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ok so right now I have an HD2 running a Froyo Sense ROM, OC to 1.113ghz with usually 250MB free benching better than a nexus one stock on 2.2.
I am loving this phone, it's basically an Evo on Tmobile, with updates coming out daily.
The thing is that someone is willing to trade me a Vibrant for it. Now market value alone says I should do the trade, but the thing is I don't see many custom ROMs here ( I know it's new but still) and I am all about Froyo + OC + lag fix + other cool stuff, and I just wanted some feedback on how people like their Vibrant?
I love the Super AMOLED and hummingbird, I think I'll do the trade based on those 2 factors alone, but how's the general fluidity, the UI, battery life? Just trying to get a good concept here.
Do you guys see much development coming soon? Sense ROMs, Froyo ROMs, etc...?
Do it!
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Let's be honest that hd 2 with android sucks for every day use. I say do it!
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The UI is user preference, like sense the widgets are nice. I just can't stand the look of Sense. That being said everything pretty much depends on what you like and how you use it.
I love my vibrant. The only problems I've had is with GPS in some situations but other than that there is no significant issue with the phone for me. Reception is better than other phones I've used on TMO.
^ Samsung is coming out with a GPS fix in September. Possibly even a Froyo update in one bundle.
Hd2 sux compared to the vibrant
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Been loving this! Been through all the AOSP Rom’s and this is superb on all levels.
check it out.
[http://www.theultimatedroid.com/forum/index.php?/forum/32-evo/
Have to check it tomorrow when I'm home, GPS working?
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I beg to differ. Ever hear of MIUI? Built completely from the ground up for performance, stability, and beauty. Also, not ripped off from Cyanogen.
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I beg to differ. Ever hear of MIUI? Built completely from the ground up for performance, stability, and beauty. Also, not ripped off from Cyanogen.
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also not banned from xda...
Tried both, like this better. Full 2.3.2 gingerbread.
And, Umm this is open source no?
Credits are clearly stated,btw.
Either way...best Rom I've used.
Sorry, GPS is rock solid, front camera, 8M back camera, gingerbread cut and paste,which I love...and need! Superb battery even with its kernel overclocked.
[QUOTE=xxwckdxx;11140166]Have to check it tomorrow when I'm home, GPS working?
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Every Ultimate Droid thread has been closed. Don't expect it to be open too long. I've tried all Evo releases of it and I like it but prefer CM. As for MIUI, I couldn't get the hang of it. It felt too much like an iphone to me.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I beg to differ. Ever hear of MIUI? Built completely from the ground up for performance, stability, and beauty. Also, not ripped off from Cyanogen.
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who cares if they ripped it off cm as long as they took the time to make it better (my opinion)... how did it rip off cm anyways?, arent most roms out there ripping off the original they just tweak some things to make it a better experience?
I'd be most impressed by someone if they just acted normal and didn't try to show their phone off to me lol
/grabs popcorn
this will be good
Never a fan of miui, I got android to get away from the child-like interface
*prepares for flames*
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I can't comprehend why people don't like Miui just because the stock launcher has an "iphone feel" to it...
Don't you guys realize that there are tons of apps to replace the stock launcher, most of which are superb....
If you don't like Miui's rom then we can only assume a couple things...
1. You never heard of ADW, Launcher Pro, GO launcher or any of the other launchers and in all reality if none of those launchers fit your style then you should probably go see a therapist...
2. Miui's rom is sooooo perfect that it makes you feel inferior so you decided to find the most remote issues with it...
Not bashing anyone, just tired of seeing people say that they don't like Miui just because of the launcher. That's ridiculous.
