overclocked voodoo option it will be more to my liking.
Some of the controls do not seem as intuitive either such as settings that have to be activated through an action or haptic having to be turned on but vibration intensity set to zero to turn it off when typing in different apps.
I see why verizon and samsung don't throw it on the market as is.
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Im running Rubik's and am extremely impressed. I feel like it does everything faster. Only thing I find that has taken a step backwards is the web browser. It seems a little slower and doesn't autosize websites when I double tap.
Really that's my only thing ... I'm not seeing a lot of the bugs that have been reported by users.
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i second the rubik's post. but alltogether, froyo is kind of...
lame. everyone said we shouldn't get our panties in a bunch over it. and they were right. it seems to cause just about as many problems as it fixed.
so again, i guess we go back to hating samsung code dev. why can't this just be a google native phone? when android started that was the idea right?
(of course this is most likely due to the difference in hardware, but its still fun to blame samsung).

I actually find the browser to definitely load sites a bit faster than Eclair's -- which should be expected since a browser performance boost is one of Froyo's top-billed features.
That said, I think people need to remember that this (DL30) is almost certainly not a release that will ever see the official light of day. Simply put, we're running a leak that was never supposed to get out. There are obvious bugs (like long-pressing search) and quite likely more than a few non-obvious bugs too. Heck, Droid Life already has pictures of a newer Froyo ROM with all the expected Verizon bloatware (Blockbuster, Bing, etc.), so that just adds support to the idea that DL30 simply isn't ready for primetime.
But I do have to say this: whether on stock Android or not, Froyo does offer a measurable performance boost over Eclair. Anyone who says otherwise really should take a look at the benchmarks performed by quite literally every major tech blog and news site out there. Of course it's not like getting a new phone, but it truly is a noticeable speed boost. So why aren't we seeing much if anything noticeable now? That should be obvious: bloatware aside, once again, we're simply running an unfinished ROM.

Froyo is great. Please don't complain about it. People worked hard for this. We don't need your discouragement, this will develope more, just give it time
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The wait for Froyo's feature set was for me, secondary to the wait for the development boost. The guys on our forum do great things, but noone wants to be working with 2.1.
This brings us to the proper foundation to build from.
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It's OK.
It only confirmed what i already knew. That our XDA developers are the true innovators and the only ROMS i care about are theirs.
I was one of those that frequently said Froyo was not a big deal. I installed it, and my thoughts are mixed.
Was it worth the wait? well there are things that i liked and things not to like.
Here's what i liked. For starters, I have a galaxy tab and when i installed my games onto my Fascinate they didn't work. I suspected it was because of Froyo 2.2. I was right. They all came to life on Froyo. Pocket legends HD is spectacular. I also am able to use Kongregate now as well as Hulu (with mod). The email reader was slicker and the facebook integration smoother.
Here's what i disliked. While i've had no bugs (i re-installed a stock image first), it is slower, less bells and whistles than my previously fabulous Custom Rom's and themes. and of course back to bloated touchwiz junk. I did put adw, but it still seems slower than before. Most of the upgrades were under the hood and to be honest i never really felt them.
I miss my custom themes, but for now i'll keep this froyo and wait for themes ported to it to give it my final opinion.

Froyo delivered what I wanted it to deliver:
- A GMail app that has almost all of the features I need
- A contact list that sorts by last name
- The ability to move apps to my SD card
- Fully functioning Flash
I am happy....

Slower then my dj05....period.

Falcyn said:
I actually find the browser to definitely load sites a bit faster than Eclair's -- which should be expected since a browser performance boost is one of Froyo's top-billed features.
That said, I think people need to remember that this (DL30) is almost certainly not a release that will ever see the official light of day. Simply put, we're running a leak that was never supposed to get out. There are obvious bugs (like long-pressing search) and quite likely more than a few non-obvious bugs too. Heck, Droid Life already has pictures of a newer Froyo ROM with all the expected Verizon bloatware (Blockbuster, Bing, etc.), so that just adds support to the idea that DL30 simply isn't ready for primetime.
But I do have to say this: whether on stock Android or not, Froyo does offer a measurable performance boost over Eclair. Anyone who says otherwise really should take a look at the benchmarks performed by quite literally every major tech blog and news site out there. Of course it's not like getting a new phone, but it truly is a noticeable speed boost. So why aren't we seeing much if anything noticeable now? That should be obvious: bloatware aside, once again, we're simply running an unfinished ROM.
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According to quadrant...I'm running 115mhz slower on dl30 with a decrease of about 3 mflops...so I'd say it is not faster. It's actually very...apparent

Overall, I'm happy with it. Selecting text and cut/copy/paste is vastly improved, it's got built-in screen capture, better multitouch, better g-mail client and I can now use the full Skype app.
The little glitches need to be accepted in so far as we *are* using a leak. There are reasons Verizon hasn't released this yet, and chances are, these are those reasons.

so far I'm loving the 2.2 leak. Working great.

