SGS and Lagfixes are driving me up the wall - Galaxy S I9000 General

With all the new lagfix trial-and-error, my SGS is still lagging and not error free. I'm about to get rid of it, unless there's another solution to fix the Lag. Why did Samsung come up with this expensive unit, that runs slower than my HD2 running Android?

Stock 2.2 have been very smooth for me compared to the stock 2.1 ROM I am using. Ive found that the OCLF has been pretty good for me on 2.1, although does need a reboot every 250 hours or so.

change your twlauncher30.apk to a more compact one?

compuse said:
change your twlauncher30.apk to a more compact one?
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which one would you recommend? i tried ADW and Launcher Pro and still experiencing laggy, especially when typing and looking up files. Any other inferior launchers would not look nice and defeats the purpose of having a "Samsung Galaxy S"

_dsk_ said:
Stock 2.2 have been very smooth for me compared to the stock 2.1 ROM I am using. Ive found that the OCLF has been pretty good for me on 2.1, although does need a reboot every 250 hours or so.
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Thanks, but I have been using stock 2.2 as well. I tried OCLF, VooDoo and SpeedMOD and screwed up my SGS many times. Luckily, I was able to bring it back to life again.

UPDATE: I was able to flash XXJPA ROM via Kies using the 1.6 patch and installed Z4root & OCLF 2.2 and my Quadrant score is 1600+ on first run and 1900+ on second run. Hip Hip Hooray! will test it out for the next couple of days to see if it keeps up the speed.
Thank you

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Is it worth going from stock to MoDaCo?

Hello-
First off, please excuse my n00bness - I'm from the world of Windows Mobile hacking, and this Android stuff is really confusing me.
I've been tolerating stock for a while, but the slowness is really getting to me - today I clocked my Hero at 12 seconds to wake up from standby, which is just unacceptable. I'd like to know if there are any significant speed benefits to going from stock to the latest MoDaCo rom? Are there any downsides? I read the post over at modaco.com, but couldn't see any "known issues".
Thanks for any input,
TM
Take the plunge.
I went from stock to Fresh and overlayed Modaco. My uptime shot to 90%, 80% and stuck at 70%.
I reflashed to Stock then back to Modaco. I am now at around 15% uptime. I removed the bloatware from Sprint and LOVE the speed of this phone now. Its what I expected when I bought it.
I have no doubt that you'll see a speed increase with Modaco. Especially if you remove the sprint apps once you load Modaco.
Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.
it's worth it to switch to any custom rom. bluetooth is just something thats messed up with our 1.5 builds.
ffolkes said:
Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.
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you will notice a big difference switching to modaco 2.2... and im not experiencing any BT issues at all... matter or fact, im not experiencing ANY issues with anything using this rom...
Heck, anything is better than stock.
especially since we have a custom kernel now its definitely worth it to go to any custom rom, especially modaco 2.2
Im using fresh. I used the kitchen to root my phone and installed 1.1. No problems so far except that the voice recorder app keep crashing for some reason. I did an upgrade without wiping though so that might be my problem.
Its a lot faster and the tether app is awesome!
Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?
I ran stok for about 6 hours and decided that I didnt pay that much money for a smart phone that was that slow.
I flashed Fresh 1.0 to start and I have tried just about all the roms that are out there. Including modaco 2.2 and it may just be that I started with fresh but I always seem to go back to it over the rest, and add onto that the modaco kernel with compcache and then doing the config tweak found here my phone just flies now.
I now have it set to where I feel a phone at this price point should be to start.
edit: to remove the apps follow the instructions found here
ffolkes said:
Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?
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Use the Fresh Kitchen to pull any you don't want.
You know what? I've flashed MoDaCo's ROM before, but it was just too much like stock (except for the obvious speed increases). I flashed Fresh 1.1, and loved it because it had the speed of MoDaCo's, plus the Espresso UI. Then I recently flashed Gumbo Kernel to my phone, and omgwtfzorz my phone is RIDICULOUSLY fast. Not noticeably, but RIDICULOUSLY. I can't believe you've been living with stock for this long >.< Custom ROM's and kernels are necessary for this phone haha.