Ok this Ultimate Droid Rom is fast and it works, but all it is, is a custom version of CM7. Not impressed. I will be going back to CM7. Thanks OP for showing this to me though. I will try all AOSP Rom's once. As far as the MIUI thing goes, I've tried it and didn't like it. I do like it's speed, stability and the way it looks, but there are certain things about it I didn't like. I prefer CM7. If you like MIUI then good for you, but you cannot bash anyone for not liking something that you do. If everyone in the world was the same, we would all have 1 phone, 1 Rom and 1 everything. So choice is good and if someone doesn't like MIUI because of the stock launcher then let him have his opinion. If you like then good for you and you have your opinion. Thanks.
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Ok this Ultimate Droid Rom is fast and it works, but all it is, is a custom version of CM7. Not impressed. I will be going back to CM7. Thanks OP for showing this to me though. I will try all AOSP Rom's once. As far as the MIUI thing goes, I've tried it and didn't like it. I do like it's speed, stability and the way it looks, but there are certain things about it I didn't like. I prefer CM7. If you like MIUI then good for you, but you cannot bash anyone for not liking something that you do. If everyone in the world was the same, we would all have 1 phone, 1 Rom and 1 everything. So choice is good and if someone doesn't like MIUI because of the stock launcher then let him have his opinion. If you like then good for you and you have your opinion. Thanks.
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and the best part is, CM7 now has GGGG, so i'm sticking to that, lets see any other GB rom pull off that, then we'll talk.
here we go guys.... I am strictly a cm user. I just want to point out that cyanogenmod is built from source. It looks exactly like vanilla android. Cyanogen and team put a lot of work into coding and making the aosp rom experience better for us. UD looks like cyanogenmod because is also built from source. He does give credit where credit is due, from what I can see, but at the same time, he also puts in his fair share of tweaks. I also believe he builds from source as well. I don't know what happened with that developer in the past, but right now he seems to be up front about giving credit. Don't bash his rom or hard work as a developer. He may not be part of the XDA community anymore, but he is a developer nonetheless, that can probably do a lot more with android than 90% of us here. If you don't like, want to try, or want to use his rom, that is perfect. No one is forcing any of us to do so. However, don't say he rips off of cyanogen when he gives credit to cyanogen and team. Not every AOSP rom is going to look different. The only "different" AOSP rom I know of is the MIUI. They have clearly done something commendable.
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here we go guys.... I am strictly a cm user. I just want to point out that cyanogenmod is built from source. It looks exactly like vanilla android. Cyanogen and team put a lot of work into coding and making the aosp rom experience better for us. UD looks like cyanogenmod because is also built from source. He does give credit where credit is due, from what I can see, but at the same time, he also puts in his fair share of tweaks. I also believe he builds from source as well. I don't know what happened with that developer in the past, but right now he seems to be up front about giving credit. Don't bash his rom or hard work as a developer. He may not be part of the XDA community anymore, but he is a developer nonetheless, that can probably do a lot more with android than 90% of us here. If you don't like, want to try, or want to use his rom, that is perfect. No one is forcing any of us to do so. However, don't say he rips off of cyanogen when he gives credit to cyanogen and team. Not every AOSP rom is going to look different. The only "different" AOSP rom I know of is the MIUI. They have clearly done something commendable.
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Wrong. Based off of cm code... not aosp.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/android-soap-opera-ultimate-droid
read this.
He refused to give credit for a long time.
I love UD. The extra tweaks are awesome and it will most likely have 4G when the devs release it for other AOSP roms. This thread shouldn't get closed as long as it stays on topic.
If you hate/instigate gtfo. I hate seeing trolls like cheesynutz and metalhead come in and instigate an argument.
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It has like 3 options cm doesn't have so not worth it IMO since cm has more support and 4g working on it. Also, originals ftw.
aimbdd said:
Wrong. Based off of cm code... not aosp.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/android-soap-opera-ultimate-droid
read this.
He refused to give credit for a long time.