Pfredd said:
Froyo delivered what I wanted it to deliver:
- A GMail app that has almost all of the features I need
- A contact list that sorts by last name
- The ability to move apps to my SD card
- Fully functioning Flash
I am happy....
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Moving apps to SD card
is there are ROM that has this feature included?

Right now everything is definitely faster than my completely stock fascinate. The only thing that doesn't work is the included email and Google maps and navigation which is a little annoying

Are you kidding? Flash, new Gmail, sort contacts, add ringtones without having to create a phone contact, and Chrome to Phone. I can't tell you how often I use Chrome to Phone. Anytime I need to install a zip, I just send it right to my phone. Overall, I have to say 2.2 is a very nice improvement over 2.1.

For me, the DL09 w/voodoo was the best overall Fascinate experience... but coming from a Froyo'd OG Droid... I really missed Chrome to Phone and Flash... so that's why I am running DL30.
What I am hoping for? DL09 Voodoo performance with DL30 features... I am gonna stick with DL30 for now (as switching back from DL09 Voodoo bricked my phone) and hope that we can get Voodoo like performance soon enough...
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I did the stock (rooted) leak and then went to Superclean for Froyo. Superclean can be modded with blackhole elements and other tweaks you can find in the forum. Bottom line? I get faster performance and less lag. The browser works faster and it is a cleaner integration. My only issue now is battery life. I was getting very good battery life with my old setup. So I wiped bat stats, reinstalled clean after wiping everything, etc. and it still doesn't seem right. When I check usage it seems to overly point out display (like 95% of battery usage). I'm not sure what's going on but I'm up to about nine hours of battery life so it's good enough. I'm hoping some of these things will get resolved as time goes by. Any wisdom, let me know. Overall, froyo works well and will only get better.
One note. I was noticing the browser issue as well. Go to the settings in the browser and that will take care of it. Apparently "resize" isn't the default as it should be.

The Froyo Gmail app allows me to send outbound mail from all the addresses I have set up in my Gmail account - a significant improvement from the pre-Froyo version which only sends outbound mail from your main Gmail address.

onemotodroid said:
Moving apps to SD card
is there are ROM that has this feature included?
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The stock ROM has it. You need to go to Settings / Applications / Manage Applications. Click on the app you want to move. If the app supports moving, the "Move to SD card" button will be active. Just press that button.

Now that I have Blackhole 4.1 the experience is getting better. Seems to be running smoother.
Can't wait for voodoo and oc'ed kernels.

DI18 2.1 unrooted > DK28 2.2 rooted

I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.

huh? i've only had my phone since tuesday, i haven't rooted it as of yet... but i wanted to see what that froyo is all about.

Don't do it. It's fun to play with, but like the OP said, if you want something that works reliably and well, stay stock.

Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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I have nothing against people who experiment with different baked ROMs on their phones--after all, where would we be without 'em?--but the performance of stock 2.1 on my Epic was already solid enough that I only really felt I needed to root for a few specific apps. I think any flashing I was going to do was always going to wait until official 2.2 was out and more development is done. I am jonesing for the new features and hopefully speed but am patient.

lynyrd65 said:
Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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Agree bonsai is fantastic, no bugs what so ever and very clean and fast. Way better then 2.1 stock battery life ia about the same.
i wont go back to d118, i will miss hulu and, humans vs, aliens and andy 83 those apps only work on 2.2 and my phone has been running fantastic and way better then d118.
GPS works better!
Wifi Works perfect!
Orientation switch is fast!!
And what ever other bugs people are having im having 0

I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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I want to go back to 2.1, but the ONLY thing that stops me is that I NEED GPS.
GPS on 2.1 is poop. I would have a hard time finding my peepee if it weren't for GPS.

I just did the exact same thing!
Running Nebula, was getting weird issues, so I went back to Syndicate with Xtreme kernel v1.2.
Ahh, everything is so snappy. I'll stick with this for a while.
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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It sounds like most of the people who are noticing problems are using nebula. You guys should give bonsai a try.