Buggy Froyo DXJPA

Hello all, I updated my SGS to froyo DXJPA via kies about two weeks ago, and my overall impression is that this release is buggier than eclair.
After the update process was completed I did a factory reset, but still out feels buggy and clunkish. Apps FCed randomly, happened most of the time to twidroyd and gmail, the gallery does that too but not as often. Launcher pro's 3D app drawer does not run as smooth, and occasionally installed apps icons doesn't show up in the drawer.
I wonder, does these happen to anybody else? Is there any solution to these? Would you mind sharing your experience here? Thanks!
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Can I recommend darkys 4.1 rom? Seems most stable right now. Its not fastest like ultimate rom but its pretty dang stable
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Really? More stable than stock? Interesting..thanks for the info! I'll take a look. Would prefer to stay stock for a while longer though :-/
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nobody else having these problems? it's just my SGS then? really?
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Hello all, I updated my SGS to froyo DXJPA via kies about two weeks ago, and my overall impression is that this release is buggier than eclair.
After the update process was completed I did a factory reset, but still out feels buggy and clunkish. Apps FCed randomly, happened most of the time to twidroyd and gmail, the gallery does that too but not as often. Launcher pro's 3D app drawer does not run as smooth, and occasionally installed apps icons doesn't show up in the drawer.
I wonder, does these happen to anybody else? Is there any solution to these? Would you mind sharing your experience here? Thanks!
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I assumed you were on a stock DX series ROM before the upgrade? I also upgraded DXJPA, but I did it via odin with repartitioning. While I agree that DXJPA is much more laggy compared to Eclair, I do not have any issues with apps FC-ing. My phone is also a lot faster and smoother after flashing to the kernel in my signature and applying the lagfix.
Seifer1975,
How do you find the battery life with your kernel?
Thanks!
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Seifer1975,
How do you find the battery life with your kernel?
Thanks!
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Battery life is quite bad actually. I lose on average 2-4% battery per hour, without doing anything. But some people have reported very good battery life with the kernel, so I am not sure if it's due to that. But the speed is really good, and since I charge my phone all the time, it doesn't really bothers me so much.
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I assumed you were on a stock DX series ROM before the upgrade? I also upgraded DXJPA, but I did it via odin with repartitioning. While I agree that DXJPA is much more laggy compared to Eclair, I do not have any issues with apps FC-ing. My phone is also a lot faster and smoother after flashing to the kernel in my signature and applying the lagfix.
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yep, from DXJG4 to DXJPA. hmm.. perhaps I should try flashing via Odin.. do you use any lagfix by any chance? just read your signature
side note: your avatar's freaking me out man
To the OP,
I've upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 DXJPA and have not been having FC's (using 16 Gb stock Galaxy S and upgraded through Kies). I did install OCLF 2 and am using lag fix and the mem tool very early on. Been testing for stability by not installing too much but pretty am using as is now. Am also using Launcher Pro.
FYI, I was getting FC's before on 2.1 but I think this was because was starting to lag again. Anyway, all good now.
Z
You need to do factory reset to get rid off those FCs. Or, you can try to clear app data first. It works for me.
Edit: be sure to back up your data/rom first.
i`m just upgraded Eclair DXJG4 to DXJPA just a week...i`ve not seen any trouble on it and of course i`m upgrading it using Kies...the most dangerous way..
no problem about FC...maybe because i wiped all of my data after update...
before this i`m using OCLF but now i`m flashed my kernel using YA-OK! 1.40 @1.2ghz from zenkinz with stock DXJPA rom