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that was last year... in his new releases he does give credit... he could've been an @$$ and continued to not give credit. Question is, doesn't he deserve a second chance???
check out his thread... i see credit being given.... however, I am not one to say if he has given credit to everyone for everything he's used. IDK, but I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt since I see credit to cyanogen and others there.
http://www.theultimatedroid.com/forum/index.php?/topic/822-the-ultimate-droid-300-beta/
not trying to start a war guys. I'll shut up now. Just my $.02
Miui sucks monkey butt; and I will not run anyone's rom who copies and paste and doesn't give credit when it'd due. Keep your ultimate paste and have fun running it. ;-) my opinion.
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Well after almost a week with the new Sprint Nexus-S 4G, I plan to return it and get my EVO going again. My EVO was rooted with the best Sense based ROM, "Myn's RS 5" I still think the EVO 4G is one of the better smartphones on the market ( if rooted, and good ROM installed ) even a year after it's release, and the EVO-3D should be even better yet.
I wanted the Nexus for the lightweight form factor, and easy fit in pocket...beautiful screen...and better battery life.
Well a week later I can NOT stand "vanilla" Android, didn't realize how much I took "Sense UI" for granted, basic Android feels so, uh basic, and years outdated. I mean come on the default Voice mail is to call a phone # to access messages, lol that's from the 90's man. The dialer and contacts also seem super basic and like iPhone1 or Android 1.5, and the default e-mail for non gmail is horrible, the standard e-mail widget on the EVO is perfect, and ten million times better.
So many things on "vanilla" Android just seems to be done so poorly and outdated, makes me wonder what people like about ? I know it is meant to be tweaked and played with, and add all your own custom apps and widgets, but that is stupid to me, that is just saying stock Android sucks.
Plus the battery life on my Nexus-S is not stellar like expected, sure it is better than my EVO, but barely, and the screen is actually harder to see outside in the sunlight.
Will go back to my EVO 4G, and upgrade to the EVO-2 ( 3d ), can only imagine a Myn's based ROM on that beast, with Android 2.3...dual cores...1gb memory...4gb storage...higher res screen...
Only thing I don't like on the EVO is it's thick and bulky size, it is borderline just too heavy, and big, not the 4.3" screen, I mean look at the new Galaxy S-2, that is 4.3 but super thin and lightweight, wish HTC could slim it down a bit.
Opinions ?
To each their own, I guess. I haven't tried the Nexus and don't plan to get one. I'm holding out hope we'll get we'll get the Galaxy S 2. I prefer AOSP over Sense. Sense feels gaudy to me and forces an aesthetic I don't care for. I like a lean, minimalistic approach that I can customize and make my own.
Either way. Welcome back.
You know you can put different ROMs on the Nexus S right?
I won't go with the Nexus S because it doesn't have a notification led [RETARDED] and because it's a minor bump from the Evo [not worth the loss of an upgrade] but it seems like most of your issue is the ROM itself.
Unfortunately, I read on the EVO 3D forum that if Myn can't get his hands on an EVO 3D for the upgrade price, he probably won't be devving for it. He technically doesn't qualify for an upgrade yet I believe.
So...hey, donate some money so he can buy one I guess or figure out a way to get him one for the upgrade price.
halorin said:
To each their own, I guess. I haven't tried the Nexus and don't plan to get one. I'm holding out hope we'll get we'll get the Galaxy S 2. I prefer AOSP over Sense. Sense feels gaudy to me and forces an aesthetic I don't care for. I like a lean, minimalistic approach that I can customize and make my own.
Either way. Welcome back.
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That's what Myn's ROM "Warmtwopointtwo" is for, it is still "Sense" based, but gets rid of all the crapware and bloatware, and streamlines everything in the background, just keeping the core "Sense" stuff. It is a very clean and stripped down look, and then can still be themed and customized to your hearts content.
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Unfortunately, I read on the EVO 3D forum that if Myn can't get his hands on an EVO 3D for the upgrade price, he probably won't be devving for it. He technically doesn't qualify for an upgrade yet I believe.
So...hey, donate some money so he can buy one I guess or figure out a way to get him one for the upgrade price.