Ryjabo said:
I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.
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Lolol! I have been saying exactly this for as long as I remember. Froyo is freaking jerky. The animation transitions are not smooth.
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Flashing to Midnight ROM 3.2 is the best thing I ever did.
I love my Epic 4G…I loved it with Eclair, and I am now using midNIGHT 3.2 BYOR and I love it. It’s benchmark scores are twice as fast as Eclair, and you can tell how fast and snappy the phone is. Here is a list of the things I like best that Froyo was needed for.
1. Chrome to Phone – Huge time saver and way more useful than I thought it was going to be, and I thought it would be useful, lol
2. Flash 10.1
3. The apps that needed Froyo for enhancement… Gmail, Youtube, Winamp (there is a station I like on Shoutcast and Winamp required Froyo for Shoutcast)
4. Google Docs – being able to edit Google Docs on the go. The reason I wanted a phone with a keyboard was for doing long emails and editing documents and spreadsheets. The on-screen keyboard is OK, but takes up a lot if real estate.
5. Moving apps to the SD Card – I am an app junkie and I need the space, lol
There are more things, but those are the most important to me. It is was like I got a new phone for a second time. Some of the other things I think that help make the phone better that are not Froyo “items” are the Gingerbread Keyboard (really, really good, better than iOS in my opinion), ASOP Lock Screen, and the EXT4 file system.
I still liked the phone when it had Eclair, and I wouldn’t go back and buy a different phone (and I like it on Froyo even better), it is nice hardware, awesome 5-row keyboard, and it’s AMOLED screen rocks and everyone who see’s it immediately compares it to their own back lit LCD screens, and develops a serious case of envy, lol. I am old enough to know that companies will be companies and will always make and break promises(Apple customers have to put up with a company that said their alarm was fixed in November to have it happen again in January and tells them they are holding their phone wrong). It would be nice if they always kept their promises, but they can’t. If companies were 100% honest, no one would buy their products just like if politicians were 100% honest, no one would vote for them. It would be nice to think we still would, but if we would….wouldn’t there already be 100% honest companies and politicians, lol

Zeinzu said:
I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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Agreed.
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If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.

hazridi said:
If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.
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+1 bonsai runs way better then 2.1 and bettery life us slightly better...
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Been running TrulyEpic 1.5 and quite pleased with the performance, features, battery-life, etc. I really really like that it now boots in < 30 seconds. (I swap batteries instead of charging, so quick boot times are especially nice).
2.1 Eclair simply unusable because of the Calendar and Bluetooth Voice Search bugs.
But beyond that you're just wrong on performance in Eclair vs Froyo.

How many of you are happy with EB13?

I updated my Epic on the day EB13 was released. I used the update.zip using the stock recovery on my stock/rooted DI18 (no data/cache wipes before updating) which kept all my data and apps intact. After the update, the only problems I had were the one related to the camera (video lag in low light and still camera FC in sport mode), but after the kernel fix was introduced (thanks to mkasick) I have had absolutely ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NO problems. Granted I am still using basically the stock EB13 rooted only with Launcher Pro, but everything has worked as it should (GPS, SMS, MMS, video recording, camera, music player, SD card, etc.). The only issue for me is probably the checkerboarding on the stock browser which is not a big deal for me anyways.
How many of you have been happy with your EB13 upgrade experience?

I am waiting for a custom ROM.

Mine worked good on stock and even better using the genocide kernel.
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I'm running a beta build of a custom rom and I couldn't be happier. I'm not having any of the issues reported
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I've been very happy with the upgrade, I haven't ran into any problems with this build. Now I'm just waiting for the developers to really start pushing out their releases! Dying to get my hands on a official CM6.2 and MiUi!
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Already running Midnight rom with the Genocide kernel. Getting great battery life and my GPS definitely feels improved. Haven't dropped signal during nav yet (knock on wood)
Can't wait for more Roms and especially updated Cyanogen and Miui like above.

Running EB13 with midNIGHT ROM 4.1....my phone runs great, better than when it was on a DK28 mod

Mine runs great all stock EB13

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Mine worked good on stock and even better using the genocide kernel.
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Whats the genocide kernel? what advantages does it have over the stock eb13 kernel?

shahin26 said:
Whats the genocide kernel? what advantages does it have over the stock eb13 kernel?
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The Genocide Kernel, is a kernel made my one of the Devs here. You can find it's thread in the Development section for more details.
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I was using stock EB13 with no problems..today I flashed the genocide kernel since I figure it can't hurt to have more battery life...
As for checker-boarding on the browser..coming from a TP2..I hardly call that checkerboarding lol

as for the checkerboarding browser, does anyone know if that is only on the stock browser, or others such as Dolphin as well?