How to achieve a FAST SGS with STOCK FROYO

To those, like me, who were disappointed with Froyo.
After doing a fair bit a tinkering and research experimenting for a month. I managed to find the BEST solution for people who don't want to use custom roms. Yet wanting a similar yet better mobile experience they had with 2.1 eclair.
After a factory reset.
Latest Voodoo Lagfix via Odin |or| ryanZA's OneClickLagFix your choice
1. root - z4root app from market.
2. ryanZA's OCLF app
- Alter minfree. Set to Aggressive
- Change Scheduler. Set to deadline
3. SGSTools.
- Upgrade stock apps.
+ Modded Contacts app showing all letters
+ Stock browser with useragent setting
+ Faster TouchWizLauncher(GTG) <--- TOUCHWIZ CAN't GET ANY SNAPPIER >
- GPS fix
Just like (2.1 with OLCF) Fast, snappy, loving it
u forgot to add:
+ use is for two weeks then redo the process
Best is to reboot everyday.
We don't have the same definition of "Stock"...
Anyway, I'm using jk4 now, realy stock (no root,no lagfix) and it's fast and fluid. What more do I need?? Higher benchmark? That's about the only reason I'd do a lag fix...!
Doing all of the above = might as well install Doc's ROMs
t1mman said:
We don't have the same definition of "Stock"...
Anyway, I'm using jk4 now, realy stock (no root,no lagfix) and it's fast and fluid. What more do I need?? Higher benchmark? That's about the only reason I'd do a lag fix...!
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hi t1mman, is JK4 Froyo 2.2 or Eclair? mine is running JPA now and it's way too sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow and i'm ready to downgrade. thanks
traiviet said:
hi t1mman, is JK4 Froyo 2.2 or Eclair? mine is running JPA now and it's way too sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow and i'm ready to downgrade. thanks
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it's Froyo
Can you point me to GPS fix please ?
teryz said:
Can you point me to GPS fix please ?
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It's in the menu of SGSTools.
Before going modding, try some optimized kernels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856151
dk206 said:
To those, like me, who were disappointed with Froyo.
After doing a fair bit a tinkering and research experimenting for a month. I managed to find the BEST solution for people who don't want to use custom roms. Yet wanting a similar yet better mobile experience they had with 2.1 eclair.
After a factory reset.
Latest Voodoo Lagfix via Odin |or| ryanZA's OneClickLagFix your choice
1. root - z4root app from market.
2. ryanZA's OCLF app
- Alter minfree. Set to Aggressive
- Change Scheduler. Set to deadline
3. SGSTools.
- Upgrade stock apps.
+ Modded Contacts app showing all letters
+ Stock browser with useragent setting
+ Faster TouchWizLauncher(GTG) <--- TOUCHWIZ CAN't GET ANY SNAPPIER >
- GPS fix
Just like (2.1 with OLCF) Fast, snappy, loving it
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Unfortunately for me, I cant apply these settings even after reboot. I followed all teh procedure and it is still the same.
i changed the lounger to the modded one but it gave me a lot of forced closes. ..(not apps the lounger just force closed) so i had to fire my terminal thing up and change it back
kind of sad because it looked great and was butter smooth
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gbohm said:
i changed the lounger to the modded one but it gave me a lot of forced closes. ..(not apps the lounger just force closed) so i had to fire my terminal thing up and change it back
kind of sad because it looked great and was butter smooth
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or you can just go to settings -> applications -> manage applications -> ALL tab and find the launcher, force close and clear settings. For any applications you get force close on. it fixes
With hardcore's latest kernel everything is just as snappy as it should be for me I'm happy with the overall performance of the device, no hang up or major lag so far...
PaulForde said:
With hardcore's latest kernel everything is just as snappy as it should be for me I'm happy with the overall performance of the device, no hang up or major lag so far...
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you forgot to add something, hardcore's latest kernel improved GPS. i am able to lock up to 11 sat within 10 secs.
If your going to change the kernel, root, lagfix, gpsfix it ... why not just try for a custom ROM?
I do think we have different notions of the word "stock"
This isny "stock" at all... A good custom ROM like Doc's are more "stock" than this thing... Doc's stock!
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How can it still be considered stock after applying all these tweaks??
A stock and fast SGS with Froyo is like the Loch Ness monster. It's a myth.
Tnx!
About the GPX Fix, does it only support North American and european countries?
And can I do other items in SGS tools like 3d Gallery etc.
@all
I Think what he's trying to say is having a faster SGS without flashing it with other ROM's...just like me, I'm still not in the state of flashing it because I'm still afraid: Man this phone is too expensive and I don't want to mess with it yet. Maybe a year later
nYbEe said:
Tnx!
About the GPX Fix, does it only support North American and european countries?
And can I do other items in SGS tools like 3d Gallery etc.
@all
I Think what he's trying to say is having a faster SGS without flashing it with other ROM's...just like me, I'm still not in the state of flashing it because I'm still afraid: Man this phone is too expensive and I don't want to mess with it yet. Maybe a year later
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Yes. The gallery fix in the sgs tools also fixes the battery drain bug which is caused by the sensor in the stock froyo's gallery app.
And yes this is for poeple who are not wanting to flash custom roms yet wanting the same stable fast performance.
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SGS still laggy compared to other low-end phones?

Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
I've compared the Desire S with and without a custom ROM to my Galaxy S, and for some reason HTC Sense is just really fast and with custom ROM was about the same as my Galaxy S. So I guess it's just HTC Sense.
Install Cyanogenmod 7. Makes the SGS far faster than the wildfire s and makes the Samsung ROMs like JVO look prehistoric.
Insanity cm.....all is instant
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Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
rocky23 said:
yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
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I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
Quad-core 1Ghz, 3D Samoled+! O.O
Sorry, OT.
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CM7> AOSP > HTC Sense > Samsung TW > LG
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I have no idea what you are moaning about. No issues with the phone. Compared to my Xperia X10a and HTC HD2, this one is very nice indeed.
Ctcng said:
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
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exactly my thoughts.
I like samsung - i was also considering buying the second sgs, however decided to wait for a nice ice cream at the year end.
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
And something offtopic: the alarm bug hasnt even been officially fixed right?!!?
Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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i must say I totally agree with OP ! my sgs is also laggy. I am on f1 sgs2 rom. with galaxian kernel, with ext 4 lagfix and oc to 1.2 Ghz. but still it takes way to long, to open apps of any kind... and it just lags randomly all the time. have reinstalled several times according to instructions so dont tell me to do factory reset
I think the best gingerbread I have tried was jvh. app launch was the nearest to instant I have seen.
but I think the most lagfree experience must be froyo jp6 or jpy with speedmod kernel.
and to be honest since jp6 the browser has been a joke... :-(
its said that jvq browser is better, but only on odexed roms...
sadly I think that the support for the sgs is nearly over... and I have lost faith that samsung will free my sgs of lag :-(
oswade said:
Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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Still way slower than my old nexus one running gingerbread. It runs rings around cm7 even. Everything is instant and faultless.
Op is right.
If nexus one had samoled screen and better speakers I'd be like,
what's a galaxy s?
Having said that I prefer the gs1 to nexus s.
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oswade said:
Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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my bad, that is what i am using.
It was impressive at the beginning, however not anymore.
lag is back, the alarm bug is still on, and some recent random restarts started.
I know there are fixes etc - but its worth noting that the hardware will die unutilised at least when it comes to official roms from samsung.
The lag issue is a common theme with the SGS. Not sure how long you have owned your SGS but I believe the SGS still has better hardware but the lag develops over time.
So when I first got me SGS in June last year, it was great at the start. Then the lag came in and I tried OneClick Lagfix based on xda advice. That seemed to work for a bit but then slowed down again. In November, I flashed my first custom rom (Darky 8.5), the used the Speedmod Lag fix. Same thing, good at the start, then slows down. I kept trying a few others (Darky 9.2, 10.1, DebusRom, ExtraOrdinary, Chebon) and the longest I stayed on before noticing the lag was about 1 month.
One of the steps suggested before a flashing a rom is to undo lagfix and recommended to do a wipe as the freshest install. Doing this seems to refresh the speed as it was at the start (so constant flashing seems to make things quicker).
Something also to try if you don't want to try a new rom or firmware, is to undo and redo the lagfix. Almost like defragmenting but it seems to refresh the system (imho).
I have also heard some of the latest firmwares (JVQ) have better implementations of the filesystem and have heard some people not using lagifx at all. Given you have installed lagfix, you aren't that far from installing a new firmware/rom (just back up your files obviously). I haven't been on JVQ long enough to see if this truly fixes the issue though.
Just my thoughts.
Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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This shocking,i had the wildfire,and have to say that i experienced totally different things than you.It was laggy,slow.Then i rooted the phone,and changed the sense crap to a different rom,then there was no lag.phone worked smoothly.as for my SGS,the stock thing is laggy.It gets much better only changing the kernel to Galaxian.
I gotta try that Galaxian kernel. Changing to other phone constantly inhabits my mind, to something more reliable.
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nesx87 said:
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
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Manufacturer? It's not even that simple. A friend has a stock one and it works nicely (for stock). Another friend has another stock one and lags horribly, force closes, freezes, has trouble with dropped calls. The difference? They are on different operators so the crap that they bundle together is so different that it makes or breaks the phone.
Hrithan2020 said:
I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
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You were right. LP was lagging the phone as hell, mostly when going back to the homescreen and closing apps. I gave TouchWiz a run for a straight hour, playing games, opening and closing emails, browsing G+, Maps and several other apps, it never lagged when going back to the homescreen, which is what worries me most. I still need to try it on everyday use though.
Time to find another launcher. Any recommendations?