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hmm...I am surprised on this forum, there isn't a Sprint rep that can cut Myn a deal, get him one for the upgrade price and not pay full retail ? I thought after one year you can upgrade to a new phone by renewing on a new 2yr contract and get the phone for the $199 price ? And usually most people have a $150 gift certificate by staying with Sprint after like 10 months, I know I got one.
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That's what Myn's ROM "Warmtwopointtwo" is for, it is still "Sense" based, but gets rid of all the crapware and bloatware, and streamlines everything in the background, just keeping the core "Sense" stuff. It is a very clean and stripped down look, and then can still be themed and customized to your hearts content.
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I've tried it before. It by far is my favorite Sense rom, but I still prefer AOSP roms.
halorin said:
I've tried it before. It by far is my favorite Sense rom, but I still prefer AOSP roms.
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So whats the best AOSP ROM ? CM 7 ?
Wish Cyanogen 7 was ready for the Nexus-S 4G, but they say have to wait for CM 7.1 that has official support for 2.3.4 that is on the Sprint Nexus-S.
I also got the nexus s two days ago and to be honest I love it. It a lot slimmer and lighter than the evo and it actually does not feel like its bulky in the pocket. The screen it very nice, but at times it seems a little oversaturated. Even thou it's got a 5mp camera it takes great pics and the video recording it's pretty good as well, granted it's not recording at 720p. Overall I am really enjoying a smaller phone ( didn't realize the evo was so massive compared to other phones) and hope that sprint gets a dual core 4 inch phone. I was saving my upgrade for the evo 3d but after having the nexus s I might just keep this and skip the evo 3d. Hopefully there will be a nexus 3 by the end of the year?? who knows.
in caparison to the evo;
...stock vanilla is just fine for me, straight to the point. Battery has lasting longer than the evo, nexus s does not have notification led but there is an app called "noled" which has been working just fine, love the phone design.
To be honest the evo is capable of doing everything i ever needed from a phone, and so does the nexus s ( but better for gaming) but with new and bigger tech coming out every 6months you always feel like you "need" the latest. So far the thing I'm really enjoying about the nexus is the size, it feels like the perfect size.
Zorachus said:
So whats the best AOSP ROM ? CM 7 ?
Wish Cyanogen 7 was ready for the Nexus-S 4G, but they say have to wait for CM 7.1 that has official support for 2.3.4 that is on the Sprint Nexus-S.
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I've been using Deck's AOSP rom. There's a link to it in the Android Development forums. I use 1.0 because GB 2.3.4 roms have a MMS issue. I use Savages Zen BFS 2.1.0. You may like it.
CM7 has been unusually shaky, consider their track record. I have hope 7.1 will being more stable than the past releases.
Zorachus said:
hmm...I am surprised on this forum, there isn't a Sprint rep that can cut Myn a deal, get him one for the upgrade price and not pay full retail ? I thought after one year you can upgrade to a new phone by renewing on a new 2yr contract and get the phone for the $199 price ? And usually most people have a $150 gift certificate by staying with Sprint after like 10 months, I know I got one.
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UT OH! Someone hasn't been paying much attention for the last three months...
I was almost going to get Nexus. Glad I didn't. EVO 3d will be beast.
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I feel the opposite I'm keeping the nexus
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here's wishing there was a 'you must be borderline MR' button...
you do realize you can put almost whatever UI you want on almost any android phone, right?
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CM7 has been unusually shaky, consider their track record. I have hope 7.1 will being more stable than the past releases.
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I agree. CM is the only thing that makes AOSP any good. Without it, it does kinda suck. Unfortunately, CM hasn't been very good for me since CM6, forcing me to go back to Sense.
timothydonohue said:
here's wishing there was a 'you must be borderline MR' button...
you do realize you can put almost whatever UI you want on almost any android phone, right?
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Try putting a Sense based ROM or UI on my Nexus-S, there is only one that I know of, and it is in beta, with a lot of features still not working. Don't know of any other "Sense UI" for the Nexus-S ?