Running EB13 stock w/genocide, no complaints. I use the miren browser as my default.
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I flashed eb13 with the samsung exe and immediately got root access and changed over to deodexed/ext4 and with the lastest genocide kernel .... close to perfect ... with the overclock and pretty heavy use battery life is darn good, amazingly. My battery app estimates 11.5 hrs @ 58%. I'm constantly picking the thing up and using it today. All apps run fine and now the browser is substantially faster than the wifes laptop! Was just on the gamestop site with a flash game review playing along side a bunch of animated adds and it still played great. 1375/3020 smartbench. This is all the "phone" I'll need for some time to come! Since the camera fix in genocide kernel, all regrets are gone. Plus, if you love video media like I do, you MUST have 2.2 as the video decoding and audio decoding are sgnificantly improved. 2.1 would stutter a bit with very high bit rate stuff. 2.2 makes the best quality video play FLAWLESSLY. Never a dropped frame. Even @2mbit/sec. Watching a movie on my phone is nearly as pleasing as my well calibrated big screen.
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EB13 is pretty good. Except for the bt voice dialing not working. If you don't have this issue what update method and what rom are you running???
Epic 4g

I'm happy. the battery is lasting for up to 24 hours now. I even slept through the night without charging it and woke up to a not dead phone. oh the possibilities

stock eb13 w root and cam patch, couldnt b more pleased w my phone

Not me. Its seems much better at first. But when you start getting random fc's here and there it tells you somethings wrong. In all honestly I think 2.1 eclair ran this phone with ease like a current machine would run winxp. No problems and everythings snappy. Works the way its suppose to. Throw win7 in and now youve complicated things by adding in bore instruction sets that might conflict. Not to say that it isn't gonna work well but we can clearly see sprint was full of **** when they said they were thoroughly testing for bugs. Build the is from the ground up with gingerbread. Until that happens were gonna keep getting updates that fix **** instead of updates that turn our epics for the better. Its what this hardware deserves. Next year when tegra 2's are mainstream phonemena hummingbird will be the mid level tier. Even with 2.2 I still think this hardware has more to give.
My 2 cents.
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RushAOZ said:
Not me. Its seems much better at first. But when you start getting random fc's here and there it tells you somethings wrong. In all honestly I think 2.1 eclair ran this phone with ease like a current machine would run winxp. No problems and everythings snappy. Works the way its suppose to. Throw win7 in and now youve complicated things by adding in bore instruction sets that might conflict. Not to say that it isn't gonna work well but we can clearly see sprint was full of **** when they said they were thoroughly testing for bugs. Build the is from the ground up with gingerbread. Until that happens were gonna keep getting updates that fix **** instead of updates that turn our epics for the better. Its what this hardware deserves. Next year when tegra 2's are mainstream phonemena hummingbird will be the mid level tier. Even with 2.2 I still think this hardware has more to give.
My 2 cents.
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That's impossible in all honesty. With the way people were crying about the 2.2 update to build something from kernel up and redo it people would be crying "gingerbread is taking too long" screw Samsung, and Sprint...

i odin'd back to DI18 a day before EB13 and only restored contacts.
once EB13 dropped, i wiped everything 3 times w/ clockwork, upgraded via the update.zip method. Then did the 1 click root, and manually re-installed all my apps etc.
The one thing that really kills the 'new' froyo for me is the bluetooth problems still being present like on DK28. I got so damn irritated w/ DK28's bluetooth problems that i actually went back to 2.1
Now that i'm using EN13, I'm still pretty honked off but it hasn't irritated me enough yet to go back to eclair.. depends on how flaky the bluetooth becomes.
So far, I'm running stock EB13, 1 click root, genocide kernel installed yesterday) and gonna gauge battery life.
I'm really wanting to try out the MIUI and/or cyanogenmod once they're a little less buggy.. the devs are making great progress, but i need a fairly non-buggy phone for work so that's why i'm waiting (not complaining.. i experiment on the weekends w/ ROMs and such)
my .02

Still using Enom's The Official. Anyone else?

I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well. Great ROMs both. But at the end of the day my preference is still Enom's due to the ease of setting up a2sd and dalvik cache locations right from inside the modded spare parts, the ease of installing mods like FM radio, T-Mobile WiFi calling, dsp manager, HTC sense camera, audio boost kernel, HTC sense music and games, all right through the spare parts. I know that cyanogenmod can now do all these things (apart from apps2ext) but I like the implementation and ease in enom's. Also the ability to control CPU speeds and whatnot from spare parts as well.
The one thing which I don't understand though is performance. I'm not talking about benchmarks. I'm talking about noticing it in browser scrolling performance. Using dolphin mini in all ROMs. For some reason I find that Enom's ROM takes the cake there even over cyanogenmod. And I don't understand why. I'm using Enom's stock kernel and my CPU settings are very stock (998mhz max, 245mhz min, on demand governor). But scrolling on a webpage for most sites is like iPhone smooth on Enom's and the others is always very slightly stuttery. You have to really look to notice but the difference is there. This is with everything the same on all ROMs, flash on demand, text reflow not enabled.
Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.