Back to stock HC + OC @1.4GHz and not so bad after all!

I bought my carrier-free Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G in early January, this year, upgraded to latest stock ROM just out-of-the box and after a few days of familiarization pretty frustrated at how slow and laggy it was I flashed KANG ICS and happily used it until a couple of days ago.
I always intended to flash Samsung ICS as soon as it came out because I do like and use most of Samsung apps, services and personalizations and I knew it was gonna be a looong wait BUT the other day I finally snapped and decided to give the stock Honeycomb another try... So I flashed the latest Samsung HC ROM (in the meantime a slightly updated one had come out, 3.2 KL4 instead of 3.2 KL1) and, most importantly, this time I flashed Pershoot's kernel (BTW, AGAIN THANK YOU!!) plus the latest SetCPU bought on the PlayStore, overclocked the Tab to 1400MHz and...... WOW, IT'S USABLE!!!!
Absolutely stable too (but I already knew it from my tests at both 1200 and 1400MHz on KANG ICS where OC isn't so much necessary anyway, and in fact decided to keep it at 1200 MHz).
Now, it still is nothing to write home about but I really like to have the cameras "back" and the overall much better (to me, YMMV) user experience of the Samsung stock ROM.
To be honest if this was all this tablet was ever going to be I would sell it tomorrow but for waiting this dang official ICS update I really think this combo is worth a try, I really was surprised!
xdapao3 said:
I bought my carrier-free Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G in early January, this year, upgraded to latest stock ROM just out-of-the box and after a few days of familiarization pretty frustrated at how slow and laggy it was I flashed KANG ICS and happily used it until a couple of days ago.
I always intended to flash Samsung ICS as soon as it came out because I do like and use most of Samsung apps, services and personalizations and I knew it was gonna be a looong wait BUT the other day I finally snapped and decided to give the stock Honeycomb another try... So I flashed the latest Samsung HC ROM (in the meantime a slightly updated one had come out, 3.2 KL4 instead of 3.2 KL1) and, most importantly, this time I flashed Pershoot's kernel (BTW, AGAIN THANK YOU!!) plus the latest SetCPU bought on the PlayStore, overclocked the Tab to 1400MHz and...... WOW, IT'S USABLE!!!!
Absolutely stable too (but I already knew it from my tests at both 1200 and 1400MHz on KANG ICS where OC isn't so much necessary anyway, and in fact decided to keep it at 1200 MHz).
Now, it still is nothing to write home about but I really like to have the cameras "back" and the overall much better (to me, YMMV) user experience of the Samsung stock ROM.
To be honest if this was all this tablet was ever going to be I would sell it tomorrow but for waiting this dang official ICS update I really think this combo is worth a try, I really was surprised!
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Hows the battery life after the OC?
custommx3 said:
Hows the battery life after the OC?
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Didn't notice big changes between 1000 and 1200 MHz and am not noticing big changes now between 1200 and 1400 MHz. Sorry that I can't give a more precise answer but the fact is that I have never really paid too much attention to battery life because it has simply never been an issue, practically always lasted me a whole day. In almost 5 months the times I have had to give it a quick charge mid-day have been very rare.
Of course use varies a lot from day to day, but even in some days that I have spent the whole day at home (sick, snow, whatever) and used it a lot through the day I made it to the end of the day (OK, in those occasions barely, but still..).
So, what do I use ma Tab for? 60% internet browsing, 20% Youtube, 10% book reading, 10% all the rest (mainly things I do with my Note when out and about or with the PC at home but am too lazy to get up ).