Nice thing with Sense based phones, is they get the Sense ROM's of course, but also can easily install the AOSP ROM's too.
Watch this good hands on video of the new EVO 3D, mainly showing off Sense 3.0, which I what I wanted to see more of, I could give two ****s about the 3D on the phone. Actually I wish Sprint sold two versions, the "Sensation" non 3D version is slightly thinner, but exact same hardware.
But Sense 3.0 looks very ncie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdKBaC9sao&feature=related
Lol that video is like us trying to get Virus's rom to work right
Eh, it's only boring if you have no imagination and/or no ability to make things how you want them.
Vanilla android does one thing nicely, that's let you do anything you want. ADW and themes is a great example of that. I'm on AOSP right now and here's my homescreen, you may not like it, but if you don't think you could have made it how you wanted then you just didn't want to try. This is why we like Android over iOS, because we have freedom of expression, not conformity to look like everyone else's.
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Eh, it's only boring if you have no imagination and/or no ability to make things how you want them.
Vanilla android does one thing nicely, that's let you do anything you want. ADW and themes is a great example of that. I'm on AOSP right now and here's my homescreen, you may not like it, but if you don't think you could have made it how you wanted then you just didn't want to try. This is why we like Android over iOS, because we have freedom of expression, not conformity to look like everyone else's.
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So when I click your image on my evo is that the difference in screen size to scale? Or has the size of the image been reduced a bit?
*RANT ALERT*
Ok. This makes me furious.
Cyanogenmod Hauwei Ascend
It's a 600 mhz processor. By a no-named manufacturer. WHAT THE H#*&??
Cyanogenmod can run on this android 2.1-flaunting pos and we can't have it? My bestfriends super crappy phone makes my phone look like crap because of the os. The Epic's got the hardware, but no software to match. Don't get me wrong, the devs here have worked MIRACLES on this phone. And the only thing holding me back from pawning whatever I can find for an evo is the amazing roms (frankenstein and anonymous, im looking at you) and the superbly friendly and miracle-working devs (Rodderik, ecooce, computerkid23, MysteryEmotionz, k0nane, chris41g, asdfghjkl, DRockstar, TexasEpic4G, qbking77, flimsy888, forgive me if I left you out).
Guess I'm just jealous that such a beast of a phone can't compare to such a pos of a phone.
*RANT OVER*
It shipped with AOSP android so it wasn't too much of a stretch to port Cyanogenmod onto it. One of the hardest parts of porting CM is getting an AOSP kernel that boots (part of what took the EPIC so long to reach where it is now).
I have CM7 on my Nook Color. It is nice but it's not a game changer, and stuff broke in some nightlies. Having working Netflix would be great but Epic screen is too small vs a tablet. ACS does it for me just fine, and whenever CM7, GB, AOSP makes its way to us it will make an already great phone better - but only that much.
Seriously? Even in stock form, the Epic still kicks ass. Tell me if CM can play ALL the codecs the Epic does? How about the performance of the camera? The Samsung camera is really pretty good. Can that phone play games made for the Tegra 2? I know the Epic can. CM would be great, but it's not the end all, be all. From a performance standpoint, CM is fast, but even it's missing some things that the Epic already has built in.
Oh trust me, I know. It's amazing even stock. But its like a car, you want the better parts for the best performance. And that amazing brand new engine won't fit in our car (idk alot about cars). It's also one of those "we do it because we can" things. It's a slap in the face to see it on these type of phones and not our epic.
At this point CM is very over-hyped. Would it be nice to have? Yes. Is it going to make the phone suck if we don't get it? No. The way people are making it out to be is like this will completely transform the phone.
I suspect when the Epic finally does get CM we will finally be done with the "where is CM?!" threads and flooded with the "this is it?!" threads.
It's not just Cyanogenmod. Its also MIUI and plain old AOSP. The epic is pretty amazing, but being able to say I can't run CM7 or MIUI makes me think twice about it actually being an evo-killer.