I am also still using the Enomther's rom
I think this is the fastest and the most efficient rom.

do you guys still watch vhs?

ksc6000 said:
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well. Great ROMs both. But at the end of the day my preference is still Enom's due to the ease of setting up a2sd and dalvik cache locations right from inside the modded spare parts, the ease of installing mods like dsp manager, HTC sense camera, audio boost kernel, HTC sense music and games, all right through the spare parts. I know that cyanogenmod can now do all these things (apart from apps2ext) but I like the implementation and ease in enom's. Also the ability to control CPU speeds and whatnot from spare parts as well.
The one thing which I don't understand though is performance. I'm not talking about benchmarks. I'm talking about noticing it in browser scrolling performance. Using dolphin mini in all ROMs. For some reason I find that Enom's ROM takes the cake there even over cyanogenmod. And I don't understand why. I'm using Enom's stock kernel and my CPU settings are very stock (998mhz max, 245mhz min, on demand governor). But scrolling on a webpage for most sites is like iPhone smooth on Enom's and the others is always very slightly stuttery. You have to really look to notice but the difference is there. This is with everything the same on all ROMs, flash on demand, text reflow not enabled.
Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
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Still on Enom myself. It just works, always. It never acts funky, no spontaneous reboots, no wonk, no chasing the latest nightly hoping some random bug is fixed..
I use CM7 on my tablet, but I need my phone to just work and it does rather well on Enom.
b1337 said:
do you guys still watch vhs?
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Go play in traffic.

ksc6000 said:
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well.
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Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
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Still on Enom's but I'm looking to switch to the Gingerbread.
I'm waiting for the next stable Cyanogen (without the so called wonk). I think I'll have to do a lot of tweaking to get it to the state I want. Enom's ROM needed very little to give me an aesthetically pleasing style. Cyanogen is pretty chaotic. (I think if it could be changed it was ... whether it needed to be or not!).
I'd like to find another ROM that was like Enom's in that it added sensible, useful enhancements and was still usable as a phone for everyday use... suggestions welcome!

khaytsus said:
Still on Enom myself. It just works, always. It never acts funky, no spontaneous reboots, no wonk, no chasing the latest nightly hoping some random bug is fixed..
I use CM7 on my tablet, but I need my phone to just work and it does rather well on Enom.
Go play in traffic.
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it was joke you douche go play with a horse ****

b1337 said:
do you guys still watch vhs?
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Lol. No seriously though,
Are any of you noticing the performance difference? I mean try loading up androidcentral.com for example. And just scroll up and down. It's buttery smooth on Enom's ROM for me, whereas Geo's, Cyanogenmods, and the MIUIs are almost there, and to the untrained eye they are very smooth, but if you're looking for it, you can see the difference. (Using dolphin mini, no text reflow, plugins on demand).

vk2bea said:
Still on Enom's but I'm looking to switch to the Gingerbread.
I'm waiting for the next stable Cyanogen (without the so called wonk).
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The call wonk has been fixed for a few weeks at least now. The only glaring bug I have using build #87 is the lock screen wake/black screen, but that only takes 5 seconds till it turns right back on after waking it again. I don't know if that has been fixed but I have had no call problems at all.

b1337 said:
it was joke you douche go play with a horse ****
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You're still here? Adults talking, go play outside.

khaytsus said:
You're still here? Adults talking, go play outside.
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You sir are a ****ing idiot, get some more posts them talk **** u ****ing noob
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I mostly used enom till I moved over to the sgs2. That was before the wonk was fixed which I found pretty annoying. If it hadnt been for that I would have stayed on cm as it brought a lot to the table but for me the fundementals are important and one thing about enoms rom was that as already stated "it just works". I miss him and hope he got past the life issues he was facing.

krabman said:
I mostly used enom till I moved over to the sgs2. That was before the wonk was fixed which I found pretty annoying. If it hadnt been for that I would have stayed on cm as it brought a lot to the table but for me the fundementals are important and one thing about enoms rom was that as already stated "it just works". I miss him and hope he got past the life issues he was facing.
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Agreed. 10char