Wi-Fi is of course always on and so is the 3G module (I keep in the TAB a SIM card I use when abroad and need to be able to occasionally send and receive texts on it).
P.S. BTW, the governor has always been set to "Interactive"
On stock HC I was usually able to get 3 or 4 days of battery life. Community ICS ROMs have always left something to be desired in terms of battery life - I get about 2 days with light usage.
roland0fgilead said:
On stock HC I was usually able to get 3 or 4 days of battery life. Community ICS ROMs have always left something to be desired in terms of battery life - I get about 2 days with light usage.
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Personally I can't say I am seeing big differences between KANG ICS and the current stock one, I mean I am sure there are differences but they mustn't be that big or I would notice.
BTW, I absolutely hate having to recharge the Tab mid-day probably just when I do want to use it so I plug it every night (unless, of course, I have really used it for a very little time).
which kernel did you use exactly? The latest pershoot's kernel seems to be build for ICS.
Thx
jarjar26 said:
which kernel did you use exactly? The latest pershoot's kernel seems to be build for ICS.
Thx
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http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=2479
boot-cm_2636.4_p4_ux_hc32-oc-xtra-vfpv3-d16_fp-010912
This one is for: "10.1 3G, Touchwiz UX (HC 3.2 (stock) GT-P7500"
and there are others for the Wi-Fi version, LTE one etc.
Works a charm.
I use it for nearly half a year with HC and overclocked to 1,4 Ghz. Rocksolid. Runs for weeks without the need to reboot. Only if some appudate is ****ed up. Very happy. Great battery too. Got rid of all the junk which is preinstalled.
hi guys What is the recommened minimun cpu value? Thanks GV
Done, seems to be better than the stock rom ! thx !
xdapao3 said:
I bought my carrier-free Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G in early January, this year, upgraded to latest stock ROM just out-of-the box and after a few days of familiarization pretty frustrated at how slow and laggy it was I flashed KANG ICS and happily used it until a couple of days ago.
I always intended to flash Samsung ICS as soon as it came out because I do like and use most of Samsung apps, services and personalizations and I knew it was gonna be a looong wait BUT the other day I finally snapped and decided to give the stock Honeycomb another try... So I flashed the latest Samsung HC ROM (in the meantime a slightly updated one had come out, 3.2 KL4 instead of 3.2 KL1) and, most importantly, this time I flashed Pershoot's kernel (BTW, AGAIN THANK YOU!!) plus the latest SetCPU bought on the PlayStore, overclocked the Tab to 1400MHz and...... WOW, IT'S USABLE!!!!
Absolutely stable too (but I already knew it from my tests at both 1200 and 1400MHz on KANG ICS where OC isn't so much necessary anyway, and in fact decided to keep it at 1200 MHz).
Now, it still is nothing to write home about but I really like to have the cameras "back" and the overall much better (to me, YMMV) user experience of the Samsung stock ROM.
To be honest if this was all this tablet was ever going to be I would sell it tomorrow but for waiting this dang official ICS update I really think this combo is worth a try, I really was surprised!
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pershoot is ThE man, it's definetly his kernel what makes the ROM work correctly and not going bye bye after little use like stock kernel.
Other things are addition but in this case, pershoot's work has saved Samsung with this tab. They should pay him big, BIG money.
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hi guys What is the recommened minimun cpu value? Thanks GV
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AFAIK the general consensus is to leave it at the stock 216MHz. That's what I have done too.
Nash123 said:
I use it for nearly half a year with HC and overclocked to 1,4 Ghz. Rocksolid. Runs for weeks without the need to reboot. Only if some appudate is ****ed up. Very happy.
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After a week's use I can confirm it is more stable than stock indeed.
For example, on stock I used to have the browser close and reload (one of the very reasons I went to KANG ICS). Now, no more!
Great battery too.
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Yes, after some more use I can now say I am getting noticeably better runtimes than KANG ICS at 1200MHz.
Got rid of all the junk which is preinstalled.
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That "junk" is what I went back to the stock ROM for!!!!
The only things which I don't use (and got rid of) are the Social Hub and Pulse..
daniel_fm said:
pershoot is ThE man, it's definetly his kernel what makes the ROM work correctly and not going bye bye after little use like stock kernel.
Other things are addition but in this case, pershoot's work has saved Samsung with this tab. They should pay him big, BIG money.
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Absolutely. I don't know how but overclocking it seems to have made the Tab run more stably!!
I have a stock p7500 with 3.2 unrooted. Do I have to root it first, install cwm recovery and then pershoot's kernel?
Also, what's the procedure to go back to stock (unroot, stock recovery)?
narcotic81 said:
I have a stock p7500 with 3.2 unrooted. Do I have to root it first, install cwm recovery and then pershoot's kernel?
Also, what's the procedure to go back to stock (unroot, stock recovery)?
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Yes, to be able to OC the Tab you need root.
Root it, flash CWM recovery and then Pershoot's kernel.
(You can also flash Pershoot's kernel via Odin but once you're rooted why not do it right and get CWM too...)
Lastly, get SetCPU on the market, set the OC at 1200 MHz first (make sure "set on boot" is checked), test if it's stable then set it at 1400 MHz and be done with it (my advice is to leave the rest of the settings alone).
To go back to stock my advice is to flash the stock ROM via Odin (you can download them on samfirmware, for example) and do a full wipe/factory reset.
Thanks, I'll try it later today. What about stock recovery? Can I use the one which is included here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171089
?
narcotic81 said:
Thanks, I'll try it later today. What about stock recovery? Can I use the one which is included here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171089
?
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Yes, that's the thread I too used to root and get CWM.
Stock recovery? I don't think so and as I said once rooted there really is no reason at all to not get CWM also (being able to do nandroid backups by itself makes it worth it).
If you follow the instructions in the thread you linked, once you are rooted getting CWM is a piece of cake.
OK, I just tried it too and the tab now is noticeable faster and scrolling is smoother. I rooted it, flashed cwm recovery, installed setcpu and now it runs at 1.4ghz. The reason I want to know how to go back to stock recovery is if I have to send it to service or decide to sell it. Is the one in the link I posted compatible?
narcotic81 said:
OK, I just tried it too and the tab now is noticeable faster and scrolling is smoother. I rooted it, flashed cwm recovery, installed setcpu and now it runs at 1.4ghz. The reason I want to know how to go back to stock recovery is if I have to send it to service or decide to sell it. Is the one in the link I posted compatible?
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Not sure what you mean (what is compatible with what?) but I already answered you: To go back to stock my advice is to flash the stock ROM via Odin (you can download them on samfirmware, for example) and do a full wipe/factory reset.

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