Personally, I will continue to run touchwiz roms even after cyanogen. Unless cm can make a serious enough difference in my battery stats to warrant removing tw and its features(which I find very useful).
cd's or tapes?
schnowdapowda said:
Personally, I will continue to run touchwiz roms even after cyanogen. Unless cm can make a serious enough difference in my battery stats to warrant removing tw and its features(which I find very useful).
cd's or tapes?
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Khemul said:
At this point CM is very over-hyped. Would it be nice to have? Yes. Is it going to make the phone suck if we don't get it? No. The way people are making it out to be is like this will completely transform the phone.
I suspect when the Epic finally does get CM we will finally be done with the "where is CM?!" threads and flooded with the "this is it?!" threads.
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Maybe CM7 isn't so different from what we use now but I just put MIUI on my sister's vibrant and believe me it's a BIG deal.
In a perfect world, I would have the newest official MIUI on my Epic with Wimax support both on my phone and actually available in my area. I hope some day to get to see a couple of those.
Official Gingerbread Kernel source needs to drop now.
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE RAN CM7, because let me tell you I miss it greatly from my Evo, LOVE LOVE LOVE my Epic but seriously CM7 is where its at...Yes I like caps.
I'm intrigued by what I hear about CM7, but MIUI does not get my attention one bit. If I wanted my phone to look and act like an iPhone I probably would have bought an iPhone (and then promptly turned my man card in and spent the rest of my days settling for whatever the turtleneck told me was the best).
That being said, I don't care that these aren't available for the Epic. SRF is super fast and I haven't found any bugs to date. I get less FC's on my phone now than I did with the stock phone.
where to begin? cm is nice and having the option is nicer. but seriously its not some awe inspiring monolith of human achievement. the reason why cm7 looks so great on htc devices is because they need the speedup over sense.
as for miui, i too have taken great pleasure in bashing it, but recently i gave it a whirl and i have to say i am VERY impressed. the features present in that rom i hope someday make it into cm7. the customization you can do with such ease is amazing. the music app even blows away googles newest one.. (i mean cmon who doesnt like auto lyric lookups? ) contact management is a breeze and even syncs properly with facebook (something i cant get cm7 to do). alas the current version of miui lacks 4g and has a call bug where the call is muted (version 1.7.8) for the nexus s 4g. so im back to cm7 for now, til dreamsforgotten ports those lockscreen mods
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where to begin? cm is nice and having the option is nicer. but seriously its not some awe inspiring monolith of human achievement.
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Yes, it is.
lol CM7 cant change the phone THAT much.
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Yes, it is.
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please, and what would you know about cm?
I'm not pressed for cm7, just a source code for 2.3.5 and we'd be rocking it
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Yes, it is.
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please, and what would you know about cm?
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Yeah I know right, that guys a n00b.
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I think there's more to life than software and operating systems. I'm very satisfied with what the devs have come up with for the Epic. The phone is fast, user-friendly, and easy on the battery. My buddy, who has an Evo, wishes he had my camera and super AMOLED. We're both stormchasers and are too cheap to buy real cameras. Mine takes noticeably better pictures on all settings. I guess it depends on what is important to you.
these types of posts make me furious.
These devs aren't going to waste their time building from scratch what they'll be able to piece together with a source release.
CyanogenMod is great and all, but try some other roms before you get all crazy angry. Do some research!
I am running my epic with SyndicateRomFrozen and the Genocide Kernel. I'm getting quadrant scores through the roof, and my Epic is a dream phone now.
CM7 will get to us. Until then, do something. Research. Flash. Experiment. Stop flaming start being proactive.
My display, camera, and audio quality trump anything that CM7 or MIUI brings that would make me want to switch to another Sprint phone right now.
Like many others, I jumped on the train to try out all these ICS roms. I have the Nexus S 4G, so I am more limited, but still.
So far, they are really impressive, all being built from source. Lots of people are saying they are super smooth and responsive.
So I tired out AOSP's build, Kwiboo's, Drew Garens, and some of the Kangs. I used Franco's kernel, Matrix, and Glados to see what all worked best.
Results? Nothing compares to CM7 Gingerbread. When people say the ICS roms are quick, they aren't compared to CM7. Clicking on apps open instantly in CM7, settings menu is snappy, and moving between screens has extremely little lag. The ICS roms all had issues of randomly slowing down, but thats almost no existent in CM7. The worst part was the battery life. I don't know if I wasn't doing things correctly, but with minimal use I was draining 8-9% per hour. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27361088/batterylife.png
So I went back to CM7 to see if it was just my phone, or my kernel. I put on Matrix 11.5, and got all set up. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27361088/batterylife2.png
In this picture I was at 76% battery life as well. As you can see, thats MUCH better life.
My question is, has anyone else experienced what I have? I COMPLETELY understand that the ROM's are not perfect, I am not worried about that. I just hear all these AMAZING things about these ICS roms, but I personally don't see it. Just looking for some discussion here, and some other peoples comparisons between Gingerbread and ICS. Thanks to all the devs out there, you guys are great!
Its a difference between a rom built from source without components from a actually device ota. The performance of ICS roms will take big turn for the better when devs have an official nexus s ota to work with.
If you want the quickest gingerbread experience try Pete's GPA19 bugless beast out.
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Perhaps most of us when saying it's quick and responsive, are not trying to make a battle over gingerbread roms......
Perhaps when the term alpha is used and the ROM runs really well it gets us excited for what's down the pipe line.
When I tell people the ics runs smooth on my nexus I'm commenting on how well it runs from the little amount of time that has been spent so far with out pre supplied drivers and kernel. And is described from the Dev as being buggy
Not everything is commented on being nice is not to be precieved as something else is bad.
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Of all the ICS roms I've tried, I give the best performance to aosp. Having said that, they're all still not as fast as GB (Oxygen, my preferred). Played with ICS for a few days, did a nandroid backup and went back to Oxygen.
I understand that the devs are working with what they've got but I'm not satisfied with the current iterations as a daily driver. Battery life is not the best, slow transistions sometimes...performance generally is not what I like. It was fun to play with though.
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It is obvious that GB is still faster, it is based on the OTA and it is here for like one year, devs had time to make it mature. ICS is on the beginning, and imo is running very well at this moment. I have installed CM9 alpha 11 with franco´s kernel and it is quite fast and with the same battery life than I was having with GB.
My ICS is running as fast as I need it for the most part.
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Please don't be stupid.
The Gingerbread ROM you are talking about are 1 year old and have been optimized by many ways!
ICS is just a few weeks old and as only be officially ported to one device (Galaxy Nexus)
Do you remember one year ago, the crappy gingerbread ROM we had?
profete162 said:
Please don't be stupid.
The Gingerbread ROM you are talking about are 1 year old and have been optimized by many ways!
ICS is just a few weeks old and as only be officially ported to one device (Galaxy Nexus)
Do you remember one year ago, the crappy gingerbread ROM we had?
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I understand it has been optimized, I am not saying it hasn't.
My point is that people are saying the ICS ROMS are "super fast" "no issues!." I would just like to find out how relative Gingerbread is to ICS. When I say that ICS is fast, I would compare it to Gingerbread fast, which is not the same at all.
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Its a difference between a rom built from source without components from a actually device ota. The performance of ICS roms will take big turn for the better when devs have an official nexus s ota to work with.
If you want the quickest gingerbread experience try Pete's GPA19 bugless beast out.
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Alright, I guess I don't understand the actual component side of it. I thought that source was decently close to what a final build would be like (besides drivers and stability of course).
Thanks for the suggestion.
When we get the OTA for the nexus s 3g & 4g and Devs get the actual kernel and drivers etc designed for our device we will see a major difference.
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I understand it has been optimized, I am not saying it hasn't.
My point is that people are saying the ICS ROMS are "super fast" "no issues!." I would just like to find out how relative Gingerbread is to ICS. When I say that ICS is fast, I would compare it to Gingerbread fast, which is not the same at all.
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then dont use other people may like the progress so far and comment on it threads related to the ROM. Not creating a thread to say other people are wrong comes off ignorant. Do you have a lot of participation trophies at home?
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BrianDigital said:
then dont use other people may like the progress so far and comment on it threads related to the ROM. Not creating a thread to say other people are wrong comes off ignorant. Do you have a lot of participation trophies at home?
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I never said anyone was wrong. Don't be so quick to be a douch.
I agree that there has been a lot of progress, but my point is - there is no relativity when people talk. They say its fast! What does that even mean? I'm not being ignorant, I am just wondering what other people say fast is.
For me it was the big turn it took from the SDK port. I tried that and it was slow and laggish and some components didn't work at all.
Then came along the first ICS version built from AOSP and that was already a massive performance increase compared to what we had.
After a few weeks, I call the latest releases 'fast', looking at the iterations it has made. ICS is running smooth-ish here now; no lags while flicking screen, minor lag when open some dialogs.
Lastly I think it helps the devs out a lot if they get feedback on whichever optimization script they put on their release to make it go a bit faster.
Greetz
I own my Nexus since four days now and I think that ICS ins a little bit faster than 3.3.6 Gingerbread. But I used only the Stock and prefer ICS now.
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thefangedkanga said:
I never said anyone was wrong. Don't be so quick to be a douch.
I agree that there has been a lot of progress, but my point is - there is no relativity when people talk. They say its fast! What does that even mean? I'm not being ignorant, I am just wondering what other people say fast is.
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oh so your just saying people that like the ICS roms and think they are fast are dead wrong. When I ran I tried it was fast and good battery life, I went back to gb cause of 4g and app compatablity. But your not being ignorant im sorry your telling me my opinion is wrong. Thank you for informing me what "my" opinions are
You must be new to this scene and hopefully you can learn from this. Not every comment on something that is positive is not meant to bash another thing. I can not even understand why if your not telling people they are wrong for forming their own opinion different from yours, that a thread needed to be created. Which even the topic title is flame bait
BrianDigital said:
oh so your just saying people that like the ICS roms and think they are fast are dead wrong. When I ran I tried it was fast and good battery life, I went back to gb cause of 4g and app compatablity. But your not being ignorant im sorry your telling me my opinion is wrong. Thank you for informing me what "my" opinions are
You must be new to this scene and hopefully you can learn from this. Not every comment on something that is positive is not meant to bash another thing. I can not even understand why if your not telling people they are wrong for forming their own opinion different from yours, that a thread needed to be created. Which even the topic title is flame bait
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Dude chill out.
I never said anyone is wrong. All I said is that the term fast is relative. I'm not here to bash anyone, or anything. I am just wondering what other peoples experiences are. Stop flaming because you have a different opinion. That's the whole point of this, to get other peoples OPINIONS. Relax.
Who's still disappointed by the keyboard? The response time is near perfect now. I just wish Google would implement some more settings and features, like custom auto corrections.
I used the stock keyboard for an entire day and it almost killed me, I hate it. Swiftkey X is miles ahead, I cant type in my phone without it.
You know what also bothers me? The fact that the letter "i" is not automatically capitalized in the middle of the sentence. For example, "Have i shown you my picture?" Why is the "i" not capped, Google?
Argh.
Yes, these ICS builds are no where close to the smoothness, snappiness, and fluidity of Gingerbread ROMs. I was hoping that when the official Ice Cream Sandwich OTA for the Nexus S was released this problem would be remedied. These AOSP builds have not been properly optimized and such to run perfectly on our devices, but for Alphas they are decent. Sadly not my cup of decent. They are annoyingly less quick than Gingerbread builds currently are.